>>109059444
I switched from Win10 to linux. First tried something, didn't like it, then tried Bazzite, fuck that, tried Nobara and liked it. There have been a few bumps with upgrades but things have settled down and it's been smooth for a while now.
5600x+3090

>>109059474
oh I should add I don't do any online competitive multiplayer shit, so don't know about that. I hear anti-cheats are a problem with linux.

>>109059444
>Do any anons use linux full time for gaming
Yes
>and if so what OS and Desktop Environment?
I use Tumbleweed KDE but it could be anything with KDE, that's where the user experience mostly comes from. Tumbleweed just supports KDE well and stays up to date which helps with gayming. My friend uses Bazzite and plays games just fine.
>>109059477
I play Overwatch and Helldivers 2 and Diablo IV in multiplayer just fine. It's not an issue by default, it's more like an exception. Except with battle royale games which I think all of them block Linux.

>>109059474
>>109059477
Interesting. Fedora was by far the best experience I had (Nobara is Fedora based I guess). But even then some games would crash with no indication regardless of DE. It would even happen with singleplayer games and games with native linux ports by valve themselves. It could have something to do with my hardware but I have an AMD GPU and my games work fine on Windows of course. What games did you play?

>>109059492
yeah, nobara is fedora plus some gaming optimizations, so I'm happy to have the maintainer do that and not deal with it myself.

Teardown
RUNNING TRAIN
Just Cause 3
The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim Special
Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell
Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory
Where Winds Meet
Halo: The Master Chief Collection
Halo Wars: Definitive Edition
Spelunky
Wings of Prey: Special Edition
Sekiro™: Shadows Die Twice
Half-Life 2
Assassin's Creed Origins
Black Myth: Wukong
Black Mesa
Portal
Valkyria Chronicles ™
Half-Life

This is over the past year. The only tricky bit was modding Skyrim, you have to mess around a bit for that. But everything else has worked right from the install I think, at least I don't remember having to do anything.

dwm with no compositor is the best for gaming. it prevents any software from interfering with the game window which could cause glitches

>>109059444
Objectively, 10/10 faggot. Linux? Unstable in games? Wtf am I reading. Even saying it's slower would be more realistic (it's not until you're fucking around). Linux is so stable in games that notoriously crashy games on windows work without a single hiccup in linux, it literally "repairs" broken games (because the stubs have better recovery, it's not magic).

>>109059444
>Do any anons use linux full time for gaming and if so what OS and Desktop Environment?
my desktop is purely for gaming and I never had any issues, but I must say I am not playing the latest and greatest AAA titles but WoW, Star Wars:Fallen Order, Detroit:Become Human, L4D2 and stuff like this.
Am on Arch + GNOME + Nvidia. No problems at all for 8 years now.

>>109059816
I think it might be because of HDR. Im gonna give it another shot without that. Otherwise it's probably some other weird issue only I have. You are right though it always seemed great before but I wasn't doing a lot of heavy gaming until recently so maybe I just got unlucky. Gotta say I'm relieved to see this is just a me issue.
>>109059833
>Am on Arch + GNOME + Nvidia. No problems at all for 8 years now.
Wow I would have never expected a combo like that to work well but thats great news if true.

>>109059444
On a scale of 1-10 how much of a faggot am I for this?
8?

I know there are problems with games using kernel level garbage and I can understand that people are frustrated because "muh i want play valorant", but just think about it: Do you want to play a game which restricts where you can play it? I would not want to, this shit glows.

Also as some here pointed out, there are a lot of multiplayer games which work very great (Overwatch for example).

> what OS and Desktop Environment
It does not matter, every Linux is the more or less the same. Distros just preinstall some software and eventually change some kernel configs, just make sure to install proprietary gpu drivers and wayland (gtfo xlibre retards) and read your distros wiki for installing steam (because it depends on 32bit libraries) and eventually other stuff, sometimes it's just one command and done, but sometimes 2 or 3.

> Do you think Linux is ready for gamers to make the switch
Linux is ready, but the people are not

> Should I consider trying out Linux again
yes and stop thinking it's windows, it may look not very different from "above", but it's a whole different system with different concepts and other ways to do something. Thats what these wiki- and manpages are for, the meme is real.

I'm using Archlinux with hyprland (i fucking hate myself for this, but it works) and never experienced issues playing single and multiplayer games.

I use arch and I never experience issue with the games I play, like never ever.

>>109059979
>yes and stop thinking it's windows, it may look not very different from "above", but it's a whole different system with different concepts and other ways to do something. Thats what these wiki- and manpages are for, the meme is real.
Real. I mean no yeah I am a pretty experienced Linux user and I have no problem reading the wikis and manpages and in the past I was fine but I think I burned myself out from being too much of a tinkerfag. I used to be an Arch user myself with DWM for about a year. That being said it seems like I am just overthinking it because I'm an OCD retard. I re-installed Fedora after making this thread and it's like being home again. Whatever the issue I was having with muh games must not really be a Linux issue.
>Linux is ready, but the people are not
I think we are getting close. The tipping point will come any day now.
>I'm using Archlinux with hyprland (i fucking hate myself for this, but it works) and never experienced issues playing single and multiplayer games.
>I use arch and I never experience issue with the games I play, like never ever.
I'm rejoiced to hear this fellas

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I will additionally add that when I went back to Windows I fully expected old visual novels to be easy to setup and play but I was wrong. They are way easier to setup and run on Linux in Lutris/Bottles/Wine.

>>109059444
You're already a full blown faggot for switching to Win11 after Linux. Holy shit, you should have switched to a rope.

Having a decent time on linux (cachy) for the past 6 months, but I'm also not doing anything too spicy just playing games via steam or heroic since it's my gaming machine. No issues with DRM thus far, just anti-cheat and hopefully that gets better.

Fedora atomic with KDE and 5060 ti
Most games work and I have no issues with stability. I mainly play endfield and indie games. On my last PC with arch and a 1070 I had a lot of system freezes but I can go months on this one

>>109059444
I have about 50 bideo games installed. The only one that flat out refused to work was Inside, and the only one who had weird troubleshooting was Dishonored (had to lock fps to 90 or physics would glitch out).
I guess you’ll struggle if you’re playing online games but for me the transition from winblows to linux was fairly painless. In some ways it’s better than winblows, such as being able to play truly ancient shit that winblows no longer runs without extra troubleshooting, like Shogo that I played as a tiny kid

>>109060234
using fedora kde, switched around august last year
9800x3d + 4070ti

>>109059444
Die gaymer die.

>>109059444
I've been using Arch + KDE full time for a while now. All my gaymes just work between Steam, Heroic and Faugus (which is better than Lutris). The only online multiplayer thing I play is WoW though and that works flawlessly on Linux. Every complaint I had that was stopping me making the switch full time has now been resolved, including being able to undervolt Nvidia cards now using the exact same voltage curve system as Afterburner on Windows.

I used it for almost a year
Running games is really not that much of a problem, it's just things surrounding it. Suddenly a mod doesn't work anymore on anything other than windows because the developers are not windows friendly and they can't figure out an error that only happens on WINE. Suddenly I have to figure out how to get the retarded specific dated build of proton (or build one myself with the fix which is a pain in the neck) to get a very specific hardware feature work on a very specific game. If I want HDR it's all a compromise built upon having to use crashy gamescope because wine on wayland is something Valve doesn't seem to have under control enough that they can't figure out how to display a fucking overlay and support steam input. Ever since I got the steam controller I am less in pain on Windows which to me is remarkably stupid, considering how often I've heard of people say that the best platform for the controller was linux. I even needed to run a specific set of commands on launch for steam not to show a fucking popup everytime I touched a trackpad.
But that's besides a lot of other shit I've experienced month after month where I must have dealt with 40 different workarounds for shit that should just at this point in time work out of the box. Maybe Valve should work harder on getting their own shit (the steam client) to work 100% on the platform they are actually promoting, for starters.

>>109059444
>Do any anons use linux full time for gaming
Yes, I do.
>and if so what OS and Desktop Environment?
Arch with Plasma.
>Do you think Linux is ready for gamers to make the switch?
Yes but also no. It depends on the users taste in games. I would never again subject myself to Windows at this point, so my taste in games is going to morph to whatever I can play on Linux and games that I cannot play simply don't exist anymore. I gave Windows over a decade to get better and it never did, I've given up for good.
>Should I consider trying out Linux again?
You do you.

>>109059444
Previously I used fedora kde on 9070xt but it has some problems for the compositor. So I moved to cachy and it just works greatly. Currently it has an aur infection problem though lol.

>>109059444
>On a scale of 1-10 how much of a faggot am I for this?
7, at least use Windows 10 LTSC.
>Do any anons use linux full time for gaming and if so what OS and Desktop Environment? Do you think Linux is ready for gamers to make the switch?
Yes, except this time actually learn the system, try to fix issues yourself and use X11.

Every single player game I've played works fine, I play Counter Strike and it works fine. The only game I've come across that wouldn't play was PUBG because it has kernel level anti-cheat. Oh well, I'm not a big PUBG player anyway.

>what OS and Desktop Environment?
Devuan and Trinity

gaming on linux is gaming alone. those people have no friend to play with.

>>109059444
idk man for me it works, been 9 years now i use artix with xfce, r5 1600x and rtx a4000, completed re9 few weeks ago, now waiting for alien isolation 2

>>109059444
IDK I don't really play games often but MGSV and Blue Archive work flawlessly for me

>>109059444
>Do any anons use linux full time for gaming and if so what OS and Desktop Environment?
Yes, been using Linux as my only desktop OS for about 6 years now, doing all my gaming on it. Currently running Arch + dwm.

>Do you think Linux is ready for gamers to make the switch? Should I consider trying out Linux again?
For most people, I think Linux is enough for gaming. There are still a few issues with some anti-cheat games, but they're the exception rather than the rule. The multiplayer games I play on Linux are CS2 and whatever friendslop me and my friends feel like playing, never had any issue with those. But you might have issues with whatever online game you enjoy.
I think it's worth giving Linux another shot. There will obviously be problems, but any OS will have problems as none of them are perfect. Both Linux and Windows gave me headaches, I just prefer to deal with Linux's problems than Windows'. They're less frequent, and often have fixes if you're willing to read manuals/wikis and tinker with the system. As other anons have said, keep in mind Linux isn't Windows, don't come expecting things to be exactly the same. Some things will be similar, others will be wildly different. Try Linux with the mindset of expecting everything to be different, this way you'll be pleasantly surprised at the things that are similar, and be expecting to learn the things that are different. It's also just fun to learn something new, break things and fix them in the process. I think you'll have a good time if you're willing to put in the effort, Anon. Best of luck to you!

>>109060099
hey, i have some problems with visual novels(not only old one). can you please share your setup? what distro do u use, which proton, etc. thank you

>>109060772
How's Trinity? I've been considering giving it a go. I didn't try Linux until KDE 5 was already out so I never got to truly understand what made KDE 3 so great.

>>109061198
not him but kde 3.x is what got me into linux, and kde 4.x is what got me into bare WMs

>>109061198
It's probably one of the best desktops Linux has, but a little rough around the edges without an autistic level of tinkering.

>>109059444
>On a scale of 1-10 how much of a faggot am I for this?
I want to say 10, but if your most important use case is gayming - 1.
>Do any anons use linux full time for gaming and if so what OS and Desktop Environment?
Just Fedora KDE, or go with Nobara/Bazzite, ready for gaming.
>Do you think Linux is ready for gamers to make the switch?
Yes, I mean Steam Deck/Frame/Machine/OS are a thing now. But it really depends on your Games. I personally play Valve Slop like CS2 and Deadlock, or Marvel Rivals with Friends, some fighting games etc. And for single player stuff I don't worry at all, Emulation works great and I don't have any problems with other SP Games.
>Should I consider trying out Linux again?
Riot, CoD or other Kernel Anti Cheat Games? Then no. But I genuinely prefer Linux, I can't use Windows anymore, Imagine you press "Run as admin" on a cracked game. I love Linux, I feel secure, private and it's just a joy to use, except you only want to run windows software and kernel malware games.

No Linux is not ready for anything least of which for gaming. "Linux" is not a platform in the first place. It's a fragmented ecosystem, Android is Linux, technically. Is Android ready for PC gaming? probably not. Are generic Linux distributions ready for gaming? probably not either because they use random community components like different init systems and display servers and an unstable glibc that breaks compatibility. What happens when a distribution uses a different init system where some Linux software depends on systemd? It doesn't work is what happens.

Linux is not an OS, it's not even a stable platform for anything. You want a specific Linux based OS that offers a stable API and ABI for the PC platform. Which currently doesn't exist.
So no, "Linux" is not ready for anything.

>>109061662
all of this autistic screeching when I can launch 99.9% of Steam games just fine

>>109061694
Until something breaks due to incompatibility with some random shit your distro did.
Why do you retards get defensive instead of building a Linux based OS with a stable ABI/API from the get go instead? You just need one PC Linux OS that doesn't source its components from the fragmented ecosystem. What Android did but for PC.

>>109061723
I don't have this problem on NixOS.

>>109061735
NixOS has 0 backwards compatibility.

>>109061723
>NOOO YOU CANT GAME YOU WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO GAME NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I SAID SO ITS NOT READY
>W-W-W-WHAT Y-YOUR VIDYA WORKS PERFECTLY FINE CURRENTLY??? IT WONT TOMORROW IT WILL BREAK EVERYTHING WILL BREAK
>OK MAYBE NOT TOMORROW BUT NEXT MONTH IT WILL BREAK FOR SURE
>OK MAYBE NOT NEXT MONTH BUT NEXT YEAR FOR SURE
>OK M-AAAAAAAAAAAAACK!!
Shills are getting really pathetic lol

>>109061749
Except nothing works longterm though? because everything is incompatible by nature.
Why so blatantly dishonest.

>>109061765
Incredible how you can call my post dishonest when your whole argument rests on treating updates and debilitating software incompatibilities as one and the same. You should genuinely end your life as quickly as possible, it will be the greatest gift you will ever be able to offer to mankind.

>>109061723
My distro doesn't do random shit, it's Arch.

>>109061786
>Incredible how you can call my post dishonest when your whole argument rests on treating updates and debilitating software incompatibilities as one and the same.
That's not what I said, you're putting words in my mouth. You're a retarded liar.

>>109061791
Arch is the most random Linux distribution. updates literally break the bootloader since the entire "OS" identity rests on constant updates and makes no effort to distinguish the base OS from the user application layer.

Arch (and Artix) is the worst way to build an OS. rolling release on its own is not a bad idea, but the way Arch does it is bad and breaks everything all the time.

>>109061791
>>109061806

More broadly, Arch is random by definition because it doesn't have a stable component system. It borrows from the community, today it uses something like systemd (which some software might rely on) some other time it might use a different init system. There is no coherence.
This isn't about Arch only, I'm just saying that generic Linux distributions all do this. It's not exactly an easy problem to solve, because it will always be easier to borrow from the fragmented ecosystem. Again I don't fault the generic distros too much.

What the real issue is, is why hasn't anyone so far stepped up to create a self-sourced Linux OS that offers OS/Application separation (Flatpaks are a bad attempt at this) and a stable ABI/API. Like what Google did with Android, except something more open than Android for but PC.

5900x
3070ti 8gb
I swapped my win10 daily driver to Arch (Cachyos) because I'm a normalfag.
Playing path of exile 2
Rift breaker with friends
Smash PM EX REMIX over dolphin netplay. (The file system was a little fucked for saving custom controller configs, but I got it working in like 10mins)
Rift breaker once broke when I updated something, so I just reinstalled it and it worked again.
My spare ubuntu
1070
I7 6700
I've played a variety of things on. FFX HD was too broken for me to bother to fix. Machinarium on steam also was completely broken, apparently the gog release was fine.
Pacific drive performance was unplayable
Little nightmares, elden ring, motortown all worked fine.

>>109061806
It doesn't break. But even if it did break the boot loader every single update, it wouldn't bother me because that wouldn't be random and it's easy to fix too.

>>109061930
An OS update should never break something like the bootloader. Arch has a culture problem. But it's fine if Arch users are fine with it I guess.

>>109061937
>>109061930
>But it's fine if Arch users are fine with it I guess.
The problem is when Arch users lie about their OS. when updates clearly break critical components like the bootloader and then random retards lie about it. what do you benefit from lying about your platform? nothing

>>109061937
It doesn't break the bootloader, can you not read? I'm just saying I wouldn't care if it did. I've broken the bootloader a bunch of times doing retarded shit and misconfiguring my system, so fixing it is quick and easy for me.

Arch doesn't even touch the bootloader during updates, you have to manually update the bootloader separately. How the fuck would it possibly break it?

>>109062031
You're falsely stating something. It does break the bootloader, it broke on me when I updated it using pacman. Just plain pacman, the official Arch package manager.
You're a liar.

>I'm just saying I wouldn't care if it did. I've broken the bootloader a bunch of times doing retarded shit and misconfiguring my system, so fixing it is quick and easy for me.

and a retard that doesn't understand OS business 101 for stating something so stupid such as the above.

>>109062042
Okay, enlighten me. What did pacman do to break the bootloader? Which package? What changed in the update?

I'm not falsely stating anything. Every time there's a grub update, I have to manually install the new version of grub. One time I did that, I accidentally installed it in the wrong directory which broke the bootloader. Everyone makes mistakes, I don't get why you're making such a big deal out of me not being perfect.

>>109061056
NTA, but this will teach you everything for running japanese games/ visual novels on Linux:
https://www.vnwiki.xyz/
If you need handholding for certain difficult installers or quirks, go to their discord and ask for help, they'll guide you step-by-step.

>>109062078
Just a basic sudo pacman -Syu broke the bootloader.

>Everyone makes mistakes, I don't get why you're making such a big deal out of me not being perfect.

I'm not talking about you, you dumbfuck. I'm saying that the Arch OS project pushes OS maintenance responsibility to the user. Again, it's fine if Arch users want that. But it's a whole other thing when they try to advertise their OS for casual users.

if you're not lying, then maybe the Arch team has fixed this specific issue. But sudo pacman -Syu did at some point break the bootloader. I'm not sure if this is a fixed problem with the latest Arch.

>>109059444
> Do any anons use linux full time for gaming

Yes, since the first versions of DXVK, before Proton was even a thing, but I have been using Linux once in a while for general use and bashing my head against Wine's shitty d3d performance since around 2006.

>and if so what OS and Desktop Environment?
Arch and right now NixOS because of the problems with AUR

> Should I consider trying out Linux again?
When in doubt, dual boot is a thing. Linux has been rock stable for me for many years now and I don't play games with anti cheat rootkits

>inb4 stop playing video games; t. Luke Smith
Nobody cares about him anymore. He is a product of what happens when you fall for every /g/ meme

>>109062143
Oh I forgot to mention that I am using Niri as my wayland compositor

>>109062114
That isn't what I asked, what did pacman do to break it? Or do you not know what it did? You answered the question "what do you think you did?" which wasn't asked.
You're making very definitive claims so I'm, needless to say, interested in what actually happened because knowing that is useful for me to know about for future reference - should such a thing happen again.

>I'm not talking about you, you dumbfuck
>and a retard that doesn't understand OS business 101
That sure sounded pretty targeted, chump.

109062206
It's been two years, I don't know what pacman changed under the hood. From my perspective, the basic update command should never have caused this. Whatever happened, and whatever the Arch maintainers did, they shouldn't be responsible for running an OS platform if their update frontend can break systems.

This isn't about implementation details, and your question wrongly shifts responsibility to users. This is a developer/maintainer issue: regardless of the specifics, the real question is how such a problem made it into an Arch release candidate in the first place.

>>109059444
The best thing about Linux is that it made me quit games and grow the fuck up.
If it werent for Linux I might have still been some kind of windows using manchild.

>>109062264
It is the responsibility of the user, unless the software does something it's not supposed to - which at this point we can't establish because we lack the necessary information to do so. I don't think you quite understand who Arch is meant for. If the user fucks up some configuration and/or automates something and then gets unexpected results from running pacman, that is within design parameters. You're acting like Arch is meant to be used by the average user when it's clearly not. You're not even supposed to run pacman -Syu without setting aside time to repair the system if something goes wrong.
It almost never does, but if you configure something badly or don't do necessary manual interventions - it can.

This could be a developer issue, but it could also not be a developer issue. You don't know, and I don't know. We established that much.
>Arch release candidate
This does not exist. There are no release candidates for Arch.

switched from win 10 to arch linux, now on cachyos
everything works
games just work
wine is fucking solid

just switch
get KDE or GNOME
both are good for noobs

OP here. After this thread I wiped my drive and re-installed Arch. All my problems were because I was using HDR (My monitor doesn't really support it well anyway).