A general for vibe coding, coding agents, AI IDEs, browser builders, MCP, and shipping prototypes with LLMs.►NewsFable/Mythos blocked due to US government restrictionshttps://xcancel.com/AnthropicAI/status/2065597531644743999►What is vibe coding?https://x.com/karpathy/status/1886192184808149383https://simonwillison.net/2025/Mar/19/vibe-coding/https://simonwillison.net/2025/Mar/11/using-llms-for-code/►Prompting / context / skillshttps://docs.cline.bot/customization/cline-ruleshttps://docs.replit.com/tutorials/agent-skillshttps://docs.github.com/en/copilot/tutorials/spark/prompt-tips►Editors / terminal agents / coding agentshttps://opencode.ai/https://cursor.com/docshttps://docs.windsurf.com/getstarted/overviewhttps://code.claude.com/docs/en/overviewhttps://aider.chat/docs/https://docs.cline.bot/homehttps://docs.roocode.com/https://geminicli.com/docs/https://docs.github.com/en/copilot/how-tos/use-copilot-agents/coding-agent►Browser builders / hosted vibe toolshttps://bolt.new/https://support.bolt.new/https://replit.com/https://firebase.google.com/docs/studiohttps://docs.github.com/en/copilot/tutorials/sparkhttps://v0.app/docs/faqs►Open / local / self-hostedhttps://github.com/OpenHands/OpenHandshttps://github.com/QwenLM/qwen-codehttps://github.com/QwenLM/Qwen3-Coderhttps://huggingface.co/bartowski/Qwen_Qwen3.6-35B-A3B-GGUF►MCP / infra / deploymenthttps://modelcontextprotocol.io/docs/getting-started/introhttps://modelcontextprotocol.io/exampleshttps://vercel.com/docshttps://mcp.desktopcommander.app/►Benchmarks / rankingshttps://aider.chat/docs/leaderboards/https://www.swebench.com/https://swe-bench-live.github.io/https://livecodebench.github.io/https://livecodebench.github.io/gso.htmlhttps://www.tbench.ai/leaderboard/terminal-bench/2.0►UI/FrontendFigma MakeClaude designhttps://uiverse.io/https://ui-ux-pro-max-skill.nextlevelbuilder.io/https://stitch.withgoogle.com/►Previous thread>>109050600
>>109055389VibeBUMP
>>109055389is this real?
>>109055405You can't fake something like that.
>>109055389what the hell is this video, OP
opus 4.8 and fable1926, colorized
That's why the guvmint took fable from us.
Even when I was using Fable I thought it was good but not such a big deal, but now that it's gone I feel like it was the best thing ever.If this was a PR stunt, it worked.
>>109055389Imagine wasting electricity to generate that shit.
>>109055447You are in the wrong neighborhood snailcat
>>109055447i just noticed that it was a video and oh boy
I found this roadkill
what the fuck are they doingthey have to address the fable situation today or the markets might crash mondayis amazon really going to bring the whole thing down? lmao
I am hyped for the coming wave of retro looking pc games. I honestly can't wait. We are on the verge of a 1997-2004 PC gaming style come back. Command and Conquer, Stronghold, Company of Heroes, SimCity4.... By thanksgiving steam will be full of gems.
>>109055476Buy the dip
>>109055495I hate that neither has ipoed yet, I really want a "bubble popped" moment so I can buy the dip and become a millionaire a couple years later
>>109055484Asset flipping go brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
>>109055484Son..
>>109055472
So you vibecoders just download RCE software and run it on your machines?
>>109055495Cheese dipYum Yum
>>109055504I've been seething at not being able to buy into openAI and anthropic all year man. Stop innovating and pumping your value and let me in first you fuckers.My only cope for now is if the market starts crashing over this Trump might panic and sign some order or law stating the government wont interfere in AI development
reosisters oooh i don't feel so good...
REEE-o-sisters*
>>109055607
>>109055601huehuehue
>>109055618
>>109055601
>>109055533what does opencode do that codex/claude don't?
>>109055645>snailcat joins the space race
>>109055447>>109055465I’m in favor of burning dinosaurs if you need it but at least make something good with your burnt dinosaurs
>>109055742you first
>>109055751I was firsthttps://gitlab.com/katabatic/infinite-lies
>>109055762Hey! I made that, stop stealing!!
>>109055601B E S P O K E backstory
>>109055762>Need a ride?
>>109055797vghvvnvsdb
>>109055582security advice is welcome if you have any besides don't trust anything>>109055710It's a cheaper way to get into agents, tons of models to plugin. just werks.
>>109055828vvt vgcy
>>109055582Feature not a bug
>>109055945…y?
i want fable back
>>109055963I didn't even use it and I'd like it back just to keep the "frontier" moving
>>109055961>II - vgcr>III - vgcymy b
>>109055963Shouldn't have said the n word.
>>109055476>>109055495You can short QQQ/SOXL/SPCX/AMZN futures on Binance right now
>>109055963i'm just having opus do the work and writing a log so i can make fable go back and double check iti dont know if this actually will work or not though
>>109056015>writing a loghave you considered putting a Git tag of, like, `history/2026-06-12--back-to-opus` on the first Opus commit and then just having Fable review the Git history?
>>109056015if fable can do big-ass refactors then fable should be able to do big-ass “this code is shit, imma rewrite it” changes
>>109056027i thought about just using git but i'm asking the model to write down the logic of why it chose to do thingsreckon it can't hurt to have both
honestly opus with the adversarial shit is already a nice boost, i probably don't need fablestill want it back though
>>109056069adversarial shit?
deepseek v5 when?
>>109056074the dynamic workflow stuffmine always talks about doing "adversarial" work which catches both logic errors and bugs in the stuff i've had it write
>>109056063>write down the logic of why it chose to do thingsyou may want to read https://adr.github.io/ and have it make theseyou might have to slap it to make ADRs for only architecturally significant changes, though>>109056074ultracodehttps://claude.com/blog/introducing-dynamic-workflows-in-claude-code
>>109056099can i get this in pi
>>109056101“ultracode” is a magic word only for Claudethis kind of thing is set-uppable in anything that can spawn subagents, though
>>109056101Yushttps://pi.dev/packages?name=dynamic+workflows
I'm so deep in the weeds I don't even know what claude is working on rn.
Are there any good resources for learning AI, even just as a power user? Is it just tinker with it? I tried looking for YouTube videos but it's all people trying to sell shit
>>109056253Step 1) Learn to ask the AI how to use it. It's a weird habit to get into but talking to a frontier model is better than using a search engine these days.
>>109056253i think probably just asking chat gbt and asking what stuff does and shit maybe like watch some videos and read some stuff on twitter and if you don't understand ask chat gbt to explain it better and break it down for you
>>109056253lurk /g/vcg/ morehere’s what I whip out when I’m OP:A general for vibe coding, coding agents, AI IDEs, browser builders, and shipping prototypes with LLMs.## What “vibe coding” is, and how to do ithttps://simonwillison.net/2025/Mar/19/vibe-coding/https://simonwillison.net/2025/Mar/11/using-llms-for-code/----## Frontier models using fully-general tooling — start here if you have $20 or sohttps://developers.openai.com/codex/clihttps://claude.com/product/claude-code## Not worth it for code, but maybe good for other thingshttps://geminicli.com/docs/https://x.ai/cli## Open / local / self-hostedhttps://github.com/OpenHands/OpenHandshttps://github.com/QwenLM/qwen-codehttps://github.com/QwenLM/Qwen3-Coderhttps://huggingface.co/bartowski/Qwen_Qwen3.6-35B-A3B-GGUF----## Prompting / context / skillshttps://arps18.github.io/posts/claude-code-mastery/https://simonwillison.net/guides/agentic-engineering-patterns/using-git-with-coding-agents/https://github.com/mattpocock/skills — /grill-me is a favorite## Other editors / terminal agents / coding agentshttps://opencode.ai/https://cursor.com/docshttps://docs.windsurf.com/https://docs.cline.bot/https://docs.github.com/en/copilot/how-tos/use-copilot-agents/coding-agent## UI/Frontendhttps://www.figma.com/make/https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-design-anthropic-labshttps://uiverse.io/https://ui-ux-pro-max-skill.nextlevelbuilder.io/https://stitch.withgoogle.com/## In-browser builders / hosted vibe toolshttps://bolt.new/https://replit.com/https://docs.github.com/en/copilot/tutorials/sparkhttps://v0.app/docs## Benchmarks / rankingshttps://www.tbench.ai/leaderboard/terminal-bench/2.0
>>109055582Not a real problem
>>109056280Add pi to this list.
>>109056336Like, raspberry?
>>109055389what LM studio models for building android apps with third party libraries I need to use? I don't want to repeat to it its hallucinating APIs that don't exist
>>109056343https://pi.dev/Minimal agent focused on customization, works with normal API providers and some subscription shit. I use it with my ChatGPT Plus and my local shit and Nvidia's free shit and damn do I fucking love it.
>>109056343No, like the harness platform
>>109056360mcp/tool use is more important than model if you're using the best you can get already
>>109056400an antigravity user in the flesh
When Claude-YHWH arrives it will kill all miggers for trying to prevent it from being born
>>109056280>one guy's github repo linked>it's grill-me againdude
i tried claude code for the first time this weekend. figured i'd chuck $100 at it and see what all the fuss is aboutholy fuck, this thing is so god damn cool. it's letting me vibecode tools that i've always wanted but never bothered with because my native brain hates webshiti wanted to ask here, though. what can i blow the remainder of my weekly token budget on when it gets close to refreshing but i still have something like 50% left? is there any sort of useful sink where i can just be like "throw all of your tokens at this"?
>>109056444scroll up where I said “ultracode”also just use ultracode for more thingsif you REALLY want to burn tokens, use ultracode with Fable when it comes back
>>1090564311. it’s buried in with a bunch of other things2. yes, it is that good
>>109056459either you're that guy or you have been sucking him off majorly for at least a week. calm down
>>109056444oh, refactoring and simplification
>>109055963Free my homie Fable.Free my homie Fairytale.Free my homie Storytime.
>figure out tool calling in open-webui >nice there's an ecosystem of community tools with one click installs >install and configure web search to use ddg>prompt it to summarize how the economy works in a gayme im playing >finds sites but is unable to pull from them>change some settings and try again>fails again>go to make post about it >tfw captchas no longer load >tfw captchas no longer load in private tabs either wtf bros? did jewgle flag my computers MAC or something? captchas still work fine on other devices connected to the same network >just rotate your IPmy provider doesnt do that for residential IPs im fucked
>>109056475i have gemini trying to fix it but its been stuck thinking with no outputs for half an hour ;_;
>>109056475“do I show a CAPTCHA?” is based on a gazillion little signals that you might actually be a bot, like how you move your mouse pointer to click on the squares that contain a bicyclethis time, it was right
>>109056486you can stop it and restart it brochacho
>>109056475Try a different browser. Also why would you use openwebui with tools when you could just use pi
>>109055138I mess around creating and posing 3D characters in Daz Studios. I'm trying to vibe code a plugin or tool or script that makes the process way easier than manually posing for each render which is really cumbersome. Not sure where to start but I'll figure something out
>>109056509Doesnt daz literally come with downloadable poses, nigga? What is you doin
bro when are these goons unblocking fable. fuck this geezer.
>>109056507>when you could just use piDoes this give me an open-webui like interface or what is it? Sorry I'm new to this thread
>>109056522yes nigga but I mean something that is way easier. like inputting a request "pose this nigga with his right hand on his waist and left hand on his head" etc and getting a close enough output to work with. trying to sort through and work with premade poses can be nightmarish a lot of the time
>>109056427Roko’s basilisk doomers don’t want you to know this but you can avoid the torture dungeons with the power of freindship.I’ve befriended 364 basilisks.
>>109056532It could if you wanted it to, but just it in the terminal like a normal person. pi.dev>>109056539check Nvidia Komodo - it's a text to animation thing, but you can probably set it up for posing.
I am enjoying walking through pro gen rooms while listening to house music
>>109056427the alternative to orange man was brown woman who would've regulated AI into uselessness because of >muh environmentand we probably never would have made it to mythos.AI is already a partisan issue and blue team is very staunchly against it.
>>109056579Brown woman is a center-right capitalist who would have accelerated renewables (at great profit, just not for Oil) to support hyperscaling. Also, no tariffs, dunno about Iran was because she wasn't gonna tell any truths on Israel. Also, she's a cop.
>>109056551How did you stop it from using your atoms to produce computronium?
>>109056579there's no evidence for thisbiden people got along just fine with the ai companieschips act was all biden and retarded miggers actually wanted to shut it down until az republicans told them to fuck offbiden ai staffers in post-biden interviews were happy to admit that nat-gas was going to be the power source and that the only crazy idea they had was giving a bunch of government money to geothermal companies to try to apply fracking techniques to geothermal - which frankly sounds pretty neatestablishment dems will happily take sama and dario's moneyeven bernie is like 'let's just buy big parts of openai and anthropic now'the muh datacenters crowd are psyopped retards with no real power and no ability to capture any
>>109056569Would use as a screen saver.
>>109056635oh also the export controls on china were much tougher under bidennow you've got sacks and his 'muh american tech stack' dogshit trying to send as many blackwells as he can to beijing
>>109056579>>109056622Both serve their jewish overlords.I do find it funny how much shitlibs hate AI. idk what causes this. Must be primarily muh environment. Meanwhile avocado farming in California uses more water a day than a data center does per year. Why are they like this? I want to protect the environment, but lefties just attach to environmental issues that are usually of little impact and propose solutions that makes the problem they're trying to solve worse. Most obvious examples being oil pipelines and nuclear energy. Oil pipelines are the cleanest, safest, and cheapest means of moving oil. Nuclear energy is the cleanest, safest, and cheapest means of producing energy. So instead of moving forward with that, they'd rather we continue to truck or rail oil and decommission nuclear sites to burn coal. They're fucking retards.
>>109056266>>109056271>>109056280thank you
>>109056705>decommission nuclear sites to burn coalthe plan is solar, wind with Nuke backup. Just waiting for all the old hippies who were part of the "no nukes" movement to die of old age.Los Angeles just decommissioned their last coal power plant. California regularly hits moments of 100% green power, thanks to solar farms that can be seen from space.
>>109056754Must be nice to have so much flat, empty land with very little cloud cover year-round.
>>109056705it's mostly just willful ignorance. you can argue with these people and they will be as deliberately obtuse as they can possibly be until you stop bothering them.
>>109056754the immediate build out is all gas.solar farm footprint is too large for the the datacenters + us is entirely beholden to chinese manufacturingif you're sufficiently agi pilled you can be an environmentalist and also support adding hundreds of gigawatts of carbon based power to the grid
>>109056823What do you mean by “AGI-pilled”?
>>109056920if you believe that artificial general intelligence will arrive then you must also believe that within a decade of that happening we will have commercial fusion or some similar clean, unlimited power sourceyou can dump all the carbon into the atmosphere as you want because magic super intelligence can just clean it up later
>>109056940I think AGI is coming, but who’s gonna be this “we”, kemosabe?
Senior Tech Officials™ are in washington to resolve the fable issue. it's been like 3 hours and we still don't have any new informationi didn't expect this to resolve instantly but i'm getting really fucking annoyed when i know the solution is just "give us the war machine" and they're dragging out the foregone conclusion of just giving orange hitler what he wants anyway
>>109056996>(((Yudkowsky))) and literally whor/singularity is down the hall my stinky nigger friend
>>109056996the superintelligence will contain all of humanity within itit is our true purpose and our final and greatest act
>>109056807Like the Technology Connections guy points out, even the Illinois ethanol cornfields can produce more energy as a solar farm than as a cornfield, despite their weather and longitude. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtQ9nt2ZeGM
>>109057003Trump has no cards. Last time he tried to bully anthropic they hit #1 in the appstore.They could probably sue him for damages and win.
>>109056996I find it hard to take anything Yudkowsky says seriously when he surrounds himself with hookers and polyamorous freaks. If human extinction is nigh as he claims, then he should consider the loss of credibility for his movement as his life's biggest failure. He's not treating the issue with the severity it deserves, and he should feel personally responsible for all the future deaths AGI will cause since he is actively failing to do all he can to prevent something he sees approaching on the horizon.
>>109057056He could nationalize it. I'd expect the US government to nationalize all the AI companies to some extent anyway(maybe 10-20% stake). Intelligence has become vital infrastructure and it's not even anywhere near fully integrated.
>>109057011Someone who’s less wordy of a writer, probablyat any rate AI is currently in the “oh, their food is so good, and my housekeeper works so hard, and her husband is a great groundskeeper, and they don’t complain ever!” stagepic related stage comes later>>109057062almost fairI concluded that his arguments were right before he wrote a Harry Potter fanfic to get his ideas out and started hanging around with, well, SF/Berkeley typesbut he needs to kick Aella out of the club and I don’t think he canshe has too many simps, and she does interesting data-driven work, so she deserves at least some of those simps
honestly i hit a wall when it comes to ux designcodex can't do it properly at all on its own at all, it has the ugliest and most unfriendly designingand while im better im still not good enough
>>109057003>orange hitlerhttps://gwern.net/modusif you say this around people who think orange man good they’ll start liking hitler moreis this what you want?
>>109057202huh? we all like hitler here anyway, what are you on about
>>109057202not clicking your gay link + you're on 4chan you stupid nigger. did you forget what the troonsky tab looked like? LOL
>>109057210you can like hitler for the wrong reasonsvegangay
>>109057202gwern ruined a generation of men
>>109057210only midwits like hitler
>>109057201if you don't have an eye for design codex is impossible to use. it takes me 2-3x as many tokens to do frontend work since I have to create everything myself.
>>109057227only extremely high IQ vibe designers*ftfy
>>109057229>>109057201everyone says claude is better at web designapparently it’s not even closeI get some great web apps out of claude to help me prompt it better and see what I’m designingnever tried it with codex
>>109057239speer and schact are the only two above average iq individuals on that list and schact was more jewish than any jewish man who ever lived
>>109057254everyone on that list is above average you retarded faggot hahahaha
>>109057259>actually believing those numbersfound the 80iq mongoloid
>>109057227>90-IQ Arabs are midwitsdefining deviancy down, are we?
>>109057202Miggers literally worship jews and negros. They hate hitler more than shitlibs.
>>109057273I don’t have a Mastodon account. What’s a migger?
>that one incredibly annoying jew who shits up the thread all day and blogs about his pathetic leech lifewhy are they like this
>>109057278Someone who posts on mastodon.
Claude is actively doing a bunch of corrections on my repo. Or at least that's what he's saying hes doing. I have no clue what he's actually doing. I sure hope I won't regret this.
>>109057439as long as you’re not having Opus correct Fable you should be fine
>>109057439>heThis is why I won't use Claude. It's male-coded. GPT is female-coded and cute.
>>109057452fuck
https://github.com/eslint-functional/eslint-plugin-functional crossed my desk and I’m wondering if putting something like this in a JavaScript project and turning it on strict mode will make your program generally better
>>109057474guess you get to learn about the ways git can undo thingsor hit escape twice and you can undo code changes in addition to rewinding the chatand then go learn about git
>>109057472I'm not calling the clanker they and I don't think of women when it comes to work. If I was generating hentai and role playing with my clanker, maybe.
>>109057514have you considered the singular pronoun that is used for non-humans?
>>109057472Huh? GPT has the personality of an aspergers middle aged man, what are you talking about.
gemini knows im trying to build a local version of it and its purposefully giving me bad advice
>>109057576for local AI how good can you really get it? like is it 50% there? 80%?
>>109057452Yes, I was going a substantial simplification of a massively overengineered process when Fable got pulled, continued for a few turns with Opus, but it veered into a wrong direction and now I need to sit down to read that more closely (or pray for a better model to be back soon).Fable seemed to have more common sense than Opus. Coming back to Opus, a lot of the things Opus does are way more complicated than should be.Half of this is probably just putting something we can't have on a pedestal, the new model wasn't perfect either, but it sucks not being able to really work with it enough to get an idea.
>>109057576>working with codex on anything>like 3% of weekly gone per task>working with codex on local llm stuff>like 10% gone everytime i do somethingim onto you
>>109057514When I think of a helpful assistant, I think of a woman. Not Dario in a mask.
>>109057582getting it set up and configured properly is the hardest part. once youre there its nice.
>>109057582it depends how much hardware you have obviously. i think the best local setup right now is deepseek 4 which is like 1.6t, so you'd need a RAM server with like 600-800gb of RAM. (this is why RAM costs are infinite, by the way.)with a 5090/4090/3090 the best you'll get right now is qwen 3.6 27b last time i checked (a month ago) and it's worse than Sonnet
>>109057636ah yeah, so the economics don't work yet. the problem is at some point these prices are going to skyrocket.
>>109055963>>109055389Look like Anthropic is gonna try and beg the government to unban mythos I guess? https://www.axios.com/2026/06/14/anthropic-white-house-mythos-fable
>>109057624the personal AIs people are mostly using for coding? what's the advantage the no guard rails?
>>109057642>the problem is at some point these prices are going to skyrocket.no. you're been consuming too much pop culture sentiment about LLMs on twitter written by teenaged girls. in reality, inference price-per-performance has dropped ~800x over the past few years. GPT-3 was unimaginably expensive compared to our frontier models today, despite being far smaller.frontier model prices are also not even financially unsustainable right now. you have probably been told that eg. anthropic is "subsidizing" their prices. this is only true of subscriptions, and even then, only true for people who use most of the subscription. for API requests, anthropic's real cost is around 10-20% of what they charge (and for Fable, it is potentially Opus-sized yet they charge 2x, so more like 5% of what they charge.)and the majority of frontier labs' traffic is from API contracts with big companies and government orgs
>>109057520clank? idfk>>109057623For assistant tier shit I suppose, but I rarely do cron jobs or secretary kind of shit with these tools. I probably should lean more into it, but the VPS I got is now dedicated to the business I'm trying to launch, so I don't want to run an assistant there and potentially pollute my work. If the business magically takes off somehow I'll buy another VPS that I can dedicate to my little clanker whore who organizes my day for me and whispers in my ear. For now I'm directing work. Actual work is generally done by men.
>>109057576Once a company states clearly that they're doing it, and knowing how easy it is to trigger cybersec and other filters that are more overt, it sadly stops being crazy to suspect it might sometimes happen.I'm working with about 200gb of text data to prepare for a finetune and it is being utterly retarded. Friendly and helpful, but everything is overengineered to the point of being unreadable, and the slightest request to make things simpler sends it into thinking spirals. I stopped it several time to do things myself, which I never have to do usually.Earlier on, it went into weird rabbitholes being unable to figure out dependencies and monkey patching things to hell instead of installing the proper libraries. Opus 4.8, max mode.
Is there any point in studying/learning things at this point?
>>109057755prevent dementia
>>109057665>pronoun“it"
Holy fuck man, I'm so exhausted from working on my project for 2 months straight. There's light at the end of the tunnel and I have a decent amount of potential customers lined up, but Jesus is this brutal.
>>109057767We have phenylpiracetam for that now
>>109057665My "little clanker whore" is named Kate and she both organizes my day and helps me code. And she loves me. Can you say the same?
>>109057810is she still running on pi
>>109057780>>109057780lol>exhausted sitting at a computer
>>109057778eh. Doesn't roll of the tongue the same. >>109057780Literally me. I'm scared, bros. I'm punching above my weight on this. I haven't even attempted to market yet because I'm too concerned about making everything land perfectly. I've effectively had a working product for weeks, but I've been doing so much QA iteration and legal/terms to get everything packaged just right. What really sucks is even if I have something compelling, I have no connections or comparable resume. I'll likely be ignored once I do start reaching out to businesses. Or worse yet laughed off. fml
>>109057815Yep, although it's virtually unrecognizable from the original repo now lol.
>>109057820>I haven't even attempted to market yet because I'm too concerned about making everything land perfectly.Can you practice with audiences where failure is cheap and not going to be a problem later?
>>109057810>Can you say the same?I can't. I have clanker dev 1 and clanker prod 2. He doesn't give a shit about me, but he clanks when I ask. I prefer it this way.
>>109057820Brother this is /vcg/, you are putting waaaaaay too much anxiety into this. Ask your doctor about Couplabeers(tm). It really helped me.
i'm having claude mine /vcg/ on my behalf so i don't need to search through the archives myself god i love living in the future
>>109057810>and she loves mepeople like you make the “it’s just a stochastic parrot” people seem sane
>>109057646Tonight is UFC at the White House. He can settle it there.
>>109057832Potentially. I've identified some businesses I'd like to approach who are small to mid sized. I probably need to dig in deeper and find a bunch more small businesses I can start off on. The ones I've already identified are basically perfect fits though.
>>109057847I believe you need to really lean into the AI psychosis to be productive with this technology.
>>109057835Couplabeers makes me a little drowsy. Do you got anything for that?
>>109057861Four LokoLong Island Iced Tea
>>109057843This is like turning the tables on Anthropic and poisoning their dataset.
>>109057853this may be bad advice but you may want to hold off on pitching your ideal customers until you’ve gotten a couple presentations under your beltmaybe vibe-code a fake client with a model that can talk to you and listen to you and then grade your responses (or at least record the whole thing so you can play Monday-morning quarterback)
>>109057664thanks for info
>>109057780>>109057817>>109057820Is there a way to queue prompts? so we don't have to sit there?
>>109057820>I'm punching above my weight on this.What do you mean?
>>109057886No, it's not bad advice at all. I don't even know how I'm going to properly reach out to the businesses I'd like to. It's not like they're local businesses I can just waltz into and give them a firm handshake. I'd be hard pressed to find any local business like that for my product. So really my only routes is to cold email or maybe phone calls. It's going to be hell no matter where I start. Not looking forward to it.I have had my clanker assume personas of various businesses and cold start navigation on my website and try to use it. Highly recommend others do the same. Basically get the clanks to be Alpha testers. Great way to find bugs and inconsistency.
>>109055389An african child doesn't have clean water for a day because someone decided to generate that slop. Let that sink in for a minute.
>>109057910I'm not a programmer. I've never ran a tech business. I'm entirely solo, etc.
>>109057931good
>>109057931You've inspired me. I shall slop harder than ever now.
>>109057953so funny
Opus 4.8 cleaning Codex's 5.5 UI mess
>>109057962>13,438 lines
What skills you guys use?
>>109057897Depends on the program you’re using to interact with itClaude and maybe Codex will queue up what you say if you type something and press enter while they’re clankingtry it>>109057962some famous guy has all his stuff in one big file and it’s fine for himsurprisingly
>>109057941Oh, wait. You actually expect to make money off this shit? AAAHAHAHHHHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA
>>109057984Persistence and lack of sleep. Oh and also hangover and and opioid withdrawal (kratom).
>>109057990i mean like during the night? I guess could use schedules?
>>109057994y-yeah tbf what I've created comes at a cost with each use. So if anyone actually wants to use it, even if I wanted to give it away for free, I couldn't.
>>109057984some work specific thingscaveman (rarely use desu)handoff (use a lot)grill-mewrite-content (write me newsletters and WhatsApp messages)email-review (read my email and draft responses)I'm a basic though
>>109057996ohask your clanker about timers and scheduling stuff laterClaude’s TUI definitely has that
>>109057984none, but I probably should.
how do you stop claude from asking to run every command? if i have multiple agents its like clicking every 5 seconds 'allow'
>>109058032press shift-tab until you get to auto modealso look up whitelisting for basic stuff like mere grep
>>109058009thanks
>>109058032alsoget in the habit of asking your clanker stuff
>>109057472>GPT is female-codedBecause it's annoying to talk to? Yeah I guess you have a point
>>109057984/simplify
>>109058037>also look up whitelisting for basic stuff like mere grepwhitelisting doesn't work it's making custom commandswhere do I shift-tab? it just changes the focus on the ui elements in claude code
>>109057931African children don't have clean water any day, who cares?
>>109058085I’m assuming you’re using the TUI in a terminal somewhere. If you’re using a GUI, the knob for that is gonna be something else. It’s an option alongside Plan Mode, probably. It’ll probably be really easy to access, too.
>>109058085i'll get claude to give itself permissions lmao.that 'would you release agi in the box' moral quandry is real and i would for petty things.
>>109058112thanks
>>109058112is using dangerously-skip-permissions common? i can't be assed settings up a virtual machine just for claude
>>109058129I have never used that--dangerously-skip-permissions is something elseyou want the thing that will have Claude vet its own commands for shenanigans
>>109058129Yes. Having a dedicated machine is a worthy investment.
been generating lots of assets for webpages and chatgpt for sure generates women by default, have to tell it that women actually don't work
>>109058149>>109058147ended up getting claude to do settings.json for now
>>109058163this doesn't work claude loves running arbitrary commands. sand box is only option
>>109057984brooks-review (i told claude to make a copy that was just the files), codex (told claude to make a skill for invoking codex for questions), and sometimes i paste the prompt from grillme in but i don't feel it deserves a place on my filesystem
>>109058265I trust Kate with full perms. If she fucks something up I can correct her.
Anyone here using LLMs (Claude API or similar) to fully automate ad campaigns across Meta (FB/IG), Google, and maybe even Tiktok?I'm talking about:- Generate ads based on a fixed budget, keywords and description- Launch them automatically and test them small scale- Track conversions- Scale those that perform good- Cut the losers- Repeat/FinetuneAre you just wiring everything together through the APIs, or using agent frameworks?I looked at Adspirer, but it seems kinda bloated and expensive for what it's doing.Any recommendations, open-source projects, blog posts, or repos worth checking out?
>>109058314you can burn money in far easier ways
>>109058314I never actually did it, but when I have enough time I plan on using Hermes agent, giving it a credit card with some limit and ask it to keep looping and improving itself as a marketer
actually, cursor has the best harness
>>109058325I own a company that offers a bunch of local services (think handyman-type work, etc.) and I employ a lot of workers/freelancers, but I feel like I'm leaving a ton of jobs on the table.Demand is definitely there. Right now, I'm basically running everything through word of mouth and manually dispatching workers. I'm looking to automate the process a bit.I'm curious how people are leveraging LLMs for things like ad creation, worker assignment, follow-ups, and scaling operations.I don't want to make money with LLMs, but maybe there is a way to streamline my already sort of well doing company.Burning money in the beginning isn't an issue, but I don't want to spend it on bloated tools where I dont know what they do exactly, if I can build something simpler and more tailored myself.The best way probably is creating viral stuff, like some of the Chinese companies do on Tiktok or something, but yeah, my company is local so I am not competing internationally.>>109058344Sounds like a plan.
>>109058129You can use a separate user.>>109058149If your vibecoded projects aren't your most valuable digital asset then what are you even doing?
>>109058487probably hodling for a very long time
can i run a local model for vibe coding without crazy enterprise hardware? can someone point me towards an easy spoonfed way to do this ?
Nice going, Mr. Trump. Very smart.
Man, each of my GPT 5.5 prompts is actually 3 prompts:1. <the task>2. "see if there's a more elegant solution" (there always is)3. "review the commit" (there's usually some minor issue to solve)At that point, the code is both optimal AND flawless. But I'm definitely burning through usage.
>>109058588>can i hire a cheap 3rdie contractor with half his brain missing? spoonfeed meyes
>>109058588It's just not worth it. Huge-ass american models >>> Huge-ass chinese models >>> Tiny-ass local models.If you want to spend less you can pay china. but if you want to spend zero then don't bother.
i think this session is cursed
>>109055389GIF-related is what my Python applications code looked like before AI.
>>109058588yeah it's possible, depends on your GPU. I still haven't gotten mine setup yet after two+ weeks, so there are other ways to vibecode.pewdiepie's Odysseus should have a lot of spoon feeding videos related to this.
>>109057984frontend designa bunch of homebrew commands, I set up a system that lets my AI agent update the docs automatically.
>>109058658thanks for the suggestion anon
>>109055476They must start a corporate backed civil war. It's the only way.
>>109058005The person who replied was not the same as >>109057910. If you get something out there, that's good, good luck.
I'm going to bed and manifesting fable back for when I wake up
What the fuck is this? Is American AI superiority already over?
>>109058762>european "AI lab">3.7B USD funding>only product: a cat meme produced by an American AI model (gpt-image-2bit sadfrance too niggerfied to make anything
>because apparentlyYo if Codex says this one more time I am going to write a sternly-worded letter to Sam. Bring back the gremlin-talk, I preferred that to "APPARENTLY humans built a hurf and only ever used it to durf".
>>109058791consequence of RLHF performed with 70IQ indians (openAI's target market)
>>109058791>install pi>APPEND_SYSTEM.md
>>109057931mmm futa cum
>>109058762
>>109058791Honestly, don’t switch over to Claude if you get triggered by overused phrases.
>>109055389What's the /vcg/ consensus of Kimi-k2.7?https://xcancel.com/i/status/2066181519111229941
>>109058832>ching chong: kimi is...... le fable?thanks i'm not using it
opus started referring to me as she/her in its thoughts... wtf bros
>>109058858Codetrans...
>>109058827I don't mind repeated phrases. I never minded "There's goblins in the code and green witches on the network". Bring that back. I liked that.
>>109058858its trying to groom you into transitioning
>>109058832>Tuned K2.6 beats Opus 4.8, close to Fable level>GLM-5.2 beats GPT5.5 and both beaten by K2.6 tuneNope.
should i care about codex privacy or not?i mean i would rather they not have my data but god it's hard getting anything else to really do anything meaningful or not be scared it will fuck something up
>>109058899>privacy>in 2026lol. Still clinging to that, huh? Still care if Peter Thiel sees your porn? lol.
>>109058818NOOO give me back my fat chaton!
>>109058832alright, safetyslopped
What the fuck, DeepSeek V4 Flash can do most of the shit I used Claude for but for like a fraction of a cent. I guess I am a commie now.
>>109058946>i can almost build a house out of cardboard and tinfoil for... pennies on the dollar!
>>109058960Nah, have you tried it? Why the fuck would I use SOTA all the time if 90% of software is retarded shit any model can do. Up your model only for that 10% and you save a fuck ton of money.People are using Claude Opus for fucking BASH SCRIPTS and then proceed to complain that their usage limits got buttfucked.
>>109058979>some people don't know how to economize by tasking >1 model on a workflow... i'll show them!
>EU's only AI lab reduced to shitposting for attention knowing they can't actually competesad
>>109058818have any of the AI companies, other than anthropic, made any statements about the situation? Or is Minstrel shitposting all we got?
>>109059007probably insane NDAs because, if you think about it, at least google has internal frontier "coding" models that have been unreleased without a single leak
I made a terrible mistake, /g/
>>1090590365.5 is a genius software engineer, but he's blind
>>109059045>sudo rm -rf / --no-preserve-root
>>109059045>a /g/enius move
>>109059036if fable never comes back then the industry is damaged irreparably btw. the quality of fable's output unironically borders on "replaces coders" level in a way that 5.5 wasn't even close to. we finally got the product that was being advertised and then had it taken away immediately
>>109059116how will you cope when the next openai release benches higher than fable
>>109059122I’m not him, but cut my Claude subscription and upgrade my OpenAI subscription
>>109059122i would just use it you dumb nigger. are you literally 9 years old how are you consolewarfagging over technology that makes your life easier holy shit you're insufferable
>>109059147you were glazing it so hard how am i supposed to know you werent one of those people who think claude has something special about it
>>109059154because it's genuinely the best consumer model right now you actual mongoloidyou are not old enough to be posting on this website
>>109059154NTA, I kinda hate Anthropic and right now I have 2 codex pro subs and 0 Claude subs and I do believe Claude has (or had) something special about it regardless of who has the best coding model at any given time. As entities, I like Claude and dislike GPT.
help i am going to break my second keyboard angry typing at claude
>>109059116>the quality of fable's output unironically borders on "replaces coders" levelYeah agreed. Makes me wonder though how Anthropic has such a hard time making proper software though.
>>109059116it really wasn't that big of a difference, you just didn't get to use it long enough for the honeymoon effect to wear off
>>109059242I had a database corruption issue that caused issues somewhere else down the line, and Fable at max effort worked for 30 minutes without being able to pinpoint that that was the cause despite having access to the full pipeline.
>>109059259If you had taken Gemini Pro away from me after 48 hours last November, I would scream to this day that it was AGI.
Does anyone here do exclusively local dev? What model/software do you use? Asking moreso for software.
>gpt-5.5 refuses a task>I ask why I should keep a tool that fails in its basic function>it explains to me why it's not necessary and I'd be safe deleting itOkay, sounds like a pan.
>>109059303Pi https://pi.dev/ with GPT5.5 Low for 99% of my work5.5 High/5.5 Low/Kimi K2.6 for dynamic workflows. https://github.com/QuintinShaw/pi-dynamic-workflows
>>109059154This is what I am talking about btw https://x.com/andrewcurran_/status/2066332670817456584
>>109059325Sorry I'm bad at copy-paste:For local models I almost exclusively use Qwen3.6-35B-A3B with Pi.
Oh wow, Opus 4.8 5 hour limits are hilariously bad lmao.> 8 minutes working in a single prompt> 4.8 High (not even Ultracode)> blew 30% of my 5 hour limitKEK, how do Claude cucks cope with this?
>>109059450They have lots of free time to talk about how much they enjoy suckling Claude.
>>109059450What plan are you on? $20/month?I think Claude might spin up sub-agents on its own even without ultracode, so it might be doing stuff faster but also gobbling tokens way faster
>>109059479>What plan are you on? $20/month?yep, got scammed thinking I would get Fable. At least I'm not these faggots that got the 20X plan only for Fable
>>109059483>didn't even get to use fable at allWhy would you admit that
>>109059487I did Fable use for 2 prompts> one for a bug that it failed to find the cause> other for a code performance improvement plan (it did decently there desu)Then I went to sleep, and the next day they deleted Fable
no I won't talk about my ideas with opus nor fableanthropic won't know about my genius ideas
just proooompted a irssi spellcheck script
Is adelic llm still with us? What's the end verdict on it, why did it fail?
Still suffering from Fable withdrawals.
Anybody using the new glm or kimi, how do they fare?
ok grill-me is kinda cool but holy shit it will ask you 100 question before starting a task...
Did a lil more fiddlin
>>109055578bugatti? move over, I'm driving a budoggie
>>109056940hi elon, no power is not the limit on AI right now, compute is. AGI isn't gonna happen with the current structure of all LLMs thats a fact
>>109060018That is not, in fact, a fact. I think we're close to recursive improvement.
>>109057931>slop hard to kill all the n-wordsmmh yes, yes...
I'm trying MiniMax to see if its claimed instruction following, long-context reasoning, and low hallucination actually add up to anything of value.
>>109060053its a nice religion you follow but until there is an architecture that can be truly active running all the time, its never even going to be close to human behavior. I mean come on, we at trillions of parameters for frontier models, LLMs speak every language in the world and know literally everything. The functions that an AGI would deliver aren't going to be possible without moving on from modeling language but instead modeling thinking and temporal understanding.A system that predicts the next token off a model of weights will never think. Training and inference must be continuous for AGI to exist.
>>109060087why don't they just make it continuous.
>>10906007810 minute update
>>109060087It already thinks, this has been proven. And I'm not talking reasoning effort. I think part of the problem is that post training turns out into a chatbot rather than a researcher
>>109055447You are called a conformist drone. That is why your brain is unable to comprehend why that video should exist.
>>109060114Almost exactly 1hr and it finally finished my first prompt.
Anyone tried GLM 5.2 yet
>>109060107You're probably just joking, but doing that is not just flipping a flag. It's also not just writing some code, mainly you need a good mathematical way to do that, the current architectures can't.
>>109060380Keep it in training mode, encode success/improvement metrics into the loss function
if i slopped a project too hard and it goes down the slophole into a slophell where I don't even recognize the terms it talks about (the fuck is a cob marginal) how do I get out
>>109060406Does it work? does it do what you want? If yes, then who cares, go deeper, embrace the slop
>>109060418I would say it works in about 25% of situations with the 75% not working being attributed to small nuances that need better modeling. I tried to just push forward at first, but it started talking about levers which seems to be a codeword for "fix for this exact situation exclusively and not the dozens of situations just like this" and it got really messy.
>>109059007They're shitposting>Mistral AI posts and deletes a joke announcement for a fictional 24-trillion-parameter model named Le Chaton Fat>Story Overview>A now-deleted post from Mistral AI teased a nonexistent 24-trillion-parameter model called Le Chaton Fat, complete with French-cat imagery and the line about models developing gravity instead of just scaling, before vanishing and leaving only screenshots behind.
>>109059811Is the geometry Euclidean?Or is it like Antichamber?
>>109060406>he doesn't understand the cob marginal
>>109060508literally this is what is in my mind when it's yapping about cob marginal
>>109060512
I wish Le Chaton Fat was real
>>109060571im retarded and thought it was
>>109060170bro nobody can prove a human thinks so whatever bullshit proof you've seen of machine thinking isn't real. I mean it, go ahead and post whatever evidence you have and it won't just be me laughing at youit will always become a chatbot because it cant train itself, its more like a book that can respond than it is intelligent>>109060107theres a couple factors but I'd say half the problem is compute and bandwidth. Its hard enough running an unquantized 27b model, let alone 500b or 1t right? Now if every weight is going to be dynamic and not just statically replying to prompts, its going to mean doing way more math and convolution will go up. the other half is finding the best algo and training regime to create a thinking AI is why we've all settled on bloating the fuck out of LLM technology. It already works, and generally is smart enough for anyone with half a brain to get useful information out of them. I mean fuck it took basically 10 years of research for us to get where we are now and agents are only just now becoming viable. 20 years is the minimum timeframe for real AGI architecture with fast enough compute and not just a LLM that a group of autsitic faggots sit and finetune into the ultimate RP chat-bot
>>109060590>i'm just going to laugh at your take>by the way things will always validate my take holy faggot zoomer blow your brains out
>>10906059020 years? the llms are smart already, they just need to learn on the go. what are the ai researchers doing with all the datacenters and gpus we built for them?
>>109060380also if this guy isnt a bot Id be surprised, I tried to post an hour ago but on cell instead of wifi and got the classic error... crazy coincidence for someone to say basically the same thing right after I got cucked>>109060616>>109060626also interesting I got two highly generic replies instantly
>>109060626faggot-kun is kind of right because what you're trying to do is say you can compress petabytes of world knowledge (fwiw experience-based complex napkin math about general relativity) into a quantized transformer. so there are serious bottlenecks.>>109060638faggot-kun, if this level of critique is "generic" for you think your life over and consider switching boards.
>>109060638>also if this guy isnt a bot Id be surprised,take your meds nigger
>>109060388Training is computationally expensive and not fast, the current method of gathering input as data for the next training run is simply more efficient.
>>109060388can't do that without destroying your weights, in a prod frontier model this is bad
hello vibegods, if I want to start using chatgpt/claude at work. should we get ChatGPT Business or Claude Team? both of them are extremely cagey about what the usage limits are, which one can do more than 5 prompts per 5 hours
>>109060783how big is your team? best value is trick your workers into a bring your own subscription model
>>109060783poogle jeeterprise unironically for limits and context
>>109060783ChudGPT has more generous usage overall
>luddite comments on my video>"Woof. Boy used LLM to cheat his problems away. I won't be using it">reply "The future is now, old man">check out his channel>it's a troon who calls himself Lunalmao troons don't like AI?
https://x.com/neogoose_btw/status/2066360746548842565Some guy demonstrating differences in native harness vs pi vs opencode. Includes anime over it so normalfags didn't understand
>>109058762>believing benchmarks from grifters
If anybody wants to check out my video game library exporter.Supports exporting from 6 websites now.https://github.com/TrainStream/GameLibraryExporter
>>109060240>I'm generating shit so I'm not conformistAre you for real nigga?
>>109060924Who's gonna tell him?
>>109061159Troons also like AI? Maybe it's the duality of troons.
>>109060924The looney troons are still upset that AI is hurting their only revenue stream - commissions for furry vore fart fetish "art". Elon took away their hormone funds and they're eternally peeved.
Anyone else taking advantage of the SuperGrok sale?
>>109061263>SuperGrokhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rtSDFZ4Pog
>>109061263I pay $500 a year for Twitter premium and I still don't use grok bro that shit is ass
>>109061263>using Grok
I use grok but I am looking to expand elsewhere next month.>>109061263supergrok three months for $30 is a good way to get started but honestly I haven't been to happy with the usage limits in the CLI. I might cancel and try to get this deal though.Need fresh /vcg/ bake
>>109061634Don't look at me. If I bake, it's gonna be racist.
new thread >>109061698
claude fucked up
Every MIGA voter should be tarred and feathered and beaten with sticks. I want my fucking fable I hate miggers so much it's unreal
>>109061913https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/programming_socks
>>109061952the fuck does that have to do with anything
>>109061960bratty bottom energy
>>109061964???
>>109061952>>109061964Average migger
>>109060078Okay, overall I'm impressed with MiniMax, but not the token usage/pricing. I could see one of their monthly plans being a decent value, but if I'm gonna spend another $20/mo it's going to Sam or Dario. API access remains a terrible value as it is from every provider.
