PSA to retarded europeans: SMS/MMS exists too
>>109053807MMS costs £0.30 eachSMS can't send picturesBoth very expensive internationallyBoth not encrypted
>>109053838fpbp/threadop btfo
>>109053838hmh, nta, so, maybe there's a strictly network over internet protocol we can use? detached from private companies and all?
Simplex is the best.
>>109053807Viber and Messenger are both garbage. Haven't used Whatsapp and Telegram.I miss MSN/AIM/ICQ. Just a tiny app in the taskbar with minimum resource usage, that also auto logs conversations. Shit, even Skype could do that much.
>>109053838>MMS costs £0.30 eachIllimited and free.>SMS can't send picturesFalse>Both very expensive internationallymaybe>Both not encryptedYou can't trust your phone. You can't trust any electronic devices, I thought it was a given.
>>109053807If you wouldn't yell it into a megaphone, you shouldn't send it over SMS.
>>109053807>saying this when iMessage is the only other major contenderAnd, no, people don't use iMessage for SMS/MMS. They actively bitch about it when the bubbles are green.
>>109053807This map is inaccurate or outdated.
>>109053807Smoke signals and semaphore exist too.
>>109053807SMS is a garbage technology only used for legacy reasons, similar to email.Pretty much the only reason anyone uses it is if the country is unfortunately enough to be fulled cucked by Apple since everyone defaults to iMessage and have to use SMS as a backup.
>>109053807only boomers use viber in the balkans, others are unfortunately retards and use whatsapp instead of telegram
>>109053807>>109053838Recently, I've been getting people in the states nagging me to install WhatsApp even though SMS/MMS is free here. Granted, I live in a very hispanic infested area.
>>109053807Joke's on you, I don't use any of those aplications, I don't even have them installed on my phone.
>>109053865I've set up XMPP for my family. In theory if someone else does the same it would federate as well.
>>109053807it's almost sad just how much albanians want to gobble westoid cock
>>109053807>SMS/MMS exists tooyeah the jeets love it
>>109054122I have a friends that are dragging their feet getting both XMPP and Meshtastic setup. The public MUCs are both depressing and entertaining to watch. Mesh is mostly autists attempting watercooler talk.
>>109054149Same could be said of Croatia and Slovenia.
It's funny how Viber is sompopular with balkanistant and adjacent, must something deeply cultural. Also Telegram has literally best UX and UI since like forever, but it never took off outside of eastern europe. Kinda shows.
>>109053838Even ignoring cost, the last part is the bad thing. Pathetically, it's better to trust Facebook or Google than the telecom carrier, who also has data retention liability.
>>109054025nice try, Ivan
>>109054314No it isn't.
considering messenger and whatsapp are both owned by meta its strange how they have never been merged
>>109054314>SMS>Read by telecom and governemnt>Messaging "apps">Read by government, megacorp, and anyone they decide to sell your data to
>using tracking dog collar sims in the 26
>>109053807sms and MMS are boomer technologies. when are mutts going to catch up?or is this a psyop about maintaining blue bubble supremacy?
>>109053807psa to you retard, kill yourself now so i dont have to filter out these threads also i dont use a phone, its made for you american niggers
What do you think of signal
I'm an ugly incel so I dont use chat apps
>>109053807>mutt obsessed with Europe #23749723904729374972364723648726341
>>109053807>SMS/MMS exists toois it 2004 again?
me and my gf use the lovense remote app to text
>>109054303theres nothing particularly "culturally" specific, it just the first app that became widespread and popular here, and all kinds of businesses and organizations adopted it, so you are kinda forced to use it nowadays. i get all my bank messages or bills through viber for exampleits fucking dogshit, but its just too ubiquitous at this point. i think most people, especially boomers, use messenger for everyday chat with their friends tho, viber is more for businesses contacts . whatsapp and telegram are also kinda popular for groupchats. also, (((viber))) is israeli, and they are REALLY advertising it hard to companies and shit t. bulgarian
>>109054862>get all my bank messages or bills through viberHow did we get to this point
>>109054891by companies being gigajewish and not wanting to pay the telecoms for SMS, i guess
>>109053807>SMS/MMSUnc, did you get stuck in the 90s?
>letting Meta have access to all your chats and photos
because they made it retardedly expensive and never reduced the price
>>109054906Email is free...
>>109054963no one checks emails
>>109054972Skill issue
>>109055034>european are dumb cattle because of DA JOOZ
Max > *
>>109053838>MMS costs £0.30 eachWHAT THE FUCK!? Is it still 1999 over there? lol
>>109053838>MMS costs £0.30 eachThe country that invented phones, ladybirds and /g/entoomen!
>>109053838Yes first post covered it. They added 4g/5g internet to phones with MB/s up/down and still charge for SMS, it's fucking stupid.
>>109054963It also has to be setup, and so far there hasn't been a major way to one-step setup the correct type.And email handles are a nightmare.
>>109053882Why are Americans so obsessed with iMessage
>>109054972Kill boomers and zoomers
>>109055263Okay now show me at least one bank or bill service that does not demand your email address. And besides Telegram, don't IM services require email as well?
>>109055354?If you don't get it, and choose not to read the post, its fine. But don't go crying about it.
>>109053807> picAll 4 are controlled by either US, Russia or Israel. Grim. I'm surprised there are no chinks in this business.
>>109053807In my country and on my carrier, it is enough to send 88 SMS messages to spend the same amount of money as my monthly carrier payment. I'm scared to even check how much MMS costs.
>>109055208Shut up goy.
>>109053872>ViberMossad.>Messenger Zuck>Whatsapp Zuck>TelegramGRU
>>109055316i am using it on date 1. need to filter the bitches.
all of you autistic fat fucks just use only discord anyway, why do you care
>>109055529>you think I am loser?>you just got filtered, LMAO!>wait come back!>I dont wanna die alone!
>>109054862>t. bulgarian
>>109055540i stand behind what i wrote. i am meeting her with an android in left hand a steam deck in right hand.
>>109055529what? that's some junior high tier shit lol, no female willing to bang cares about what color texts are
>>109055541facts
Never used a single one of these.
MMS can't practically even do pics. Isn't there like 100kB limit or something?
>>109055596When was the last time you needed to send a picture to someone?And no, sending memes to your autistic long distance gf doesn't count
>>109053838>MMS costs £0.30 eachIn the big 26?
>>109055615It's usually work related.>is that the "blocked parking space" I drove the loader all the way here for?
>>109055615>When was the last time you needed to send a picture to someone?all the time, you autistic fuck?
>>109055562Keep coping
>>109055761I rather jerk off than put my precious peepoo inside this tattooed communist monster.
>>109054303I'm from Poland so we use Messenger here, but I envy Eastern Slavs for having Telegram as their default, it's the best
>implying I have friends>implying I have relationships >implying I have ever sent a message to anyone>implying I would even know how carry a conversation
>>109053910I use sms + messengers when I want to make sure that the message arrives fast. Messengers alone are not really reliable in that regard. Messages send with whatsapp, telegram or iMessage sometimes arrive way too late (24h+). Lost quite a bit of money because of this.
Whats the use case of messaging people?
>>109053807I just use iMessage.
>>109053807xmpp ftw
>>109053878>illimited
>>109053807Sending a single SMS literally cost me like $0.10 in this cursed shithole.I live in a Facebook country but I use Viber because I deleted my Facebook account.
>>109056246You can get a thousand text messages for $100 USD though. That's more than most people send in their lifetime, at an average of around 8 per year. I've never needed more than that
>>109056295I'm literally saying that's not a thing in my country.
>>109053838/thread
>>109054149>>109054215viber sells data to serbian glowiesthose bulgarians will literally just fucking sell your messages
Why isn't there a chat version of email... A unified standard that the different apps can share. Then I can use sognal to message WhatsApp normies
>>109056907Delta chat
>>109053838And you call America third world.
>>109053807>SMS/MMS exists toostop pretending you're not using SMS/MMSEither you're using RCS or iMessage
>>109053838>MMS costs £0.30 eachThe absolute state of bongland
>>109057042They don't work on my GrapheneOS phone
>>109053878>>SMS can't send pictures>Falselook up what sms is retard
>>109053807PSA to retarded americans: we don't live in stone age anymore
>>109057031It is much more third world than EU
Will RCS change anything when it finally rolls out with e2ee everywhere?
>>109055540The approl marketing is getting desperate now geg
>>109057118What's there to look up? It's a TEXT MESSAGE.t. retard>>109053878>Illimited and free.Depending on the subscription, any usual 30€ per month deal gets you unlimited everything. But for prepaid deals for example SMS is like 0,03€ per message and MMS is usually way higher priced.
>>109057106Honestly I completely blame google for that because they still have not opened up the RCS API on android.I guess someone could implement it in the basic messenging app on android but there's no reason to do that when alternative applications for private messaging exist.
>>109054122Which server and clients? I've tried but they all look like shit
>>109053838the absolute state of bongsanyway, people here imessage
>>109057118You're confusing SMS with MMS, zoomer.
>>109057226>Differences = third world>WE ARE NOT LIKE THAT IN EUROPE>SOMEONE IS ADMIRING MY COUNTRY RIGHT NOW
>>109059880The higher your Gini coefficient is, the more of a 3rd world country you are. The closer you are to 1.0, the more your society is the equivalent of feudalism, oligarchy, mass slavery, totalitarianism, etc.
>>109054025>>109054902There are 0 reasons to use Telegram when Signal exists. They couldn't get encryption working, when even the Zuck-messengers got that
>>109060141That's a wild story bro. Too bad no one uses signal
>>109055615Every single day, wtf
>>109059332Ejabberd and Monal. Sure, even Element looks better, but nobody cares when it works.
>>109053807iMessage and Messnger is what most Americans use. The masses conform.
It's more pointless now that monthly base rates have caught up.You could have a basic plan with unlimited mobile data for a few euros. SMS and calls were pay by use but you didn't use them.
>>109053807We need to change all of those to Matrix, for the sake of humanity
>>109054303Viber was just the first app on the market, so people stuck with it.
>>109060141>Signal>no, you can't use your own client, you can use official non-reproducible binary only, it's for your own security goy>don't mind USA servers susceptible to subpoena goy
>>1090538071. Majority != Truth2. Majority != Best3. MMS is about to be disabled4. Just don't use any of them
>>109057957I sent some messages to a friend in belgium the other day and didn't pay anything, so it's bretty good so far
>>109053807nobody gives a shit about your schizo thoughts you are a virgin lol
>>109054303Viber and WhatsApp were the first 2 options on the market at the time when people were moving to smartphones. Viber won because it looked a bit better and, unironically, because it had stickers (the first adopters were literal kids, teens and college students). Parents and grandparents started using it since that's how they communicated with their kids once everyone got a smartphone. But, as we all know, young people tend to change their habits, applications and preferences very often while older people are more rigid. So millennials, zoomers and gen A moved to WhatsApp, Facebook Messenger, Telegram and Discord. Anyone over the age of 40 just kept using Viber because "why change" and because they barely know how to open an app let alone install one. So most younger people were forced into keeping Viber just to communicate with some of their family. And that's the only reason you'd have Viber these days.Even here in Croatia Viber is a close 2nd to WhatsApp and it was the most popular IM up until a couple of years ago.>>109055316Remember, you're talking about a country that didn't use NFC/contactless payments until COVID forced them to. iMessage was revolutionary in the US because Americans still used SMS/MMS at the time (and continued to do so for years). Apple forcing iMessage onto iPhone users made it a de facto communication standard for iPhone users, removing the need of other instant messengers.Installing yet another instant messenger is annoying and people prefer the convenience of centralization. Just look at Europe. Most Europeans have 2-5 instant messengers installed on their phones. That's the whole reason why the EU wants to force instant messengers to have cross-IM messaging support. I've seen some people who have Whatsapp, Viber, Telegram, FB Messenger, Signal and Discord on their phone, which is insanity.
>>109060457Another reason why apps never broke through in the US is because they paid out the ass for phone subscriptions that came with unlimited texts and calls while having limited and expensive data. In Europe it was the reverse where data was unlimited and cheap but you paid for every message. It's the same reason some apps and phones straight up refused to do downloads over data when smartphones were becoming a thing. Because they were catering to the American market that had no data to use. I've had times where I needed to find a public wifi to update my phone because the phone wouldn't download the update over my unlimited data and my phone was my wifi.
>>109055540she'll die alone with these endless requirements
>>109060325I didn't even know telegram had alt-clients
Pretty sure USA is the only country with free texting. That's why everyone else uses some form of IM app. Mobile data is unironically cheaper than SMS.
>>109060614it's not free if you pay for it, numbnuts
>>109060629That's what Americans told me. Are you saying they lied?
>>109053838>phone messaging/call plan>almost all unlimited, but I still have to vaguely think about it sometimes>internet plan>either unlimited or with enough data to practically be unlimited, no restrictions on who I can talk to or from what countryThe choice is beyond obvious, phone numbers literally ONLY exist to de-anonymize people now
All my friends use Signal and Discord.
>>109053807Viber is uter shit. Had to use it a couple of times coz wa is banned in egipt over gsm. Ads, buy credit to unlock bs, retarded menus
>>109053871this
>>109055631Well yeah, it's an obscure old standard with no current year use case.
>>109053807>green text bubblesyeah i'll pass
>>109061457>obscure
>>109061477Can't remember MMS ever being "a thing". First it was super expensive stuff no one used and then came le internet phones which made it obsolete.t. +40yo
The text message, or SMS and its MMS relative, never caught on in yuropoorland because unlimited text messages were never standard or covered by cell phone plans. As a result, because even the wealthiest yuropoorean region is poorer than the poorest American state, 3rd worlders (europeans) adopted WhatsApp just like the rest of the 3rd world.This fact alone causes endless seething
>>109061500>I never used it so nobody does!And how, pray tell, would you feel if you hadn't eaten breakfast this morning?
>>109061516wrong. SMS was widely used despite the costs.people jumped to instant messengers because they were free.
>>109059112>30€ per month for a phone planHoly fucking shit.I pay 4€ for my phone plan.
It's hilarious that Europeans love to say how much they hate and distrust Americans but they'll all use messaging platforms owned by Meta
>>109053807>€0.15/smsthat's why
>>109061559He's totally right to call it obscure. MMS was almost never used by the general population and most people didn't even know it existed. That's just the reality of the fact that MMS was expensive as fuck and worked differently from SMS.Most cellular plans didn't include MMS, but they did include 300-5000 "free" SMS messages. So MMS was something you'd have to pay to use, per message. Which most people didn't want given that SMS was usually free, and even if you weren't on a monthly plan SMS was still 10x-20x cheaper. Also, back then people weren't constantly connected to the internet, but MMS required you to be connected to a cell network to receive messages. The "feature phone era" didn't really give you any reason to connect your phone to a network so very few people did that in 2002-2012. Not to mention connecting to a cellular network was much more expensive back then and many plans didn't even include free monthly MBs. So even if you send an MMS to someone, there was a 99% chance they'd never see it unless you explicitly call them and ask them to check it out if they have megabytes available.Life was just different back then. Most people didn't even text as much, they simply called each other or visited each other. Any digital communication outside of phone calls was usually done through PCs and laptops using platforms like MSN, Skype or Facebook. By the time the demand for "media sharing on the go" grew, people already adopted iMessage, WhatsApp and Viber. MMS was a total failure.>>109061569Correct. SMS was "widely used" but people communicated a lot less via phone texts back then so it only appears as if it's irrelevant. People were sending messages with intent, rather than as a replacement for casual conversation. People commonly sent less than 100 SMS per year back then. But as soon as instant messengers and touch screen keyboards appeared, it started being common for people to send 100 messages per week.
>>109053807how to get esim with unlimited internet for free?
>>109061715whatsapp was already popular in europe before it was bought by Facebook for a ridiculous amount of money, zoom zoom.it was still American but not meta. obviously normies aren't going to change their habits for autistic reasons.
How shit are mobile plans in your cunts friends? Poland here free unlimited calls sms/mms i basically pay only for internet which i get 40GB a month all that for 30zł which is 8,20$
>>109055316I've never met a woman so retarded that she gives 2 fucks about what my phone brand is.In fact, if she does, you know right off the bat she has some mental health issues you should avoid.Or she's terminally american and you should avoid her anyway.>>109055529This.
>>109055540I would rather die alone than being forced to deal with anyone that is psychotic about phone brands.
>>109055761I love how bitches like her have all their red flags out in full display so that you know to avoid them like the plague.
>>109061808Nah. There's 3 distinct periods here:>2003 - 2010 MMS often not configured, people often don't have data and MMS is expensive>2010-2017 MMS auto-configured, people always have data or wifi, MMS is free>2017 -> now RCS taking overIn 2010-17 tons of MMS:s were sent, even just for being longer than a SMS can be. People just didn't realize as phones made very little distinction.
>>109061559>>109061477Well, honestly I don't remember seeing almost anyone using MMS back then.For some reason it was expensive as fuck.
>>109061932Oh, I think most people talking about MMS are specifically talking about sending files, like photos.
>>109061941Sure but if you wrote more than 160 characters it would become a MMS, too.
>>109061932no
>>109061832I use a pre-paid SIM where I only pay 5€ every 3 months just so that my SIM card doesn't get disabled. That's more than I need for all my calls and messages and quick internet searches.As far as monthly plans go, it depends on the carrier and varies wildly. I think our best option is 28€ for unlimited calls, SMS and internet. While the cheapest option is 8€ for 500 SMS, 500 minutes and 7GB.
Everytime i talk to a european I'm always surprised by how far behind they are, while also having a massive ego and pretending to be the greatest. It's weird when you finally meet some that are self aware of just how badly they have it but then cope about it by saying healthcare and banning all guns makes up for everything else.
>>109062081muh guns didn't help you prevent becoming an aipac puppet state.what DO you do with your guns?
>>109062081also a bit retarded writing that in a thread about SMS which is an ancient and objectively inferior technology.
>>109061932>2010-2017 MMS auto-configured, people always have data or wifiThe problem is the fact that starting with 2010 people already started using instant messengers, at least in Europe. So there was no need for MMS to exist. And people who adopted instant messengers later were mostly people who didn't even use mobile internet at all, so they wouldn't participate in MMS either.>people always have data or wifi>MMS is freeNot necessarily. 2009-2014 was still a transition period to smartphones and mobile internet for most people. Most people did have a smartphone by around 2011-2012, but having on-demand mobile data wasn't that popular until a few years later.>>109061932>>109061950>In 2010-17 tons of MMS:s were sent, even just for being longer than a SMS can be. People just didn't realize as phones made very little distinction.>Sure but if you wrote more than 160 characters it would become a MMS, too.That's not how it works. Multipart SMS was a thing. Almost all carriers would let you use up to 800 characters and have that split up into a multipart SMS automatically. Only after 800 chars did SOME carriers/phones convert that to MMS, and only after giving you a warning that you'd be charged extra. So most people just manually sent multiple SMS messages in those cases, or realized they should simply call the person instead (which would be "free", unlike MMS).
>>109061932Phase 2 and 3 never happened in Europe. It went straight from SMS to Whatsaoo, nobody ever used MMS or RCS here
>>109053807Itd be nice if these services could communicate with eachother
>>109053838burgerbros been real quiet since fpbp dropped
>>109055761she looks like she doesn't shave, and i'm not even talking about her vagooner
>>109062170Quite different throughout EU I guess. In many countries WA is standard, but in Sweden, it's very fractured. It's probably true FB Messenger is the biggest but it's far from something everyone has. So we still use SMS (well now RCS/imessage I guess).But most people had free MMS and some data by 2013 I'd say, they update peoples plans without consent.>>109053872>Viber and Messenger are both garbage. Haven't used Whatsapp and Telegram.Whatsapp is really garbage. It's phone number only, not only for login, but also for contacts. So only way to add someone is to give away your phone number, and anyone with your phone number can see your profile. It's also really buggy on PC, lacking features, etc. Wechat is so much better.
>>109062608>only way to add someone is to give away your phone number, and anyone with your phone number can see your profileIf you're not comfortable giving someone your phone number, then maybe you shouldn't communicate with that person.
>>109062669Okay what's your phone number? You have communicated with me already, anon.A messaging application shouldn't give away personal information like that unnecessarily.
>>109053807i use signaldon't bother texting anyone, who doesn't
>>109062757>Swede being dumbThere's a difference between an online forum and a private 1:1 messaging application.
>>109062608>Wechat is so much better.1 RMB has been added to your Tencent credit
>>109062867>There's a difference between an online forum and a private 1:1 messaging application.You just said communicate. You were wrong. And just like you want to talk to me and others here without giving me your phone number, obviously it's common that you might want to communicate with someone 1:1 or in a group chat without giving out your phone.>A messaging application shouldn't give away personal information like that unnecessarily.You can't get away from the fact that it's a big drawback.You can only make that argument by conceding that WA is not a general communication app but rather only a IRL/people you trust (SMS replacement) app... Although there is no justification for that either.
>>109063563>You just said communicate. You were wrong.Again, you're either dumb or pretending to be dumb on purpose. It's clear what we're talking about.>You can't get away from the fact that it's a big drawback.If you want to call someone's phone or send someone an SMS, you need to provide your phone number. Whatsapp is there as an alternative to the regular phone calls and SMS/MMS, just more feature rich. If you're looking for an "anonymous" chat platform then you have other options. You're crying over nothing.The only argument I could see is if your number (or username, in other apps) gets leaked and you get spammed by a million pajeets, which is a fair point. But most IM apps only have a static ID and the only one I can think of that doesn't is SimpleX.>You can only make that argument by conceding that WA is not a general communication app but rather only a IRL/people you trust (SMS replacement) appExactly my point, yes. It's perfectly fine as a chat platform with the people you know, or people you do business with.There's very little reason to chat with people you don't know or don't do business with. Yes, we're chatting now, but this is my idle, irrelevant past time rather than anything important or serious. We're nothing but irrelevant NPCs to each other. I don't care about you nor should you care about me.
>>109063682NTA but isn't the single phone number your sole exclusive external identity in those shitty apps? For example if I want work related communication staying on separate account I'm straight up fucked, right?>inb4 buy another phoneHaha, right, sure
>>109053807This thread reminded me that muricans still use SMS/MMS.Oh and american women get the ick when they see a green message bubble on their iphone.
>>109063786Not really. Either get a dual sim phone or like all android phones do now you can make dual apps instalation. So you juat use the dual app feature have 2 wa accounts on 2 separate wa apps you need to use the 2nd sim only for the dirst authentification because it will send you a sms so you need to be able to enter the verification code tou won t need that sim ever again except if you change phones and you ll need the auth code after you reinstall wa againAt work we have a phone with a wa number that expired 4 5 years ago but as long as you don t switch phones, log out or reinstall the app you are good
>>109063786>NTA but isn't the single phone number your sole exclusive external identity in those shitty apps?Yes. Get another phone* and another SIM. Good point, its really shitty.Another hilarious thing is that if you ever lose your phone number, your WA account will be taken over. Not just that you lose access, someone else controls it now.>Whatsapp is there as an alternative to the regular phone calls and SMS/MMS, just more feature rich. If you're looking for an "anonymous" chat platform then you have other options.>You can only make that argument by conceding that WA is not a general communication app but rather only a IRL/people you trust (SMS replacement) appSo you do concede there.>It's perfectly fine as a chat platform with the people you know, or people you do business with.Limited usecase, better use something that supports general use.>There's very little reason to chat with people you don't know or don't do business with.Yeah I don't believe you, frankly. You write here, you probably talk on discord, instagram or tiktok with medium-trusted people, then on WA with family or something like that. Then a plethora of other apps for other things.But either way, there is no situation where it would be a positive that you're forced to give out your phone. It's always a positive to not have to.There's infinite situations where you would not want to give it, though. Pretty much any situation online.>gets leaked and you get spammed by a million pajeetsYeah that's something that happens often. Or it results in doxxing and general harassment. Or frivolous lawsuits, even.>But most IM apps only have a static IDNope. Signal, telegram and FB messenger all support changing usernames. With discord you can too, although the new username is findable through userID. But you can just make a new account because it's not tied to a phone number.
>>109063786>For example if I want work related communication staying on separate account I'm straight up fucked, right?You can install multiple instances of the same app by using Android's user accounts feature.You can buy burner SIMs to register different phone numbers for each different profile. Most of these apps only need a phone number upon initial setup. I still use Telegram and Signal with a phone number that has been dead for 4-5 years. I never had issues transferring them between devices.>>109064159>you probably talk on discord, instagram or tiktok with medium-trusted peopleNope, I don't use those platforms. Only this shithole. All my other communication is with my friends, family and people I work with.And again, this is a public forum. It's totally different from an instant messenger. I don't care about my messages here, they're worthless entertainment.But when it comes to an instant messenger, I'm only contacting people I know or do business with. I need to know their identity and vice versa.>Signal, telegram and FB messenger all support changing usernamesI'm pretty sure Signal and Telegram let people find you by your phone number. Also, your username change is visible to all your contacts. Changing your nickname isn't an "incognito mode".My point was that SimpleX is the better tool for this. It doesn't have UUIDs at all. Your "ID" is different to each of your contacts. It's like giving every person you're communicating with a completely different phone number to contact you.>you can just make a new account because it's not tied to a phone number.That depends. Discord tends to lock up your account until you provide a phone number unless you disable pretty much every single tracking protection feature out there. I had the unfortunate need to access some Discord servers to download stuff and I usually get instantly hit by the "we need your phone number to confirm you're not a bot". I would classify it on the same level as WA.
>>109063971>>109064535What's with this 4 5 years? Samefag? Though as other anon pointed out this is ripe for account takeover.I suppose having bipolar apps at OS level is nice.
>>109062081t. didn't figure out contactless payments until covid forced them to and were chasing free public wifis for data until few years ago
By some strange alchemy, MMS is transmitted by unconventional means, which is definitely not data, so its not covered by your data plan.
