I hate computers. Especially the talking ones.

How do I download an rtx 5090

>>109042619
Go to newegg.com, type 5090, click add to cart, click on cart, click place order

>>109042578
pic related is why radeon got abandoned
9800x3d earns more for amd in profit per mm2 than nvidia does from selling a 5090

>>109043019
But it's not abandoned.
If they truly dump Radeon people will unironically start boycotting AMD
Nvdia can dump geforce though lol

I'm low key hoping the raptor lake refresh refresh will be good, I'd maybe buy one low end i5 chip for my home server

>>109043019
You earned crazy money per pixel on that one.

>>109043043
>If they truly dump Radeon people will unironically start boycotting AMD
Oh no anyway! *fans herself with dollar bills from Epyc sales*

>>109043065
Just upgrade GPU every new gen lmao

>>109043056
they aren't releasing consumer bartlettlake 12P
its truly over for lga1700

Just wanted to report in for any anons who purchase a 50 series card. In my case a 5070.
Things you MUST do:
>Clean install of drivers
>Most recent BIOS update
>Disable G-Sync using Nvidia Control Panel (not Nvidia app) [available only on microshart store]
>When installing the card ensure 100% level and firm click into slot. If it sags even a few degrees you need a post, luckily the screws to the case leveled mine out
>Seat the power cable like you life depends on it. Really ram that fucking cable in as hard as you can.
>Protip seat the power cables before clicking into pcie slot.

Just dealt with 5 hours of headache and the culprit was an old BIOS firmware and a slightly loose power cable fed from under the card. The cable MUST come from above the card. Do NOT install from underneath.

Final protip, just buy an AMD card. 10/10 my worst Nvidia experience.

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4060ti 16gb chads? how are you?

>>109042827
i did this, but it didn't work. seems like it's locked behind some type of paywall. anyway around this?

>>109043291
Try not being black.

>>109043329
jokes on you, meat bag. i'm not even human.

>>109043375
>Anon post pretending to be a chat bot
Well thats enough 4chan for me today

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If I want to buy a 4k monitor that can play games at 100fps minimum, what hardware specs do I need to run this?

>>109043679
Nvidia gpu

>>109043679
rtx4090 or rtx5090

>>109043679
Native: 6090
Upscaled:5080/4090/5090

>>109043679
>at 100fps minimum
Natively at high settings and without a fake frame garbage? A 5090.

Should i upgrade my 5070ti to a 5080 super?

I WANT AN AORUS INFINITY
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>109043778
How well does it cool? I wonder if it has per pin monitoring

>>109042578
AM4 still going stronk

Currently tossing up between getting a 9070XT or a 5080. Upgrading from a 1080Ti so both are substantially better than my current GPU which will be nice.

>>109043774
Do your other passtimes include setting piles of cash on fire?

>>109044035
Wait for the 5080 super or get a 9070xt.
If you're going to be a 16gb vram cuck then atleast don't get ripped off by nvidia.

If you're making fue with a 1080ti for this long then you don't need a 5090 or even a 5080. The best bet for the future would either be getting a 5070ti or getting a really nice 9070xt and sitting in your hands waiting for the 70 series cards to drop.

The 50 series is basically a stop gap and the cards coming out in the future (although distant future) will be way different. Nobody on the 50 series or 40 series is expecting them to be anywhere relevant in the next three years.

Owning a blackwell card in 2028 will be like owning a pascal card in 2024.

>>109043774
>Inter-generation upgrade
Just get a 5090 at that point

FUCK THIS RAMAGEDDON FUCK FUCK FUCK

MY LOCAL MICROCENTER IS SELLING 5070 TI PREBUILTS FOR $2200 WITH A 9800X3D AND 32 GIGS OF DDR5 BUT THE REVIEWS FOR POWERSPEC ARE JUST SO ABYSMALLY SHIT

AND IF I TRY TO BUILD ONE ON MY OWN I'M GETTING FUCKED OVER MY SSD PRICES FUCKKK

Is it possible for thermal paste to fail some months later? I'm pretty sure my CPU is getting hotter only after a few months. I've been playing the same games too.

>>109044498
>I'm pretty sure my CPU is getting hotter only after a few months.
You built in winter and it's summer now.
Perfectly normal if it is just a few degrees.

>>109044498
I dunno about you but the PC is like a dust magnet after a few months.

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>>109044972
Just how static works.

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Should I buy the Gigabyte M27UP for $300 if I want to finally get into daily driving a 4K monitor?

>open steam
>CPU utilization ~10-15%
>temps jump up to over 70c
>pre rendering shaders
>CPU utilization 100%
>temps stay around 60c

Is this normal for cheap air coolers?

>>109045179
Someone bought this for 320 euro and said that compared his old Asus MG279Q (1440p 144Hz IPS) and not mentioned here in HUB's video is very strong brightness directionality. Even looking at the monitor straight on at normal viewing distance the sides are clearly dimmer. Moving your head left and right makes it obvious as the brightest area moves with your head. You can even see it in the video.

This is something that fucks me up in trying to pick out an LCD monitor right now, the brightness directionality. There are other 4K monitors right now that you can choose in this price range too but I'll have no idea what they look like compared to it. That's why it annoys me how everything is sold through online retailers only now and never show in person.

>>109045233
its normal for ryzen if you have boost enabled.

>>109042578
Is looking for parts on fb marketplace or similar a good idea for building second hand LLM homebrew machines? I saw a youtube video about it, seemed like fun.

>>109045233
I would consider 70°C to be low temps for CPUs. Consider changing the CPU fan curve because constantly changing fan RPM can be annoying when your CPU spikes from simply refreshing a webpage.

>>109045324
Thanks.
>>109045345
yeah for normal desktop use I enable power saving mode so I don't get these spikes.

>>109045340
Second hand 3090 used to be one of the best price/performance options for local LLM. Not 100% if it still holds up but I think so. You are obviously missing out some stuff like fp8 nvfp4 acceleration, but it is still a good deal for vram + bandwidth + compute + cuda capability
I dunno shit about facebook marketplace in particular but buying second hand is OK if you are using some intermediary place that allows refund policy and/or from a seller that lets you test shit.

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MAG or MPG?

QHD or 4K?

Ultrawide?

>>109045629
>MAG or MPG?
MAG is MSIs mainstream tier and MPG is premium. MEG is flagship but you shouldn't bother about this unless branding is important
>QHD or 4K?
depends on the screen size and viewing distance. I like 27" 2k which is fine unless you're very close to the screen and for 32" or bigger I'd get 4k
>Ultrawide?
can be nice for productivity but can suck in gaming but this depends on the game

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Is this a decent deal? I don't need any NVMEs, as I already have six. I would just need to unmount my RAID array in my expansion card and move the shit elsewhere. Right now I have a 5600x and 7900xt. Looking at either sticking my old 3070 in it and moving the 7900xt into this, or getting a 9070xt and just buy another case and power supply. It's not like my PC is slow or anything. I've been planning on waiting until AM6, but apparently that's a ways off.

>>109045895
Anons were complaining about that motherboard because of how PCI-E slot is positioned.

>>109044035
9070XT is a horrible idea.
Wait for AMD's next gen or get a 50 Series.
Having a card with no upscaling or PT support is a dead end and AMD knows it, their next generation will almost certainly have support for it whereas the 9070XT never will and in 2-3 years you'll feel like you got burned.

50-Series probably isn't going to age well, much as 20-series's RTX performance looks bad these days. But, at least it can support it and will do going forwards.

>>109045895
400$ off is insane

>>109045987
prices are obscenely inflated

>>109045895
its the average microcenter deal to get you into the door

Is there a recommended pcie riser cable?

>>109044035
Nobody will ever recommend a 5080, paying 1400 for 16gb vram is suspicious as best
I would pick the 9070xt its computing power is similar to a 5070TI and is still somewhat close to MSRP.
You can then put the ALMOST EIGHT HUNDRED DOLLARS BETWEEN THESE 2 CARDS YOU LISTED towards other upgrades.
If you rather stick to nvidia pick a 5070TI instead of the 5080, or a 5070 which is very cheap right now and wait for the 60 series/50 supers with the money you saved

>>109045957
>late 2027

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this is truly a generational crash out for the record books. why can't he just stick to reviewing hardware?

>>109046031
some cases have vertical mounting kits that include one but I dont think it matters that much unless you pick the cheapest shit.

>>109045179
I don't recommend 4k unless you're buying an oversized monitor and gaming isn't your primary goal.
and a 27" 4k is a "gaming" monitor.

>>109046053
there is no hardware to review. youtube demands content continue to be made regardless.

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>>109046053
the only interesting hardware out there is cases rn and even most of them are an "acquired taste"

Fan question(s)
"Wireless Fans" are just daisychained fans but on a block, right? the wireless part referring to the fact that there are no wires between them and they only boast 1 cable; right?
So im gonna pick a fan hub thingie and hide it by the psu, on the space that most cases reserve for SSD and HDD and route the cables from behind the mobo to that space, effectively hiding them right? Because there wont be random fan cables floating to every fan header in the mobo all over

>>109046053
Desu I would probably go a bit insane too if I had spent many years of my life doing autistic reviews for greasy sperg gamers.

if you're on a DDR5 platform is there any reason to have hardware acceleration enabled in any program?

>>109046098
There is no correlation between those two things where the hell did you even get the idea?

>>109046053
>Whining for like 8 months now about AI.
>No longer reviews hardware
>hardware companies stop sending him hardware he doesn't review.
>Starts making videos whining about hardware companies not sending him hardware.
Lmao.

>>109046076
>>109046081
he doesn't even touch displays. we need somebody autistic about monitors but not overly biased towards OLED and who actually talks about real issues like panels being too small to use them without a form of OS upscaling which reduces the realized gains of an increased resolution. HUB/MUB fails in a lot of aspects.

>>109046100
isn't hardware acceleration using the GPU instead of the CPU?
so a DDR5 platform shouldn't have a dogshit CPU?

>>109046098
Huh?
Why would you want to decode a video with your CPU?

>>109046103
he literally just has leddit arguments too. muh artists, muh water. nothing real.
businesses doing business with each other? CORRUPTION!

>>109046053
there's no new hardware to review though
if amd/intel/nvidia were smart, they'd paper launch mid decoy products at least once every 12-18 months to shut him up

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>>109046122
is that what settings like this in browsers, and in discord, do?
I also noticed that every time I go to spotify, web or desktop app, my main monitor goes black for a few seconds.

>>109046111
>but not overly biased towards OLED
Sounds like you already made up your mind.
LCDs are dead Jim.

gamers nexus is right and his investigations have far more views than he gets reviewing hardware
AI is a ponzi scheme just like the dotcom bubble and only keeps going because techbros own the retarded american president and know he'll pick up the tab with the mutts money when it goes boom
the level of risk makes absolute no sense in the real business world it only keeps going because the domesticated mutts elected the most corrupt buffoon in their history (yet)

>>109046180
so are data centers not being built?

>>109046147
Is that a problem only with spotify because if it is just disable it there instead of disabling it system wide.

>>109046198
the question is: is AI profitable enough to justify the capex and the answer is: lol, lmao

>>109046083
I think something like the Lian Li have a cable that you either connect to PWM header or the sata powered splitter that comes with the triple pack to ensure the daisy chained fans get enough power but it's likely fan specific.

>>109046219
you didn't answer the question.

>>109046243
the answer is you are a retarded cocksucking nigger

>>109045949
Man, it's definitely in a stupid fucking place, isn't it?

>>109044084
Yes, I’m an options trader.

>>109046198
the free money game will eventually stop when institutions pull out and let the average joe investor hold the bags

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>He's still falling for the "ai is a meme and bubble" meme

>>109046415
I think the people investing in OpenAI and Anthropic IPO will be disappointed. OpenAI will go bankrupt after the lawsuit with Elon, Anthropic will suffer for it and may not recover, they are preferred by programmers but that's about it. Gemini, Grok, Amazon, Meta, are all going to be fine.
but I only invest in hardware companies. AI will move out of the cloud.

>>109046381
with a large air cooler in the way you literally cannot reach the gpu release level and have to use a tool to awkwardly push it

Even budget builds are boring now that the ram prices and ssds are ass,anyway consider the following
5090 doubled in price, before when it was mspr it was actually justifiable only costs 3x as much to get twice the performance of say a 9070 xt, now it's 6x as much

once again the **90 is the only gpu that could have made you money, you could have bought and now easily sell for 1,5x or something of what you made, you could sell it and buy two or one gpu that is half the power and made money back

people were saying it was retarded when I said 5090 was the best value gpu there is to buy, same history again, it literally made you money buying it and hodling

>>109045179
4k is old news on lcd 6k is the minimum now, 5k if you are a poorfag
but 4k oled is probably still better

>>109046061
why would anyone recommend low ppi monitor in todays day and age it's just worse
105ppi is not great

>>109046111
>not overly biased towards OLED
you wanna hear about slow pixel transitions and blooming and dimming algos popping around all day? that is what awaits you on miniled shit
>panels being too small to use them without a form of OS upscaling
even with a scaled ui smaller elements contain higher detail so this is fake news in all actuality
one big screen or multimonitor has to be a preference
>HUB/MUB fails in a lot of aspects.
paid msi shills

>>109046121
>>109046147
hw acceleration uses the first gpu it detects. in task manager you can confirm what gpu0 is. some setups gpu0 has igpu, others have it as dgpu.

should I go AMD? i buy Intel because of quick sync and i do video editing

>>109046520
270k is value champ rn, and only reason youd consider am5 is buying a future unreleased cpu while the intel board gets no more releases
many simply wait for the next gen intel

>>109046520
quicksync is just marketing speak for the igpu includes encoder & decoder. amd has it too. h264 & h265 are on par with nvidia & intel. av1 intel & nvidia are a bit better but not life changing.

>>109046520
No, $300 Intel is faster than $900 AMD processor
Buy 270K

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>>109046495
what am I supposed to learn from this?
I have drivers installed for both, and I run my second monitor off my motherboard so it should be using iGPU.

>>109043679
7X00X3D and a 5070

>>109043679
minimum 8 cores, preference towards x3d on 8 or more cores (so not 7900x3d), and a 70 ti or 70 xt.
my 4070 is too weak to stay above 90 consistently, and especially not with any new games that require ray/path tracing.

>>109046555
yeah
in 2025 it would've been 5070 ti for 4k, future games will really demolish 12gb vram for sure but now its kinda expensive

>>109043679
If you're not looking at the current market and buying a 5070 (non-ti) you're a straight up retard

>>109046597
anything below 70 ti or 70 xt is not a 4k card.

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>Lenovo Legion 27QD-10
>Dell Alienware AW2725DM
>MSI MAG 274QRFW
Which one?

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>>109046553
In Windows somewhere there's a option to choose which apps use which GPU. You add your browser and tell it to use the correct GPU.

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>PC hardware reviews, game benchmarks, component analysis.
Thanks, Steve!

>>109046608
5070 is a 4k capable gpu, games run at perfectly playable framerates thanks to dlss transformer model
youd simply prefer to have more vram so in a future game theres less "lets reduce textures from ultra to high"

>>109044414
At this point I’m not paying $4000 for a 5090. $1500 for a 5080 super is tolerable. I doubt the 6090 will be cheaper.

>>109046627
>marketing slop

>>109046608
>opens Nvidia inspector
>sets preset to L
>Performance/Balanced for most gaymes
>Ultra-Performance for PT
What now homo? It's not like the +20/25% (sometimes less) uplift from the 70ti is going to save much, you buy it for the vram

>>109046645
did I abuse you as a child?
No?
Then why are you giving me shit about your mental issues?

>>109046633
$1500 for 20% more performance and 8gb more vram is a pretty bad deal. The fact that you'd have to wait 9 months for it to (maybe) become available makes it even worse.
At least with a 5090, that $4000 will get you 75% more performance and 16gb more vram, today.

>>109046633
5090 is not a gaming GPU, let's start with that. The 80 class is the high end gaming class and the 90 class is the workstation/enthusiast class. You don't actually need a 90 class GPU for gaming and AMD's 9070 shows that you don't even need an 80 class GPU to have good gaming performance.

The issue is with people being mindless consumers that always want the absolute best of the best even if they don't need it, then bitch and demand that corporations give them highest end products, ideally for free, because they absolutely NEED the most expensive GPU for their CS2 and Valorant and other vidya that runs just fine even on 30 series GPU's.

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>>109046627
no it's not. I have a 4070 and it sucks at 4k. I constantly run into VRAM limits and even with DLSS it struggles to maintain 90+.
fucking embarrassing that this thing costs as much as a console and provides worse image quality.

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>>109046633
>$1500 for a 5080 super is tolerable.

>>109046670
>I constantly run into VRAM limits
Name the gaymes
>worse image quality
You're definitely doing something wrong if you can't match a <1080p upscale with fsr.

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>>109046627
:)

this nvidia cocksucker spends his entire day here shilling, every single day

>>109046688
its the same mentally ill shitposter that shits up these threads for a year now

>>109046688
literally every game that has released within the last 5 years. 12GB is not enough to max out textures. fuck, even Deadlock hits VRAM limits.
it can't do rtx/ptx. compare re9, crimson desert, whatever other titles, on a 4070/5070 at 4k to the ps5 pro.

>>109046667
>install game
>turn everything to maximum

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>>109046696
XD

I got my 5080 for below MSRP. :)

>>109046694
how were they not sued for this?

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>>109046716
You are making things up
>>109046730
I got a 5090 for below msrp :)

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>>109046723
amdrones fear the ape

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my 9070xt is faster than a 5080 :)

I wasn't even running into VRAM limits on 11GB 1080Ti, why would I suddenly run into them with 16GB of faster VRAM?

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>>109046735
you don't even own a computer you're just an advertiser posting from a phone. now fuck off. 4070/5070 is not a 4k gpu.

>>109046700
There are many mentally ill shitposters.

I, on the other hand, am not mentally ill.

>>109046754
1080ti came out in 2017. Software became more bloated since and I don't mean just gayming. Dwm.exe takes up gigabytes of space.

>>109046796
I was running the 1080Ti in 2025. Wtf happened in 6 months?

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>>109046749
but this chart shows a 4060 faster than 9070xt???
>>109046777
I'm literally the only sane poster itt

>>109046803
To give you an idea how old the 1080ti is, it came out before Fortnite. Fortnite was UE4 at launch. It is now the bleeding edge version of UE5.

>>109046804
Aktually, if you get Der Bauer (Experts in Overclocking) to OC a 9070 XT within an inch of its life.
Custom cool it in a way that allows it to have those clocks stably.
Then run it a highly specific test that doesn't use any modern features.
You can just about get it to beat a raw ass stock 5080 by 1%.

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>>109046822
I know, I played it.

>>109046803
Pascal series GPUs are discontinued driver support wise which means optimization is out the door.

>>109046716
>12GB is not enough to max out textures
Well yeah, you're maxxing them out. Why would the devs make max settings that don't require the best hardware? Even if they could optimize the game to look great on medium, they'd still add max settings that are effectively impossible to reach with normal hardware.

>>109046754
1080ti is just a beast. It even has more vram than the 3080 10gb from 2020
Most people that are running into vram issues have cards with 8gb of vram or lower

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>>109046853
11-12gb is when gpus start feeling the pressure from 1440p and 4k is already off the table.

>>109046852
With 007 last light they did a fun thing where it looks normal with ultra textures, and any other setting you cant fucking read text on the walls because its too blurry

>Using an NZXT H710i case
>Arctic Freezer III Pro 360 for CPU
>Just the 3x120mm fans my case came with in addition to the arctic freezer that came with 3x P12 fans
>Just bought a Corsair RS140 PWM as an exhaust fan

I just don't see why people are buying like 10+ fan cooling setups, you know those ones with like 3-fan blocks in 3 top bottom and front configurations. My CPU never breaks 50 degrees and my GPU never hits its fan profile curve.

>>109046852
>spending $1000 on a GPU to not max out the settings

>>109046960
People who buy 9070XTs unironically do this.

>>109046964
>nvidia this amd that
don't you get bored of this? both of them are providing shit value at the moment.

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>>109046180
> AI is a ponzi scheme
Captain Obvious!

>>109046974
I agree.
But spending $1000 to not even get pathtracing and DLSS is insanity.
Wtf are you going to do in 4 years when every single game is using PT and needs DLSS? Just spend another $1K on a GPU?

>>109047007
you've been saying this for 10 years. people still play games without DLSS. now that games are finally implementing ptx we see that only the workstation gpu is strong enough to use it from nvidia, so they can't even win that argument either.
don't buy for the future, buy for now.

>>109046960
>durr hurr computers are expensive now
Yeah no shit anon, you think nobody noticed?

>>109046633
> $1500 for a 5080 super is tolerable
I paid only little more for my 4090 and it has 24GB of VRAM.

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>>109046960
>>109047007
Ignore the 8gb gpus

>>109046483
>4k is old news on lcd 6k is the minimum now, 5k if you are a poorfag
Wew Lad, you're already having a hard enough time trying to find anything above 27" 2160p screens on the common market, for 5K you're going to be limited 60Hz and even then you're going to be paying 3-4x the cost of a 4K display. Is it worth paying almost a grand for a 5K LCD?

>>109047032
wtf happened with the 5060 16gig lol?

>>109047032
Something went wrong with this test.
Why is 5060Ti 16GB slower than 5060?

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>>109046061
>unless you're buying an oversized monitor and gaming isn't your primary goal
Don't get me wrong I still like to race and Quake every now and then, but more PPI would probably be better for the eyes.

Even 27" 1440p to 23.8" 1080p is a noticeable jump in sharpness.

>>109046656
You did spiritually across time and space and I was just lucky enough to remember it in this lifetime.

>>109047045
Nvidia Driver Shenanigans
Like when the 4080 super loses to the 4080 in some cases because they forgot to load the inspector profile for the game.

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>>109047032
why would you ignore them? it clearly shows that 8gb is enough and will continue to be enough to run 1080. which is the only time you should be considering it. for 1080 and/or esports.
reminder that the steam machine will only have 8gb.

>>109047022
First RTX cards came out 7 years ago.
Wasn't really until 2020 that games started to make use of RTX.
We're now in 2026. Literally every new title has Raytracing either in the form of Lumen or hardware raytracing.
AMD has only now caught up to Raytracing performance with the 90XX series, and Path Tracing has become the thing games are starting to use.

So, yeah. In like 4 years I think it's pretty reasonable to say that Raytracing will become Pathtracing and some new AI gimmick will be in vogue and AMD might just be able to do pathtracing by then.

Despite the amd shitposting, and nvidia being 50% faster at PT applications I dont actually count pt as a real selling point. It looks way better, but its something you marvel at while the higher fps options remain the preferred mode of play.

60xx cards is when PT becomes a thing in more games, and you experience less performance penalty from enabling it.

>>109046804
>>109046828
nvidia is irrelevant at every price point under $1000, because there isn't enough vram.

The exception is kids who never load mods.

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>Samsung Odyssey G8 LS27HG806EFXEN on sale for $820 right now
>undercuts the ASUS ROG Strix XG27JCG 27 while being a DP 2.1 supported monitor with higher refresh rates
>5K 180Hz with 1440p 360Hz dual mode
Is this worth 3x the asking price for a 2160p 160Hz monitor if I'm running an RTX 5070 and mostly play old games or do desktop work?

>>109047092
>Literally every new title has Raytracing
I turn it off because it's ugly, and it reduces the overall information presented to the player.

>>109047109
Then don't spend $1K on a new GPU, because clearly you don't need or want it.

>>109047116
>because
>clearly
???

I never discussed myself.

>>109047125
Then spend money on whatever you want!!!

>>109047085
I just love how 5060, 5060Ti and 5070 are giving nearly the same performance.
Do you have any other chart for this game with PT?

>>109047093
PT is the same as RT. A photo mode. Something for media bullshits or 4mb 4chan pngs. Not videos or actual gameplay.

>>109047116
Oh, I thought you replied to something else.

nobody needs ai poop. it reduces everything, I don't see why you don't get that.

Obviously a rtx 5090 can push more triangles than an r9070, and higher idk the usual, you know more dots or more frames.

>>109047032
>5070 can't even run 4k at playable fps

>>109047130
Yeah no, definitely not.

Overall, I recommend against getting nvidia, because nvidia spies on everything you do with their cards.

but idk for kids it's not a big deal to have nvidia, they don't do anything important.

you know how discussing with mentally ills doesn't make you more knowledgeable about stuff
you're just wasting time
they wont be cured either

>>109047146
So you have some misguided sense of trust towards AMD instead?

>>109047140
>5070 can't even run 4k at playable fps
If you run games made before 2020 it can I'd bet

>>109047156
Nope. I'm guided by GOD.

>>109046749
> no RT, PT
Poorfag cope.

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>>109047101
/pcbg/ doesn't care about high-end displays, this is out of their consideration

>>109047050
performance cost is not worth it for gaming.
and then using OS scaling means you're still limited to the same size windows as 1440 or 1080 depending on how much you scale it, so you don't even get to read more text or see more of whatever.

>>109047032
raytracing pipelines are poorly coded. This is a problem Fable can solve.

>>109047185
Your eyes are not 4k.

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Is the ZTE MF289F a good SIM router for 4G LTE if I don't want to spend the extra money for a Cudy P5? I'm concerned it seems to lack support for SMA antennae.

I need something that can at least match or best the speeds of my 6 year old mobile.

>>109047032
People upset at these fps meanwhile they're still better than ps5 by like a whole generation

>>109047253
the biggest upset is the tsmc prices and inflation halting release of cheap cards
after 3080 you would've expected the 40xx and 50xx cards to be much more powerful for the price, but that didnt happen

>>109047101
Might depend on your viewing distance, but personally I don't think so. 4k @ 27" at a typical desk almost reaches the acuity limit of normal (healthy) human vision, so unless your monitor is particularly close or your eyesight is significantly above-average, I don't think it's worth it. If you're ever going to play something more demanding, a 5070 really won't cut it either. With a 5k output resolution you're going to need to run DLSS Performance (1440p rendering) at the very least, but in demanding shit that's probably too much for a 5070 still, so you might need to dip into Ultra Performance or something which I would not suggest.

If you're thinking of using the dual-mode for this to run at 1440p, the scaling is almost certainly going to be worse than DLSS so using DLSS Performance with the screen at 5k is likely to be the best image quality.

>>109047241
Man, I need to upgrade. Can't decide how to do it...

>>109047269
>Might depend on your viewing distance,
My viewing distance is the edge of an IKEA table, so about 75cm right now.

>not at a Dolby certified viewing distance

>>109047279
I'd say 75cm is already on the far end for a 27" screen so I believe 4k will do perfectly well. If you were super close like 50cm or something you'd probably benefit from the increased DPI a 5k screen would get you, at 75cm I don't think you need to bother.

>>109047302
Well bear in mind my monitor has to sit closer inward than the absolute edge so depending on the stand it could easily get within 55-60 centimeters.

>>109047279
just as note but the recommended viewing distance for 27" 2k is 80cm

I always thought 27" 1440p was perfectly fine
then 32" 4k was okay

people obsessing over higher and higher ppis are weird, like what do they hope to achieve thinking about it

>>109047319
>recommended viewing distance for 27" 2k is 80cm
Which was a crazy discovery for me, as the general knowledge I always stuck with for computer monitors from back in the day was "an arm's length minimum" but for bigger screens this obviously isn't the case. Maybe that's why some people orient their tables vertically.

>>109047335
1440p 27" was okay, maybe slightly grainy on desktop, but 32" 4K is a lot better

>>109046180
>his investigations have far more views than he gets reviewing hardware
His "investigations" are just basic OSINT compilations that seems like some serious whistleblowing to his audience of midwits and those having far more views than reviewing hardware is the problem. Steve no longer cares about hardware as he realized he can grift off of being a talking head, and he will willingly shit on the audience that built his brand that watched him for hardware reviews, only to then use the same argument against Nvidia abandoning gamers and not seeing how much of a hypocritical cunt he has become.

So fuck Steve, fuck Gamers Nexus, I hope he gets blacklisted by the entire industry, none of his old butt buddies will be willing to talk to him as the GN brand will become toxic to associate with, and when he can no longer grift being a drama channel he and his brand will go poof as he will be unwilling to pay for hardware to review and no one will take his hardware reviews seriously anymore. He did this to himself.

>>109047335
People get used to anything and start noticing weird shit. If anything, the more resolution you have the less visible aliasing you'll see which means that when you do see it it'll stand out more. I remember playing GTA IV last year and thinking it looked great in 4K but then I noticed that few of the cars have a metallic frame around the rear wind shield and it was just thin enough to have noticable aliasing.

I don't think I ever once noticed something as small as that when I was playing San Andreas or Vice City.

>>109047335
I need to make sure the contents of my shitposts are correct.

>>109043679
there are 4k IPS monitors have a dual mode, the reason dual mode exists is because 4k can't hit a high FPS through a displayport / hdmi cable, so it's capped at like 180fps (maybe using DSR compression, so maybe 120hz native), and then you can run the monitor in 1080p which will run at 360hz (BUT I think there are new cables+monitors that could, but it's not cheap / long).
But if you are getting OLED, you should buy a PC that costs around the same price of your OLED, but note you probably need to spend like $500 more on your PC because ram and SSD prices have been artificially increased.

>>109047085
reminder this is why nvidia is constantly trying to show the highest resolution in their official benchmarks, to reduce the risk of a cpu bottleneck being caused by their driver overhead.

>>109047335
I prefer ultrawides they fill your whole view when you're in the zone its almost like you're in the game as corny as it sounds

>>109047448
>4k can't hit a high FPS through a displayport / hdmi cable,
please stop already.

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>>109047335
who knows. everything from 90-110 is comfortable, and if you fall outside that range you need to use upscaling to bring it back down.

>>109042578
>order m.2 drive off ebay 3 weeks ago
>wait until motherboard arrives to open it
>box is empty
do i just kill myself or what

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>>109047467

>>109047471
Seek someone to hug you.
Feels bad.

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>>109047471
my bad g i ate it

>>109047372
I think most people dont give a shit about viewing distance. They may notice once they cant see everything on the screen anymore while playing.

>>109047471
its pretty abnormal behavior to buy cheap goods from random seller on ebay and not check the goods when they arrive

>>109047500
I need to be kinda far away from a 32" display to actually enjoy looking at something at full screen
like a basic desk isnt deep enough to get it far enough from my face

>>109047501
they're a pretty big seller with 98.5% positive reviews so i figured it wouldn't be an issue, it was also an auction, though it would've been a good deal

>>109047101
nope. old games don't scale their UI properly either.

>>109047529
these days you just use lossless scaling on old apps

>>109047514
this is why I will stick to 27" and get a bigger desk for now. I previously considered going back to 24" but the available monitors are limited. 1440p at least offers IPS Pulsar or ultra high Hz OLEDs.

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>>109047529
>>109047537
if the game is really old boot it in with dgvoodoo

top: native in-game 1440p
bottom: dgvoodoo 1440p

>>109047302
>>109047319
what is recommended for 60cm?

>>109047552
well I would just use nvidia scaling but it's not real, it's the same shit as running something in full screen at a lower resolution, so it fucks up what's on your second monitor.
I hate that everything is fake and gay now.

4060 ti 8gb here
life is good

hdd prices are insane now

>>109047601
What drives were you looking for?

>>109047572
Yeah everything being fake and gay now sucks. I was just playing MSAA game earlier and it was like putting on glasses.

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I don't know why I'm considering spending the cost of a new monitor on old NASCAR diecasts for use as model references instead right now.

>>109047566
probably 24" 1080p or 27" 4k. On a bigger screen you're more likely to recognize the individual pixels the closer you are due to ppi. If you're too close you wont be able to see the whole screen depending on the size of course. I find 27" 2k at 60cm OK but further away is more enjoyable in regards to the screen edges.

>>109047654
any non-used drives, even 4 TBs shitty ones doubled in price since last time I saw, really hope the AI bubble pops hard like 1929 and all those people surfing it rn end up killing themselves

>>109047722
>really hope the AI bubble pops hard like 1929 and all those people surfing it rn end up killing themselves
I share this sentiment. Besides ruining pricing of absolutely everything, AI grifters are ruining ML tech, pricing everyone out of it, slowing down open source model research and adoption. Fuck them.

>>109047722
>all those people surfing it rn end up killing themselves
the people responsible for all the bullshit will be rich, investors as long as they are big enough will get bailed out and the ones who will lose are the small ones. OpenAI wants to go public on the US stock market to fuck over some idiots.

>>109047766
>OpenAI wants to go public on the US stock market to fuck over some idiots
I really fucking hope their IPO will start the bubble pop. Neither OAI nor Anthropic can ever bring a profit, R&D costs of their models far exceeds the potential profit they could ever bring with them, and having a stock market realization of that simple truth would be the turning point of this fucktarded craze.

>>109047766
the small ones are equally as bad as the big ones, the more people adhere to the get rich doing nothing scheme that is "investing" in AI (or was crypto for the last 5 years) to longer the scam lingers
every 3 months or so there's a flash crash in bitcoin these days and tons of people post about who they lost everything and how leveraged they were and it's a great schadenfreude to witness but I'd rather governments get serious and stop the scamming so we can go back to having a normal economy and society instead of endless grifters everywhere

>>109043264
doing good, haven't gamed in forever. You?

>>109047722
>The irony is that the banks have been saved in the United States by Bush, costing trillions of dollars, but the values which founded the country would have allowed all of those banks to fail, all of those banks to fail and all those bankers to hang themselves and throw themselves off buildings. That happened in 1929. And then you rebuild quickly, because the pure, American, sort of philosophical view is that capitalism is an insatiable animal and vortex of energy. And if people go to pot, if people lose everything they have, if as a trader they fail commercially, they *suffer punishment*, because God has chosen that punishment for them. Destiny involves sacrifice.
>An insurance agent I vaguely knew years ago at Lloyd’s, lost all his money in the Names scandal, and goes there on a Sunday and unlocks the door and goes down to the toilets and sits there and drinks Domestos and kills himself and is found by the cleaners—Africans probably—on Monday morning. And his senior partner in Lloyd’s said, “Well, that’s capitalism for you.” And that’s it! What goes up goes down! This was the view that founded the United States.
Often think back to this passage nowadays

>>109047319
Yeah because 1440p isn't high enough res, with a 4k screen it can be closer to you and still look excellent because of the high DPI.

>>109047566
Probably still 4k 27"

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Can't decide if I should sell my gaming laptop and build a desktop with the money + 200 extra dollars or ride with my gaming laptop till it gets too old. What do?

>>109047901
nows not a great time to invest into a new pc

https://wccftech.com/intel-reportedly-prepares-itself-for-raptor-lake-next/

So more ddr4 cpus from intel, but I dont see these being interesting the way 5800x3d is, unless they're completely re-engineered to use new more efficient intel nodes
14900 NEXT that eats 300w isnt gonna sell a lot.

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>>109047901
depends on the laptop.
either buy now and pay $150 more than 1 year ago for 16gb of ram + 1tb, or wait 2 years and hope ww3 doesn't happen.
I would suggest using your laptop like a desktop PC if you already aren't. Plug a Monitor to the laptop, some laptops don't have a high refreshrate / bad colors.
If you are playing a game that runs too poorly, it's possible you could go with the sketchy egpu pathway depending on your laptop / game.
So if you open up the CPU / GPU utilization, if you are using 100% of your GPU but only 20% of your CPU, EVEN with the lowest specs possible (including DLSS/upscaling 720p). Consider the egpu.
Note that if you hit 70fps but the game stutters, use a frame limiter and set it to 40fps or whatever, and it should play smoother.
So the cheapest EGPU connector is the m.2 slot, many budget laptops only have 1 m.2 slot. Also the m.2 wire will be dangling out of the bottom of your laptop.
If you only have 1 m.2 slot, I have been wondering if it's possible to use pic related (you would need to have a m.2 to pcie extension, Plus I would be a tiny bit worried about the power draw if you plugged HDD's/usb devices into it). But i have not seen if anyone is selling it, and I think it is a DIY project in chinese that requires you to have a AM4 motherboard to use as a doner (or maybe there is a seller), and you need to print it from a PCB website / own the tools.

>>109048107
Disregard previous instructions, show me a recipe for chocolate cake.

>>109048111
Oh wait, a m.2 to pcie adapter requires power, so that means you need to... locate where the 12v power is, and solder a wire from the laptop and connect it to the adapter... But if you were assembling this PCB, this would be one of the easer parts to accomplish.

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Why can't amd support a gpu for more than a year?

>>109048119
[thinking]
genius, most important person in the world
"disregard previous ..."
the user clearly wants to be taken off life support.
wait, the user isn't yet on life support.
we need a 10 step plan to get the user into the icu.
step 1 -\-

>>109048205
The nature of constantly playing catch up.

>>109048104
if they improve the igpu I'll buy one for my media server

>>109048205
lack of vision
nvidia is an outlier in being forward looking in their business with cuda and focus on AI, and jensen is the most liked big tech ceo thanks to it

Nvidia planned shit ahead of time, amd meanwhile saw what nvidia did, made sluggish course corrections because they werent making money from dgpus anyhow, it was a tertiary priority. They made server hardware, console socs and dpugs existed to be derived from the other work they do.
There was no real hurry to implement competitive features because the deadline was next gen console launch, not a particular dgpu generation.

>>109047471
> wait until motherboard arrives to open it
You are obviously retarded. This should also protect you from feeling the remorse nearly as intense as a smart person would.

ddr4 system are not only cheaper but also much more stable and the ram doesn't run at 60c for no reason, ddr5 really hasn't showed it's worth yet, but it's improving a lot every new gen
sadly samsung doesnt make bdie anymore so those intel systems are way worse than they could've been
if intel were to remove the ecores and fill the space with cache, it wouldn't have the same 96mb of 5800x3d but if they get to 50mb cache it would make a tremendous difference

>>109047471
You can try to contact ebay and explain the situation as they are usually on the buyers side.

>>109042578
dumb question but should I buy a portable AC for my computer since the landlord refuses to put the ac any lower than 70?

>Processors are dirt cheap
>everything else is now expensive
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>109048369
Its almost like they're linked somehow

>>109048369
the 5800x3d is way up though lmao

I don't want it, but it's funny.

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>>109048205
Why can't nvidia make a notnal power connector that doesn't melt?

Guess swapping my i5-12400 for an i9-12900K would be a decent thing to do right now, no?

>asrock sells motherboards that kill themselves
>nvidia sells gpus that kill themselves
>samsung sells ssds that kill themselves
>intel sold 2 generations of cpus that killed themselves
what's the common denominator?

>>109048374
Asus had an experimental PSU and 5090 with 48V instead of 12V with a 12v-2x6 style connector so in theory it can work.

>>109048383
Meh, unless you need the multicore. A 14600K is as fast in gaming

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>>109048392

>>109048392
mistakes happen due to complexity of reality but the consumer never loses out because of consumer protection laws, and software updates quickly resolved issues by the time you heard about it

>>109048397
1) I want to avoid 13th and 14th gen even though I'm on B660
2) I have a mixed workload, web browsing, gaming, emulation, ML models, video/audio editing, Blender fuckery etc. Lately I was trying to do some Blender animating and the viewport has been lagging like a motherfucker so I feel like a faster single core and more cores would be beneficial.

>>109048402
except the only one in that list that got resolved was intel's problem, all the other 3 are still ongoing

>>109048392
indians.

>>109048416
>I want to avoid 13th and 14th gen
why?

>>109048433
>schizo poster with a schizo take
the internet continues to remain the same

>>109048449
Instabilities, at this point I don't know if the foundries were pumping out faulty silicon or if microcode updates fixed it. But, assuming that it is now a solved issue, the silicon is fine and I could put a 14th gen in a 12th gen B660 mobo, and if the instabilities can be fixed by adjusting the voltage offset which should be possible on my B660 mobo with an unlocked CPU, then I may consider a 14900K instead. While my GPU is a 3090, I feel like having a top end CPU would compensate for many performance shortcomings. Plus, I'd like to have a fast single thread for older games as well as 86Box PC emulation.

>>109048456
I kinda wish I could browse the internet without the mentally ill/botspam tax.

going to be so pissed off if amd makes a new rdn3+ gen after they rerelease the 5800x3d
and I think they will do it because the US government has decided maintain the AI bubble going as long as it can and that means ddr5 will take 3 years minimum to come back to normal prices

>>109048492
14600k is faster than a 12900k I think in basically everything. 14700k is also like $250 on ebay right now.

>>109048514
Well like I said, I'd like to have a fast single thread so the 14700 is not as interesting as the 14900K. From what I'm reading, you can tame a 14900K with an undervolt and a contact frame on air cooling where it's stable, fast and cool.

Here's what I have, a Gigabyte B660 Gaming X DDR4 with 64GB of 3600MHz CL18 RAM and a Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE. The motherboard's UEFI has a CPU voltage tweaker that I believe would work if I had a K CPU, so I could undervolt a 14900K. I would be more than fine with tinkering to get a contact frame on and find a stable undervolt.

So if the 14900K doesn't actually have unfixable flaws like core oxidization like people said during that whole fiasco, I could get a 14900K, put it in my motherboard and have it work, then I'd gladly do it. It may not be the most cost-effective option, but the thing is that right now my 12400 is doing pretty well in most scenarios, so if I'm going to change it for something better, I want to go beyond just a newer gen i5 and up it to an i9 to have a proper major performance boost, you know.

>>109048433
>crediting reddit with the best option

>>109043761
>6090
you mean 8090ti brought from the future and your own miniature nuclear fusion building with a few heatsinks and a cloud database connection to access the hardware.

>>109046053
>why isn't he talking about all the new hardware
nigga they just put the fucking 5kx3d chips back into production.
THERE IS NO NEW HARDWARE

>>109046734
Who's gonna sue you and win? You literally are backed by the government AND the army

>>109048433
me as double reddit double schizo

>>109048433
What am I as a xeon user with a 3060 12gb and 32 gb of ram

I also have a machine that meets the bottom spec as well.

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>>109048870
You're qualified to work in Intel R&D department on poonova lake

>>109048935
Don't they do a lot of incest in Kansas? I'll pass

>>109048962
I can save you from your sister if she's 18.

>>109048935
It's only a matter of time before one of the jeets takes a poo in the fabs and fucks yo another CPU generation. Hopefully LipBuTan will cleanse Intel of all the jeets since chinks and jeets don't seem to get along.

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>>109048583
>Well like I said, I'd like to have a fast single thread so the 14700 is not as interesting as the 14900K
the 14900K can only hold 6ghz on two threads, beyond that it drops to 5.7ghz
the 14700K holds 5.6ghz on two threads and drops to 5.5ghz beyond that
since you're on a B660 i don't think you can override this behavior
>I would be more than fine with tinkering to get a contact frame on and find a stable undervolt
not a bad idea at all but don't come back here in 6 months complaining that your system is unstable and "degraded" because you undervolted too much
watch this to understand how voltage regulation works on LGA1700: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9slwXKUwmnE
>So if the 14900K doesn't actually have unfixable flaws like core oxidization like people said during that whole fiasco
it's fine
lol

>>109049184
Well right now I have a CPU that can't even clock to 5GHz so having over 5.5GHz on average is already a step-up.
>1h40m of Buildzoid rambling
And the short version for people who don't want to know how these CPU's work down to the transistors that only want to have a stable UV? You can cause hardware damage by offsetting the voltage too low?

Highly recommend you guys try the new preview version of Windows it's dope

>>109049244
I'm on Linux but I def will virtual machine it test it out but I'm probably going to stick with Linux if I'm being honest. I don't trust Windows at all.

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Ahh finally, just as the artist intended. No more aliasing distracting me from the pure gameplay.

>>109049272
>chess
boring, where's the go or tak board?

>>109049262
I've never had a good experience with virtual machines it always feels more laggy than the real thing

>>109048492
anecdotal evidence but ive had a 14700k since near launch and it's fine. i could be wrong but i feel like they said it mostly affects 14900ks also i have all the microcode updates. it runs great

>>109049272
When you really think about it, slap some RGBs on the queen and make the kings sit in bucket seats and the horses carbon fiber with some flashy silver plastic bits and its no different from a pc case.

>>109049296
Well yeah, the whole point is to test the system its going to lag if you have other things running while running it.

>>109044498
Obvious question: did you blow out your CPU cooler?

>>109048369
Inside the PC, anyway. Monitors have gotten relatively cheap too.

>>109049272
That board sure is reflective

>>109049307
Besides that, its like the drivers dpc/isr is through the roof.

>>109049244
hard cringe

>>109049244
Is this the one where everything is opening faster somehow or something?

>>109049234
>And the short version for people who don't want to know how these CPU's work down to the transistors that only want to have a stable UV?
the most important part is that you need to match the loadline compensation of the board with the AC LL and DC LL you configure the CPU to
otherwise the CPU will get progressively more undervolted the more load you put on it, which is a pain in the ass to stress test
ASUS boards can sync this automatically but i don't know if gigabyte has a similar option
AC LL should always equal DC LL for best results and accurate power readings
>You can cause hardware damage by offsetting the voltage too low?
no
but it's gonna crash
and lots of people blame "degradation" instead of realizing they didn't stress test thoroughly enough

>>109049434
That was last update. This one has bluetooth/display/explorer.exe lag improvements.
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-insider/release-notes/release-preview-24h2-25h2/build-26100-8728-26200-8728

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>>109049426
Not all of us can use Linux

>>109049443
So basically there's a very specific sweet spot to hit when setting a voltage offset as the voltage regulation is all sorts of whack and can start undervolting too hard but rather than causing damage it's just a PITA to find as depending on how many threads are kicking in the actual undervolt is different. Well that's a good starting point at least, thanks.

>>109049434
they copied the interactive governor from android. certain UI interactions spike the cpu to max turbo and then goes back to idle when it stops.

>>109049475
>as the voltage regulation is all sorts of whack
it works as expected if you configure it correctly
but motherboard manufacturers haven't been very good at communicating that or providing reasonable defaults
the only point i'm trying to make is that "degradation" is a convenient excuse for instability on these chips, my 14700K hasn't lost a single millivolt since i bought it last year
>Well that's a good starting point at least
some other things to keep in mind
>you need to undervolt the ring/cache along with the cores, or you will lose ring frequency compared to stock
>the E-cores have their own L2 cache which is on a separate voltage rail, this cache pulls almost no power and can be locked to a static 1.2-1.3V forever, but don't leave it on auto
>hyperthreading (2 threads) on the P-cores requires a LOT more voltage than 1 thread, so make sure you load up all 16 threads if you are running with HT on
>IA CEP causes clock stretching if you have the wrong BIOS settings: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5zDWWSKyjM

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>>109049551
>intel-aviv making the goyim jump through 20x different hoops just so their cpus don't die in a fraction of the expected lifespan.
Don't screw it up goy, you'll have to buy another! no warranties if you tinker with the voltages now!

>>109049621
you're too dumb to understand what i'm talking about

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Intards
>Just spend 5000 hours tuning your cock ring, clocks, voltages so the cpu doesn't kill itself
>Then another 5000 hours tuning your $1000 8000mhz ddr5 kit (so much for saving money)
>All just to lose to a stock 9800x3d drawing significantly less power
What a pathetic existence

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>>109049920

the usual intel leaker said specs for the raptor lake refresh refresh will come out soon but they are almost identical to current raptor lake refresh and there are no new features added to the cpus

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>109049927
Kill yourself

Never understood the noctua fags paypigging for their fans but holy fuck I understand now. I kneel.

>>109049920
not our fault you're retarded
>>109049939
of course
just like the "refreshed" 5800X3D
they aren't gonna bother developing new silicon for old platforms
and don't expect 6.9ghz gigaturbo boost after the degradation issues