Look at this hypocrisy.>If buying isn't owning, pirating isn't stealing.I bet he is not pirating only what corporations are making him subscribe to use. Also if was that the case, he would still be wrong, because stealing is stealing. Only antichrists would agree with him.>If buying isn't owningBuying is owning, so let us start there. If you subscribe for something, you're not buying anything, you're renting.Learn the difference.
Literal corporate shill
>>109044752>Only antichrists would agree with himKill yourself peter
>>109044752>he would still be wrong, because stealing is stealing. Only antichrists would agree with him.It is impossible to steal something digital because it is non-tangible and infinitely copyable. Nobody is losing the master copy unless you stole it from the physical archives. >Buying is owning, so let us start there. If you subscribe for something, you're not buying anything, you're renting.I agree. That is true. The problem is assuming "ownership" needs to exist for digital things to begin with. It doesn't. All software, digital media, etc, is free, all it is is artificial restrictions imposed on it
>>109044752>We bought this land fair and square, it's ours now>Oh, you didn't agree to sell nor got any of the money? Too bad, we can kill you if don't leave
>>109044752Pirating "community" is the most annoying experience of pirating, aside from malware, pirating chest thumping on reddit is the most horrible aspect of this
>>109044752So your business is a renting service? Cool, i want to play games, where are, locked down but enduser responsibility free "loan for use" game devices already coupled with a full internet stack included with a dedicated isp contract? Because that's the best you can have for proper RENTING regarding digital content, believing you can dissociate the content from the device is asinine since the whole digital information pipeline is built on transfer by DUPLICATION. You corpo cockgarglers are the one supporting piracy, the corporation are the ones enforcing something unworkable offloading the cost of it to the actual consumers that get an inferior experience as result.
>>109044752Stealing data from people and then selling it back to them is stealing.Stealing model and not paying for a loicense is stealing too? I don't care to be honest with you. Why would care about it? Last time I checked, I was not fucked in the head. You?
>>109044752pirating isn't stealing either way, nigger. the owner still has his property.
>>109044752I'll still pirate most of the digital stuff
Thought terminating catchphrase
Why the mental gymnastics ? I steal and I'm OK with it.
>>109044752>I bet he is not pirating only what corporations are making him subscribe to useI think the point is, you don't really "own" anything digital that's covered by some sort of DRM, which is nearly everything.You're just buying a license to use the product in a certain way, and a license can be revoked. So you don't own it despite "buying" it. Renting has nothing to do with it. A subscription makes it very clear you're only paying to access a service for a limited time.
>>109045021Digital is ephemereal, ethereal, non-permanent, quantitative, profane. Luddites win.
>>109044752there is no such thing as "pirating". there is only filesharing. KYS
>>109044752what is this picture? i don't think fable 5 got leaked
>>109044781>It is impossible to steal something digitalCorrect. When you are pirating you are comimtting copyright infringement, which is way worse than stealing.
>>109044752I hate that retarded "if buying isn't owning" phrase. Piracy isn't stealing no matter what. There's no correlation there. If there was none of the buying a license bullshit with shitty terms of service around and you could buy ownership of the actual thing at fair conditions, piracy still wouldn't be theft.
piracy does not exist in the computing world. there is only filesharing and whites and kikes simply use the term "piracy" like they use "Narco-Terrorists", to demonize anyone who doesn't conform to their control and rape. KILL ALL WHITES AND KIKES and this nonsense ends. Only them will there planet be free
>>109044752>If you subscribe for something, you're not buying anything, you're renting.Don't worry, I'm not subscribing in the first place ;)
>>109044752Copyright where you demand money for something is theft. You just let goons (police) and magic spell casters (lawmakers, judges) enforce your theft, but it's still theft.
>>109045021Not even DRM, when you 'buy' something digital (even without subscriptions) the terms state that you don't actually own a copy of the software, but rather only a license to use the software.
>>109045302How is copying worse than stealing?
>>109044752You may be right.However- and I can't stress this enough- I don't give a shit.
>>109044752>Buying is owning, so let us start there.Various companies would beg to differ.
>>109045302Copyright is a made up concept though. It's a fake and gay monopoly
>>109047362I wish I could be this based, I end up buying everything on Steam anyway though for the cloud saves and achievements
>>109044752I WOULD DIE FOR ISREAL IF THE ISREALIS SENT A NUKE TOWARDS INDIA IN MY HONOR
>>109044752I don't get it, did he upload Claude?
>>109044752
>>109044752Who cares? I love stealing from big ebil corpos, what you're going to do about it? seethe.
>>109044752Is Fable Season 1 ep 9 good?
>>109044752A lot of people disregard the popularity boost piracy gives to products. Do you think anime would have gotten as popular if it wasn't for piracy for example? I think not.
>>109049482no its a rat and 3.39TB of junk dataevery jeet pc in the world will be part of the botnet soon
>>109049605Really? I've just downloaded it. How fucked am i?
>>109049535Soon the Internet will no longer be anonymous and lawbreakers like you will get your just "rewards" for your theft.
>>109049482No. It's fake. Other -> Models isn't even a category on TPB.
>>109044752>Only goyim would agree with him.who fucking cares about jews, especially those that try to fuck you over?
>>109049651create your own altnet on the internet then, it's just a service-agnostic network of networks anyways, not sure why it matter that globohomo-owned http services require an id and a photo of your dick.
>>109049722ISPs will know who you are. VPNs will become illegal. Anyone who accepts network traffic will be required to authenticate the source of that traffic. If you think this isn't the future you're blind.
>>109049651This is bait, but people actually think like this while these huge corporations rob and fuck us in the ass 24/7.
>>109049740>ISPs will know who you are.they already do>VPNs will become illegalthe fuck is a vpn is not an TLS tunnel, the fuck is the differences between gibberish I send on the pipes and actually encrypted content? we have ECH now so the entire dicussion can be encrypted, what are tehy going to do if everyone send "encrypte"d content at the same time? I can already tell you because it happened in china, thjey'll do fucking nothing because htere is nothing to they can do to deal with these petabytes of data.>Anyone who accepts network traffic will be required to authenticate the source of that trafficnope, good luck getting people in africa or asia to give a fuck about murica totalitarian retardation.>If you think this isn't the future you're blind.life is peaceful outside the mutt-captured market, never used facebook, never will, I don't give a fuck about giving my id because I'll never be forced to.
>>109049786>nope, good luck getting people in africa or asia to give a fuck about murica totalitarian retardation.ISPs will be required to block traffic to addresses that do not comply.>life is peaceful outside the mutt-captured market, never used facebook, never will, I don't give a fuck about giving my id because I'll never be forced to.No it isn't. America guarantees your freedom. You will comply or you will be forced to.
>4tb>2688/1 ratioGood luck.
>>109049803>ISPs will be required to block traffic to addresses that do not comply.lmao no, that's absolutely not how it works in countries with human rights and laws.>America guarantees your freedomHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAhow? when? never seen it happening, ever, anywhere, not even for mutt citizens, see hero snowden and assange leaks.>You will comply or you will be forced to.mutt globohomos have too much to lose by losing billions of customer because some retard in the white house has a manic episode or something, try electing someone not senile next time, 3 times in a row is a bit much, never though gerontophilia was a thing in the land of cuckolding...thank to orange retard, the first-world is getting its shit in order so we won't depend on mutts ever again, well fucking played.also thank to him anthropic is goin bankrupt sooner than expected, thank you.
>>109049855Retard. America is number one. You'll see.
>>109044752Piracy isn't stealing, it's a copyright violation. You either fundamentally don't understand what's going on or you acknowledge that it's not as bad as you make it out to be so you have to lie. Which is it, kike?
>>109044934you steal their time and effort. just say you are a nigger and move on.
>>109044752>piracyThis refers to the act of robbery, violence, or plunder committed by sea or boat-borne attackers against another ship, typically in international waters (the high seas) or locations outside state jurisdiction.>ib4 retardskill yourself faggotusing a computer for its intended purpose (copying a file) is not comparable to definition above in any imaginable way
>>109049897You don't steal their time and effort if you don't buy. Denounce the Talmud
>>109044752Piracy isn't theft because ideas aren't property. They aren't a physical good, so nobody can own them. You can't own an idea, so you can't steal one either.
>>109050552Yes they are, retard.
>>109050562No they aren't, it's literally in the US ConstitutionProperty is not something given to you for "limited Times" by Congress
>>109044752Yes It is stealing. I just don't care about AI and wish everyone was pirating everything because fuck corporations and fuck AI itself. I want to see chaos and destruction.
>>109050608Congress and the Constitution are wrong. Ideas are Property.
this thread is very radiant
>>109044781funny how only people who never put any work into creating things say this
>>109044752Shalom
>>109044752Copying isn't stealing either.
>>109050773stealing labor is stealing
>>109044752OP can only be one of three possibilities:>a troll>some indie game developer butthurt their retarded game didn't sell enough copies>an actual shill
>>109050779No labor was stolen. Data was copied.
>>109044752who even has the storage to download 3.4 terabytes? to find out if it's not garbage data
>>109050799wrong
>>109050779>>109050804>muh labor
>>109044752>3.4TiB of dolphin porn and cpno thanks
>>109050806"labor theory of value" is a specific commie viewpoint. you neets really are retarded aren't you
>>109050811You're the one assigning value to labor and claiming it was stolen, retard.
>>109050820labor *can* have value, which is not the same as "the labor theory of value," and regardless of that, it's stealing either way. If something is mine, you claim it has no value and steal it, that's still stealing. Your value assessment doesn't make it not stealing.you fucks are so unbelievably stupid
>>109049660>>109049482>>109044752It's rather funny that https://thepiratebay.org/ is down right now. I think it went down in the past hour.I wonder if a government employee saw this thread and scrambled to hit the DDOS button before even verifying if the leak was even real.
>>109050833>If something is mine, you claim it has no value and steal it, that's still stealing.If it's copied you still have it. It CAN'T be taken from you. That's not stealing.
>>109050848If my labor created the thing with the intent of selling it in return for my time and labor investment, you are in fact stealing by copying without my permission
>>109050833file sharing isn't stealing labour tho. stealing labour would be if you agreed on a price for labour with someone, then they didn't pay you. wage theft in other words.
>>109050855see >>109050854the thing you're copying is a result of my labor, which is not repaid when you copy it. If it's so without value, why not make your own instead of copying mine?
>>109050854There is no seizure, there is no taking away by force or depriving you of it, you still have it, you can still use and sell it, it's not stealing.
>>109050868no, I do not still have the time and effort I put into that
>>109050861>>109050872The courts have ruled it as copyright infringement and not theft. You can cope and seethe all you want, it's still not stealing.
>>109050861I didn't copy it from you, I copied it from my friend. Hence it was my friend's. If he got it from you, then didn't he pay you for it? Then never was it stolen.
>>109050879nope, because the usage was granted to him, not you. what matters is the effort put into creating the thing, and the usage of the thinglike this anon said >>109050874 it's copyright infringement
>>109050897>what matters is the effort put into creating the thingThat has never, ever mattered. Customers care about products and services, employers care about results. Less effort, more profit. You are a retard.
>>109050910>effort doesnt matter>Less effort, more profit.durr
>>109050916If you're splitting hairs I'm gonna stop arguing with you now. Go be a closeted lefty retard somewhere else.
>109050927>personal ownership is leftist nowyou don't even know what these words mean
>>109044752>I bet he is not pirating only what corporations are making him subscribe to use. Also if was that the case, he would still be wrong, because stealing is stealing. Only antichrists would agree with him.If you steal my car, I no longer have a car. That's why I don't want it stolen. If you built your own car that looks exactly like mine, I don't give a shit, I still have my car.
>itt: pedantic reddit argument over the literal meaning of the word "theft" and "stealing"pirates seek to benefit from the time and effort of others without giving anything in return. call it whatever you want, anyone with the slightest moral compass can understand this is nigger behavior.
What the fuck happened in this thread???Many replies right after midnight in isntreal.
>>109044752Huh? I just pirated Millennium Actress now. I'm gonna have a good time watchin' it tonight. I had a a double feature last night with Black Swan (2010) and Perfect Blue (1997). Right after I saw Black Swan, I posted what I thought about the movie in Discord. One of my mates told me about a bunch of fucking retarded weeaboo fucks thought that movie ripped off Perfect Blue. I watched Perfect Blue right after and yeah nah different movie. Black Swan was likely inspired by Perfect Blue, but I wouldn't say it "ripped it off". Both are good movies, and now I'm into whatever Satoshi Kon happened to make during his lifetime.
>>109052345I am a nigger. I don't give a fuck.
>>109052576that's great. you should just be honest about what it is. unless those niggers above>>109052581same with you, nigger
>>109052605>unless those niggers aboveunlike*
>>109044752rent seeking is the Antichrist>>109052581based
>>109044752I agree with OP actually. People should stop with that type of argument. Stealing from companies is just ok lmao.
>>109044752We the people decide what is good and lawful, and what is bad and a criminal, not asslickers like you filthy shill.
>>109050811created by the father of capitalism adam smith
>>109044752https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feeding_the_multitudehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleansing_of_the_Temple
>>109054759oh and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eye_of_a_needle
>>109049651It's now "theft", it's called "sharing"! You will kikes.
>>109045183It did, someone paid a resident Indian a few mil to put it on BitTorrent for a bit
>>109050721only god createshumans can only rearrange god's creations
Anyone download a magnet for fable 5 before the ddos?
>>109050779correct, behead the ruling class
>>109045009>>109044752>OY VEY >YOU COPIED A FILE >THAT'S LITERALLY STEALING
>>109044752im torrenting everything it's my second nature at this point... porn ill torrent it, games ill torrent them, ai models even those ill torrent them. Torrenting has become part of me. Gayman of 21th century says if buying isn't owning and hide behind some ideology of righteousness but this doesn't bother me. If you made something i will fucking take it for free and enjoy it while you were working days and nights on it and if i truly will like it i might end up buying it on steam other then that don't expect anything else from me.
Fable? You mean quite possibly THE greatest videogame of all time? Why isn't Microsoft suing Anthropic?
>>109044752>stealing is stealingcopying isn't stealing retard. corporations do it all the time. the underpinnings of AI are copying works. apple made a whole business out of copying shit the industry already made but with a logo of an apple that for some reason people bought.
>>109050633>Ideas are Property.My idea is that I own everything. Including you. Now shut up.
>>109055123>games ill torrent themif you weren't poor, retarded and probably unemployed or underage, installing pirated software on your devices from warez sites would be a major liabilityjeets/chinks/slavs getting access to your credentials, savings accounts and possibly your client credentials, digital infrastructure that you have access under some work contract
>>109044752>Buying is owning, so let us start there.Every media corporation says otherwise. When you buy a movie or a game, you're not buying the product you own, you're buying a license to the product that can be revoked at will.
Holy fuck PB is still under attack?? Fable (the game) definitely got leaked
>>109044752sorry paypig shill but i'll keep on pirating and using my wallet to support only those that do not treat me like a rentslave
>>109049867Yes, USA is number one when it comes to retardation. We can see that.
>>109044752>Download all content for free>Judge if the creator(s) has or have enough money to live comfortably at the moment or not.>Donate to them the total value you got for free.>Cut out the people in the middle, record labels, Spotify, etc.
>>109050721If I created something, what good would it do to create artificial restrictions? Monetization is still possible without copyright
>>109056731imagine putting work stuff on personal computerwork and home stuff should be on separate machines
>>109044752Explain to a snailcat, how does one run this shit locally?Is it compatible with llama or do you need that claude leak?
>>109060719it's a fake obviously
Fable isn't even worth pirating.
>>109049167Not that I will defend corporations, but property is also a made up concept.You can only own what you are physically able to protect, be it with the help of the government and police, or by your own means of force.Point being: if the police doesn't come to my house and delete my data, I get to own all the software and media I get from file sharing sites.
>>109060818the main problem is the copying effect, if something is copied, does everyone own it? does no one own it?
There is only one Fable worth pirating and that is The Lost Chapters.
>>109044752I see, you don't understand the meaning of the word "hypocrisy."Why is a Russian agency campaigning against piracy, though?
>corporations: users sharing files with each other is stealing>also corporations: I can use everyone's code, artwork and the entirety of human literature to train models that sometimes repeat copyrighted material verbatim without paying or even asking for permission
>>109044752>using piratebay in 2026enjoy your malware
>>109049897no, I don't. they have already invested the time and effort without counting on my contribution.and I'm not going to buy it either way in 99% of cases.also I'm not making a moral judgement on pirating.I'm just saying it's not stealing which it isn't.that's a legal fact. that's why it's called copyright infringement, not theft.
>>109044752>B-but he's probably pirating more than just subscription-only content!I don't give a fuck. I pirate anything and everything I can, and nothing you do or say will stop me.>Stealing is stealingIf I steal bread from a store, I'm costing that store money, because they paid for that bread (or the ingredients to make it) in order to resell it. It costs companies $0 when I download a copy of their data, because I wouldn't be paying them for it anyways. I'm not paying for a bunch of 1s and 0s. Cry harder.
>>109044752damndid they leak super sikrit cutting edge closed source model for real?neato
>>109056731Billy... but i am Slav.
>>109061469Malware in videos?
>>109044765begone mason, you will never be a god
>>109062257yuphttps://nvd.nist.gov/vuln/detail/cve-2024-49777
>>109062311are you showing that as your argument?
>>109044752I have no interest in modern propaganda made by people who hate me, even if I can get it for free, so I don't care for (((Hollywood))) or netflix, amazon, apple or whatever shows. When it comes to games it's proven that piracy is a net positive, but even if that was the case I absolutely encourage people to pirate Adobe software, and any game that uses Denuvo or engages in other anti-consumer practices.
>>109044752>3.4 TBFugg all my drives are almost full
>>109062322i'm a different anonyou were implaying that videos can't contain malware.my link proves you wrong
>>109062328i wish there was a real anthropic model leak
>>109062332to be clear, i am a completely different anon tookinda weak tho, i expected to see some previous wild attack examples, not *that*
>>109049180I mean you could take the two seconds to copy save file onto gugudrive or catbox or something. Paying for cheevos is not something I would admit.
>>109049180for me its automatic updatesfuck updating pirated games man
>>109054726>>109050811Capitalism and Communism are both Marxist frames of analysis. There is Wealth Creation and Wealth Destruction. That is all. Everything else is accounting, capital money supply, debt, product, interest. Most of it is taxonomic wordplay. From the Greek Taxis, and Nomos, or Arrangement of Law/Method/Way of Being.Sophists argued that nomos were manmade contrivances of convenience.Platonists argued nomos ought be Universal Standards, logically derived.What is Wealth, The word derives from, Will, Weal, Wish, literally a water well.Modern English might be "We All Thirst"Its opposite is Woe, or the state of being of all. One of its Daughters is World. An associate Word is Heath this helps derive some meaning. Meant Whole, Among Its daughters, Holy.The fruit of the tree of knowledge of Good and evil was sometimes transliterated as the fruit of the Tree of weal and woe.Further, Liberties exist apriori to claims.
It's not piracy, it's "acquiring datasets for AI model training"
>>109044752Why is this post here? That's literally a joke post, the joke is that Fable is an AI model and also a game
>>109044789it's great actually because lets me see all the meltdowns of paycucks like you and OP, for free even
>>109049605unrealistically wasteful. all you need is a small youtube mpv plugin for that.
>>109044752If you wouldn’t subscribe or otherwise license the software if you had to pay for it then there are no damages for using it without paying and thus no case
>>109044752>YOU WOULDN'T DOWNLOAD A GRANDMA!
