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Think for yourself. Do not blindly trust advice given here.

>A /pcbg/ for every use case and budget!

>Price tracking
RAM: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ram/ram-price-index-2026-lowest-price-on-ddr5-and-ddr4-memory-of-all-capacities
SSD: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ssds/ssd-price-tracking-2026-lowest-price-on-every-m-2-ssd
GPU: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/lowest-gpu-prices-tracking

>GPU hierarchy 2026
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

>Other helpful Links
Mobomaps: https://mobomaps.com/
A PC build guide: https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Build_a_PC
German autism: https://www.igorslab.de/en/
Alternate to pcpartpicker: https://pangoly.com/en/pc-builder

My computer has an issue I had a couple power surges and had to get a replacement PSU because my old one got killed. Now however I have to hold the power button just to turn my computer on, and when i leave it off overnight for too long It won't turn on at all. I have to wait like 5-10 minutes of holding the power button hoping that it will actually start the LEDs of my usb peripherals flash on and then off which means it's trying to start up but can't until it eventually manages to which afterward it works fine until I shut it off. What's going on? is this a motherboard issue?

>>109050055
Sometimes if i get up early enough to turn it on though i can get it to turn on after about 5 seconds of holding, rather than the several minutes otherwise*

>>109050055
either a motherboard issue, or your case circuitry is buggered. Its probably easier to buy a new case and try that first, pick one you like, so if its the motherboard instead, at least you'll be able to put your new mobo in a nicer tower.

Also;
>buying a shit-tier PSU that dies
what a poorfag/noob mistake lmao

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im so fucking confused trying to connect this 20pin front panel cable (came with corsair 4000d frame case), it has 1 blocked out hole, and from what i can tell it wont fit into my motherboard pins no matter which way i turn it??? am i retarded or wtf

>>109050010
When do the ssd and gc's prices return to normal?

>>109050142
find the usb header.

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Never using Nvidia GPUs again their drivers suck on Windows & Linux

>>109050142
yes, you are indeed retarded. that is the wrong connector. please box everything up and send it to me at PO BOX 42069. rtfm, anon... rtfm.

>>109050157
>>109050175
oh I looked right side of the board snd found it sorry guys :(

And the Intel shill wants people to "tune" their CPUs when they can't even plug in the right cable.

>>109050142
you need a usb 3.0 header, dumbass
see the black connector next to the 4pin fan header? it's like that but bigger and with the notch

if you only have a type-E connector you need an adapter

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>>109050166
Amen
Top left Nvidia
Top right AMD
Bottom Intel

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>>109050274

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are the 9070xt waterblocks worth picking up and installing? I have a Sapphire nitro+ model and I feel like it could run better than the fans

>>109050322
no

>>109050322
The cards cap out at 400w. Water will make it cooler but not really faster.

>>109050353
and optimal wattage is somewhere closer to 9070, its just oc'd beyond it

>>109050359
both cpus and gpus are all "overclocked" above the efficiency line
anyone that would actually want to preserve their hardware should underclock whatever they buy by like 10% and could inject a massive undervolt with it, specially with a cpu

>finally recommending lancool 217
>finally recommending actually good monitors and not mini-led/banding WOLED garbage
>finally ditching worthless reddit consoomer gpus like the 5080/5090
Uhhh based??

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gaming looks like THAT?

>>109050598
I remember the dirty looking colors on my pixel 2 xl back in the day
I can't believe modern LG woleds still have the same problem, 8 years later

>>109050637
>ペロペロペロ

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Hey /pcbg/, got a quick weird question, hoping someone can help. Finished my new build not too long ago, everything seems to be working great, but I have a little mystery. In my device manager under "other devices", I seem to have a missing driver. All it says it is is "Universal Serial Bus (USB) controller". I tried letting windows 10 search for it, it doesnt find anything. My specs are

9800x3d
RTX 5090
Asrock x870e Taichi
6x Corsair LX120 fans and 1x LX140 fan on one of their controllers
TURZX 8.8in screen
Lian-Li Edge 1300 PSU
2x48gb Corsair Vengeance ram
MSI MAD Coreliquid I360 AIO cooler

When I look at the Hardware IDs under the entries properties, this is what it shows me:

PCI\VEN_1B21&DEV_2425&SUBSYS_24251B21&REV_01
PCI\VEN_1B21&DEV_2425&SUBSYS_24251B21
PCI\VEN_1B21&DEV_2425&CC_0C0340
PCI\VEN_1B21&DEV_2425&CC_0C03

1/2

>>109050697
*4090 not 5090 my bad

1/2

My current running theory is it could be the built in USB "hub" on the PSU. That and the TURZX screen are all thats connected to the internal USB 2.0 connectors on the motherboard, and running into that is the corsair hub for the fans. One other theory is maybe its the USB 4.0 ports on the motherboard maybe? I dont know, ive connected flash drives/external hard drives into all the external ports on this thing just to make sure they register whatevers connected to them, and they do. This little missing driver is triggering my OCD like a motherfucker. I asked on gay ass reddit and didnt get any sort of an answer, though one person on there said they had the same missing driver, but that went nowhere after that.

Ive attached a screenshot (ignore the other 2 missing drivers, I know what they are, ones from my external hard drive I have hooked up, that happened on my last computer too, and I remember fixing it with some driver from WD, I just havent been assed to look for it again, especially since the external works just fine without it. The other one is the onboard graphics driver for the 9800 x3d. I uninstalled that because ive read having both AMD AND Nvidias graphics drivers on the same system can cause issues. Not sure if thats true, but I just uninstalled AMDs shit just in case).

Any ideas?

>>109050703
>>109050697
Try installing any USB4 drivers from Asrock

> 2x16GB or 2x24GB
Fuck off cunt, I've only got so many kidneys to sell

>>109050733
2 x16 because it comes for free in that microcenter bundle

>>109050598
>finally recommending lancool 217
It's good but unfortunately they removed the lancool 207 which should always be included due to being one of the best cases and one of the cheapest as well.

>>109050735
What's a microcenter? Is that an indian thing?

>>109050746
It's a store that sells a bundle with a 7800x3d, 32gb RAM and a motherboard for $600.

>>109050703
go to steam, install Driver Booster, it'll probably find something you need.

>>109050733
real niggas roll with 1x8gb and 1xdummy stick

>>109050746
your confusing micropenis with microcenter

Phewww.
Just finished a long gaming sess on my 5080. Completely crushed the game, no problem at all even with raytracing at 4K. Looks great.
Don't even think it broke line 50C.

You guys play anything?

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Across the past 10 year outside of a very few months when Ampere was selling at msrp the blackwell lineup ended up being the best moment to upgrade during 2025, If you bought or upgrade you literally made it like a bandit especially when DLSS 5.0 comes out

>>109050958
5070 is only like 100€ more expensive than it would be save for the memory crisis

>>109050697
>asrock with x3d
Does that still have issues?
Also how much was this build?

>>109050919
What game?
>You guys play anything?
4chan is my favorite game.

>>109050958
dlss versions after 4.0 don't matter
its a solved problem

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>>109051043

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>>109050958
5070 isn't that inflated at least.

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Hey /pcbg/ I likely have an issue I need your expertise in.
Tonight I turned on my PC (I'll post the specs down below) and its ethernet port wasn't working. I couldn't get it to connect to my modem at all. I changed the cable thinking it was that and nothing. I went on to the check the BIOS utility and I noticed that the MOBO was marking the 3.3V rail as outputting 4V. Not 3.4V, 4V.

Interestingly, though, aside from the ethernet issue, there were no problems on the PC. Everything ran fine, I even played a game completely fine.

First of all, should I be worried here? That's a huge disparity from expected to actual.
If so, what's likely failing here, the PSU or the mobo? Maybe something else?

Specs:
MOBO: ASUS TUF B450M
CPU: Ryzen 7 3700X
RAM: 4x 8GB (I can't remember the brand now)
GPU: Radeon 6600
PSU: EVGA 750W Gold

If you need more specifics or something let me know, any help or stuff would be appreciated.

>>109051080
my mobo once had the port stop working
it didnt blink orange or green
had to ask the store to send me a new mobo before I could dissassemble my pc for the return

>>109050958
Nah, it was when the 40 supers released, 4070ti Super and 4080 super were a good deal and so was the 4090 when it was at MSRP. Blackwell is just cope for retards that waited too long hoping for better times, except the 5090 but that's been monopolized by AI retards sadly.

>>109050958
>DLSS 5.0
you mean the instagram filter

is the Gigabyte X870 Aorus Elite a good board?

>>109051247
I dont have much faith it gigabytes software
hardware wise its likely fine

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xpcjH3

Upgrading my CPU from a first generation R5-1600AF and my GPU from an RX 480 8GB. I already have a single 2x8GB kit of DDR4 2400MHz. I found an identical kit on eBay for $60. Any red flags? Would I suffer an major issues using this new 5800X3D on an older chipset or with slower RAM? Googled around and read that the slower RAM isn't much of an issue for 3D chipsets and the only thing I suffer from using an older motherboard is being stuck on PCIe 3.0 which doesn't matter overall.

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you guys told me am4 was good...

>>109051492
Yeah...if you're a fucking third worlder lmao. If you have the money then you simply buy the best. You understand that anyone can access these forums right?

>>109051518
we need country flags here asap

>>109051492
to be fair the 9850X3D gaps everything.

Should I upgrade my 3080 10gb to a 9070xt 16gb? 5800x3d, 1440 ultrawide. Just looking to futureproof as I've notice 10gb vram is not enough sometimes.

https://www.platinummicro.com/xfx-swift-amd-radeon-rx-9070xt-triple-fan-gaming-edition-with-16gb-gddr6-hdmi-3xdp-amd-rdna-4-rx-97tswf3ba/

>>109051692
just wait for 60xx or nvidia supers

>>109051610
My future 10800x3d will make it look like a bitch

>>109051692
Unironically wait, the 9070xt is going down in price and AMD partners have confirmed that RDNA5 is coming out next year.

>>109051692
Nvidia or wait at least another gen so you're not cucked after next gen consoles

>>109051711
>>109051735
>>109051739
>wait
would 5800x3d be bottlenecking by then?

>>109051776
sure, someone can code a game that massively demands cpu resources + ddr4 reduces fps somewhat
most games wont be horribly impacted, they typically try to make games gpu bound in the usual dlss scenario

>>109051776
It can already bottleneck high end cards
That's why framegen is so nice :)

>>109051726
TRVKE

>>109051776
it really only bottlenecks the 5090, but so does everything that isn't a Zen4/5 X3D.
its why people recommended the 14600K for DDR4 systems when the 5800X3D became unavailable because even though there is a 10% performance loss its still within that block of performance that the 5800X3D and all of Intel's CPUs fall under.

https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-to-launch-core-200-raptor-lake-next-in-2027-for-lga-1700-socket
14700k refresh and some interesting new specs
remains to be seen if it's new chips or binned old chips

>>109051776
only if you play games at 720p, this general is being brigaded by a schizophrenic psychopath you should be aware of when asking about amd products
hopefully he kills himself soon enough

>>109051461
looks fine

>>109051080
b450 motherboards had terrible vrms for the most part so I guess that's why voltages are whack
double check the voltages with hwinfo, there's no fix to it despite replacing it tho

>>109050697
probably the stuff in the chipset that allows for pcie bifurcation and whatnot, stuff that windows 10 wouldn't understand

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>>109050142
You ned to look for one of these on your motherboard - if it doens't have one of these sockets you might try a PCIe-to-usb3 adaptor card, something like this https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/358571923315?chn=ps&_ul=GB&_trkparms=ispr%3D1&amdata=enc%3A1uz5cfI4AQBqnlsKOm2HN4A18&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=710-173151-921626-2&mkcid=2&mkscid=101&itemid=358571923315&targetid=2448983077365&device=c&mktype=pla&googleloc=9044939&poi=&campaignid=21697391927&mkgroupid=188177101357&rlsatarget=aud-1641271186540:pla-2448983077365&abcId=10027104&merchantid=5299820021&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=21697391927&gbraid=0AAAAAD_Lr1foW7j2sKNcCyh3TO2e1HSC_&gclid=Cj0KCQjwornRBhCrARIsAON5exEMIgHFh81XgpRquWrfrFuJRefbg4CNz1abl1n8uLGsi_3SuHY7bbYaAiSCEALw_wcB

>>109052417
nice fucking link retard

I need some upgrade advice. My current build is https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/Dv8Cdq
I've been on AM4 since 2018 and I think it might be time to upgrade after recently getting a 9070xt and getting bottlenecked in every single game.
The 270K Plus is looking really attractive, but I'm not sure if its better to try and grab a 5800X3D and keep waiting a bit longer instead. I run Gentoo so I'm a bit inclined to wait for new cpus with APX instructions to come out.

>>109050010
>Asus AP201
How workable is this for 5080 + fullsize PSU + top and bottom 360mm radiator?

>>109052493
due to the price of ram, your only option is the 5800X3D or waiting.
don't get psyop'd into the 270K plus.

I wish Nvidia had the software stack of AMD, Advanced Shader Delivery is just better.

>>109052667
To give credit where credit is due Nvidia is optimized straight out of the box. You do steel nomad on a 4080 super and you get an immediate 6700-7000 points. You do the same on AMD 7900XTX or 9070XT and you have to OC and UV to get the same score and watts.

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thinking about going back to 1080p and getting this and building a comfy itx build to go with it.
sick of needing to have the best hardware every generation to run all the latest games properly.

>>109052727
>asus xg259QWPG
>24.5" 1080p 540hz
that's just the smaller version of the PG27AQWP-W isnt it? Nice to see 24" 1080p still being relevant but knowing ASUS you'll have to wait for it till it shadow drops one day.

>>109050010
Why in the world is pc parts price is STILL INCREASING?!!!!

Imagine they release the 5080 super with 24gb of vram but to compensate for said vram they reduce the speed down to gddr6

Is this really the end of personal pc?

>>109052743
I believe so and hopefully it isn't too expensive, if asus was smart they would know pricing it above budget 1440p oleds which are starting to get pretty cheap now would be retarded.

>>109052749
cause the newest AI models became sooooo powerful. You want to see it? No, they are too dangerous for the public and now invest a few more billions pretty please.

>>109052786
the PG27AQWP-W is here right now 1050 €. I'd assume it starts at 700 € similar to the Pulsar IPS monitors but those are now 550 € here after only half a year. I'd nearly suspect that a 1080p OLED may have higher demand however even though it's still pretty niche.

>>109050703
Do you have USB-C on your GPU?

>>109052765
the memory manufacturers opted to not bother manufacturing 3gb GDDR6 chips

>>109052765
they already tried that scam with the 4080 12gb but it didn't fly

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>>109050010
>no i9 sku
>still hybrid cores
raptorlake next sucks...

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>>109050010
lol that new phanteks CES case also put a fan at the back of the motherboard and it works to lower temps and direct hot air out. Before they added it all the components were cooking

fans are so fucking awesome

>>109053159
that gpu shroud spits in the face of flow through gpu coolers

is 5080 super really happening

>>109053184
i hope not

>>109053184
Debaurer says it's not happening and I believe him more than any leaker he is the CEO of thermal grizzly and those wireview shits

>>109053159
that's one weird air fryer

>want to upgrade server pc
>but my gaming pc is a 3800x and 2070 super, so I should probably upgrade that first
>stuck in a loop of upgrading neither
thank you for reading my blog post

Reminder that the Supers were leaknounced before the memory crisis but somehow it got memoryholed.

>>109053184
If it does it'll be 2k+ to actually get so it won't matter anyway

5080 is the most disappointing GPU in existence and a 5080 super wont make it better

>finally replace mobo/cpu/ram because I was getting weird graphics driver timeouts and other mobo weirdness (m2_2 would randomly disappear)
>new shit crashes constantly with weird memory management or driver errors
FUCK it was my gpu wasn't it

>>109050697
https://pcilookup.com/?ven=1B21&dev=&action=submit
It's some asmedia piece of shit, sata expander or usb-c controller or something

>>109053159
If they deliver on the price I will buy EX5 just because it looks cool.

>>109053610
Might also be the PSU.
You would have to plug your GPU into completely different system to know for sure.

>>109053707
psu was replaced last year
Only old parts are gpu and 2 ssds

>>109053714
And you didn't think it might be the fault of the SSD? Because you clearly had issues with m.2 dropping out.

>>109053726
The drive itself tested fine in another pc and it was my secondary drive not the os one. On my old mobo m2_2 was chipset pcie lanes so I would suspect the chipset way before the drive

>>109053749
How often do you get those errors?
Did you do completely fresh install of the OS?

>>109053777
i built it on Thursday, it's been at least 8, maybe 10 crashes since then. Installing windows was a bitch. Yes, fresh install.
Memtest86 was clean.

>>109053895
I would try using the PC with iGPU only just to see if anything changes. Because I guess you don't have old GPU laying around.
Troubleshooting PCs is a pain in the ass.
It can be caused by almost everything.

>>109053919
I have a gtx 780 laying around LOL

>>109053984
>My old friend. I ask for your help once again.
Desperate times call for desperate measures.
I would give it a try. It's also a decent load on the PSU.

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>>109054026
>memtest86 clean
meanwhile, picrel
sigh

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my 1tb lexar sata ssd just died suddenly

>not showing up in bios
>swapped cables, tried different slots, nothing
What do I do now?

>>109054076
warranty

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>>109054049

>>109054094
the last time this happened to me, it looked like it was the ram but it ended up being the IMC on my first-gen ryzen. Hoping I don't have to rma this 9800x3d

>>109050010
what is the fan in pic related supposed to achieve?

>>109054109
DDR5 is finicky, a single speck of dust in DIMM slot and the stability goes to shit.
What kind of RAM speeds are you running at the moment? 2 or 4 DIMMs?

>>109053554
I imagine they will up the power so it matches the 4090

>>109054468
>378mm2
>256bit
YWNBA high-end GPU

>>109054484
does that matter? there's plenty of nvidiadrones who bought the 5070 because Jensen said that it was the equivalent to the 4090

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>>109054168
>it's over
expo profile 1 (6000mt)
Corsair memory, I got the microcenter shitbox bundle lol

>>109053554
>>109054468
>>109054484
>>109054496
The 5080 super is just an rtx 4500 with the vram of an rtx 4000.

>>109054605
That's a lot of errors, fuck.
Have you tried removing them from the motherboard cleaning the contacts on the DIMMs and reseating them?
You installed them in slots 2 and 4, right?

>>109052727
I would only go back to 1080 to go back to TN.

>>109054677
when this memtest run finishes I'll yank them and hit the slots with compressed air
yeah slots 2 and 4

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autism question but does it make a huge difference what back panel USB slots I use? For example I want to connect mouse and gamepad to USB-A slots and keyboard to the USB-C slot of the second chipset that is connected to the first via PCIe4.0 x4 lanes and then connected to the processor using PCIe4.0 x4.

>>109054949
got any alcohol?

>>109054949
Can you show screenshot from zentimings as well?

>>109054973
You want the mouse and keyboard connected to the hub that's connected to the cpu instead of chipset. As for which is which you use device manager or hwinfo64 to figure it out the exact device id location.

>>109053308
Just upgrade both at the same time retard.

>>109055741
the controller that goes directly to the CPU in this case is C-only. I'd need to get a different cable then for my mouse. I wanted to connect my DAC there though.

>>109055785
For the lowest dpc latency you want it on your CPU and you use something like affinity interrupt tool to give each device its own CPU core to interrupt on instead of spamming it on the first core.

>>109055975
this is why I wanted the DAC on the controller directly to the CPU without anything to prevent sound errors though I could connect the mouse there as well if I get another cable. Mouse, keyboard and gamepad run all at 1k polling rate but I wouldnt use keyboard and gamepad at the same time so the same controller should be fine. There is one USB A port that directly connects to the CPU for bios updating that I could use. The ports next to the LAN I prefer not to touch either.

Best pc for planning out swinger parties

>>109056078
amd radeon

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give me a good reason why i shouldn't build my next games pc in a rack mount case

>>109056181
You don't have the balls to do that.

>>109056187
bitch i will do it

i can't think of a single reason why a desktop tower thing with a bisexual lights window is preferable

>>109056133
Oh, I have one of those. Is your sister 18 and cute?

>>109050010
That's my case. I don't understand why they did that.

>>109056187
>>109056181
i would put it in a flight case like this

>>109056181
you'd have to cut it to install fans and cutting metal is a nightmare, I have 2 of those that I bought for my media server and my file server and I didn't get into cutting it yet because it's dreadful.

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Neat, EXPO ULL UEFI updates are rolling out.
Can't wait to see real testing.

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>>109056204
FUCK. i forgot the asshole

>>109056207
it has fan holes in the back, and it sucks air through the front. its designed to run hot balls server loads 24/7. why the fuck would i need to put fans on the side of it?

>>109056181
No room for a tall CPU cooler or even some GPUs in a 4u.
Have to get a 5U but they are pretty expensive.
If your desire is really just for a low brow case there is always the AX700 non TG version

>>109055002
>>109055128
found the culprit, one of the two sticks is bad
Yanked it and all is well with the world. RMA time!

>>109056224
because otherwise it's going to have fans blasting 3000 rpm and hardware sitting at 70c like server hardware is meant to run at

>>109056233
Good luck Anon.
You already "won" sub 1% DOA lottery.

>>109056251
>sub 1% DOA lottery
It wouldn't surprise me if it was a lot worse then that
Think about how many people buy RAM and never turn in EXPO

>>109056228
>gpus require a 5u case
is that true? it doesn't seem like its true. interesting if true, but does not seem. also false, possibly

Have any of those retro gamer guys benched a 16 core Opteron? I got pretty close to buying a 12 core one, a bit before Ryzen 1 was released (which was the obvious choice when it came out).

>>109056239
>fans blasting 3000 rpm
its true that servers are like this and that's a fair point but im not sure if its necessary or not because the front-to-back cooling is probably the best way to do cooling and so why would i need faster fan holes

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>>109056239
People overestimate cooling
These are crappy thermalright fans running at 1000rpm
I can't make the CPUs go above 50c under any real loads

>>109056267
servers aren't supposed to be close to humans.

This means that network engineers aren't humans.

>>109056267
I bought 4u servers like those for my homelab stuff and I'll install 3x140mm fans at the front of the case because I want the hardware in it to last 15 years and the box to be near silent
but I am thinking about HDD temperatures here mostly, not cpu

>>109056256
GPUs are extra wide nowadays and also need room for power connectors
If it's like a 5060 or 9060, it's probably fine since there are coolers small enough but anything north if that and nearly all the coolers are too large.

>>109056293
the dicks in this computer should be little solid state chips. nas would be a separate rig

>>109056255
Maybe, but did your system run just fine without EXPO?

>>109056293
>but I am thinking about HDD temperatures here mostly, not cpu
HDDs need a fly's fart in terms of airflow.
The airflow has to exist but it really isn't much

>>109056304
they are wide, so you need more slots or some width or whatever. the U refers to the tallness. it shouldn't need to increase unless the cards are significantly taller and weird and don't fit in computer cases

what the fuck do AI gpu server farms use for rack mount gpu cases?

Is there an actual science behind capping 3fps below the refresh rate for gsync to work well or is it just a random number thrown there? Or is it dependent on the monitor itself being able to handle it?
I have a 360hz monitor and I'll be honest, I don't think I ever play anything that reaches those FPS except old games. I have a 4070 super and except for multiplayer games I don't play such as marvel rivals I don't think I get 200fps on almost anything (well, maybe I can get games like Falcom garbage to play at higher framerates but that's about it). If something, I'll be using 360hz sometimes with RetroArch and that CRT simulation bullshit, which doesn't work well with FPS caps.
However I'm checking that people are just throwing out sometimes -3fps, sometimes -24fps, I don't fucking know what the cap is supposed to be or if it's some placebo bullshit that is already handled automagically but some people are stuck in the past, like hundreds of other tweaks out there. What is optimal and not bullshit here?

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>>109056362
I was referring to the width of the cards from the perspective of looking at the PCI bracket on a normal upright case.
On a server case you would need a 5u to accommodate most higher end cards

Pic related is an extreme example but you get the idea

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>>109056387
yea that's pretty wild. pc build would obviously start with the GPU and work backwards in terms of requirements regardless

>>109056395
its too bad nobody does lan parties anymore because that shit is BAD ASS

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>>109056371
They use 4U cases but the cards themselves are much smaller but require much more airflow.
That's assuming they use PCIe cards.
Most servers are SXM2 which are all kinds of proprietary fun

>>109056383
You simply cap the framerate below the max refresh rate to avoid screen tearing. Even with VRR if you go above max refresh rate of your display you will see tearing.
But another reason to cap framerate is to avoid CPU or GPU hitting 100%. Mostly to avoid additional stuttering and input lag.
nV reflex tries to do just that but for GPU alone.

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>>109056387
nvidia 5090 works in a 4u case i think?

would installing agilitysdk on my computer make directx12 games run better? or that is just for developers?

>>109056383
GSync will refresh when a new frame is available. It obviously cannot refresh faster than the max refresh rate, so if the frame rate is above the max refresh rate you end up generating frames that don't get displayed.
You don't need to cap the FPS.

>>109056434
If you can't tell they are water cooling those GPUs.

>>109056454
sounds fine to me. the last time i told a woman that my computer case is not water cooled, she immediately stopped having sex with me

>>109056208
My board hasn't got the update yet but it looks promising

I want to buy a USB to 3.5mm adapter since I use a USB switch to switch my keyboard and mouse between my work PC and desktop. Does anyone know
>Do those adapters need a lot of power? My USB switch is unpowered
> Do the adapters add a lot of lag? I use my desktop for playing videogames so it would defeat the purpose if they add too much lag.

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pre-built pc with a 5080 for reference

>>109056443
If the game uses it then yes. For example Horizon & Crimson Desert uses AgilitySDK. By updating it you get improvements to directstorage and DX12 stuff. But only if your OS or the game is out of date because that's the whole point of AgilitySDK it allows devs to ship the latest stuff instead of making users update around it.

>>109056492
I don't know if I even want to update UEFI because everything is working just fine and I've manually tweaked the RAM already.
Because if I understand correctly it only changes, tREFI, tRRDS and tRDRD. So it will impact some other timings like tFAW as a result.

>>109056548
I dunno about all that, all I know that FGR/Mixed is now enforced over Normal Mode to protect against some security exploit.

hey /pcbg/ what (free) benchmark do you think stresses the overall systems all at once the most? I want to see what peak power draw looks like on my system.

>>109056589
Furmark Vulkan, Prime95 Small FFT, TM5 extreme config

All three at same time, stresses GPU/CPU/RAM. No other real life load will be as stressful as this.

>>109056584
I don't remember if I even touched the memory refresh mode.
But mixed was better than FGR only if I remember correctly.

Budget is $400. Wanna upgrade from 1080p to 4K. Will primarily work on it but want to added benefit of CRT shader emulation. No interest on modern gaming on the PC (I have consoles for that). Which one?

>>109056676
crt shader emulation is designed for 360hz+ oleds

>>109056684
So I was lied to. I'm stuck with raw pixels forever?

>>109056521
>4100 with a 5080
shit, that's actually a pretty good deal in this economy.

>>109056724
pulsar lcd monitors are better for image clarity if you care about that
they're expensive

>>109056526
if I throw the newest D3D12Core.dll file I downloaded on the game's folder, could something bad happen?

>>109056750
Yes, No, Maybe. Depends on the game and hardware. Don't reply with those either because I'm not your debugger.

>>109056659
For dual rank memory normal mode is better but if it's single rank mixed is better

>>109056726
Really? Isn't that overpriced?

>>109056728
I'm not exactly an enthusiast here (more work by day and game only sometimes at night). So I can't just pick any 4K monitor (from a reputable brand) and be done with it?

>>109056750
Worst case scenario the game throws a error and you have to repair the files through steam.

>>109056521
>i9
>for gaming

>>109056846
you can pick a 1440p pulsar, it'll look fine on work and games and wont burn in. class leading clarity that works with vrr (on nvidia)
theres cheap 4k ips that has no special features like m27up

>>109056846
Don't listen to the Pulsar retard. It sounds like you aren't a competitive gamer or anything and just wanna relax playing single player shit after work. QD-OLED 1440p 27 inch will give you way better colors and image quality then shitty slop IPS. That Pulsar shit is for high refresh rate fps gaming.

>>109056937
Everyone will notice a clarity improvement whenever theres movement on the screen, on desktop, low paced games, and low 60 fps games.
you generally dont rec oled for work

>>109056951
The clarity comes from pixel response and OLED is unbeat in that department. The best lcd is 1ms. The shittiest OLED is 0.3ms or 66% faster.

>>109056958
go ask an llm about image clarity and bfi

>>109056963
It takes a 480hz lcd to match a 240hz OLED and most budget OLEDs are starting at 280hz now.

>>109056975
Did you ask google AI yet

>>109056980
Don't need to literally walk into your local BrandsmartUSA if you're not third world

>>109056820
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4kgHGk
well ok it's about $500 over, but that's a lot smaller of a gap than it should be. The market is fucked rn.

When is pulsar coming for 4k?

>>109056937
>OLED
Oled are born for the trashcan: they all are rotting from the day you get them, to an extreme degree.

asian crap.

avoid.

>>109057068
Its hard to make these advanced backlight techniques work on higher res

the best clarity option on 4k will be an upcoming 360hz qd oled, and using 50xx multi frame gen to reach high fps

the nigga that makes guides on one of the leak news websites was complaining about how 4k 90fps games look "bad" and "not smooth and clear" compared to 200 fps 4k
these are the subhumans publishing on regurgitating tweets tech websites these days

>>109057096
what are you confused about?
200 > 90

>>109057117
60 fps is all smoothness you'd need for single player games.

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>>109057127
Id say 100-120 is a good point for tolerable gameplay, and its great base for frame gen

>>109057096
>mad because someone has higher standards than him
Umm, chill out?

>>109057131
it's UE5 too, the other devs are just bad, only kojima and a few other devs actually know how to make games these days

>>109057131
this is more or less the same specs as fortnite

>>109050010
I want a Razer Chroma ARGB controller because I'm on Linux and love OpenRazer and have not been enjoying OpenRGB, which is the only solution I can find that supports my Asus motherboard's ARGB headers. But I just found out they're discontinued and can't find them anywhere. It's over

>>109057131
5600X kings still reign supreme

>>109057131
>A580
jeeeze, it doesn't need much at all, huh

>>109057166
I've been telling people for years that the UE5 thing is just a cope for devs getting shittier and shittier.

>>109057131
>Minimum and recommended spec don't mention target frame-rate and resolution.
Red flag.

>>109057284
The trailer looks fine and unreal 5 has had its perf patches

>using basic win11 version
>asks for login each time pc wakes up from sleep
>if you're in local acc the option to disable it isnt even visible because fuck you retard
>so you have to sign in just to turn the 1 option, and then go to local acc

just 2026 software things

>>109057288
Sure they know how to work with that engine but not disclosing what kind of performance player should expect is simply unacceptable.

>>109057319
its kinda tough to do with dlss
like you dont like the fps you change the scaling a bit, native res perf doesnt tell the users anything since they will use dlss

>>109057327
Then write 1080p DLSS Q low settings @60FPS, or whatever the target is. Not that hard.

>>109057319
Yep. It always was unacceptable.

>>109057284
same as fortnite:
1080p 30fps low
1440p 30fps high

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>>109057359
>30fps

>>109056873
>>109056937
>>109056951
So just find an IPS panel 4K that isn't OLED and hope it's within my $400 budget? $300 would be nice too. I also need to consider real estate for my desk. I won't mind keeping one 1080p monitor as a secondary, but that means a 32 inch one is out of the question.

>>109057380
you just need like a 70cm deep desk and a monitor arm and a 32" monitor will fit just fine

>>109057368
It's 30fps average :^DDD

movies are 24fps because all you can see is 24fps, 12fps for each eye, so people with only one eye can only experience 12fps, noobs

>>109057368
its not as bad as you think because there's nvidia reflex/amd antilag 2 now. the minimum gpus support those.

>>109057441
Except Intel

I get screen tearing so bad playing warthunder and I capped the fps to 180, my monitors max

>>109057422
I believe they settled for 24 fps because of the motion blur hiding fake elements

with higher fps you see more clearly and cheap movies would start to break visually

>>109057475
You cant get tearing with vrr.

>>109057496
I find movies at above 30fps to be tiresome on the eyesight, 60fps movies are unwatchable to me

>>109057502
I def prefer 60 fps youtube videos at 4k over anything else

>>109057391
I don't have a tape measure to know exactly how wide my current desk is, but my room is pretty cramped. A bigger desk risks bumping into the TV (also 1080p but no intention on upgrading that one; it's seemingly among the last non-smart TVs anyway)

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>>109057166
>kojima and a few other devs actually know how to make games

>>109056937
he sounds like he plays emulator games, so pulsar would help a with motion clarity of games that run at 60fps.
but I agree that pulsar is not worth $650 (or whatever the current prices are ATM).
Also it seems like they got pulsar working on linux, I think (before this, someone said it worked if you boot into windows, then enable pulsar, and then reboot into linux).
I think they will release a cheaper version with fewer zones, that would probably mean a higher chance of experiencing strobing / flicker, but if it's $400, that would be kind of decent.

>>109057507
you can order a deep, as in the edge away from you is far enough that a monitor doesnt need to be too close to your face, desk from amazon
I recommend a standing desk that has 2 stage legs for going down about 60cm from the floor. Often they sell the legs alone and you can order the top separately.

Also you use your tv through your windows pc anyway so what does the spyware OS matter

>>109057131
I have a 3060ti I upgraded from sitting in a box.

>>109054087
enjoy the refund

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>>109057380
>IPS panel 4K that isn't OLED
Supposedly, many IPS panels aren't OLED

>>109057380
>IPS panel 4K that isn't OLED and hope it's within my $400 budget
https://www.bestbuy.com/product/asus-rog-strix-27-dual-mode-4k-160hz-fhd-324hz-ips-1ms-gaming-monitor-with-freesync-premium-and-hdr-displayport-hdmi-black/JJGHGPR6H6

>>109057771
>left
pet pet pet pet pet

>right
>spray with water bottle

I use va, because it lasts longer, and it has a feature that helps reduce dizziness due to anti-aliasing.

>>109057803
2026 is the year if thoroughly mainstream oled monitors price wise
sticking to lcd makes little sense

>>109057811
It makes sense because oled ALL BURN IN.

all.

all. of. them.

If you buy the oled as a spare "just to burn it and throw it away"

fine.

oled is disposable asian crap, it's the asian mentality to make nothing last.

It's like the 5090. When they started going flambe, the asians weren't like "oh no, we want these to last for hundreds of years" they were like lmao it's sand for the trash anyway, eol soon

>>109057883
you're just poor with broken mindset
in the 1st world we have expendable income, and cheap monitors burn in after several years dont induce mental anguish

>>109057787
Just the price I expected. Now I'm assuming there's no true difference between 27 and 32 inches in regards to proper CRT filters? Surely even the former would be a big leap to my current setup.

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>>109050010
ok I'm tired of these stupid niggers downstairs tripping the circuit breaker
what's a good silent UPS for a PC with a 1000w power supply

>>109057883
>hating on oled and the 5090
Like the other anon said, poor or thirdie

>>109057895
>I destroy all things for every comfort and pleasure
>why yes I am a boomer

>>109057977
THEY.
MELT.

Who the hell would buy that? You don't have to be rich to buy something that costs less than any running used car. At least the car has the excuse of having wear parts.

>>109058031
If you had more successful genes you'd commit less mental gymnastics on 4chan

>>109057883
Cool story bruh. Zero burn-in here after 4 years of mixed use.

>>109058022
Everything you use is slowly being destroyed by the fact that you're using them. Even LCD TVs will eventually get burn in if you use it for long enough.

Finally going to upgrade my EVGA 1070 and am switching to full-time Linux as well. Looking at the 9070 xt and wanted to know if I should go with a Sapphire or Asus model?

>>109058090
Sapphire if you can afford it, just don't get the Nitro+ model

>>109058111
I'm in Canada and for some reason Asus is more expensive but not by too much. Is the Pulse still the go to for Sapphire?

Crazy how OLED burn-in only ever comes up in discussions about TVs and displays but never phones. I don't think a single person has ever once said "Yeah I loved my galaxy but you know I had it for so long I started getting burn-in. I wished they used something other than OLED for them."

>>109058154
it is a relevant thing to be cautious about when you have high brightness and static screen elements up 16h each day

>>109058090
Just be aware that AMD is in the middle of adopting upscaling and various AI-accelerated features which they'll have to change their hardware to support.
So, the next AMD series is likely to be a big step in that direction and the 90XX cards won't have hardware support for it and will be largely discontinued.

>>109058154
I have 2 phones with burn in, one is a galaxy s5 I used for almost 4 years and you can just make out the notification bar. The other is a Galaxy A51 which has the same thing but you can also make out the Clover/Kuroba UI.
That being said you don't notice it except in certain color shades.

Not really worried about an OLED monitor because it never gets nearly as bright as a phone. IDK how many hours I've been shitposting in board daylight with max brightness on phones

>>109058178
Oh shit that sucks but
>Late 2027 ETA
I don't care to wait that long and if it's a life changing improvement for AMD cards I'll think about another upgrade down the line

>>109057380
I should warn you that at the last CES they mentioned that they will release a $500 woled.
qd-oleds are usually cheaper than woleds, but woleds are really nice because they are actually black, BUT high end qd-oleds should not have as much of a purple tint.
https://www.displayninja.com/best-oled-monitor
Sadly I only see the QD-OLED being released for $550 in december.
I think the RGB oled monitors will cost $1000, but if you want text clarity, it's probably worth it.

>>109058201
Pretty much. Games that run now won't suddenly run any worse when they do release it. But, just expect that GPUs aren't like they were in Pascal and being able to use a 1070 for like 10 years isn't going to happen again.

>>109058226
Fair enough. I only held into my 1070 for as long as I did it of stubbornness and now that EVGA is gone, I knew this day was coming and that we would never have it as good again. China Jews will take everything from us in time.

>>109058226
Quite the contrary, GPUs are much more usable for longer now because of DLSS

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>>109058275
>9070XT
>DLSS

>>109058276
FSR4.1 is better than DLSS4.Xdogshit now and any game with DLSS exclusive can be injected with FSR anwyays.

>>109058287
there's only a handful of games that don't support fsr 3.1 or 4.1 already, because devs are lazy and don't update their dlls

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>>109058287
>FSR4.1 is better than DLSS4.Xdogshit now and any game with DLSS exclusive can be injected with FSR anwyays.

>>109058287
Bro, come on.
Don't lie to people. The guy wants to buy a 9070XT, don't dissuade him by making shit up and seeming insufferable.

>>109058301
nvidia is kind enough to create streamline and devs just plop that in and because of that you can swap out dlss with fsr,xess,even custom shit

>>109058304
it is, cry about it schizo

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>>109058321
>Bro, come on. Don't lie to people. The guy wants to buy a 9070XT, don't dissuade him by making shit up and seeming insufferable.

>>109058217
Way out of budget. That being said, I decided to look more locally. I currently have two Asus monitors that serve me well, but is Dell a reputable brand when it comes to screens? I have an eye on this one and there's plenty in stock.

https://www.microcenter.com/product/693763/dell-27-plus-s2725qs-27-4k-uhd-(3840-x-2160)-120hz-led-monitor

nvidia schizo bought a 5090 to spend his entire day shilling in this general instead of playing games, he's probably going to blow his brains out in the next few months

>>109058361
im playing project zomboid rn THO

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There are more people with 5080s than 9070xt drones

>>109058038
It has burn-in, it's a scientific fact, not speculation. You may not notice it, but it's not "trolling" to warn of burn-in. It's a fact of oled life. Science.

>>109058385
(so far)

>>109058385
I dont think there are bigger drones than the people that bought the 5080, the worst value card in history probably

>>109058127
Yes

>>109058446
the thing is people have expendable income and want a good card, without paying 5090 money

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>>109058446
See >>109050958 , if anything the people that bought the worst value card in history are the people that bought the RDNA4 series, RDNA1 that did not get direct ultimate.

>>109056726
i looked it up and the whole build is probably 50% this price when you buy it all on amazon
>>109056852
what is a better game cpu?

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>>109058385
>There are more people with 5080s with worse Timespy scores than 9070xt drones

>>109058454
If only the 5090 wasn't Mr. Flambe

>>109058476
>what is a better game cpu?
>>109050010
>>CPU
>Gaming: 250K, 14600K, 7/9600X, 7/9800X3D