>>109062387
>can the government ban math?
this is a question unironically asked on the technology board

>>109062387
Just use a vpn to login to your vpn, that way they won't know you're using a vpn

They can't ban VPNs but where is the broke kid without a credit card going to get a VPN from? The free VPNs are all already banned from posting anywhere because of abuse.

>>109062677
>They can't ban VPNs but where is the broke kid without a credit card going to get a VPN from?
Visa gift card or some shit?

>>109062681
The UK has been cracking down hard on non-KYC

I don't have a smartphone (can't afford one, don't have much use for one), I don't travel abroad (I wouldn't know 2 people for at least 2 years in an approved profession to countersign one) and I don't have a credit card (debit cards do not count for some reason). It's like they want me to off myself.

>>109062677
>>109062858
There are VPNs that accept cash in the mail. The government doesn't need to make using VPNs impossible. Doing DNS blocks / KYC / making it annoying is enough to stop 80-90% of people. Kids are tech illiterate now. Normies don't know how to watch YouTube without ads or how to pirate shit.

You have to give your ID or face to a third party company (often foreign) to access whatever they define as social media which includes youtube
I can't say how much I hate this. Why the fuck would they make it like this?

>>109062387
in all brutal honesty, I just want a "privacy preserving" digital ID system if it stops all this stupid shit for good, but it will never be done in a way that actually preserves privacy because that would be too fucking sensible. god forbid we have zero knowledge IDs.

>>109062898
Because they want to be able to track you with 1 click

>>109062894
That's no good if you have an existing account. I don't want to be signing into random VPNs.

>>109062387
they can ban free VPNs in app stores, which is still bad. This is also the theoretical maximum they can go. All actions after that will require massive changes to the internet infrastructure there, and in the end it will be china 2.0 where people still do use VPNs, so its not even all that effective.

>>109062921
>random VPN
>existing account
not sure what you mean, you always have to trust someone with your traffic in order to reach the internet, there is no guaranteed safe outlet. Use Mullvad + cash if you're paranoid, they got raided a while ago and police didn't find shit because their no logging policy was legit, other VPNs can't say the same.

>>109062400
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indiana_pi_bill

>>109062905
Here's my proof I'm an adult: "I pay the internet bill"
Done. Dusted.

>>109062387
>this will surely stop the country from imploding!

>>109062943
I mean Google could just flag it as suspicious. It does a lot more verification checks if you sign in from a different location/ISP than your normal ones. It sometimes just doesn't even let you in with the right password (just says something like "sorry we cannot verify you are the owner of this account right now. try later).

>>109062956
>never became law due to the intervention of C. A. Waldo, a professor at Purdue University, who happened to be present in the legislature on the day it went up for a vote.
Lmao.

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>>109062387
Will these geriatric boomers try to ban ssh? Or renting a server? Or having more than one computer?
How else do they imagine banning these magical VPNs?

>>109062387
no

>>109063176
They will make a big scary speech on camera and then google, apple and microsoft will find a way, or else.

>>109063176
>Or having more than one computer?
Computer ownership outside of business use will be banned. Why do you need more than an iPhone? Can only be 'p and 'ate speech.

>>109062387
Of course they can. That nonsense was proven wrong by China and Russia. If you're there no VPN will help you. You talk to mainland Chinese or Russia residing Russians here very often?

>>109063366
>You talk to mainland Chinese or Russia residing Russians here very often?
yes lol

>>109063366
мoй чeл, we use VPNs that use the VLESS+Reality protocol that cannot be banned unless the internet in it's entirety is blocked. Also there's tools for bypassing DPI like zapret, GoodbyeDPI, etc.

>>109063466
How are you posting here and why VLESS, does shadowsocks not work? I see a lot of anons shill shadowsocks in general

>>109063487
I'm using zapret to post here, Shadowsocks works, but not everywhere, it depends on the provider, etc.
We have a discussion board on ntc.party for discussions of bypassing the internet censorship.

>>109063466
Vless itself can't be blocked because it's very barebones, but it's still possible to make it very painful to use. Recently they implemented new blocks that fucked over a lot of VPN sellers (happened around a week ago when they started banning chromium fingerprint when combined with 2 other patterns like "greylisted" datacenter ASN and lots of connections to a single SNI).
I personally am fucking tired of having to bother with this shit (paying for multiple VPS servers for redundancy, having to set up different transport protocols yadda yadda). How bad do you think it's going to be by, let's say, 2030?
>>109063487
>How are you posting here and why VLESS, does shadowsocks not work?
1. Zapret (a way to fool DPI, doesn't always work)
2. You can still get proxy IP that works, one of VPS works perfectly well on 4chan
3. There are other ways to post I'll avoid mentioning explicitly

As for shadowsocks, it's outdated and is pretty easily detected. If you want to circumvent sophisticated DPI, you don't want you traffic to look like random crap, you want it to look like legit traffic to a website.

>>109062943
>other VPNs can't say the same.
I was going to say Proton, but recently someone got arrested related to a protest, Proton gave payment details which led to the arrest.

>>109063190
This.

>>109063612
Does Tor browser still work in Russia?

>>109062387
Communism depends on control over speech and information

>>109063798
Communism != censorship.
In fact, the communist party of Russia is the only one that stands up against internet censorship and the ban on public protests.

>>109063815
>the communist party of Russia
let me guess, they have 0 actual power and are probably more a liberal party anyway?

>>109063505
Do not talk much abot what works or what does not, if you wanna keep it this way.
>>109063466
That is so advanced shit, I'm sure you are aware of it, if you set it up and configured on your own. Consider this: if you are using someone else's VPN (no matter obfuscation mechanism), there is a chance it is operated by local glowies and they analyse your traffic.
If you pair this information with the fact that all the VPN provs who do not comply with gov demands were kicked out of hostings in Russia and had their apps, websites and some IPs blacklisted, then you can calculate your chances of getting fucked.

>>109063823
No, they always support the actual communist party (called united russia) and only disagree on unimportant stuff to appeal to their TA and help peole vent frustration, make them believe they are represented etc.
Controlled opposition.

>>109063815
Communism doesn't exist in a free society.
Communism by design requires suppression on individual will and individual rights. If anyone has different thoughts on how to live a life, they are to be imprisoned and killed off in communinsm. Afterall, its the state that has to become the person's god. If they want to work on their own, they are seen as a threat. If they want to earn a living, they are seen as a threat. Individual differences cannot be allowed to exist.
We see this play out in all forms of area where marxists have taken over. In video games, in media, in hiring practices, in education, in wealth, in beauty standards, in fitness standards, in sex differences, etc.

Communism is anti-human equation.

>>109063792
With bridges yes, webtunnel certainly works, I think snowflake works too but its slow as fuck.

>>109063837
The controlled opposition is the "New People" party.
The commies actually voted against all censorship laws, as surrealistic as this may sound.

>>109063840
You're supposed to get that bridge from somewhere first.

>>109062387
https://youtube.com/shorts/yvVmh4lgd_g

>>109063865
Yeah, and I did get plenty beforehand
If your question was if it works out of the box, not sure. I think it might, my friend was able to connect just after installing it and choosing the "I am in a highly censored country" or something like that, but it didn't work out for me when I tried it few weeks ago. Thing with Russian censorship is it's really inconsistent across different ISPs (unlike GFW for example)

>>109062400
You show me how to implement a VPN by thinking about numbers.

>>109063896
Alright, but then you're supposed to get the Tor Browser with a built-in list of bridges, a fresh one. From what I know, they made sure it is not straightforward.
> it's really inconsistent
Consider a possibility of A/B testing and monitoring of some bypass transports to see how many people are active.

>>109063076
Finally answer once and for all the question we've all asked since time immemorial: where's waldo.

>>109063951
>Consider a possibility of A/B testing and monitoring of some bypass transports to see how many people are active.
It mostly happens because TSPU (the hardware that performs DPI) is not centralized and is installed for each large ISP separately, from what I know. This is because Russian internet, unlike Chinese, wasn't built with extreme censorship and centralization in mind. It was as free as it gets in 00s and early 10s
But yeah some A/B testing is probably happening as well

>>109062387
If 4chan can do so, bongland also can.

>>109062956
Guess that's why they have trouble with their condoms

>>109062387
How about facial recognition to use Polymarket
That'll shut them up

>>109064105
You don't need a VPN to view this site. People can still view anything

>>109063849
Communist governments have throughout history used censorship tp varyong degrees as a tool to advance their own ends, that doesn't mean they just love censorship in general and hold it up as an end in itself. There is zero reason for any serious Communist party to support the broad suppression of free speech by a capitalist oligarchy.

>>109063366
how will they block starlink? they would have to ban it or interfere with it.

>>109064334
and that's what they do.

joke begins
guess hows my facial recognition

Anyone care to elaborate how this is bypassed in Australia, and/or how their system works. Theirs apparently is already in effect.

>>109062894
>>109062898
They don't give a fuck about normies. They want to get rid of bots promoting anti-israeli narratives

>>109064536
>bots promoting anti-israeli narratives
Most anti-Israeli sentiment on the Internet is from real people, and most of it is organic rather than shilling campaigns

>>109064553
Organic is not the right word to talk about propaganda-lapping sheeple who were blasted with brainwashing for years on end, but you are otherwise correct (it's not bots driven or paid for anymore).

>>109064563
>propaganda-lapping
reading about all the evil Jews commit isn't "propaganda"

>>109063366
My friend. Mainland chinks don't even block 99% of the western internet. They basically only block american bigtech for economic reasons. Look at how many steam reviews games have in chinese or how many chinese doujin translations are on western sites.

>>109064579
Oh no... the sub-20 IQ sheeple fell for the psyop again...

>>109063648
That was Proton Mail, not VPN.

>>109064553
Either way, bots are now hindered because you get one account per identity and anti-jew talk will get you a knock on the door... (Or a palantir drone)
Of course you can still pay homeless to sign up for you (With their NFC passports), get devices with separate TPM keys, residential proxies and so on but it gets annoying fast.
Too bad for AltMann though. His retina scanners are now kinda pointless.

>>109064517
Paid a co-worker 20 dollarydoos to use his face to verify my discord account, some stuff was already verified from credit card payments, everything else I just use mullvad.

>>109062858
>wouldn't know 2 people for at least 2 years in an approved profession to countersign one
What the actual fuck?

>>109062905
If they made it really "privacy preserving" as in the gov doesn't know the site/identity, you could make an "age attestation as a service" API and sign shit for others for $0.01

>>109063176
They will just make the ISPs only accept packets signed with a CPU TPM key after a secure enclave attested the software that produced them

>>109062387
If the chinks can't do it the bongs certainly can't

>>109062677
TOR is free. Free for how long is anyone's guess though…
It's only a matter of time before they decree that nobody needs privacy and having privacy is illegal.

>>109064672
Never going to be feasible unless IPv8 becomes a reality and your access to the Internet is suddenly governed by a JWT token issued over Oauth2 via your Government login.

>>109062387
>credit cards
No one would care about this shit if everyone could just prove they have access to a credit card.
If they seriously just let people use a card to ID verify this is a gigantic nothingburger holy shit

>>109063176
The point is not to ban VPNs, or ssh, or renting a server. But be honest, how many under 16 year olds do you see being capable of renting a server and setting up their own VPN?

>>109064959
And aren't all top exit nodes blacklisted by pretty much everyone for posting anything because otherwise they'd be used for neverending abuse?

>>109062387
they can to some extend
there is always a way out

It's funny, but no one has listed the right answer in this thread. If they're still breathing...

>>109062387
Governments can do whatever they want. Abramovich was a billionaire and the UK told him to fuck off booted him out the country and took his football club away from him.

There is no bigger power in your country than the Government. Any time they want they can ruin your life.

>>109062894
>Kids are tech illiterate now.
Because tech became too easy to use. Back in the day just getting your hardware drivers set up was a bitch and a half. Now everything just works. VPN bans and suchlike are going to make children tech literate again and produce a generation that's even harder to track and police than Millennials.

>>109062925
>Connect to Tor
>Download proton.apk
It's a mild inconvenience at most. You even get wireguard built into OS's now.

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>>109064143
My bongland ISP has 4chan blocked. Now I need to pay for a 4chan pass to post here from behind a VPN. Shit sucks.
Same pozzed company behind those troon airline ads too.

>>109064617
Worth adding that Proton have been raided for VPN data like Mullvad were, and had nothing to hand over.
I wouldn't trust any other VPN provider, but these too are alright.

>>109064998
In my country fiber goes over PPPoE for billing authentication. What's stopping them from requiring an endpoint with an approved modified wireguard running with keys in remotely attested env?

>>109065120
Obviously the cards are sufficient. They have your identity assigned to them so if you post something naughty about Starmer's wife you can get arrested

>>109065327
The UK would never have the competency to do this. They still can't even enforce the first round of censorship from when the OSA first dropped.

>>109065120
Nobody in the UK uses credit cards. And getting a debit card doesn't require id iirc.

>>109065356
I guess they don't really have to. The big platforms will support this as it benefits them, and the legislative stick can be used for smaller sites that don't want to.
If you tried to sign up for facebook/twitter/aliexpress/google/linkedin recently, notice that they either require a google/apple account, a remote attested phone with a number or face/id/passport scan. And this is worldwide because it benefits them marketing/spam/scraping wise, and propaganda/sentiment control is obviously nice too.

>>109064617
You are right my bad.

>>109065128
>And aren't all top exit nodes blacklisted by pretty much everyone for posting anything because otherwise they'd be used for neverending abuse?
Only those which are publicly known. You can get lucky sometimes but in general, yes, be prepared to get told to fuck off or fill out 50 million capchas. It does work though and not all websites play the blacklist/censor game. Some are perfectly happy for you to use tor, hell some more progressive sites will even host a .onion hidden service as an alternative to their clearnet site.

>>109065185
He was also a Russian oligarch that chummy with Putin. Yeah, he can get fucked. Should have kept better company.

>>109065361
It doesn't require ID but your bank should know your age regardless. I would be in favour of my bank performing age verification for services such as Steam.

This currently isn't possible but it should be possible in my honest opinion. Banks aren't perfect but if someone is going to do ID verification I'd rather it be them than some shady American company. The government hasn't done a strong enough job on regulating the age verification industry at all and UK data protection law isn't good enough for the task despite what they may say.

>>109065351
Yep people saying credit card is fine are dumb. Accepting any of this is retarded.

Do you want Digital ID?

-Yes
-Yes, but in 2027
-Yes, but after a public consultation
-Yes, so long as the safeguards are in place
-Don't Know

If you answered Don't Know please answer the following

How much innocent blood is on your hands right now?

-A little, I only murdered a few innocent people
-A lot, I am a convicted murderer
-Which hands, I've cut off several and have a collection of them
-Don't Know, I lost count after 60 gallons

>>109065361
>And getting a debit card doesn't require id iirc.
It wouldn't matter because people under 18 can get debit cards anyway. That's why you need a social """""credit card""""" like all the yanks have

>>109065776
You forgot the "if you're against ID verification for social media you must be a nonce" excuse

>>109065776
very antisemitic follow-up questions desu

>>109065745
the english banking sector is up there with filipino pimps and jewish transplant doctors for the 'most shady business' award

>>109065946
Yeah, but at least it happens in this country where they can be properly held to account.

The government has basically greenlit wankers in America to make off with your ID and do what they want with it. Maybe they'll even sell it to Palantir or leak it on the open market like Discord did.

UK data protection is not adequate to deal with this at all.

I think if you asked most British people would you rather your bank do verification or some shady company that will sell all of your data to Palantir the choice would be obvious.

Well, actually, the obvious choice is "None of them. Why the fuck do I have to give up my ID at all?" but that ship has sailed.

wow thanks now even on this thirld world shithole they are discussing this shit.

>>109062387
The billionaires and Jews have done an exceptional job in dumbing down the human race. The average person now is nothing more than a literal mindless head of cattle. Literally. Spend 10 minutes in public and you'll see how genuinely stupid the average person is.
I hope the herd gets slaughtered by the billions.

>>109062956
What the fuck did I just read

>>109062894

>VPN bans and suchlike are going to make children tech literate again and produce a generation that's even harder to track and police than Millennials.

That's my country for 'ya. I think children should be aware of these and better protect their privacy, No matter if your state does age verification or is just generally oppressive.

>>109066207
Sorry, kinda new to 4chan.

>>109062894
>KYC
KYC should be illegal.

>>109065308
i bet you didn't try to just change your DNS to Cloudflare or some shit

my guess is it'll be the same as they've done with porn, i.e. there will be ways to get around it but the majority of people will just submit to the ID checks, which is good enough for the Gov

Jews realized young people hate them because of social media like tiktok and since they bought a tiktok or a since USA bought a tiktok it's been pretty obvious what they've been trying to do they're trying to make it so that young kids can't be indoctrinated through social media hate speech against the Israeli people

>>109066827
i am beyond tired of seeing ESLs blather about jews in every thread

>>109062905
The same politicians who are raping and eating kids want to put in an ID system to protect the kids and you're out here saying, "Yeah, but they're on to something?" Anon. YOU are too retarded for the internet, find the nearest adult and trust whatever they say, you're a hazard to yourself.

>>109062387
it's not technically doable without entirely cutting themselves from the internet

>>109066874
Don't listen to this anon! Just kill yourself instead.

>>109066843
English is actually my fifth language thank you very much

>the great firewall of china is bad
>it is fine if we do it actually
KEK the absolute state of west

>>109062387
Not through tech, but through paperwork yes.
1) Make them unavailable through app stores so normies can't get them easily
2) Make sure that any paid vpn provider that works UK requires that you also enter some government id during registration
3) Have banks and payment processors submit lists of payments to vpn providers for verification by government
>>109063176
No, what they will do is push this to hosting providers. Every account that has UK payment method will have a their machine checked either for traffic on known vpn ports, or have their installation scanned for known vpn apps. You'll have those that don't accept that and they'll get banned by UK, those that remain will accept those rules.

>>109062387
They'll just make it almost impossible for regular semi tech-literate people then play wack-a-mole with the resident schizos
Couple big publicised arrests, etc just to make things harder and harder
You will look at now in 10 years time and see it as free as the wild west internet era

>>109064959
Tor is slow though. Also, you should use it as little as possible on the clearnet, especially if you are going to log into anything or post messages anywhere.
Using Tor on spaces where 99.9% of people are using regular connections makes you glow harder than a group of nondescript fit dudes with military haircuts, a basic tee, cargo shorts and sunglasses at a protest.
Even if they can't track you immediately, it massively increases the chances of someone getting interested enough in your behavior to start tracking it and comparing it to huge databases, some of which likely already have enough personal data to deanonimize you.

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Remember when it was just a "porn ban" and people who spoke out against it were shamed and called paedophiles?

>>109066448
We had no KYC until the media uncovered massive money laundering, bribing and tax evasion schemes. That meant there was massive public pressure to implement KYC laws.

>>109063466
And you're fucking nigger cattle who accepted this and keep living in shit just your ancestors did lol. Literally use Chinese protocols and think they're le smart and "hacked" the system, and you tell white people that it's actually a normal way to live. Just kys

I hope they'll just decide to cut their sea cables as the final solution to the censorship question. You can't have your prisoners connect outside of your prison island if you eradicate the core method of doing so.

>>109065269
I'd say the amount of tech literate kids is about the same as it used to be when we were young, the main difference is everyone is online now and not just the tech literature ones.

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>>109067380
Continental Europe and America would be pissed at that since a large amount of transatlantic cables connect via the UK and Ireland.

>>109067365
where did he say it was normal?

>>109062894
It somewhat works with EU internal mail to Mullvad unless someone steals the money, but good luck getting your money through via snail mail to another country with customs checks in way.

Considering our leadership's total lack of drive and personality It's pretty easy to believe all the drive for DigitalID and age verification is coming from outside lobbying.
Besides this is the government making it someone else's problem, they don't have to expend resources on education programs or find a solution that respect privacy, they are literally going "OK, not our problem now, you figure out how to sort this out"

>>109062387
Why not just turn off the interne

>>109062905
Such simply can't exist. Anyone could generate unrevokable tokens for everyone if it did and the whole system would be completely pointless in minutes.

>>109067449
Do letters even need customs check? Just say it's documents

>>109067405
If you don't mention that it's not normal you support it. And no, not amount of VPNs and technology will solve the issue with blocking, because it affects the society beyond your fuckin porn websitea in your room. Fuckin goyim, keep using Chinese tech to "solve" your issue, sure it's a wise decision.

>>109067558
It's easier to use VPNs than to Luigi the corrupt politicians pushing for internet resteictions.

>>109067549
Everything goes through x-ray to find drugs etc. and money can be easily identified.

>>109067549
Not to mention that the receiving address of the few companies that offer the cash payment option is publicly known and all mail with that address can be easily diverted by automation in the postal service of the country of origin.

>>109067601
>>109067592
Could the UK government track bitcoin payments to VPN providers?

>>109067565
I hope China pays well for this sort of doomerism. But no, it's easy only short term, and these decisions will affect you sooner or later, even if you'll be one of 1% with a normal internet access. Not to mention how it's gonna reshape the society and just make more ground for even more serious anti freedom laws.

This way of thinking should only be acceptable if you're a commie who needs a big daddy to solve your problems in life. Or if you're brown.

Genuinely wish these big tech companies would just cut access to the UK rather than comply with this shit. Literally just cut us off from the internet.

>>109067636
Yes but not Monero

>>109067727
They're all in on it, retard. This shit is going worldwide eventually.

>>109062905
You say this as though it's mere incompetence and it wasn't designed specifically to push this ID shit

>>109064433
Kek

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>>109064584
Nah, it's because some specific companies decided to bend their knee and make china their special snowflake and went ahead and censored everything CCP asked them to.
So you and chinese see different versions of the same website/app, you only see them in the area where it intersects, not everywhere.
And yes, they have a white list, so effectively 100% is blocked, unless it is specifically allowed.
>>109064334
So short answer: Elon will not allow you on Kremlin's behalf.
Right now he's got a perfect cover, teh war. After war ends, he will do as they tell him, because raw materials for his tesla and spacex are coming from Russia.
If we skip this globohomo nonsense and get to pure tech, then there's no way to block it if you know what you are doing. You either use it while surrounded by walls, or you literally dig a hole in the ground to accomodate it and avoid wave propagation towards the horizon. Radiof monitoring in Russia is taken seriously, although their military comms are utter shit and an embarrasement, they are good at EW stuff and radars of all sorts.
Use your starlink on the outskirts of some industrial provincial city and they will pay you a visit real soon.
Now assuming you don't make this mistake, there is also sattelite monitoring. With very high precision nowadays. It looks like a heatmap, shows concentration of radio signals. I'm not sure about starlink, since it basically is a phased array and is supposed to be fairly directional, towards a specific sattelite, but still it will probably show up as a tiny spot on the map. So avoid completely uninhabited places. Use "hide in plain sight" technique, but make sure people cannot visually identify the dish (it's quite infamous already).

>>109067157
It's always like this and retards keep falling for it.

>>109067565
I'm not sure about that one. There was at least one government completely dismantled by citizens (mostly young people, including under 18) dues to Internet censorship. Happened last year or so.

>>109067638
> This way of thinking should only be acceptable if you're a commie who needs a big daddy to solve your problems in life. Or if you're brown
He's both.

>>109067942
Qrd

>>109066827
Pretty sure it was not through tiktok, that shithole is censormaxed alright.
And when it comes to antisemitism introduced to kids, it usually is harmless and intended to create toothless controlled opposittion. It's the kind of thing rabby would use to fearmonger his herd right into a synagogue like cattle. Besides that, there are also glowies, they presents themselves as le based nozzis, just to get in touch with people who might actually be into that and monitor them. Then you have Russians, they are famous for funding far left and far right at the same time, to destabilize countries and to "patrol both sides of the border".
There are no real nazis anymore. At least not any kind that would influence anything. Which is a good thing, since that is communism with Germans instead of Jews at the top, literally the same thing.

>>109067973
Don't remember the name, some Asian country. Not Philippines, not 'Nam, but somewhere tere. Basically an angry mob of teenagers and uni students burned down the parliament and such.

>>109065128
>But be honest, how many under 16 year olds do you see being capable of renting a server and setting up their own VPN?
1) it's a single script to set up an openVPN instance and create profiles.
2) nowadays there are things like amnezia that only ask for your vps ip and root password and automatically set everything up for you, from within an app.
while sounds sketchy as fuck people report that it works and their shit is open sourced
3) you can just have gemini or whatever to spoonfeed you your entire sing-box setup...

>>109062387
Assuming they have actually competent people and not just a bunch of jeets:
First they'll ban store apps.
Then they'll ban non-obfuscated protocols like wireguard.
Then they will employ statical methods to throttle your traffic if it looks sus.
Then they'll put spyware in apps to check the availability of banned sites and ban your VPN server by IP.
Beyond that there's only IP whitelist and total disconnect from the internet.

>>109062387
why not just require showing the shop assistant your id when buying a phone/sim card and have them nod at you with ok looks good and block underages from having smartphones that way
it is such a simple solution

>>109068025
*statistical

I will be paying a random asian kid to scan his face on my behalf.

Nigger. Nigger nigger nigger. Are you reading this Kier Starmer aka Nigger Starmer the Nigger? Nigger. Nigger. Nigger. Nigger.

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>>109068029
Because they aren't looking for a solution, they're looking for an excuse to tie your online accounts to your id.

>>109068042
per capita?

>>109068042
This is kind of skewed though because "online comments" are the only way the lower class communicate in the UK.

Grace Kesleigh Angel gets a text from her ex boyfriend and says the most retarded thing imagineable and he responds back with "I'll come over to your house and knock your boyfriends teeth out" then she has a woman moment and tells the local police department what she's done and they ask her "are you fearing for your life?" and she quivvers a "yes" because she is a dumb bitch and then the police arrest the ex boyfriend for "online harassment".

Genuinely this is one of the worst places in the world to exist in.

>>109068025
>First they'll ban store apps.
How? I can change my apple store to other countries.
>Then they'll put spyware in apps to check the availability of banned sites and ban your VPN server by IP
VPN providers such as Mullvad won't go along with that.

Also don't be racist.

Is this the time to get a Pixel and install Graphene on it?

>>109068042
That is not exactly what you think anon. It works with China, Russia and such. UK is different.
I am 99% confident that in UK specifically it is seen as means to extract money.
Maybe in Australia it is a moral thing, since I've heard they're still puritans. But not UK.

Think of it this way: a big shot from UK seen what happens in other countries, heard of this thing called VPN, realised he can start a VPN business and make a lot of money. The only thing required? An excuse for his pocket political party to vote in a new law.
It's a money making machine.

Also Jews unironically. By now, they likely own like half the VPN services in the entire world, not trying to make a joke here. It's money and intel they're after.

>>109068066
>How? I can change my apple store to other countries.
Somehow I doubt apple just lets you download apps banned in your country.
>VPN providers such as Mullvad won't go along with that.
Your bank will go along with it. It'll ping a banned site, if it's available it'll traceroute and boom goes your mullvad server.

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>>109068072
The UK government is explicitly working against its people, it's not about the money or morals at all.

UK is currently led by a left-wing party that had not won any elections in over 15 years.

They're pushing all of this shit now they are in power.

>>109068072
>Maybe in Australia it is a moral thing, since I've heard they're still puritans.
Puritans are evil. anyone who tries to forcefully suppress Human nature is evil. All these evil politicians pushing social media ban are the same politicians against banning the genital mutilation or children.

>>109068077
>Somehow I doubt apple just lets you download apps banned in your country
You are right, they will do everything local dictator tells them to do. Probably would hand over private info of individuals just to keep the market share in the country.
>>109068077
>Your bank will go along with it. It'll ping a banned site, if it's available it'll traceroute and boom goes your mullvad server
Anon from Russia, I assume?
People already use two devices instead of one or would you say they gave up?

>>109068010

I think that's Nepal.

>>109068130
Very likely. Myanmar was having that weird civil war with half the world trying to shove their finger in the pie as well. I was interested in DIY weapons back then. That part of the world is quite forgotten, but very interesting lately.

>>109068072
>>109068109
>>109068117
Both the UK and Australia ban X and allow Bluesky for the underage. All of this is commie pedo bullshit.

>>109064536
But Starmer.is pro Islam. Anti Israel
>>109068139
Because bluesky does not have enough users to qualify. Retard.

>>109068138
Bro, that's my hometown.

>>109068149
>Because bluesky does not have enough users to qualify. Retard.
discord does, and that still works

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>>109062387
Is there even anyone left to defend this shit lmao
At first people would smugly claim don't be racist as if some online postings should mean jail time in any context

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>>109068149
>Anti Israel
Starmer's wife is a Jew, he took trips to Aushwitz with her, he literally has Israeli in-laws.

>>109068176
That doesn't matter because Netanyahu is in a different clan. Starmer wants to use muslims to kill Netanyahu and destroy Israel so that his faction can take over.

>>109068159
4chan is also much smaller than bluesky yet Ofcom is trying to sue Hiro

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>>109068139
Look.

Conservatives were in power 2010-2024, over 14 years of power.

Labour were last in power 1997 to fucking 2005, the internet is NOTHING like it was back then, they don't know shit.

>>109068184
4chan is being sued for "illegal content" but it does not require ID checks.
>>109068159
Discord is not social media in traditional sense. You have chats and group chats but you do not have feeds, global posts that everyone can see, you do not have curation algorithms.
Is whatsapp included in the law?

Why the fuck do people think that VPNs can't be banned well enough to make it a pain in the ass? Just ban every connection using a VPN protocol going out of the country, then monitor "dual-use" protocol like SSHs for suspicious traffic and throttle the connection if it seems like some TLS or HTTP is being recognized under the protocol. You need Deep Packet Inspection for all it.
Of course, none of this will ban shit that masks as a regular TCP+TLS+HTTP connection, like VLESS, but even then you can actively save the SNIs of TLS connections and "check" these connections by trying to connect to that domain yourself. If it didn't work, then might as well assume it's a VPN connection and slow it down or terminate. This won't work against VLESS though, but is worth implementing nonetheless.
>but banning VPN protocols will ruin the economy
Well yeah, but they don't give a fuck about it at all in our country

>>109068194
>Discord is not social media in traditional sense
correct. it's much less transparent, and more insular. groomers paradise

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>>109068194
4chan is being sued for age checks, not for the content.

>>109068207
Discord is only "grooming" because it has children. Wherever children go, groomers follow.
That is why so many teachers, priests and babysitters are pedophiles

>>109068220
Well I guess UK is just retarded then. But I think that age verification will pass on most countries in some form. Even if I disagree with it.

>>109068221
>Discord is only "grooming" because it has children
and it still has children because it still works lol

>>109068152
Which one?

>>109068184
I'd sue that faggot myself, look at the state of this website.

>restrict sites with non-pedo admins
>allow sites with pedo admins
>call it child safety
Actual satanic ritual shit.

>>109068236
Myanmar.

>>109068270
Is the war over yet?

>>109068281
Far from it, but sort of an active stalemate while the military government forms an illiberal democracy with a sham election.

>>109068221
My initial impression of tiktok was that it's some kind of pedo app. They were showing me ads with underage girls dancing. I "never show again"ed those for a while. Then in a year or two I heard it the most popular shit in the world.
I guess, there two sides to this. One is that there are children who are gullible and a horde of pedos chasing them on the Internet. Another side is that childred and teenagers are always prioritised by the media, because by indoctrinating them they can define their behaviour in the nearest future. Those are the people who will define the future of the country, so compromising them in a very high priority for all the 3-letter faggots and they are in fact the biggest groomers of them all.

>>109068311
Take care m8. And beware of gov's agents, regardless which side you're on. Saying "wrong" things in pressence of snitches is how you get in trouble once the fighting stops.
In worst cases it ends up with Soviet style cross-surveilance when every other person is a snitch and from time to time they are tested and punished for not snitching etc.

>>109068318
I don't think that glowniggers want kids to whore out. TikTok went through Chinese, Singaporean, Chinese and now American ownership and outside of antisemitism changes recently, nothing changed.
There were always teens doing borderline soft porn videos with intent of provoking lust.
So unless you believe that we already live in one world government, my most likely explanation is that the company itself allows and promotes this because it makes them money, and they look the other way when it comes to underage teens doing these types of videos.

But there is a sort of normalization of previously taboo and degenerate topics by popular media I would say.
You have games like Andy and Leyley which normalize incest and you have now Pragmata which normalizes pedophilia.
Obviously none of the creators openly promote this, but they have a fanbase that they openly cater to (Andy and Leyley added actual incest scenes, not just implied; Pragmata added their uoh emoji when they saw who their community was)
So media companies in all sectors play into their degenerate fanbases to earn money. Maybe there is psyop involved, but it would have to be coordinated between several countries. Japan, China and USA would all have to agree that they want to promote this.

>>109068406
>Pragmata which normalizes pedophilia.
No it doesn't, retard. You would look at a father at a playground with his daughter and shout "UH!! What is this goonslop!!!"

>>109068406
the most likely option is that the government wants to implement id checks

>>109068426
A real human being in the world with their biological children is nothing like a videogame.

>>109062387
bong moment

>>109068450
yeah pakistanis are much worse

>>109068426
You clearly didn't read the entire post. Andy and Leyley doesn't normalize incest either, but they play into that kind of community and they white wash it. They use things like implication, subversion and so on. They play into the community that very clearly understands the implication and makes even explicit art about the right side of the implication.
It is very clear that the games combined with the community desentivize the viewers to such concepts which does lead to normalization.

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>>109068452
Coming soon to a country near you

>>109068398
Honestly, That's why I want to treasure the freedom and privacy of the internet while every first world country tries to dismantle it in real time. This government is not tech knowledgeable enough(or preocupied with china) to produce similar legislation anytime soon.

>>109068465
this poster is an actual pedo

>>109068483
And you're clearly an idiot.

15 years ago we were arguing with the British about how being totally disarmed would lead to government oppression and how a massively armed population keeps the government/law enforcement honest, kek

>>109068516
Silly American we actually tried to blow up our own parliament, hell 4chans guy fawkes anonymous mask meme is all about it.

>>109068473
The most that did is just geoblock Meta and X.

Since I have a Google Pixel phone, lowkey wanna try out GrapheneOS for the second time. But not yet. Imma wait until the device EOL before pulling the trigger since what I have rn is a rooted stock rom.

>>109068516
you won't do shit when drumpf does the same

>>109064959
Please, for the love of all that is holy NEVER tell anyone about TOR.

>>109068533

We're nowhere near any of this, if anything we're going the other way, it's positively puzzling

>>109068537
Someone's gonna. I do lowkey encourage ppl teaching others about tools for online privacy.

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>>109068540
>if anything we're going the other way
What? Palantir is deeply entrenched with the US gov, the co-founder of Palantir is doxing a young man for not wanting to work with Jews

>>109068560

Notice how you have to reach for abstract hypotheticals (something we've been doing for decades now) rather than tangible obvious signs of becoming a totalitarian police state where you can't even turn your computer on without government id, or they arrest and torture you

>>109068578
A sad reality to-be.

>>109068578
Palantir is already tracking US citizens for their political beliefs, being openly against Trump or ICE puts them on a surveillance list. The American government already spies on US citizens.

>>109068406
>There were always teens doing borderline soft porn videos with intent of provoking lust
Nope. I grew up with interwebs myself, video uploading was a thing during *that age* and times were much more free, when you could probably post soft port on early youtube for real. Yet nobody I know did that. Guess, people were going out more often though.
> the company itself allows and promotes this because it makes them money, and they look the other way when it comes to underage teens doing these types of videos
no no no
Tiktok as a company paid money. In order to show me. Underaged barely dressed girls. Dancing like strippers. And welcomed me to join their video platform. Spammed that for a year or so.
That's not all, I am pretty sure they paid those kids money to do that. There can be no mistake, I saw that with my own eyes and not once.
inb4 targeted aids: nope, impossibru, those were like 12yo, which is not my thing
Another thing I forgot to mention. Teenagers kinda have sexuality, so it probably targeted them. It's a weird one and rarely considered, but you see, when you're like 12-13, you'd be intrigued with girls your age doing those soft porn things, while an adult (the non pedo one) would consider that to be weird and lame. So I mean, it was just ads for teenagers as well. Manifestation of that joke about child porn being just porn for children to watch.
Anyways, fact ramains: tiktok company paid money to minors to do that and paid money to advertisers to show that. That includes big tech as far as I remember.
>>109068406
>games like Andy and Leyley which normalize incest
Nah. It's typical splatterpunk shit. Violence is not depicted there as normal, it's the opposite.
Popular again because it was not popular for a while. Spikes of interest towards it usually are short lived.
> you have now Pragmata which normalizes pedophilia
pretty sure it's a daddy simulator, designed for your parental instinct exploitation
> uoh emoji
Not sure if I want to know

>>109068606
I mean on tiktok there was always that kind of content no matter who owned tiktok

>>109068406
In general I agree that it's always about money, but when it comes to CCP with their tiktok, it get's much more complicated. They don't really count money when the want to get something done.

>>109068614
I thought so too, but TikTok was sold and nothing changed except anti semitism dropped and pro trump content appears more promoted

>>109068554
I would also agree but as soon as these fucks get wind of TOR, guess what, TOR banned.

i am not extreme tech savvy so idk if a TOR exe from 5 years ago still works, so if it did we could just use old builds, but the point is soon as the normies get wind, the powers that be will shut it down. Or try to. I don't think they themselves could ever stop TOR, its world wide anti establishment tier community created. like TPB.

>>109068647
Tor has bridges. It is not easy to ban.

>>109062968
>stop the country from imploding
Thats not the play at all. The UK government, regardless of whoever is in charge, has been taking steps towards a surveillance state for decades. The end goal is to stop the shitizens from ever being able to rise up against them while squeezing us even more.

>>109068665
Yeah that is what I mean where world wide. Sure they can ban individual sites and any site held in specific countries but like TPB, you have a proxy in botswana or iran, good luck enforcing their shit there.
Funny enough I was using it yesterday and my IP was in teran.

>>109062387
If they required age verification for VPNs, this wouldn't actually lose any privacy. You can have fully anonymous and untraceable age verification.

>>109068712
I imagine that more technical bureocrats know that, but their fundamental goal is to ban 99% of anonymous people not 100%
And while they can't get 99% either, a good number of people will just be too uninterested to learn how Tor works, let alone how to get a bridge working.
And that is not counting that Tor is slow so the experience for using non approved websites will still be degraded and will over time psychologically push people back to the allowed platforms.

>>109068735
The same age verification companies that routinely get hacked will be used. And it defeats the UK government's goals of tying IDs to online posts to make it easier to resteict free speech

>>109068784
Apparently the EFF and GNU organizations came up with a way of age verificiation that is also still anonymous, but the governments ignored them.

>>109068735
> a VPN service owned by random Israeli or local big shot who lobbied this law
> all your traffic goes though it
> they get your credit card data
> privacy

>>109068784
>age verification companies that routinely get hacked
Yeah, sure.
> collect user data
> someone wants to buy it
> make sure cybersecurity checkmarks are in place
> transfer all the data, announce security breach
> apologise
> ?????
> profit

>>109067468
...but they can regardless

>>109068784
>>109068792
Genuinely brainless cattle. If you don't trust the VPN provider then maybe you shouldn't be sending all your internet through them. If you trust someone enough to use them as a VPN, the minimum they should have is cryptographically secure 3rd party age verification. If they don't have that, you should have never used them as a VPN.

>>109068880
All VPN companies will give up your details to your government except for Mullvad. And why would Mullvad comply with age verification requirements? They're not a UK company.

>>109068699
>The end goal is to stop the shitizens from ever being able to rise up against them
like i said, stop the country from imploding. they've literally ruined the country and will go full fascist to retain control

>>109068220
that is because of the porn boards* albeit, not because it's social media

*in reality I'm sure it's because it allows politically incorrect posts, but that's not the reason Ofcom gives

>>109068792
So all you are telling me, is that you just need to avoid doing the /pol/ schizo rants about jews ruling the world because you can't get pussy and they will leave you alone?
Because that is a fair deal to me, i don't really give a fuck if Israel, murders every mudslime Palestine child and mounts their heads on spikes.
Leave me alone to talk about JRPGs in peace.
I am not a political actvist or """""dissent""""" brained Johnny Silverhand.

>>109069057
>let me play with my funko pops in peace!
we've reached peak cuckery. well done england. you've won it

>>109069067
Why should i dedicate my life to attacking the state of Israel? Over some conspiracy theory that have never been proven.

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>>109069057
>/pol/ schizo rants about jews ruling the world
Are those rants really schizo if Jews will try to make you unemployable for refusing to work for them?

>>109068061
>Genuinely this is one of the worst places in the world to exist in.
this

>>109069073
>conspiracy theory that have never been proven.
You're making it to obvious, hasbara

>>109069090
>to
*too
inb4
>minor spelling mistake

>>109069076
>Keep calling a guy something with 0 proof
>No chance of clearing their names
>You just have endless moving the goalpost arguments and having to account for thing that happens 1000s of years before they were born.
>So they give up and just attack back in self defense.
Can you prove that Netunyahoo did the USS Liberty?
Because all records state that he was a nobody when it happened.

>>109069076
stop spamming irrelevant shit, cunt
sick of you cunts

>>109069076
>Say NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER in public
>Polite people show you the fucking door because you shit on the carpet.
They are just removing you from polite society. People who shit on carpets like you the Jew sperg here. Don't deserve to be in polite society.
So they are getting removed by the moderators.
If you do not like it. Make your own business empire :)
No shirt no shoes no service bro lol fag.