Google is ruining chromium, and therefore also: Edge, Opera, Brave and more
>>109045593Uninstall proprietary non-free Brave and install Abrowser/Librewolf and uBlock Origin.
>>109045593>using Google anything
>>109045612Mozilla only survives on Google"donations" Librewolf and other memes will soon be killed by Google's influence
>>109045621Brave is made by Mozilla CEO. Firefox can exist without Google's money because it is real open source project. Brave is depended from the Google code base and will die immediately when Google unplugs the cable. Firefox, Abrowser, Librewolf and all other browsers will exist without Mozilla, Brave retards or Google. Just stfu if you are that low iq retard. Holy shit you are pathetic.https://community.brave.com/t/brave-image-search-is-woke-bias/534929/3https://community.brave.com/t/two-book-pirating-sites-come-up-first-in-search-for-a-book/406913https://community.brave.com/t/acceptable-ads-alternate-lifestyle-support/64225https://community.brave.com/t/search-results-lean-left-by-default/522705/6https://community.brave.com/t/disturbing-image-on-ios-home-screen/589158/4Brave is proprietary https://pride.google/ Chromium spyware without reproducible binaries. Provided "source" is not related to the project itself and you can't compile Brave from that. If your Brave has brand including "Brave" text and logo, then your Brave is proprietary and spyware.
the moment firefox dies we can claim antitrust on anything goygle does and they dont want that
>>109045593a fork doesnt have to obey what chromium does. and Brqave has adblock built in that just fucking werks
>>109045725Brave also injects its own adware and phones home
>>109045737the ads are opt in and everything you use nowadays is phoning home bud.
>>109045593they're owned by the same handful of owners: blackrock, vandguard, blackstone, jp morgan...stop treating them like separate entities
>>109045593How the fuck can you even run Mv2 extensions past Chromium 138?>Chrome 149: The last version where internal flags allowed MV2 extensions to run despite deprecation. Fucking how? I have a bunch of old Mv2 extensions in my Chromium that I'd like to export data from but I can't because I can't run them.How the fuck is it done? What command line options?
>>109045723>the moment firefox dies we can claim antitrust on anything goygle does and they dont want thatGoogle doesn't give a fuck about the antitrust or the browsers anymore. They're all enchanted by the AI demon they're summoning and nothing else matters.
>>109045621>will soon be killednah
I don’t get it, why don’t they just update or fork ublock so it keeps working on chrome?
>>109045593Firefox is working on integrating an AdBlocker.Brave already has an integrated AdBlocker.Big nothingburger of news.
https://brave.com/blog/brave-shields-manifest-v3/you can still add the original MW2 ublock to brave. if there is word on that changing in the near future, go ahead and link to it
>>109047338forgot to add:you can enable OG ublock here:brave://settings/extensions/v2
>>109047371>>109047338As soon as the changes in op take effect, brave is fucked
>>109047289because they can't. chrome shuts off the APIs required to do the filtering that ublock does without tremendously affecting your browsing experience.
>>109045593Don't use Chrome
>>109047512Learn to read
>>109047541>Safari exists
>>109045593claude, modify the ublock code to bypass chrome's new blocks, make no mistakes.
>>109047558LOL
>>109047567Stealing revenue from websites is against my terms of service. You are reported to the authorities
>>109045743>the ads are opt in and everything you use nowadays is phoning home bud.
>>109045660>brave is woke>bbc.com/news/technology-26868536try again....
>>109045743Typical cuckold Brave user
google ai recommends using mozilla firefox to maintain ability to hide shitty elements from websites
>>109045621Google MUST pay Firefox or will be sued into hell by antimonopoly courts across the world. Primary by EU.
>>109047807I think they mostly want to maintain a prominent web browser company that can be recruited from, can test ideas independently and be an example for chrome team to learn from
>>109045593Good thing I'm not a chromium retard and use the cute fox browser.
>>109045593It'll be a sad day when uBlock Origin can no longer run on Ungoogled Chromium. Ah well, it was only my backup, Gecko browsers are still supreme.
>>109047768>google ai recommends using mozilla firefoxlolscreenshot?
>>109047988Ask it urselfits not that special since llms pull data from the internet and referencing websites, and all websites talk about the downsides of losing manifest 2.0
>>109047839Who pays Mozilla?
>>109045593Edge still supports manifest v2 and isn't going to remove it.I can see Microsoft maintaining it to fuck over Google and it has the resources to successfully fork it.
>>109048021chrome cuckolds who watch ads
>>109047807The only antimonopoly courts that matter are in the USA, because they can split those corpos apart. The EU at best only takes back some of the tax money they avoided with fines.Remember when the EU sued Microsoft for Internet Explorer being built in and default?Yeah... now Edge is even less removable...
>>109045660>Firefox can exist without Google's moneyLMAO. giga copium. 90% of Pozzillas funding comes straight from daddy Google.If you are seriously gonna argue that "open source community could just maintain it", then that same exact thing is true of the chromium codebase (which is also fully open source btw)
>>109045725why would google keep the underlying code for mv2 and not remove it wholesale?brave's ad blocker relies on that underlying code. so google can easily break brave.remember last time when google just refactored that code, brave's ad blocking was broken for a year.https://github.com/brave/brave-browser/issues/2351
>>109048269>If you are seriously gonna argue that "open source community could just maintain it"we have ai now, luddite
>>109047596Only a matter of time until the next jailbreak, safety jannies
>>109048056US courts almost killed Firefox last yearhttps://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/internet-policy/defending-an-open-web/>September 8, 2025>Last week, Judge Amit Mehta issued a ruling in the remedies proceedings of the U.S. v. Google LLC search case. Among the issues addressed, one key aspect that stood out for us was the court’s ruling on Google’s search agreements. >[...]>Crucially, the Court considered but ultimately rejected a proposed ban on search payments to small, independent browsers like Firefox. If the ban had been enforced, it would have made it harder for independent browsers to compete, effectively reducing competition in the browser market. >In his reasoning, Judge Mehta cited Mozilla’s testimony, recognizing that banning payments to smaller browsers would harm innovation, competition, and consumers, and would threaten the pro-competitive role of Mozilla in the ecosystem. Ensuring that Mozilla’s Gecko — the only independent browser engine left — can continue to compete with Google and Apple is vital for the future of the open web.>[...]
>>109047807I don't know where you guys all get this completely bogus unfounded take from.You realize Google was already deemed to be a monopoly in US courts, and yet absolutely zero consequences were levied for it? They could stop paying Mozilla at any time they wanted. Firefox is less than 1% of all browser share, even Edge has more users.
>>109048331Okay? And what's so special about the Firefox codebase that makes it oh so much easier to maintain with AI than the completely open source chromium codebase? Or are you going to continue to ignore the fact that every single line of chromium is open source?
does ublock lite not work well or something
>>109048031They also added extensions to mobile Edge
>>109048500it doesnt have as robust featuresblocks elements seems fucking annoying on it
>>109048474A key point to remember is that Google doesn’t pay Apple or Mozilla to make Google the default search engine in Safari and Firefox. They pay Apple and Mozilla per search that goes to Google from those browsers. Google then makes more money from ads on google.com than they paid Apple or Mozilla for acquiring that traffic.
Don't care still using Brave.
>>109045593The rise of transfox is near
Goddamn, I'm gonna have to drop vivaldi and use fucking firefox.
>>109045660>Brave is made by Mozilla CEOHe was CEO for like 5 minutes.
Why use software when you can use hardware?
uBlock lite works fine for me on most websites I barely watch YouTube though so I don’t know how well it works for that
>>109050720what if you want to hide youtube shorts and stupid irrelevant recommendationshow do you hide pinterest from google search results?does it work on hiding cookie notices even?
>>109047759typical tinfoil hat wearing, basement dwelling mongloid
>>109047289Browser extensions are based on Manifest V2 or V3. V2 was very permissive, an extension could get a lot of access to underlying browser capabilities and manipulate the user's experience a lot more.Manifest V3 screws down extension permissions much tighter. uBlock just isn't able to get the level of access it needs to work effectively any more when it's running as a V3 extension.
>>109045660Firefox is garbage that kills your ssd, i would rather use Orion if chromiums are kill, which will never happen.
>>109045593Google literally copied the apple-maintained webkit to make chrome. That was to make it “more portable” but made it less portable.They’re an advertising/data selling company, not a technology company.Apple has been literally carrying google technically for decades now.Everything google does is a cheap knock-off.
>>109045737Brave origin just checks for extension updates iirc, wish there was an option to completely silence it on startup but it's one hell of an improvement on vanilla Brave wish ships with Griffin and all sorts of shit that connects at startup by default
This is what they want to take from you
>>109050720It works, vids with ads will just load for a few seconds with a blackscreen instead of you getting 5-15+ sec unskippable ads
>>109048524>Google then makes more money from ads on google.com than they paid Apple or Mozilla for acquiring that traffic.>source: vibesWe know that's true in Apple's case, where there are no adblockers and apple users are famous for being high-spending ad-clickers. However we have no evidence at all that the average Firefox user would generate anywhere near the amount of revenue required to justify a $400 million annual payment.
>>109045593not my problem
>>109045593Don't care, I'm still using trannyfox.
>>109045593Oh no, Google is going to stop my ad-blocke-https://github.com/irbis-sh/zen-desktoplmao wtf is lil timmy gon do?
>>109055360HOLY
Just vibe code your own browser
>>109055360How well does that work?
>>109055380Tested it on base firefox and it kicks google's mozillas teeth in. Didn't see any ads at all, even on Youtube. Trackers were blocked.
>>109055360blocking ads was never the problemuo has the filter lists that are crucial to make websites functional
>>109055392>google's mozillasGoogle and Mozillas*
serious question: why do people insist on using chromium browsers when firefox is right there? I don't think i've ever encountered a site that didn't on firefox so that can't be the reason.I get that normies just use chrome because it's what everyone uses, but i'm talking about people who know better but still use chromium based shit.
>>109055436*didn't work
>>109055436chrome has translate page feature thats importantconvenient password and payment info storage across devicesadblocking has always worked just fine until the future update that blocks manifest 2people must've imagined some sort of privacy reason to move over from chrome, but then they trust a corporation with 0.1% of googles size to be secure somehow.
>>109055436There's nothing really wrong with Chromium in of itself. Brave and Helium are both good browsers on-par with FF browsers like Waterfox and Librewolf. >>109055451Some FF-based browsers, if not FF itself also have page translation features. LibreWolf in particular ships with an entirely local-translation feature.The "translate page" feature you use in default Chromium that uses Google obviously sends that traffic to Google, which why the hell would you want to do that when there are alternatives?>convenient password and payment info storage across devicesFirefox has this too, but self-hosting your own service for this is the most secure way of doing it.
>>109055392mozilla exists because google funds them. loop hole in the monopoly
>>109045593Good. Blocking ads is theft.
>>109055527get off 4chan Linus
>>109045593Brave and Edge are still supporting ublock. Why would that change now? They should be able to have their own patches of their chromium forks no?
>all
>>109055436I migrated FROM firetrash, why would I ever go back?
>>109051153Wasn't webkit literally built of KDE's konqueror lmao? They're both just working off KDE's work.None of them is a technology company. Apple is a fashion brand and Google is an ad company.
I tried turning UO off and using the zen thing >>109055360Not having UO is terrible for website usability. Toms hardware fires up javascript to endlessly refresh the page and ask to turn adblock off, you can block javascript in chrome settings but its auto blocked by uo defaultsmany websites get the shit waste of space elements back that I clean up with UO, theres large white box where the ad would be instead of it being removed by the uoGoogle AI stops responding to inquiries unless I refresh the page which never happen without zen.Youtube gets back to terrible UI because of stuff UO usually filters: removing shorts, make it 5 videos in a row instead of 3, hide shorts, removing video end screens, remove shorts from search.
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>>109054657helium relying on some other chromium fork for mv2 does not spark confidence.https://github.com/imputnet/helium/issues/1746#issuecomment-4671887089
>>109051153>Google literally copied the apple-maintained webkit to make chrome.wrong, chrome initially used webkit as-is for years. google only forked webkit later.https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/04/google-going-its-own-way-forking-webkit-rendering-engine/>Google announced today that it is forking the WebKit rendering engine on which its Chrome browser is based. The company is naming its new engine “Blink.”>The WebKit project was started by Apple in 2001, itself a fork of a rendering engine called KHTML. The project includes a core rendering engine for handling HTML and CSS (WebCore), a JavaScript engine (JavaScriptCore), and a high-level API for embedding it into browsers (WebKit).>Though known widely as “WebKit,” Google Chrome has used only WebCore since its launch in late 2008. Apple’s Safari originally used the WebKit wrapper and now uses its successor, WebKit2. Many other browsers use varying amounts of the WebKit project, including the Symbian S60 browser, the BlackBerry browser, the webOS browser, and the Android browser.>Until now, Google has rigorously tracked the WebKit project, both integrating patches made by other WebKit developers and pushing its own changes made during the course of Chrome’s development back upstream.>Linus Upson, vice president of Engineering at Google, and Alex Komoroske, product manager on the Open Web Platform team, told us that the costs of sharing code now outweighed the advantages. There is considerable complexity in WebCore that is there to support WebKit2 features that Google does not want or use.
>>109045593haven't had this issue on firefox
>>109057638The program can be improved. Zen is cooler to me since it reminds me of a pi-hole. But really, everyone should just be using a pi-hole.
All ublock had to do was not allow blocking google's AI slop and they would have been able to continue to exist
>>109045593i use unjewed chromium with both jewblockorigin and jewmatrix.
>>109059081You can actually run Pi-Hole from a docker container on your PC. Makes Zen kind of pointless.
Just use helium browser
>>109059098>>109059177
>>109055436Chromium is a lot cleaner and feels snappier and more stable. Every website is optimized for Chromium. Firefox feels clunky in comparison. It was nice in like 2005 when IE was the alternative, but there's a good reason why Chromium took over.
>>109045593Chromium was fucked the second Google conceived it.People who use it are like those dumb whores who always go back to their abusive husbands.
>>109047293>Firefox is working on integrating an AdBlocker.yeah it's the Brave ad blockerhttps://shivankaul.com/blog/firefox-bundles-adblock-rust
The Internet is ad supported. Anyone using adblockers are thieves. Glad Google is finally getting rid of this loop hole.
>>109055436>I don't think i've ever encountered a site that didn't on firefoxtry a video call on Teams web with firefox
>>109048269firefox is unlikely to get its support pulled by google, even if they continue to maintain their own environment. google pays firefox solely to keep google as the default search engine in firefox. they want "google" to become synonymous with the web. as long as 50% of the population doesn't even know you can install ANY 3rd party search engine in firefox's settings, then the money spent on controlled opposition is well-worth it. google has moved past ads as a primary revenue source: they want to own the entire online environment so they make money from each and every interaction.
>>109059856this guy fucks
