It's know it's hard getting a real opinion on Apple here when you can't tell whether their opinion are from astroturfing shills, people that don't use them but have opinions on them anyway, memes, or from people that actually do use them, but I'll ask anyway. When you look at smartphones now compared to what they were over a decade, iphones were overpriced and lagged behind in features that Android already had. There was a lot of choice in different android vendors too which gave the option of more choice, more freedom, but today, it's mostly just Apple vs Samsung. There's still a few other Android phones to choose from, like Pixel phones that you can put GrapheneOS on, and there's still Sony Xperia phones, but I don't know much about those. A lot of the brands that we had in the early 10s are gone and now our choice is just a few brands, and if you're not using Graphene OS, you'll have to deal with Google's enshittification, and with the shit they're doing, they can affect custom ROMs too. With price, androids were always the affordable ones, and there are still cheap models like Samsung A series for basic shit, but for things better than that, I don't think there's much difference in price anymore. Apple has cheaper phones while Android have more expensive phones now.With laptops, it's the same. You only have a few options. Regular laptops with Microsoft pre-installed are crap and have crap hardware. Framework laptops are overpriced, and the older Thinkpads are on hardware from over a decade and a half. Macbooks, IDK, I haven't used an Apple product since the ipod touch, and I'm hesitant getting locked into an ecosytem, but still, I want to consider all options.
>>109063639No.
It used to be the case that Apple products were overpriced but now their products are just normally priced. The Apple product is always the best one in its price bracket but the catch is that you have to become a slave to the Ecosystem™ to get any use out of it.
>>109063663fpbp
>>109063639Since 2020 Google and Apple have been speedrunning making Android and iOS more and more fungible. All remaining differences in 2026 are extremely marginal. But that doesn't mean you wouldn't experience switching costs from inane things. So it's best to stick with whatever you're already using.>>109063677>the EcosystemBiggest meme of all time. Apple has publicly stated that over 60% of their customers only Apple product is an iPhone, albeit that was before airpods existed I think. All you have to do is look at iOS vs macOS marketshare, or Roku TV vs Apple TV marketshare, or fitbit vs apple watch marketshare. to realize the ecosystem is an advertising point not something people actually experience.
>>109063639Yes, gniggers are just angry that people prefer stuff that just werks
>>109063677Its also use to be the case that their products were superior to barging bin PC manufacturers, but time makes fools of us all.
>>109063639Yes. If you keep reading the buzzwords and whataboutism that goes on this autistic board long enough, no it is not worth it. Just get a Thinkpad and be a dope like all the other dopey people who visit here.>Posted from my iPad Pro M1 with Magic Keyboard Folio
>>109063639their stuff lasts a long time. I traded in my 2019 intel mbp this year and still got $250 from apple for it, and it was still going strong. I could have ran it for years on an older version of the OS but I wanted the M4 chipset. I also have an iphoneXR that went for 6 years, I have two OG Homepods that are still working just fine, appletv box still going strong, etc.So, the quality is pretty high in my experience. Of course, I don't throw my shit around or mistreat it, which always helps. My advice is that if you do go down the apple path, try to adapt to their way of doing things when possible. It's much better than getting bent over Cut/Copy/Paste and similar shit.
>>109063639Buy refurbished 16 inch m1 pro/max2 active fans120hz display99wh battery32gb ram (optimal is 48+ if you render 4k vids)External ssd enclosure tied to case cheapest way to get more space.
>>109063639i refuse to spend tons of money for a laptop with 2 usb c ports or a phone with 60 hz, also i refuse to spend money for software or browser extensions.
>>109063639it's worth it. The best way to describe it is like your mind gets freed up, you're not wasting time figuring out stupid bullshit or dealing with enshittified systems, you can just focus on other stuff instead of the hardware/software problems
>>109063677>It used to be the case that Apple products were overpriced but now their products are just normally priced.This is why I got an iPhone. Good Android phones used to be way cheaper than iPhones, so there's no reason to buy them anymore now that they cost the same.
food analogy
>>109063639Macintosh computers are great, and macOS is better than Windows. Everything else they make is trash. Never buy an iPhone, an Apple Watch, an iPad or a pair of AirPods.
>>109064093asahi status?
>>109063639For me its about privacy. I run a linux desktop and use iphone since its a good balance between ease of use and no corposhit. That being said, they started an internal advertising division and they added ads to apple maps, maybe ill switch off to graphene. my last android was a galaxy s5 tho which was fucking awful compared to my iphone
>>109063639>Are Apple products actually worth it?iPhones are shit (although, they are Apple's main source of income).Apple computers (Macbook, Mac Mini, whatever) are awesome.Get a Mac, but for your phone, I would avoid Apple. Just use localSend if you need to transfer files between your phone and computer.
>>109065280>For me its about privacy.Apple is the wrong choice for privacy. Virtually everything they do is closed source, none of it is freely auditable. You literally have no way of knowing what's happening in the background of your iDevice.
>>109065315Apple is basically the only big tech company that litigates in favour of privacy. While Stallman grovelled and demanded that the government be free to inject your body with experimental mRNA treatments, Apple's been fighting in court to protect your right to end-to-end encryption.
>>109065315I know that but also its better than jewgle
>>109065342That's lovely, but the fact remains that you do not know what your computer is doing when you buy a computer from them. All their marketing around privacy essentially just boils down to "trust me bro."And let's be clear here; no single company is your friend. You must always assume that everything a corporation does is in their own best interest, and if their interests happen to line up with yours occasionally, great! But never assume you have the allegiance of any company. They will all betray you given any incentive because a company's purpose isn't to care about your privacy or do what's right. A company's purpose is to make money.We all saw how this went in 2021 with their little iCloud image hashing stunt. Apple is not your friend. For privacy, it's best to use a system you don't HAVE to trust because you KNOW how it works and can audit or edit any part of it freely.
>>109065368Sure, Google is not your friend either, but Android is an open source OS. There are degoogled forks you can use. You don't have to trust it.
>>109065386Google does android development in private branches now and many components are closed source. Either way you get closed source binaries. Id rather get mine from a company thats primary income is not from selling user data. Lesser of two evils
>>109065404Privacy and security are matters of odds. Your privacy is less likely to be breached by a system that is auditable and customizable to at least some extent than by one that is essentially a black box system that gives the user 0 insight into its operations. But if AOSP's tolerances are too much for you, it would be better to not use a smartphone at all and instead use different dedicated devices for different tasks. Inconvenient, but private.
Only vintage Apple hardware is “worth it” and by that I mean worth fixing, upgrading, and using as a daily driver. You will be more productive as a creator with a vintage Mac. When I bring college geek girls into my home and they see my retro “workspace” I can immediately sense their pussies moistening in anticipation. Sex always follows after I boot up a few games on my SE/30
>>109065429Thats the thing tho i like the convenience of using a banking app and having a phone for maps and renting from bikeshares. I cant use a custom rom or roll my own android so im gonna go with iOS every time. If apple starts selling my data to advertisers then the choice would be harder
>>109063639iPads are midiPhones are badThe base M4 Mac Mini was decent when it was like $500Macbook Airs are decent, MacOS is kind of between Windows and Linux IMOPros aren't worth it, nor are pretty much any spec upgrades
>>109065510I'm speaking solely in terms of base hardware, and I don't engage with sourceless bullshitHave a pity (You) for your meaningless bait thread nigger, I forgot /g/ is all retarded 17 year olds now
>>109065458If you value convenience more than privacy, that's a perfectly legitimate stance, but you will have to accept that neither option here is totally safe. I will say, though, that degoogled Android gets closer to that threshold than iOS does because of its internal structure, even though the entity that maintains it has terrible privacy standards outside of that. >I cant use a custom rom or roll my own android Why not?
>>109063639If you can tolerate how locked down they are I think iPhones are worth it. They get security updates for like twice as long as the competition.
>>109063639Macs have top-tier CPUs with low power draw, but mid GPUs. Their unified memory makes them good for local AI and some other 3d stuff. If you are an engineer or a gamer you might find that the software you need is not usable without emulation or a vm. They are alright.
>>109063639As someone who got a macbook 4 years ago and have ignored the general mac ecosystem. I'm really happy with it, they are really built to last if you don't treat them like shit which I didn't expect. So far every part is still in healthy condition, even the battery and I've been using it like 18 hours a day every day. No idea what you'd use your computer for, but at least from general usage it does the job well.
>>109065534I value convenience. I would use graphene if i didnt. I probably wont ever switch tho i just accepted a job offer at apple lol. Maybe one day when im rich ill go all out on a fsf approved setup and live in the countryside
My thing about the iPad is most of them use the M series chips but don't actually do anything with them. What's the point of putting the same chip in a tablet that powers the iMac but give it the same software that runs on the iPhone? The iPad has so much horsepower but doesn't let you do anything with it except watch Netflix and check your email. You can't even develop iPad apps on an iPad.
>>109065243You can run Asahi on the M1 Pro, but honestly, it's not worth it because you won't see any software optimization at all. For instance, Safari performs way better than other browsers on silicon, and that's just a fact.If you want linux laptop, buy used intel panther lake or ai max ryzen.
>>109065561You're an idiot. Can see an see an apple in your mind?
>>109065463Most PC niggers go to Walmart and buy whats cheap and bitch because it can't do this or that or slow as fuck.Most people that buy a PC just buy cheap shit. They never upgrade besides replacing the whole system. Most businesses never upgrade their systems, they just replace then ever so many years.
>>109065561That's fine too. This guy >>109065575 isn't me btw
>>109063639Yes.Bought a M4 Mac Mini with 24GB RAM and 512GB Storage. Do pretty much everything besides run games on it. I got a Windows 11 PC and the only time it gets used is for a few games. If I send the time I can get time to run on it but I do enough computer shit at work that I do even want to work on my systems at home. Windows is the most shit tier OS but Microsoft fan boys will back it with. If Bill Gates was gay, Microsoft fan boys will let him butt fuck them.
>>109065575Learn english thirdie
>>109063639Best linux laptop i ever had was a x86 mac one.Shit just works on it, and after linuxed, it's a rocket.
>>109065609If you want to game on macbooks try playcover (nightly updated version) basically native version of IOS vidya no emulation on desktop macs.Embrace gacha gaming ... shit like genshin, honkai star rail, neverness to everness, tft are fun vidyas, they are constantly updated with new content too.
I just wish Apple didn't force Apple ID. I've always hated the idea of having an online account tied to a device, not just for privacy/security reasons but also just being an abstraction. I don't understand why it can't if I want to download an app or update something just let me use it without an Apple ID and just input my information whenever necessary. Hell, if they want an account tied to that stuff, fine, but the account should be specifically for the App Store and iCloud, not the whole device. And I don't even care about iCloud to begin with. I do respect Apple's model, but I do also wonder if getting a Pixel with custom firmware could work. But something about the design of iOS is just very intuitive for a phone, they just got it right the first time.
>>109065434How exactly do you make that work though? I'm sure you could push it remarkably far for stuff like text editing and basic development though.>>109065473Yes, but Apple hides it better. That's why people don't hate them as much as Google, because their black boxes are marketed as more premium and "secure" even if it's just a different asshole
>>109065676You don't need account to download software or use macbook.You can completely disable SIP if you want to.
>>109065753I don't own a Mac. I own an iPhone. I've considered looking into one before though, but not sure. I do admire how Apple designs things I also just don't really like lock-in though either.
Apple is locked down, which is better for security. Also, while does spy on you, they're not nearly as bad as Google. Google makes money selling your private data, Apple makes their money selling hardware and subscriptions. So, I would rank Apple top tier in security and mid-tier for privacy.
>>109065568If you use UTM to run a VM the M series chip might be worth it but desu the real reason to get an iPad isn't the chip it's for the form factor of the Mini
Historically, Apple's core strength has been optimization, not security. We're talking about the same company that gave us the effective power glitch here.There used to be a saying: Apple can do with 8 GB what other companies can't do with 16. That used to be true, but they've been slipping hard for the last 5 years or so, so it's no longer really accurate. Their software is glitchy and bloated AF nowadays. So there isn't really much of a benefit to buying their stuff anymore.Their only saving grace right now is Apple Silicon. I never thought I'd see a day where this was the case but Apple's laptops are genuinely far more powerful than just about any Windows machine you could get for the same price or less. Other than that, steer clear.
this 97-year-old schizoposter still derails /fag/ threads the intel mac way
>>109066179>If you use UTM to run a VM the M series chip might be worth itit's not. it was when you could jailbreak your iPad and unlock full hardware virtualization and have aarch64 OSes run at near native performance, now it's just useless slow emulation. a macbook air is a better device for virtualization
>>109063639MacBook Airs are reasonably priced compared to the competition, especially if you look at 13" and cheapest configs. AirPods are pretty good compared to other TWS earbuds too. I don't know about others
I tried out Apple in 2023 and got a 14 PM phone, AirPod Pro 2, Apple Watch Ultra, and a M3 Max MBPEasily the Macbook was the most worth it with the Air Pods 2nd after I got the Pro 3s, ANC is almost as good as my Bose Quiet Ultra and they're very lightWatch is a meme, my gf had one from 2018 and it keeps up, not worth $800 when a MacBook Neo is $600 iPhones are a meme too, especially the Pro Max, all 17 series have 120HZ just get the cheapest oneWith all the bullshit price increases a base Max chip MacBook is still $3500 and if you get one from MicroCenter you can get the unbinned for the same priceMacBook shits hard on everything else Apple makes, night and day difference from the pre COVID ones2023 I spent half of $10K on this and the other half on 24k gold bars, in hindsight I should've just bought all gold and ran a thinkpad
>>109063639iPads were ruined by iPadOS 26 ruining multitasking. If you can get an Air 4th gen model with iPadOS 18 on, it's a great notetaking tool.
>>109063639>Can't properly use Nextcloudfuck apple and their proprietary bullshit.>bro just give us money and use our cloud so we can scan everything you upload lol
>>109063639That depends. If you are a hobbyist and like tinkering with stuff, go with linux. If you want a machine that is reliable and just works, get a Macbook.
Let's say I don't want to save shit on iCloud, how do I get a file expeditiously from iPhone to Windows or vice-versa? There is no way apart from uploading to another cloud platform to then download it from there. At least with Android you can use Bluetooth.
>>109067378>Post about how great Apple Silicon Macbooks are>ends with "I should never have bought any of this shit and just gone with a thinkpad"Well, alright.
>>109063639>phone, laptopgreat>ipadgreat if you’re a drawfag / do creative shit, otherwise neat but useless>smartwatchdecent but I’d rather have one of those bands where battery lasts a week>headphonesoverpriced, kinda meh quality>desktopnah
>>109069294>how do I get a file expeditiously from iPhone to Windows or vice-versa?localsend
>>109069294You can transfer shit through any usb-c device like an external ssd or a pendrive for several years nowor you can use one of the ftp apps to do it wirelessly
>>109064809>not wasting time figuring out stupid bullshit or dealing with enshittified systemsthat was true before they started using ARM chips in computers. now all I do is waste time on trying to run programs on the retarded hardware that's not compatible with anything
>>109069448Let's say you're in an area with patchy internet?
No lol
Yes lol
>>109069448>localsendTrannyware
my only gripe nowadays is being unable to download a goddamn video via safari
Is it possible to run vphone-cli in a container with macOS? I need a demonstration if possible.
>>109063639They're worth it if you can get them free, i'm trying to scum my sister's 2017 braodwell macbook air because that mf light as fuck and I can put my linux on it.
>>109070870Here's your demo, bro1. Buy rope2. Find high crossbeam
Yes if you need the fastest 2TB phone on the planet. No for literally every other reason there is another product that is better either for more or less moneyBut currently Apple are the only people on the planet that make the fastest 2TB phone
>>109071011Except apple is shit
>>109065568Especially iPad Pro is kind of hilarious on how it has a balls-to-the-walls chip that is genuinely insane for a device of such form factor, but then the OS is so limited that it’s really hard to imagine any scenario where you could realistically need such power with it.
>>109071551>but then the OS is so limited that it’s really hard to imagine any scenario where you could realistically need such power with it.Kek my sister bought one of those iPad pros in 2022 and she doesn't even use the motherfucker, just keeps using her iPhone 14 Pro because it does the same shit when she should've gotten an Air to replace her Broadwell one and had a desktop OS on an admittedly impressive CPU.
>>109063663FPBP
>>109064093>$800 USD for this garbageWho actually buys these? You have to be retarded to think this is a good price
use an apple computer at the store and see it for yourself windows is actually not any slower. apple being perfect seems like a make-believe people who managed to scrape together to buy an apple computer hold on dearly.and you cannot play games on macs so I don't understand why this is a conversation at all. mac computers are a categorical failure.
>>109071751What Apple does that is so brilliant despite their shit specs of the product is emphasize on things non computer people can see and feel, like high dpi displays and PCIe flash storage before it was common, a normie retard doesn't give a shit about a PC laptop with a bunch of RAM and an i7 and a 1920x1080 17 inch screen and a 1TB 7200 rpm spinner, they see the most beautiful 13 inch laptop screen they've ever seen, and stuff loading instantly and they'll pay the $1,699 for a base Retina Macbook Pro retina with 128GB of storage, they don't care that it was a dual core i5, they don't care about the storage, it "seemed" to go faster than a PC and it looked nice.
>>109071722The sheep will buy anything social media tells them to
>>109071751I almost bought a macbook neo today until i saw the store had a decent asus laptop cut down to the same price on a deali asked them how many neos they were selling and they said they were barely keeping them in stock with the rate they are selling at
>>109071822>they were barely keeping them in stock with the rate they are selling atI'm not surprised, $699 is exactly in PC laptop territory where Apple's never been before, it's like the Mac Mini all over again, and I don't even like Apple but the Mac Mini was based because no one was making cheap, small, low power computers pre-NUC.
I grew up with Windows and Android.Nowadays I dual boot Windows/Kubuntu and I am a reluctant iOS user**I use a company issued iPhone as my sole phoneThe good:>Phone feels high quality>Good software support (5+ years of updates)>It's literally the default choice, so tons of cases and other phone accessories >Third party apps tend to work better since they only have to develop for a small set of hardware (Vs the 1000s of Android variants)The bad:>Default keyboard is pretty terrible. You can install a third party one but it will sometimes default back to the stock one>Base iPone still uses USB 2.0The ugly>File management is farsical mess. After five years I still have no idea where a downloaded file gets saved and how I can access it in the future. Dragging and dropping files using a cable connected to your PC is impossible in the big 2K26Now regarding MacOS: borrowing a MacBook for 10 minutes should be enough to develop a full immunity Vs ever wanting to use that 'OS' again
>>109071551Apple really likes using overpowered chips for menial tasks. Look at the Studio Display. There's an entire iPhone chip in there. It's a screen, a camera and some Thunderbolt ports.
>>109071998>Good software support (5+ years of updates)That is one thing impressive with Apple that even Android doesn't do, my S22 only went 4 system updates before I had to get a new phone to keep going, but the fucking iPhone 6s got 6 years of iOS support, and the last security update it got was in May of 2026, a fucking 2015 phone has better support than an android.
i fucking hate using macos at work and its 100% only because they CHANGED ALL THE FUCKING KEY SHORTCUTS what the fuck is this option apple command garbage how the FUCK DO I GET OUT OF TMUX i don't know whats going on everyone is looking at my screen share im an i3 linux wizard and im FUCKED
>>109071722Can you point me to another laptop cheaper than that with equal or better specs?
>>109072074a new m5 air is $1000 you should just get one of those
>>109072067>move from Windows to macOS>"wtf? why isn't this Windows?"many such cases
>>109072086That's the same thing but slightly more expensive with a slightly less powerful processor and lower refresh rate display.
>>109072093i am linux on a linux computer and now i am using macos to manage linux and the buttons are fucking swapped around for no reason except to vender lockin grandma
>>109072127>move from Linux to macOS>"wtf? why isn't this Linux?"many such cases
>>109072146why not have a command apple option instead? think different ^tm
lets roll it with a set of similarly named commands that have different arguments also so that when you use it you can think differently on purpose
>>109072159why not just let each OS be its own thing?
Switched to Mac in 2007. Never looked back. Pretty happy with my MacBook Neo and Minecraft looks gorgeous on my Studio Display with a Mac Mini M4 Pro. That said, my AMD HP Envy with Windows 10 was pretty comfy as well. I've always been skeptical of Apple's next move but macOS is still a good piece of software. Both for doing work and whatever else.
>>109072188yes! they should swap left/right click as well. because why not?
>>109072127>"for no reason except to vender lockin">says this while complaining about why this new unfamiliar OS isn't like the OS he's accustomed tolol. lmao.
>>109072207unironically correct. the whole purpose of different OSes is that they are different. if you encounter an OS and it behaves in a way you don't like, you go back to the OS you do like. and if you have to use this new OS for work, you suck it up like the professional you're hired to be and use it despite not liking it.
>>109072218yes i keep saying this to our CTO but he keeps calling me a faggot
>>109072241Maybe that's because you ARE a faggot?
>>109072241have you considered not being a faggot?
>>109072193Why on earth would you use a Studio Display with a Mac mini? You spent more in the display than the computer itself.
>>109072098According to Apple's marketing the new ones are substantially faster (which isn't saying much because they were dogshit to begin with) so M1 is actually e-waste. See how much an aluminum buyer offers you for the metal.
>>109071998>USB 2.0Really? I thought the Lighting cables all used Thunderbolt
Yeah it's pretty worth it. My computahs ranked:>M1 Air (God tier, will be hard to ever beat)>M4 base macbook pro>i7 8700, gtx1060 later upgraded to RX 7700. Ubuntu was comfy tier when doing only schoolwork, but need win 11 to game.>old Acer prebuilt with garbage gt 630 or something>My dads win vista PC, ran skyrim with shit settings at 3-40fps>1k sony vaio laptop, hot noisy and slow but enough to play csgo (it rhymed)>Microsoft Surface Book, this tablet windows 10 thing was the biggest piece of trash I have ever used, ever
>>109072392>i7 8700Can confirm, it's old at this point but it's still a comfy as fuck 65w processor
>>109072269yes at least several times per day
>>109072402I get lots of stutters in many gaymes, Squad is unplayable. Looked into upgrading for 2-3 years but it too expensive. It's good enough I guess.I tried turning it into a promox server but it's way too loud compared to my raspberry sadly
>>109065342/thread
>>109072480It's a real shame the gaming performance is suffering due to age, but man as a daily system with 32GB of RAM it's amazing, it's the computer I switched to Linux on, and it fucking flies.
>>109072392
my hp chromebook 11 g1 from like 2013 is more powerful than a macbook. them things is pieces of shit.
>>109072594this kills the iJeet
>>109063639The user experience is still good, but it has consistently declined each generation for over 10 years now in my opinion. I feel the same way you do, OP, in that everything is just getting shittier and blending together. Fucking black rectangle bullshit.That said, the software is simply decent. Android feels very cobbled together by comparison. Apple seems to at least care or try to do shit that makes for a good user experience, whereas Android feels more like it was designed by committee and they needed to check a bunch of boxes that are sometimes in conflict.Is it worth it? You generally get lower specs, longer hardware support, and MUCH better warranty support. The last part is the most important part. Often times you even get to speak to an American instead of a foreign call center. Android might be more value on paper and more value for the horsepower.Like you said, everything blends together today. I feel like a slave to this shit instead of the sparkly eyed excited geek i used to be
>>109073130oh and macbooks it's not even close. You get a UNIX-like OS and they're built pretty decently. The wangblows alternatives all cost the fucking same anyway. Every high end laptop is now 2 grand and every cheap shit laptop is now 500-600. I don't know if I trust the cheap macbook to be honest since Jobs said he'd never do shit like that and they went from those fucking shitty color plastic iphones which were a FLOP to now infecting the macbook line with that retard tier mindset. Not optimistic about apple for the future but is there something consistently better in one brand? no.
>>109072054apple studio display has hardware fast enough to run macos standalone
>>109072967>is more powerful than a macbook.lol it's not it's slower than a 2020 iphone
>>109064093Probably the best option for 4k content creators. Windows has never been able to manage efficient content creation to this day. I say that having a window pc.
>>109073143do the needful pajeet
>>109064093>>109074625>>109074600>>109074573>>109073143take the poo to the loo
>>109070742literally why does it matter. you niggers are like ritual cultists who act as if a software is made unclean because its used or made by some trans and must be tossed into the fire. either provide a better alternative or stop wasting peoples time
>>109071998how is the keyboard terrible? i've always just used the stock keyboard, has always just worked. literally almost zero complaints there. every third party keyboard is ugly and bloated
Can any macbros recommend me a usb hub or dock?I just got a 24gb/1tb Macbook Air M5 today and would like to connect it to my two 27" 2k 120hz monitors at some point. I've read online the easiest and cheapest way is to just buy two usb-c to displayport cords but that would end up using all the usb-c ports on the macbook. Is there any hub or dock option that would allow me to connect to two displayports or hdmis into it and then connect that hub to a single thunderbolt 4 port on the macbook?
>>109075181yea there's lots of em
>>109075181> connect to two displayports or hdmis into it Lot of offered, but few works good. Just order some and send the bad ones back. Imo not a mpment to be cheap.>>109063639>Are Apple products actually worth itFor me not, i am used to Win/Thinkpad and after a few months on McBook i started to hate it (usually io do not care because my contact to the OS is Midnight/Total Commander and powershell etc). Good machine for tech illeterates, Apple helds the resale value high but it's feels like driving a US car on a German Autobahn, simply do not fit.
>>109063639A coworker of mine is wanting to sell his Mac mini m1 for ~$180, but Im thinking of talking him down to $150. Is that a good price for it?It's configured with 16GB of ram and 1TB of storage.Just wondering if M1 is still worth it. I just want it as a dev box so I can build and test software for apple devices too.
>>109075181Can't you daisy chain shit on the Mac? I thought that was a big selling point of thunderbolt or whatever.
>>109076354Yeah it's decent for $150, especially since it's got 16Gb of RAM. It's still a perfectly functional computer, better than what I'm using right now for sure lol. The only question is how long Apple will support it, since you can't really run linux or any alternative OS on it, but Apple has a pretty good track record of supporting shit for a long time, even when it's wildly out of date.
>>109076354you'd be in the top 5 percent of /g/ with any apple silicon
>>109075181could literally get a ugreen thunderbolt 5 dock and be fine
>>109063639>>109063639Im using apple products for the past 4 years. Before that I used Ubuntu for about 12 years.Company I started to worked gave me a macbook and an iphone, and once i left, i bought myself also a macbook. the cheapest Air at that time. I always hated on apple because of /g/, then I stopped being stupid and actually formed my own opinion. In web development, I need to make sure stuff works everywhere so developing on mac solves the Safari and iOS issue when testing.I love that it can be operated like a linux machine and is not just built as a layer over it like on Windows when you try to use bash for example.Yes its expesnive. But this laptop battery is crazy and the screen is good enough that i now just use it regardless of traveling or actually siting at home. I also bought my own iphone after i had to return the company one, purely because of the integratoins.everyone tells you that "android had this and that for ages" but its not about the specs, its about the design. Simply something being very easy to use makes you use it more and natively. The airpods for example, I connected them after the purchase to the iphone, and its just connected. when i put it in my ears, its already paired, i dont have to do anything. Its the "seemlessness" i appreciate the most. Like shared clipboard between devices for example.
Should I get an iPhone 17 for the 120hz screen or a 17e for the bigger battery and better modem?
>>109076571>Apple has a pretty good track record of supporting shit for a long time, even when it's wildly out of dateGive me 1 instance of this
>>109079433They supported 2010-2012 iMacs and Mac Pros until 2020-2022. That’s a decade.
>>109079465Ah so they drop them as soon as they release Apple Non-silicon and dropped Intel. Got it.
>>109078909Samsung is the best option every time.https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=14050&idPhone2=14487&idPhone3=14042
>>109079433the iphone 7 that was released in 2016 is still getting security updates, latest one was last month.
>>109079433https://youtu.be/hF8swzNR1-o?t=715
Every apple thread is a win/linux user cope session.If you could play your precious windows games on it, you'd see the board instantly turn from /g/ to /apple/ support board.
>>109063639Yes if you are already in the ecosystem.No if you are poor.Ultimately everything is going to get shit anyway as the surveillance states ramp up more. If you still use your devices for more than 2 hours a day within the next decade, you are cucked.
>>109063639get an xperia (III or IV that are the last ones with notifications led) and put a custom rom on itget a thinkpad, even recent ones are good, worse than the old ones but still good enough, and put linux on if
I bought a Macbook Neo recently because I needed a new laptop and the price was decent and I'm actually fairly happy with it. This is coming from someone that's been an Apple hater for years.
>>109063639Only Apple product I own is a set of wired (3.5mm) earbuds, and they're genuinely the best earbuds I've ever used. (Worth noting, I hate rubber tips, so I'm limited in my choices, before the earbuds my favorites were the Nokia default followed by Samsung default). Buttons only work on iOS and Mac, but I knew that going in and didn't mind
macs have:>soldered SSD/RAM/WLANdoesnt exist on 99% of PCs>when pajeetOS runs out of RAM it swapfile rapes the SSD to death within 3 yearsdoesnt exist on 99% of PCs>when the SSD dies it bricks your entire currybook because the EFI is stored on the soldered SSD to save $0.05 on a dedicated chipdoesnt exist on 99% of PCs>components serial numbered and tied to the motherboard to prevent repair and replacement (including battery)doesnt exist on 99% of PCs>riveted keyboard that requires total destruction of the chassis to replacedoesnt exist on 99% of PCs>flexgate cables that are so brittle they crack from opening your screen past 90 degrees more than 2 dozen timesdoesnt exist on 99% of PCs>screens so fucking shit they have over 90ms response times (essentially 10Hz)doesnt exist on 99% of PCs>screen made from pajeet trash glass that cracks from temperature change in seasons or tape over the iBotnet webcamdoesnt exist on 99% of PCs>so fire and explosion prone the FAA have banned them from all flightsdoesnt exist on 99% of PCs>uses phone CPU that's so shit it gets destroyed by decade old i3s from 2017 and can only "compete" by cheating at benchmarks in extreme edge cases with hardware acceleratorsdoesnt exist on 99% of PCs>curryniggers at apploo get so full of sniffing their own currynigger silicon shit they ship currybooks with no fans and they run so hot they melt the keyboard keysdoesnt exist on 99% of PCs>keyboards with 63.5% failure rateunheard of on PCs, and yet you curryniggers defend it with "jus werx fer me!"just because you're in the 36.5% survivor group doesn't make your currynigger trash any goodthis list goes on foreverthere's no PC laptop as total fucking currynigger shit as crapple's streetshitter booksthey are the biggest heaps of steaming currynigger shit in the history of computing second only to curryPhones
>>109063639for PCs, build your ownfor laptops, buy used and install linuxfor phones, i used to prefer android but they're finally all shit. and Google is Israeli
>>109063811>>the Ecosystem>Biggest meme of all time. Apple has publicly stated that over 60% of their customers only Apple product is an iPhoneIt's a sad state of affairs. As someone who is actually deep in the Apple ecosystem (the only devices from the main categories that I don't own are Watch and Vision Pro) I would say that Mac / MacBooks are the main reason for hopping in the bandwagon. If I didn't use a macOS device, I would probably use a Framework or System76 laptop with some Linux distro and an AMD Risen AI chip with a nice amount of unified memory. I understand why the normies are raving about iPhones, iPads and their nice MacBook Airs with which they write emails and watch YouTube, and I'm grateful if they do since without them Mac would be a tiny platform. The phones and the tablets are nice but they are not significantly better than the competition. iOS and iPadOS might share the kernel with macOS but you only get the benefits of the UNIX on macOS.
>>109083313>you only get the benefits of the UNIX on pajeetOS.do the needful saaarrr
>>109083313>Framework or System76 laptopOverpriced, just like MacBooks.
>>109063639Apple products are nice, better than Framework
>>109083403Yeah that might well be but with a lot of other manufacturers you have to first uninstall Windows as your first order of business. Framework and System76 respect your time by offering Linux preinstalled.Don't get me wrong, I have used and have somewhat fond memories of using Windows 98 and Windows XP. As time has went on I've come to realise that there is inherently nothing wrong with the Windows UI (although it's a clusterfuck), but with the fundamentals of the system. If they stopped playing games with WSL and WSL2 and just ditched the NT kernel in favour of an actual Linux kernel and got rid of DirectX for good measure Windows would be a pretty cool distro.With regards to gaymen not working, fuck you. Donate to the Wine project or buy stuff from Steam so Valve can continue developing Proton if gaming is so precious to you.
I have the Macbook Air and I think it was worth it. Feels solid, nice keyboard and screen, good battery. Most importantly, it's completely fanless and never overheats unless doing system upgrades or video encoding (which is rare).Still in 2026 for some reason no PC manufacturer can make a good performing, fanless laptop which I would buy because I prefer Windows over Macos.
>>109083492street shit harder iJeet
>>109083588probably posting from his parents house in his neetcaveunemployed energy there's a reason you're always ignored bitch boi
i like their phones and laptops. ipad sucks though
>>109083602>probably posting from his parents house in his neetcave>unemployed energy there's a reason you're always ignored bitch boi
