>>109059709
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>>109059709

use your email address. it sucks that they're being jewish about age verification, but the email option seems to be the least invasive. try also distancing yourself from google's ecosystem. install APK independently from online mirrors, use a grapheneOS phone, don't use your google account to sign up for websites. simple stuff.

>>109059709
It's simple.
Don't use it.
They don't deserve your data or your usage.

Dynamic pricing and corporate/state surveillance should be destroyed at all costs. Why? Because it will literally kill you eventually. If some corporation has a monopoly over a utility or a need and doesn't like you simply because you are black or white or jewish or something, they will force the prices high for you specifically and manipulate the economy around you until you are dead. At the same time, they will exploit marketing and public relations methods to condition both you and the people around you until you kill yourself. This already happens.

>hence trannies

I stopped using 4chan for a while there because of JS bullshit, I still kinda do.
You can just... stop using things or use the dark web instead.

I kinda avoid venues with facial scanners too.
It's not like their content is that interesting anyway because, to comply with laws, it has to be made boring now.

Remember, corporations and governments will steal and use your identity to your detriment to the point where you will be blamed for crimes you didn't commit.

>>109059712
you can opt out of them today but i think this is reflective of a trend. it's going to be everything. i tried to rent a moving truck in january, and they required a selfie to reserve a truck online. i just went in person and it was fine, but that might not be an option in the future. this shit is being eroded.

>>109059717
i don't want to set a precedent for it though. it would be trivial for me to even send a photo of my ID, and i probably wouldn't ever see any consequences. it's not JUST about the google verification. it's about the whole trend.
how are people defeating this in other places? can you break it with deepfakes? does the ID check against government systems?
unironically i'm very close to figuring out how to make my own ID.

>>109059709
I am a thirdchad so I still have some time before it rolls over here

>>109059763

they're being forced to do this shit at gunpoint by politicians who have collectively decided to roll this out across developed nations. if you find an alternative, they will be doing the same thing eventually unless they're a decentralized OS or based somewhere outside of europe/north america/oceana.

>>109059709
>How do I resist this
You don't lol, if legislation requires it you submit completely.

>>109059849
But legislation has ALWAYS required it.
These corporations in submission are merely submitting to it because they need money.

Death to them.
Including the mods that get thousands of dollars here and track users constantly.

>>109059865
Google isn't going to resist for you. They don't even want to. But if they did, they would have to do so with bullets.

>>109059919
Google will if it impacts their finance.
Just stop using Google.

>>109059815
the problem is that the genie doesn't go back into the lamp. if in 5 years people go "hey this is too much actually, i don't like having to get my face scanned to pick up an amazon delivery", the data is already out there.

do you guys not think about ways to bypass this? like actually. people go "just stop using X website". but if i could bypass the verification then i could keep using the website. it's the same as using a burner phone number or a burner email for a website sign up. i don't just "not use the forum" because they want an email. in the same way, i'm surprised i don't see more people talking about how to exploit face verification or whatever.

>>109059709
pedos btfo

>>109059741
I still use 4ch because i simply block the specific kike.js out, at first when i couldn't figure the reason why i got rangebanned i simply said "fuck it" and moved to an altchan. Meanwhile there are niggers here that decided to jump through hoops and even caved in conceding a burner email account just to have back the ability to post here. The problem exist in the first place because the latter people exist, if all did the same as me 4chan would have rolled back the kike.js entirely overnight.

>>109060181
i'm 30. i went to a lot of festivals in my early and mid 20s. in the past few years, the festivals i've went to have been pretty shitty. more expensive, worse amenities, overselling tickets, worse safety. it's just a cash grab. livenation has basically monopolized the market. they bought out festival owners and have exclusivity contracts with artists.
and when i talk to people my age about it who also go to festivals, they all know what i'm talking about and they agree.
but the problem is that for all the people younger than me-- this is just the way festivals are. this is all they've known.

but it was the same for me and the people 10-15 years older than me. it was already pozzed by corporations when i started going.

what i'm trying to say is that by choosing to not participate, you're not actually fixing the problem. because there are more new people coming on board all the time. people who have no clue what it was like before. this is just the way it is, and they don't even know what they're missing out on.

and the sinister thing is that if you wait long enough, there will be a whole new cycle. you'll be long dead and your children and grandchildren will live in a world worse than you could have ever imagined, but for them it's normal.
as long as (((people))) can keep their fingers pressed on the scale, things will keep changing. just like this, just like they always have.

i don't know how you fix it. get involved in politics, i guess. but walking away is probably the worst thing you can do. you're the one who knows what it was like before you know what is at stake. the best outcome for them is if you leave and keep your mouth shut on the way out.

>imagine using email in 2026
Email is retarded, amazingly outdated, unsecured, unencrypted shit normie-nigz use and hide behind to make themselves feel important.

>>109059709
>what's the trick to bypass this
select "take a selfie" and use a video game to trick it. it's literally what 12yo gen alpha was doing to trick discord, roblox etc. you're not dumber than a child are you anon

>>109061399
he definitely is, actually
this is the perfect iq test, I hope moot adds age verification to 4chan

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>>109059709
I will use this

>>109061415
anon, moot has betrayed us

When are you fucking regards going to understand that the upgrade to email is instant messaging??? jfc stop perpetuating this bullshit about email. If the perform you're embarking on or currently using requires an email address, it's definitely not worth it. Email has become a tracking and spying tool and vector.

>>109061539
retards*

>>109059709
Just don't verify and don't interact with other services that require verification. Let them see the financial cost of lost users.

>>109059709
At this point, my google account is probably over 18 years old, so you think that would be a free pass and then I could use Google to verify other sites.

The most telling part of these things is how they require verification even for accounts that are over 18 years old.

>>109061656
One of my main accounts is 21 years old, the other is 16.

if you think about it, it makes verified sold accounts more valuable than organically registered ones.

>>109060089
bypassing this shit is tantamount to compliance. I try not to engage with stuff like this as much as physically possible. the companies can shove a broom up their arse as far as I'm concerned.

>>109059815
>they're being forced to do this shit at gunpoint by politicians
No, they're the ones LOBBYING politicians to get these 'forced' on them. Their big problem is determining for the advertising metrics which are real users and which are bots. This is why they want IDs.

>>109059717
its hard to leave google is your main email has been gmail a decade.
What are some good and reliable email alternative? People shill proton but I don't like how they can just wipe your account if you forget to login every once in a while.

>>109062057
buy a domain and pay for email hosting. fastmail is what I use.

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>>109059709
>Your age will be evaluated by checking online data associated with your email address.
What do they even mean by this? How can they tell?

>>109062108
they scan your emails and if they see you emailing with insurance companies you are considered an adult, if they see you buying legos or video games you are considered a child

>>109062108
If the e-mail address has been active for over 18 years then you're probably older than 18.

>>109062057
They don't wipe your account retard, they did a purge once of derelict accounts. Hotmail used to delete accounts after 30 days of inactivity.

>>109062183
>>109062234
What if you enter a non google email address?

>>109062294
you can't login to google with non-google email address dummy

>>109062305
What if.... you hacked them first, and secretly implemented support for other email providers by pretending to be a whole off grid Google department, and then they all clapped?

>>109059730
Truth nuke right here. Sadly probably too hard for nu/g/ to swallow.

>>109062305
Yes you can.

Kids should be at school. Gen beta will have a better life than alpha and Z due to regulations.

>>109060250
The solution is to learn how to be social, charismatic and network, how to be useful to the people you rope in and you dump your ideas on them with absolute resolution to influence them.

It does require you to be wealthy or essential in some way, and requires you to go out lf your way to educate people in things that are important to you. This is the only way to build a pile of wills that competes with the cabal of the wealthy fucks. Pure popular power, that translates into political power.

The issue with tech is that nobody really grasps what they're doing when choosing a service, or why did they use it in the first place. The populace wants an accessible passtime, AI slop shortform vids will do. The middle to high class needs business going, they will use whatever complies with laws and is standard as long as it can quickly be put together. The only real solution is to keep creating niches, growing them and hope they affect the general zeitgeist one day. Music already did that, porn has done that lately. Movements like these come in waves and more will come.

>>109062254
https://proton.me/support/inactive-accounts
Yes, they do wipe your account if it is inactive for a year and has no active paid plan on it.

>>109062792
this has nothing to do with kids. it's data gathering on adults only.

selfie + thispersondoesnotexist

>>109060250
Any real long term solution is going to require a network of resistance who build things. There has to be a technological front and a political front and a social front. If you don't have any of these three, then it will be defeated. What ever alternatives you build, these politicians will come for it all the same and nullify it. If you don't have the social aspect, there won't be enough people who give a shit and it won't get anywhere. If you don't have technological systems in opposition, then what are you even doing?

Any real solution is going to have to be a collective effort. And as you can see here, not even anyone in this thread gives a shit to organise. They're all cattle awaiting their enslavement saying "i'll just not step into the pen!". They'll be pushed in, eventually. We all will

The first step I suppose is awareness. People have to understand what is actually happening and the stakes and why it matters

>>109059709
all my ~10 anonymous accounts were made in 2007.
so I don't have to verify shit

sucks missing out on free anonymous google accounts

>>109059712
/thread

>>109059709
I deleted all of my jew media accounts and switched to decentralized alternatives
Anyone who still uses a google account is genuinely retarded.

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>>109065126
i think it could happen-- there just needs to be good way to organize it. and i don't know if there is a good way to organize it right now. maybe it manifests from the bottom up? like maybe some small group in the US starts seriously getting involved in their local politics, and that gains traction and snowballs. people see that it can be easy to get your senator or governor or whatever to nut up and change stuff, and they get an easy-to-follow step by step plan, and they do it too.

or, maybe it's a top down thing. lobbying works. AIPAC is very effective. the NRA is very effective. but stuff like the EFF is pretty toothless. i think that, probably, if there was an anti-surveillance privacy-focused sort of group, i could see me and people with a similar mindset to me being on board with that. and then they just harass people like other lobbyists do.

i think social media is a problem because it can feel like you're doing something when you're really not. it's very easy to just like a post or send some article to your buddy and go "can you believe this shit?" and then nothing happens. maybe a purpose built platform needs to be made for political organization, but i don't know how that wouldn't get infiltrated by opposition.

i don't know if protesting is going to do anything. i don't think that calling your governor really is going to do all that much.

so the question is, what can you actually do? as an individual, what do you do? i don't think the uncle ted route is going to work either, so how do you manifest a change?

i think you're copping out in the same way. you're saying "nobody is going to do anything, so... fuck it".

my current working theory is that the best way to manifest a change is to become involved in your local politics. show up to council meetings and such with your friends, and voice your opinions. run for seats on a local board or even mayor or something. that kind of sucks cock though. i already have a job.

>>109062183
Does it work if you clean the mailbox or use it for alt account only?

I nuked all of my big tech accounts everywhere. Android still works fine, apps are still functional, but I guess it won't last long.

FOSS (NewPipe) for jewtube, forums instead of social media, cash instead of 10 bank accounts. Freedom is yours.

>>109059815
>>109062032
(((politicians)))

>>109062320
what if you were not 12 years old?

>>109066410
>AIPAC is very effective
yes, pedo blackmailing does work pretty well.

>>109066410
>i don't know if protesting is going to do anything. i don't think that calling your governor really is going to do all that much.
Nah it will do fuck all. These people don't want to listen to you. They don't give a shit what you want or think. So why would they listen now when you go protest or do some futile calls?
>so the question is, what can you actually do? as an individual, what do you do?
You can do little as an individual. These politicians and international organisations who brought this shite in are not working as individuals. But it does all start with individuals deciding to co-operate and fight collectively on many fronts

>i think you're copping out in the same way. you're saying "nobody is going to do anything, so... fuck it"
I'm saying fucking collectivise. And until then, everything else is in the long run futile

>become involved in your local politics
Local councils have no say over these policies that are being implemented through national governments. Well, in the UK at least. State and national politics is where it is at. And to influence those, that requires more organisation than just a couple "voicing your opinions" at a county council

The fact of the matter is, there is no easy solution and there doesn't seem to be enough people that give a shit. So as I said, first thing first is awareness. I suppose you can as an individual contribute to that (for now until these laws come into effect, unless you are going to comply)

>>109066493
>Local councils have no say over these policies that are being implemented through national governments. Well, in the UK at least
yes, but also they kind of do. the age verification stuff, i agree. that's a higher-order thing. but i do think there are battles that are being lost right now at the local level.
my city installed flock cameras (ALPR) last year. that was a local decision. if citizens got pissy about it, that could be reversed. there's going to be more shit like this, and if you keep your finger on the pulse then you can show up when relevant things come up. and it takes a hell of a lot fewer votes to change the mayor if he won't play ball.
i'm in louisiana, and there's a petition underway right now to recall our governor after he suspended a vote to redraw voting districts in our state. i don't have much skin in that game, but it's an example of shit happening, i guess.

i think people probably do actually care about privacy. i think you're right, about educating people. i think it is important to explain to your friends and family and coworkers why you give a shit and why they should give a shit, and maybe that will get the ball rolling. but i think the real battlefield is in the UK. i think if you guys go down with little resistance, that'll be the cue for governments everywhere to put their foot on the gas without fear.

i think a lot of people are probably willing to do stuff, they just don't know what to do. and considering both you and i actually care about this, and are invested, and still don't really know what to do, is indicative of a serious problem. fuck knows what the average person thinks they ought to do.

>>109066563
That's a fair point. I'm starting to see a lot of shops with facial recognition cameras in my local area. No one reads the signs out front, either, they don't even know

>>109059709
>i can't use pornhub
i can use pornhub without providing any PII
skill issue

Hijack your webcam and inject a deepfake video stream that shows some AI generated guy or girl.

>>109062057
Proton

>>109061573
>lost users
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>109059709
TOR
Also, create a fake persona.
Create a genuine looking email from a reputable email provider.
Find passport image online etc.

>>109066410
Didn't read your sloppy word salad, but the pic you posted is unironically the right mindset.
If you participate in society in any form or shape, you unironically approve of it.
Reminder that assisted euthanasia is illegal, because those that die young and peacefully don't pay taxes.

>>109059763
>go to uhaul store
>get in line to rent a truck
>teenager behind the register asks you to take a selfie to verify your age
i can honestly believe it

>>109067473
they have all sorts of liveness detection to bypass this

>>109071635
uh it's impossible to detect thoughbeit.

>>109072545
i was under the assumption the technology was a lot more advanced than it is. looking at it more, it seems like a lot of marketing-speak and the tech is really for primitive mask detection, photos, etc.