Do you think that RAM prices will collapse soon-ish, or should I bite the bullet and buy overpriced DDR5 for my computer?
>>109058102Wow, FREE delivery!
>>109058102all of that depends on how the industry goes. i think its doubtful ram will stay absurdly expensive forever but i assume it will still go up for a while, and all of that depends too on whether AI crashes and burns, soft recalibrates, or continues the hype train forever
>>109058102this sort of thing has happened before in the early days of DIY. the pendulum swings.
>>109058102But ram is useless it's all about vram
>>109058102>Do you think that RAM prices will collapse soon-ishNo.It is quite literally impossible for them to drop at all regardless of AI demand before the US changes government because the current US government is not interested in investigating the cartel.Also not a single company has actually increased production so even if we see a reduction in AI demand we still have years of regular consumer demand to meet.TL;DR you will never see affordable computer parts again in your lifetime
>>109058102Absolutely not. Just wait for DDR6 to hit shelves in 2028-2029, they're already working on them
>>109058188DDR4 prices are just as bad.Even DDR3 prices are terrible.Adding more fragmentation to a market that can't even meet 20% of the demand will not improve prices
Not soon-ish, former Samsung executive says around 2028 until CXMT can produce enough.https://www.notebookcheck.net/Ex-Samsung-exec-says-Chinese-DRAM-could-end-shortage.1302100.0.html
>>109058102>>109058173before AI boom: memory prices were cyclicalafter AI boom: don't hold your breath until 2030 lmao
>>109058102>$29999999$99fuck
>>109058102They'll either drop sharply or decline. Sorry kikes, but nothing lasts forever and no amount of histrionic screeching, anti-semitism accusations and ADL summoning will change that (Although I don't know what the yellow kikes in SK do instead of summoning the ADL).
>>109058185Chip companies don't work like that, they sell production years in advance, if the production hasn't increased is because there is no demand for it, I will let you fill in the blanks as to why.
The AI debt will consume most big businesses, they will start giving away these sticks soon
>>109058102if you werent stacking MU and other manufacturers since january at the very least this is all on you. free money and free ram just for patience and seeing a bunch of r*dditors act like the sky is falling while asking why nobody DOES SOMETHING about it. sold half a bit ago and now flipping ram for more dosh.
>>109058102dont care, just waiting for prime day
>>109058770Because all RAM companies HAD increased production with the assumption that jeets will buy one billion iphones. It didn't happen obviously, can't afford one.
>>109058102Before things get better things are going to have to get a whole lot worse to the extent of people dying. Buckle up.
>anon still hasn't setup his DIY ramkit constructors in his stinky bedroomngmi
>>109058102people are rightfully pointing out the rise of the AI bubble, but there's more to it. the US and china are still in a trade war, the media has just stopped talking about it because president orange has moved onto iran.even if the chips are made in taiwan, at least some of the raw material is coming from china: they're deeply embedded in the world's supply chain and cutting them out would require inter-generational systemic change. RAM may never go down, even after the AI bubble pops, and some pro-chinese shill becomes president. the chinese remember and they are mad, and they don't need us anymore.MRAM is also on the rise, as are stackable monolithic 3D chips, new battery technologies, spintronics, photonic computing. that's ignoring quantum BS which will probably be in the domain of big business for the next 50 years. but some of this shit is probably a decade away, but it's going to up-end the market when it happens. all of the little countries are on a race to make it first and patent it. whoever develops better manufacturing plants first will probably win though, rather than through technological innovation.either way, right now the biggest consumers of RAM are big business and governments, so you're being priced out because of demand, not supply. wait for demand to die down, ideally once AI gets sued for copyright or libel and the endeavor becomes a lot less fruitful.
it has very little or nothing to do with a trade war.fabs switched over to hbm because the margins are fat, much better than with consumer dram. why would anyone willingly stick to selling products with lower profitability when they can sell a product with substantially higher profitability? that's not a cabal or monopoly.
Once they get done building all the data centers everybody is going to realize that they don't need the data centers because local models are good enough. Then there will be another price hike as a decade's worth of delaying upgrading finally forces people to all upgrade simultaneously and all the chips that went into the data centers are rendered worthless. Then the government is going to bailout the people who engineered this mess so they can do it again later and people are going to yet again swear that they're going to vote for the opposite of team red or blue that is in power at the time.By the time this is all over the "normal" price of ram is going to be double due to inflation.
>>109059387why can't consumer hardware just switch to HBM?that's the real question
>>109059478forgot pic, aura loss
>>109059493>>109059478forbidden tech
>>109058102I think it will eventually settle at double of the pre-bubble prices instead of the quadruple or quintuple that they hit at the peak.
>>109058102Sorry, still seems to be sometime next year, give or take a couple months.
>>109058102they say the worst as yet to come
No. If Ram price collapses the powers that be will make something else much more expensive.Subscription computing is coming by 2030 and there is nothing you can do.
>>109058102Things are only going to get more expensive. You'll be priced out of owning hardware soon.
>>109058102I think you should stfu about ram prices already
>>109058102Prices are gonna keep going up for a few years until new chip fabs are built and running. Then it should stabilize a bit and could drop if data center build out and AI hype slows or we just get much more efficient models. But it's unlikely prices drop any time soon unless China can somehow build their own ASML competitor and chip city in a year.
>>109061139I call bullshit, glownigger.
>>109061139There are thousands of old "obsolete" machines out there that are perfectly functional if you're not a "gaymer"
>>109058102> sudden IPO rush> Fabble 5 was a nothing burger, despite being larger> diminishing returns point reached> still not profitable long term> each new model iteration gets more hallucinations %> AHI (Artificial Habsburg Intelligence) is already here.> no real innovations since 2024, besides benchmaxing> plagiarized harness scripts and MCP trash from random public github repos (LMAO) are presented as frontier AI companies' biggest innovations of 2025> openclaw and hermes are biggest tokenmaxing scam since (((reasoning)))> nobody is buying ((((((looping)))))), they got too cocky with that oneWhat do you think?
>>109058922>they don't need us anymoreBy pure accident USA haz the only quartz mine in the world that provides raw material with necessary initial purity to allow growing sufficiently clean silicon crystals for moern techprocess (all that fancy 2nm stuff and not only that).By pure ingenuity Europe has the only industry capable of producing the well known ASML machine.By pure dedication to high tech Taiwan is the place when it all comes together.China is basically yet another mine. In the same way Russia and USA are similar. Both are oil stations basically, that is their main revenue.
>>109058102Per TB must be $10 or less and it shouldn't cost more than $500 to build a PC to average 120 FPS on the latest AAA games. Anyone who complains about this is a Jew or a Jewish cattle.
>>109058102Prices will never go down—consumer RAM will not be manufactured at all within four years; only RAM for AI and RAM for devices.
>>109064449>Jewish cattlesays the guy wanting to play AAA sloppa
>>109064460Nowhere in the post did he say he wants to play it.You outed yourself as a Jew for lying like a retard.
>>109064492nice pilpul
>>109064539>>109064460>Jews are so despised they accuse their enemies of being them I don’t think it’s going to work anymore moishi, must not feel great acknowledging that you’re a worm
>>109064438Europe has the ASML contract because of the USA, they are leasing the rights to the intellectual property. The whole thing is a glowie op though
>>109064438China sells plenty of machinery now
>>109064695Yeah, yeah. To 3rd world. At the same time buys high end models from Japan and Germany. And to even make that cheap 3rd world machinery they probably buy Swiss equipment, to be able to produce even that.>>109064685>Europe has the ASML contract because of the USASure m8, it's not like half of Europe is involved in manufacturing those. It's just USA's whim, of course.
>>109058102Prices are already coming down steadily. We told you it was going to be short term pain for a long term benefit. Have patience.
>>109064772what's the "long term benefit" exactly
>>109064772No they aren't
