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Hosting edition.

>Free beginner resources to get started with HTML, CSS and JS
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Learn - MDN is your best friend for fundamentals
https://web.dev/learn/ - Guides by Google, you can also learn concepts like Accessibility, Responsive Design etc
https://eloquentjavascript.net/Eloquent_JavaScript.pdf - A modern introduction to JavaScript
https://javascript.info/ - Quite a good JS tutorial
https://flukeout.github.io/ - Learn CSS selectors in no time
https://flexboxfroggy.com/ and https://cssgridgarden.com/ - Learn flex and grid in CSS

>Resources for backend languages
https://nodejs.org/en/learn/getting-started/introduction-to-nodejs - An intro to Node.js
https://www.phptutorial.net - A PHP tutorial
https://dev.java/learn/ - A Java tutorial
https://rentry.org/htbby - Links for Python and Go
https://quii.gitbook.io/learn-go-with-tests - Learn Go with Tests

>Resources for miscellaneous areas
https://github.com/bradtraversy/design-resources-for-developers - List of design resources
https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials - Usually the best guides for everything server related

>Need help? Create an example and post the link
https://jsfiddle.net - if you need help with HTML/CSS/JS
https://3v4l.org - if you need help with PHP/HackLang
https://codesandbox.io - if you need help with React/Angular/Vue

/wdg/ may or may not welcome app development discussion. You can post and see what the response is. Some app technologies of course have overlap with web dev, like React Native, Electron, and Flutter.

We have our own website: https://wdg-one.github.io

Submit your project progress updates using this format in your posts, the scraper will pick it up:

:: my-project-title ::
dev:: anon
tools:: PHP, PostgreSQL, etc.
link:: https://my.website.com
repo:: https://github.com/user/repo
progress:: Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet

Previous: >>109005588
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reminder that installing and updating stuff from pnpm, pypi, cpan, luarocks is like sticking your dick in an AIDS hole
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>>109057105
As long as you stick to popular and trustworthy packages you're probably fine
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>>109057105
>>109057120
I have added this to all my .yarnrc.yml files in every project to feel a bit safer
npmMinimalAgeGate: 1d
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>>109057120
yes popular and trustworthy packages that wouldn't work without 6 million other popular and trustworthy packages, some with the authors having compromised github credentials through malicious vscode extension
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start using asp.net and stop procrastinating
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>>109057383
Thanks Satya
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This seems quite cool, Apple has made their own thing similar to WSL on Windows, allowing for lightweight Linux VMs. Good for web dev when you want a Linux VM which mirrors your production server.

https://github.com/apple/container
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>>109057081
DO is like 80% dotheads right
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>>109057081
Total JS victory
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>>109058222
isn't Docker using it by default on macOS?
I might be wrong here but I think I heard something about this
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>>109059996
Maybe Docker is using some virtualisation stuff built into MacOS. But this new thing from Apple seems to be an alternative to Docker I guess, because it can run Docker images, and it can also function similarly to WSL. In the docs it says you can create a VM based on the Alpine Docker image, and then launch a shell for that VM, with these commands:
>container machine create alpine:latest --name dev
>container machine run -n dev
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>>109060479
that's really neat, need to check it out
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>>109057171
>age of consent for packages
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>>109057081
Why in some frameworks edits to .css files take ages to become effective?
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>>109060497
lmao gave me a chuckle
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>>109060762
Really depends on how the css is being loaded and hot refreshed: i.e. all in a single bundle vs multiple .css files, and the loading strategy can be influenced on the css processor plugin and framework.

Some frameworks have different loading strategies for CSS based on dev vs production. e.g. dev loads multiple files vs production all in one file, but that can be a huge issue because CSS prescedence might mean inconsistent styles applied in dev vs production, so some fw's try to use make it as close to production bundling as possible while still keeping hot reloading viable.
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are there any good places for advertising your hobby website?
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>>109057081
RIP budget hosting

https://docs.hetzner.com/general/infrastructure-and-availability/price-adjustment
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>>109061345
I've seen threads here from time to time for posting personal websites. I wouldn't want people knowing I post here though. Plus I don't know what kind of random asshole would shit up my contact forms.

Maybe Reddit or Hackernews?
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>>109062000
It's over, billions must pay

I was looking at VPS prices the other day and I noticed they've gone up in price
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>>109059996
>>109060479
>Dilder
Fucking hate it, useless hipster garbage.
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>>109062071
Is that assembly in the background?
Job market sux.
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>>109062012
>I wouldn't want people knowing I post here though.
yeah that's my thinking as well
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>>109057081
I've been reanimating the corpse of a long-dead social media site. I've scraped the wayback machine, old files I saved, screenshots and YT videos to get the layout.
It's been pretty fun! The arcane HTML and JS is straightforward to understand, if a little inelegant.
I'll launch it once I've implemented enough features to be launch-able.
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>>109062790
Looks like it from wap internet age.
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>>109061345
>are there any good places for advertising your hobby website?
I posted here
https://www.reddit.com/r/webdev/comments/1tylo8l/showoff_saturday_checkout_my_4chan_style/
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>>109063186
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I hate reddit so fucking much. Site looks neat though, but I'm not an anime fan.

Also I see a lot of "we" and "us". Is it really a team? Or is it just you?
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>>109063260
>I hate reddit so fucking much.
Yeah, but it's one of the few places where you can some visibility for free. I got 52k views on that post, it's not much but it's something
>Also I see a lot of "we" and "us". Is it really a team? Or is it just you?
It's just me, I just thought that wording sounded better
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>>109063300
Nice. Yeah it can be hard to get your stuff seen and know.

What's your racism, antisemitism, and other hatred policy? I don't see anything specific in the rules. I've been looking for a place that's slightly less than 4chan with respect to that stuff, but where fun isn't illegal.
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>>109063331
I mean, I support the 1st amendment 100% but unfortunately in 2026 you always rely on third parties that will take you down if you start making too much noise.
I'm fine with the website having these discussions, but I don't really have a /pol/ board and I wouldn't want people inciting violence and this sort of thing in the /general/ board
>I've been looking for a place that's slightly less than 4chan with respect to that stuff, but where fun isn't illegal.
Feel free to join, you can post without making an account and I'm always free for feedback
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>>109062071
you will never be a WEBMASTER@domain.com tasked to restart httpd every 2 weeks (savior, essential, irreplaceable, domain expert, professional, computer scientist, php guru)
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>>109062952
https://www.developershome.com/
retrvrn

*linkingpark-jayz_numb_encore.3gp starts playing*
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>>109064132
3gp, now there's a throwback. I think I still have pixelated abominations of questionable youthful antics buried somewhere thanks to it
>>109062790
https://www.wegoback.net/ is the current splash page, please enjoy the entertainment while we continue the necromancy in the background
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>>109062790
>>109065059
What back-end stack will you use lad
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>>109057081
why is there no ruby in the OP?
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>>109061345
possibly still Reddit but my god there's so many apps being shilled on there and they all get torn apart and accused of vibe coding by default, they've gotten very picky lately. then again for all I know maybe there's 10 prospective users for every 1 angry nerd comment.

I'm wondering if making a YouTube video demo or a Twitter pitch would be better, big potential reach (algorithm willing) with less snarky fedoras
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>>109057081
Hetzner raised prices by 2x lmaooo
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Finished reading the Elm and the The Composable Architecture docs. I am halfway through the Replicant docs.
You're not offloading all your learning to Sam Altman's silicon golem are you Anon?
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>>109065391
Ruby isn't that popular these days
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>Linode vs. IONOS
Why are the prices so crazy different? What am I missing?
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>>109067845
dedicated vs VPS, those are different products
though Linode has always been a mainstream vendor where you spend a bit more for the big name
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>>109065298
ASP.NET + Razor pages. I've found it fairly easy to put the recovered HTML into Razor as templates, pull missing assets from the links in CSS files and grab those from the wayback machine, it all slots in nicely just needs a bit of cleaning up!
Then doing the logic in proper .NET style + EF for DB. Sensible types, as I know it best.
Going to add a signup form to the splash later today - PHP will be enough for that.
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>>109067868
Even the shared CPU versions have a crazy difference in price. I guess it really is just brand name?
I'm not really sure what the difference is with VPS vs dedicated. Wouldn't the Linode offering just be a VPS with a dedicated CPU?
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>>109067920
VPS is timesharing: the vendor has a fleet of big machines and carves it up into tiny slices for resale. This is convenient since you can buy small slices but occasionally leads to inconsistent performance. Whereas dedicated rental is kinda more like a personal pizza than a slice, at least the capacity is reserved and won't be pushing with neighbors.
Linode's price is typical for their market segment; their main competition (DigitalOcean) also starts at $5/1GB.
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>>109068084
It sounds like the "shared CPU" offering would be equivalent to the VPS that's offered much cheaper elsewhere. I'm used to seeing razor thin margins and prices being pretty competitive when it comes to stuff like this.
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>>109068100
sure, but these IANUS folks look like no-names. $2/1gb is cheaper than usual (~$3) for a lowendbox but you're locked in for 3 years. The big boys do $5/1gb but they charge by the hour, have a long reputation, and offer other cloud products (data storage, CDN, networking etc.)
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>>109067845
>with a 3 year term
Uh your eyes?
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>>109067920
I guess the difference between VPS prices for those two companies is because the Ionos price requires a 3 year commitment.
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>>109066911
Other VPS prices I've looked at recently have risen. Fucking AI company bastards driving up the price of hardware.
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>sloppers ruin personal computing
>sloppers ruin cheap vps hosting
you don't hate slopjeets enough
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>>109071495
>also poisons your water
>also drives up your utility bills
>also ruins your job (whether it's layoffs or just the job being shittier)
>also floods your hobbies with slop content
>also gives your family and friends psychosis
there now i hate them the correct amount
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>>109072172
>also doesn't provide any value
the cherry on top
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>>109072195
I think they provide some value. I can usually get answers to programming questions quicker with an LLM than with Stack Overflow.
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lol



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