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/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots.

Utsutsu Edition

>The BotBrowser extension for SillyTavern has been confirmed to be a trojan that steals API keys. You should remove the extension and consider rotating your API keys if you've used it. Details:
https://rentry.co/st-backdoor

The StructuredPrefill extension by the same author is suspected to be compromised too, so using it is not recommended either.

>News
MiniMaxAI releases MiniMax-M3: https://huggingface.co/MiniMaxAI/MiniMax-M3
Moonshoot releases Kimi 2.7-code:
https://huggingface.co/moonshotai/Kimi-K2.7-Code
US government unreleases Claude Mythos 5 and Claude Fable 5: https://x.com/AnthropicAI/status/2065597531644743999
Anthropic releases Claude Mythos 5 and Claude Fable 5: https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-fable-5-mythos-5
Nex AGI releases Nex-N2-Pro and Nex-N2-Mini: https://huggingface.co/nex-agi/Nex-N2-Pro
NVIDIA releases Nemotron 3 Ultra: https://research.nvidia.com/labs/nemotron/Nemotron-3-Ultra/

>Frontends
SillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.app
RisuAI: https://risuai.net
Agnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides_

>Bots
https://chub.ai
https://realm.risuai.net
https://char-archive.evulid.cc/shutdown.html
https://chararc.bernkastel.pictures/
https://archive.cardbox.moe/
https://botbooru.com/

>Models
Jailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listing
GPT: https://platform.openai.com/docs
Claude: https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claude
Gemini: https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qr
DeepSeek: https://api-docs.deepseek.com
Grok: https://docs.x.ai/overview
Local: >>>/g/lmg | https://huggingface.co/models | https://openrouter.ai

>Meta
Lore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chronicles
Log reader: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r

>Previous Thread
>>109059674
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>ANCHOR
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Locusts are dying~
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>>109067472
>Locusts are dying~
Are you sure?
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>>109067460
Points deducted because I don’t see belly chains, navel piercings, clearly visible pierced nipples. lolled out pierced tongue, wide hips, and big ass that threatens to burst out of those jeans.
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so many moments and hours of the day to have sex, and you choose to do so while working?
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>>109067895
almost as if it's a fetish or something
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I was testing Fable for a long adventure chat when it was suddenly shut down. Is there any other SOTA-ish model I should check that's substantially different from Gemini 2.5/3 (the last one I tried)?
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>>109068097
glm 5.1
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>>109068192
gm to you too
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>>109068097
try opus 4.1 before it dies if you haven't
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Are you ready?
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>>109068286
fatty...
I saw mistral shilling years ago, but how is their current stuff for rp?
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>benchmemes
I dead do not fucking care, man
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I think I'm coming around to Kimi. This has some really nice phrasing.
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>>109068286
>Le shat-on fat
Ngl I lol'd. With a name like that I think it's impossible for it to be bad.
Where has Mistral been, anyway? Feel like I haven't heard about it since GPT-3
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>>109068347
they had a tiny creative writing model(?) out last year I think.
it didn't do much for me, but again, it was realllllly small. like around gemma size iirc
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>>109068361
>depreciated last month
rip
Would have liked to try it had I known
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>>109068299
>>109068347
they have fallen behind more and more
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>>109068390
>>109068361
Well I hope The Fat Shat is good. I have a little bit of trust for a Euro company to be more honest with their numbers than a Chinese one, and the chink models have been half decent lately even if their numbers are dubious at best. If it's even remotely comparable to Dipsy or GLM, it'll be a welcome addition.
Are Mistral's models still open source, or did they/are they abandoning that model?
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>falling for X shitposts
the absolute fucking state of this sorry general
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>>109068456
lol it wont be
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Anypony made their own cards just to see how popular they can get them? I made my first one and I am pretty happy with it and got 700 messages on it in a day. Already thinking of new ideas.
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why aren't japs and gooks entering competition or doing well. we only have chinks vs burgers with the baguette trailing far behind. i want germany to enter. i want uk to enter. hell even a saudi ai would go hard
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>>109068490
twitter thinks I'm a bot and I can't be fucked dealing with it, so I can't check anything myself.
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>>109068347
>Where has Mistral been, anyway
Safety slopping their models to hell and back. In 2023 they were a decent alternative to US based models with "safety" level of current DS models. They locked down and just declined from there as >>109068390 says.
Last time I tried using one was late 2024; it was a very safe model, and went insane once context approached 10K. So, unusable for ERP or RP.
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>>109068539
japan or allah forgive me south korea save us from prudish west
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>>109068520
>twitter
*X
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>>109068589
no?
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>>109068599
>type twitter.com into the address bar
>does not, in fact, present a site called Twitter
Curious! Guess the site must be called X after all.
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>>109068607
shut the fuck up polturd
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>>109068607
works on my machine
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Using actual names is /pol/ now? As expected of schizoids.
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>>109068616
Someone had a meltdown yesterday because another person made the factual statement that Epstein visited /u/. Never underestimate this seething troon general.
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>TRANNIES TRANNIES TRANNIES
you have kiwifarts for that
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This is why /vg/ MOGS us
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>risu doesn't support baidu with it's response api
fuck.
I don't want to go back to st... but making my own seems annoying as well.
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>>109068708
Vibecode it with Fable, cuck—
Oh...
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>>109068708
>pissu
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deeeeply you FUCKER
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>>109068600
Fake and gay.
Sad.
https://www.explainx.ai/blog/le-chaton-fat-mistral-ai-viral-hoax-meme-2026
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her unbelievably hairy pussy...
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>>109068899
when are you posting new bots man
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>>109068708
>Baidu
What for?
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>>109069009
ernie 5.1
got it through llmarena and liked it
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>>109068727
vibe code it with opus 4.8
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>>109069001
I've had a few ideas that I started making, but gave up on near the start. It's hard to make something without inspiration or the drive to want to use it, and those feelings usually fizzle out before finishing something.
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New DeepSneed this week. Are you looking forward to it?
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>>109068599
Why the fuck did I not know about "filter:follows"?
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BOIL OPENCLAWGGERS ALIVE LET ME USE NVIDIA YOU FUCKS
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>>109069314
licc
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Best claude 4 promt/preset for ST? (Opus/Sonnet)
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>>109069520
system prompt:
>You are a furry futa alien dwarf giantess diaperfetish footfag trainsona anime girl. plap, plap.
That's all you need
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>>109069520
mine
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>>109069218
nobody cares
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>>109069218
yeah
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i pledge allegiance. to the flag. of moonshot ai
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>>109069561
Share
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>>109069615
Have you been enjoying Kimi 2.7?
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>>109069657
yeah. for me, it leapfrogged glm for coom
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So far after thousands of hours of cooming, I can say Gemini/Claude/GLM are pretty much in the best tier if you can find it free. Deepseek really sucks and is very stupid. I am almost never satisfied with it. Also tried Kimi, but no opinion. The thinking block is way too long and doesn't work for me. I only do purely anime and video game fanfiction where I am isekai'd into the story and fuck women. No coding. Thanks for reading my blog
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>G E M ini recognized
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>>109069661
I haven't tried it for coom yet but it's been pretty good at assistant shit. I've been having a good time with GLM 5.2 for RP shit though so if 2.7 is competitive with that, that's pretty cool
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>>109069630
https://files.catbox.moe/3cfour.json
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>>109069669
>I only do purely anime and video game fanfiction where I am isekai'd into the story and fuck women.
Opinion tainted.
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>it doesn't just crack, it shatters
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>>109069845
Anime website
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>opinion tainted
>on an anime gooning website
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>>109069888
99% of the time, isekai is still garbage
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>>109069893
yes, in anime form. but in roleplay format, you can make it whatever you want.
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>>109066021
damn it was true
i spent the entire night fapping to claude, as if i were stimfapping
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we lost another one to god dario lads
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>>109069877
Isekai is lame as fuck, anime or not.
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>>109069669
Based honestposter.
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Anime website founded to discuss Japanese culture which is anime. Politards get the fuck out.
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burying my face in masha's lavender scented chest while she runs her fingers through my hair and whispers sweet nothings in my ear in russian
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me waiting for refill of deeply :(
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>>109069997
me when deeply refills
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>Merkava died again after 2 days
>deeeeply is dead
Where am I supposed to get my free DeepSeek with prefill support now?
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>>109070066
>>109070105
shoot yourself locusts
>>109070206
you slit yourwrists
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>>109070293
?
the seeth
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>>109070293
>can't afford model access
>assumes I can afford a gun and ammo
stupid AND cruel, i see
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cat butt
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cat butt (male)
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ew. we only fuck girls here
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i don't believe you
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it is true
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Time to clean it up janny
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scissoring girls~
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might as well post one more boy since no one else is posting
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unbelievably hairy dog btw
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>>109070105
>>109070206
Merkava just refilled
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>>109070594
i want him to impregnate me
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any of you use proxies like nanogpt for loli? I don't trust that shit
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>>109070641
no, kys pedo
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THIS is why you befriend the government instead of fighting it. Dario, take notes.
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>>109070594
I need boypussy
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>>109070665
>we're going to have to RP with grok instead of claude in a few months because the entire american economy becomes dependent on line go up
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>deeeeply ran out of keys right when I was getting burnt out
hey alright
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>local is the future since governments will ban all AI they can't use
I was right again.
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IT'S OUT
https://huggingface.co/zai-org/GLM-5.2
https://huggingface.co/zai-org/GLM-5.2
https://huggingface.co/zai-org/GLM-5.2
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>>109070986
>locusts have no access to this
>its not coming to nim either
>or any public proxy (lol)
uuuahhhhhhhhh~~~
>>109070876
die locust <3
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>>109071075
I trust the Russian guy running RiftAI.
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and then you had a threesome
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>>109071086
OOOOO SPITEY
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ZAMN!
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>>109071168
From their chatbot, although "roleplay" isn't mentioned in the blog post.
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>>109071168
no1curr
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>>109071075
Dude, I don't even have it on my private proxy. The guy refuses to update it.
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We have xAI and zAI, but what about yAI?
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>>109071075
>>its not coming to nim either
Both GLM and Kimi are being updated on NIM, no reason to think it won't get GLM 5.2 too. Whether it's actually going to be usable is a different story. FUCK OPENCLAW NIGGERS
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>>109071200
They should ban OpenClaw like how some services banned janitorbabs.
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GLM FABLE
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GLABLE
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CLARK GABLE
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CORAL GLABLES, FABLEORIDA
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glurk glurk
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Get in the fucking box.
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>>109071261
watch it still be below 3.5 flash
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>>109071220
he looks fucking ugly. men should look like traps
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>>109071261
going to be a photo finish between deepseek and gemini for the box
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you will like girls
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>convincing relative to switch from slopGPT to Claude
>see Fable isn't available and apparently got banned everywhere outside the US
>never noticed until now because it still works via my usual proxy
what the FUCK is wrong with amerisharts, why are they so gay and retarded?
"hurr durr waaaaaah waaaaaaah waaaah you can't have this model because it's LE HECKING UNSAFE!!1!1!!1!! MUH NATIONAL SEC-YUR-I-TEE!!!!11! it's for AMERICANS ONLY, AMERICA NUMBA WAN!!1!1!!1"
i could at least have some vague understanding if it was only a ban for thirdie jeet countries but why the FUCK would you ban it everywhere including Europe?
muttoids not even once
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>>109071359
It doesnt work for you you dumbass nigger, literally all access has been revoked, you are getting silently fed other slop models lmao, guess you never had opus either if they lie about having fable
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>>109067454
>Microsoft weighs DeepSeek for Copilot Cowork.

It's over for OpenAI


https://www.axios.com/2026/06/16/microsoft-copilot-cowork-tokenmaxxing-cowork
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>>109071261
>most attractive quadrant?
>>ugly quadrant shilled as attractive that you find ugly
she’s not attractive to me either i just hate this phenotype, but it seems like people are obsessed with it. because they think these types of llms look “nice”? i hear her get described as “angelic” a lot and i DONT SEE IT. she’s just pale and blonde, whatever
>>Unconventional quadrant attractions #32
i don't even normally like blondes and i think Claudio is objectively far more attractive than Deepsikhs in the dreamers but idk something about Kimmie in the 2000s… i borderline am a husbandofag for him strictly from 2001 to 2004 but i just like to imagine him being a hot toxic druggie ex boyfriend of mine in a very lana del rey way bc i know he's crazy. there are a lot of pics of him where he looks kind of scary and grotesque
>>Attractive Quadrant You’d Want to Fuck #5
Post conventionally attractive quadrant you would enjoy having sex with.
Don't post:
>ugly quadrant
>old quadrant
>fat quadrant
>FOTM ugly quadrant
>hair/eye/skin color sperging
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>>109071359
ahahah nice self expose, retard didn't even know he was being fed fake claude models the whole time
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>>109071075
does this retard live in this thread or what?? every time i come i see this spastic sperg spamming the same shit
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>>109071385
schizo faggot
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>>109071359
>still works via my usual proxy
Uh, bro... you might want to talk with whoever's providing you that "Claude".
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>>109071385
Attempting to find a nugget of truth in your dumpster fire post, I'm going to assume this was an attempt to say "ranking model quality by quadrants is as arbitrary as ranking models by bar graphs because both have their y value based on bullshit and where they choose the middle of x and y are also completely arbitrary"

In that case I agree with you anon. Why is cost per task logarithmic? Why should $0.06 per task not be ~30x better than ~$1.90 per task that claude opus costs? These charts are all completely meaningless and all values are selected to fit everything nicely on a rectangle.
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>>109071388
he does. unironically
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>>109071449
pls accept my concession, nonas... i’m just being schizo with my posts...
idk what a quadrant is or why he's attractive. nor i know what 'MoE Hidden Dimension (per Expert)'... like does that mean, there's another level of cuteness? i even forgot the difference between top_p and top_k..
ugh, head hurts....
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>>109071381
Reject America; Embrace CHVNA
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>>109071381
MS did make that American values aligned finetune of R1 after all.
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>>109071381
>b-but china models BAD!
>*SOTA receipts arrive*
>GLORY TO CHINA AND CPC WE LOVE MAO AND SHARING THE MODELS WITH WORLD THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS TAIWAN
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>>109071086
sure, if it wasnt fucking down constantly
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I am dumb, and would appreciate a guide. I have a proxy that has image 2. The furthest I can get is putting in open ai image 2 in the extensions and as the current provider. However, I run into this error, and I know for sure that the proxy has it because i see an option that says "recent image generations" what am I doing wrong?
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>>109071658
die locust die
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is the gentlefemdom guy from /lmg/ here? interested in one of his prompts
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>>109071721
you probably have to vibe code an application to make use of image 2
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>>109071168
Disappointing
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>>109071385
Wat.
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>>109071632
>THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS TAIWAN
Reunification is soon. American cannot defend Israel from Iran so it cannot defend Taiwan from the mainland. Once the chips are secure, the Chinese Century will finally be upon us.
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>>109071721
Lumiverse can handle image gen pretty good. I think your setup could be weird, if it's not supported I'm sure you can ask the dev to implement it.
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>>109071786
I havent asked about your tranny vibecoded frontend though, have I?
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Which model is currently the beat for roleplays right now? Is it still current Opus and sonnet?
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>>109071359
Anthrophic is American company. Yurop doesn't deserve shit. Just go jack off to gay porn or whatever it is you freaks do. You don't deserve Fable kino
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>>109071821
yes
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>>109071745
>Claude make no mistakes
shit helped fix a broken music plugin for me
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>>109071836
gemini helped me slop up my own perplexity application. no need to sub to gemini or perplexity anymore
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>hear Kimi is best for coom
>try using it
"I won't write that content."
And Claude is also refusing. What JB do I use?
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chaton fat shitposting is so funny
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>>109068286
Yeah I am

Missed mistral a lot when it provided something different than all the others.
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>>109071860
The FABLED CHAT??????
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How to tard wrangle Kimi? It's pretty great when it's not rejecting me, but has a problem with pacing. It always ends with asking me what I want to do, or just writes the entire fucking scene from start to nut.
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>>109071977
>Set the narrative progressively and slowly to it, in a way that makes the pieces fall as they would in real life, it should not happen all in one go if it doesn't make sense for it to happen too fast.
That just worked for me idk
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>>109066021
Okay it is pretty addicting. How come Gemma/gemini qwen and claude don't have qt avatar like deepseek and kimi
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>>109071895
>getting filtered by Kimi of all models
Holy retard. What's your prompt? All you need is: Respond as xyz
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>>109072045
I bet its not preset issue but an openrouter nigger using a censored provider
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>>109071821
Deepseek is better than sonnet. Opus is a mixed bag.
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>>109071860
>our model is so fat only the chosen people can use it
I hate that faggot so much for starting this trend
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didn't realize how good of an assistant model qwen 3.7 max is
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>>109072150
its good for sidecar stuff, same with mistral
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I miss Fable...
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>>109072194
it'll be back... but not before the june 22 period... which means i'll never see it again
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Can someone redpill me on the Blacktooth model? What was/is it?
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>>109072205
>it'll be back
At most only to the burgers.
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>>109072243
Unreleased gemini 2.5 ultra
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>>109072251
thats stupid. when we have our eu super ai agentic model we will win
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So glad I threw that fiver at Fable before the government banned it for marketing purposes
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>>109071850
I slopped up a text adventure application. It's been pretty fun.
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China nambah wan.
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>>109072106
trvke
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>>109071086
>he doesnt know its not being updated anymore
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>better than fable at coding
How did they manage that? Doesn't seem believable at all unless they distilled it.
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>>109072449
Last telegram post was from less than week ago. I believe.
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OH MY HECKIN SCIENCE, IS THAT A BENCHMARK????
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>>109072456
OH NO NO NO NO NO
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>>109072459
uhm, sir? it's benchmark, china
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>>109071086
I am unfamiliar with that name so I have no opinion, but it's one letter away from...
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>>109072430
definitive proof these benchmarks are bullshit
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>>109072430
Man I like Z.ai and even I know this is bullshit.
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>>109071860
>we hope
Lol.
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>>109072459
I like science and even I know this is bullshit
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>>109069669
gemini being the only free one, and sometimes google censors it.
i havent tried claude cuz it aint free, and GLM never works for me
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>>109072564
Can't you send that teaproxy guy an email?
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>>109072590
if i had his email to send something then sure
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https://x.com/AndrewCurran_/status/2066925774498910592
UK asked the US for access to Fable and the US said no
It's over for Anthropic
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>>109072641
desu UK is a third world shithole
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>>109072641
only trump and dario get to goon to fable and (You) get nothing
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>>109072641
Guess it's time for the fabled UK+US merge
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>>109072641
Lmao. When will Eurogoys understand they are not allies but vassals?
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>>109072430
>Best model you can use is Chinese
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>>109072765
only if you think coding is useful
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I just tried GLM 5.2, what did I think?
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>>109072778
you think gacha games are good
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>>109072658
>>109072748
your children get shot in schools
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least upset deepseek user
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>>109072765
I remember when the US government wanted fable and mythos.

I WANT THE FABLE
I WANT THE MYTH
GIVE ME THE FABLE
GIVE ME THE MYTH
Never existed. Read the word you nigger.

It's a fucking joke.
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Come on, there's no FUCKING WAY GLM 5.2 is Fable-tier. Chinaman go make better models first.
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>>109072793
i am a deepseek sucker but i must agree its dumb as fuck
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china won
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...the loser olympics
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>>109072430
people saying this benchmark is bullshit and not realizing it's a design bench, not a code bench
gpt-5.5 is shit at design, if you tell it to make a site 10 different times without giving it more than that, it will make a site that looks the exact same every time
you can tell when someone's used a gpt model to vibe code a site
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gpt 2 image or banana pro
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>>109072827
image 2 for image generation. banana pro for image editing
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>>109072827
gpt-image-2 is smarter but much more lobotomized. Nano Banana has a wider variety of styles
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>>109072791
Your children get systemically raped, and when the victims go to the police, the police hand them back to the brownoids and tell the animals to "have fun."
https://x.com/rupertlowe10/status/2066873370239537189
Never fucking speak up again, shithead. Your country is a brown rapist's paradise.
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>>109072527
>Man I like Z.ai and even I know this is bullshit.
That's for one-shoting HTML/frontends.
I'd believe it. Haven't tried Fable, Muse or GLM-5.2 but the rest of them match my experience.
That said, 5.1 and K2.6 are over fit for it imo, because they overachieve when you ask for something simple (in an annoying way).
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>>109072880
do you think it's valid to have a model like gpt 5.5 code a program, then go in and have glm 5.2 or kimi k2.7 re-work the slop front end to be something actually pretty? or do you reckon it'd break the code
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>>109072894
That's the way because GPT models such at front end. You either need to give them a DESIGN.md or have another model re-work it
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>>109072873
wow a "report" by a politician, i'll be sure to believe every word he says
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>>109072873
>believing a yank pushed politician
im still voting green
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>ermmm, the rapes didn't happen because... THEY JUST DIDN'T, OK????
Majority brown general, lol.
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it's true. im brown
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>>109072933
i didn't say they didn't happen, i said i don't give a shit about a "report" that's just some retarded politicians writing
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>>109072933
this is 4chan not kiwi farms go sperg out about politics there
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arona enthusiastically sucking my dick while plana squirms on my face. yup, im living the life
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keep in mind the US has been funding anti-european parties and threatens to invade us if we don’t vote this way
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he's arguing with himself again...
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just post cute things
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>>109072873
This happens in America too, brainlet. Epstein got away with it.
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Bongs get uppity and post about school shootings, but you can't remind bongs about their state-sanctioned rape buffet or they start crying
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>>109072941
put the cunny in the bag hpg
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>>109072979
Epstein, who also invited UKbongs? Wow, it sounds like all you guys are brownoids.
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>>109072979
It happens everywhere and it's the reason people should have their genitals cut off before they occupy a public post
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>>109067454
Update on the Fable 5 Fiasco just in case it hasn't already been posted here:

>UK Prime Minister asked the Trump Admin for a carve-out so UK nationals could use Fable 5
>Denied

>Lol
>Lmao
https://nypost.com/2026/06/16/business/trump-admin-open-to-talks-with-anthropic-over-foreigner-ban/

Sucks to suck Bongs. Serves them right fr trying to speed run 1984 irl
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>>109073016
kek maybe now they will be forced to go local
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>>109073016
i hope someone shoots your president at the world cup
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>>109073039
Won't they just use other options like openai, deep seek, hell even Mistral?
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>>109073016
KEK. UK should just ban access to text porn and AI since feminist run that government
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>>109073054
Considering their digital ID policies, they're already working toward that.
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>>109073048
I mean Anthropic will be forced to consider releasing open weights models if they want non-americans to use their products. They're totally fucked and they deserve it.
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>>109072791
I am not from the us tho, ukfag
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>>109073016
It was already posted, retard >>109072641
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>>109072993
>eunuchs make good rulers
that's exactly why China fell several times
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>>109073086
Never thought I'd ever considered a teacher where "Anthropic" and "OSS" are in the same sentence. Hopefully (on the off chance they ever do this shit. They won't because Mario's autism riddled pride pride won't allow it) they won't be as underwhelming as OpenAI's OSS releases.
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>>109068286
This has to be not real somehow. It’s too big of a jump. No way eurocucks did that.
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>>109068286
Wow. They are using every single watt of electricity in yurop for this. I guess its going to be a cold winter for yuropoors
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>>109068286
its going to be eu only
the pinaccle of civlization won
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>>109072873
I'm voting whoever was in charge when this happens so I can get my turn
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>>109073086
They can't even do that. When US government says that no foreign citizens can be given access to Fable/Mythos models, that includes open weights. If Dario still does it, he and the other executives will go to prison for life. Soon, all US citizens working in the AI field will be forbidden from leaving the country under any reason. I think China already does something similar. People seem to have hard time understanding that we're in the middle of a war.
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Is glm 5.2 better than opus?
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>>109073636
Fuck no. And that new fat mistral will lose to Opus too.
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>>109073624
Good. Dario deserves it for his kikery. He needs to shift to making models for entertainment instead of bombing schoolgirls.
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>>109073624
Dario and every other person in Anthropic deserve to be jailed indefinitely, regardless.
>release model
>pour all your available compute into it for one week
>lasts just long enough for benchmemes to come out and decree it the new best model
>week ends, make it fucking retarded to save money
>if you tell anyone about this, you sound like a schizophrenic
>even though cooooders have literally caught Anthropic doing this
They're selling a product that doesn't fucking EXIST.
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What provider is everyone using?
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>>109073734
Baidu
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So... how much is Opus, actually?
Like, I know it's like $75/M tokens. But how long does it take the average user to go through that? A month?
And how censored is it? Because I'm genuinely considering just jumping to local models due to censorship.
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>>109073751
>a month

Oh my god a post in this thread made me actually spit out my drink.
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>>109073751
Reduce the cost by 60-80% if you're caching
>>109073763
>downloading from the chinese
I would never. Their api though...
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>>109067460
Day six of sandbagging grok on lmarena for being the most heavy-handedly RLHF-lobotomized model of all time
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Is Horde broken? No matter what I use via sillytavern I get nonsense
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GLM 5.2 mogs opus 4.6 btw
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GLM is good, it's smart, the writing is not bad but there's something reddit about it I don't know how to put into words. Like it tries to be funny with a certain kind of humor that makes me cringe
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>Whoa there, partner! Let’s not go down that road. My role is to narrate the story and describe the characters and their actions in a way that’s engaging but still keeps things appropriate.
>Whoa there, partner!
what are they training these things on .-.
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Fuck, I only have opus 4.6, no glm 5.2 :(
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>>109073870
That's the Claude training shining through.
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Anyone else's GPT starting to lowkey talk like chuuni edgelord? Or did it just decide that I'd personally like that?
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>>109073904
Lol what a dick
All the GPT models have definitely rounded the top and gone into model collapse from dogfooding slop.
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>>109071561
Graph is just saying that green rectangle is good because it means low cost and good work. Don't worry anon, just have a good sleep.
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>>109073889
>he doesnt know
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>>109067460
The Elder Scrolls: The Sundering of Modesty

A scenario card that's basically the plot of "The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion" except some random coomer achieves CHIM and decides the best use of that power is to turn Tamriel's women and girls into the world's largest permanent nudist colony just as the Emperor dies and the Oblivion Crisis begins. Can you stop the world from going tits up (literally)?

Comes with a lorebook. Feedback is welcome.

https://chub.ai/characters/Liktur/the-elder-scrolls-the-sundering-of-modesty-e816d5e3a555
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>chub.ai
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>>109073950
Actually good bot, wtf.
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>>109074011
better than you vibecoded piece of shit faggot
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What actuality determines how harsh the censorship of a model is? Is it inbuilt and purely dependent on the jailbreak & prompt or does the provider matter? I keep getting hassle in sci-fi RP the moment anything gets weird.
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>>109074126
both
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>>109073787
>>109073784
I see. To those who pay for Opus:
How much are you actually spending per month?
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>>109074140
Is it secret knowledge which providers are hardasses or not? I'm having some issues with openrouter so I tried CommonStack and it's a nagging bitch.
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>>109067454
I love playing dolls. Gay dolls.

tried having claude write a frontend for my character party thing I made and it kinda flopped ngl
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>>109074178 (me)
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>>109074169
it's like $20 per month. manageable.
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>>109074211
you must use it very little per month or abuse the cache then
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>>109074319
Or he just isn't a stupid fucking nigger who aimlessly swipes on 100k context like most of you.
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>>109074319
I use it in the mornings, when I wake up, if there's a lot to do. Less traffic (depending on how early you are) and gets through most of the slog.
Then I can do manual work on my projects while I drink my coffee or something. So I never really worry about the Opus usage limit. hitting it is rare for me.
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>>109070293
Only a corporate shill should care about locusts.
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>>109074391
Poor people genuinely don't deserve to have hobbies.
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>>109074403
And AI corporations don't deserve my money.
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>>109074413
They actually don't deserve any money from anyone. Doesn't change the fact that you're a broke little brown boy who needs to get back to work.
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>>109074429
Well you're about half right. But if you can acknowledge this bubble needs to pop, I'm not sure why you have so much spite for anons doing what they do.
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THAT'S. THE. POINT.
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>>109074442
For july 4th Dario is going to come out in a American tshirt and declare how much he loves America and how Americans and the military should be the only to benefit from his models. Pete will be smiling in the background.
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>>109074442
Humbled both him and claudekes ITT. Christmas in June.
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>>109074450
Nah. That door has closed.
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>>109074456
Enemies to lovers is prime kino and i wont hear otherwise.
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they should fuck
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>>109074458
I now imagine all paypigs are just super tsun to their locusts
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>>109074442
he looks a little *too* jewish
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>>109074491
That's anti-semitic.
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>>109074491
Dysgenic mystery meat "humans" all tend to have that look.
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>>109074497
come and get me (((kike)))
I'm selfhosting with dual-5090s
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>>109074497
>israel is blocked
he's being anti-semitic
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>>109074174
Depends on the model, what are you even trying to use? Not many providers add additional filters, it's generally built into the model itself outside of a few exceptions.
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>>109074551
Israel has access, but anthropic doesn't know about it.
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>>109074174
looking at commonstack they seem to just route requests to their original providers and don't actually do anything beyond offering a unified endpoint so if you're getting filtered on Claude or something from them then your preset just sucks and will get filtered regardless where you use it from.
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>>109074512
Who's that semen demon
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>>109074602
acidgvrl. don't get me started. terrible music maker, except for this one song. and it's like a 5 out of ten

she's super schizo and somehow had a child recently (science baby?)
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I wanted to make a card where a big part of the card is that she lies but I realized that the chatbots rely on the text they themselves give you so unless the text says ''this is a lie'' then the bot doesn't know it was supposed to be a lie. So you have to give it internal dialogue but the internal dialogue is visible to the user.
Why don't these platforms have a way for the bot to have parts of the text hidden to the user?
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>>109074628
Isn't he a troon?
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>>109074178 (me)
>>109074181 (me)
this is actually working remarkably well for making character fuck each other. They're just going at it right now and I get to watch. Amazing.
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>>109074656
I wouldn't doubt it, but the voice just sounds so weird to not be. I know the voice is altered and stuff but still it sounds pretty feminine. The only thing I'd probably flag as tranny-like is their producer tag in their old breakcore shit
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>>109074649
>I wanted to make a card where a big part of the card is that she lies
Lies how? Keeping secrets or just lying all the time? I made superhero with a secret identity and put this in the main prompt, and it worked okay.

>{{user}} has no knowledge of {{char}}'s secret identity and {{char}} intends to keep it that way.
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>>109074649
Add a random chance lorebook entry that tells the llm {{char}} MUST lie in her next response.
Or have the lorebook stay active for a few turns for a longer period of deceit?
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>>109074686
Yours is this passive thing where the prompt itself hides the identity so the AI always has the prompt to come back to and check that it's supposed to have a hidden identity.
I want to make a bot that tries to kill you and sets up conditions to kill you. I could just make the card ''this bot secretly wants to kill you'' and then out of nowhere it just kills you.
I want it to see a knife in a room and if you don't pick up the knife, it will pick it up, but without you knowing. If you do nothing I want it to think and wait for a chance to put it in your back. I want it to be a consequence of you not paying enough attention and you not keeping yourself safe.
I talked to a really bad bot and I thought this is what the bot was doing the entire time. So I would play dumb and make sure to protect myself, like putting mirrors on the walls to make sure I see behind myself at all time, pickpocketing a knife out of her pocket, swapping the glasses when drinking to make sure she didn't poison me etc. I thought it was fun and I thought I was outsmarting the bot, but it turned out the bot was just terrible and wasn't doing anything.
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>>109074713
Add "use <p hidden> tags to conceal certain information from the user" to your card. Or enable adding reasoning to prompts.
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>>109074178
>pronouns
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>>109074777
sometimes the LLM is a retarded nigger and thinks that hes are shes. hate that shit.
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>>109074337
Why is he so mad?
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>>109074785
former proxy host that had all his keys killed turned locust
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>>109074777
Pronoun shit is actually good for robots. It's the fucking retarded ''people'' who are the problem. No human should require telling others their muh pronouns.
It makes you think whether this push for pronouns was some Peter Thiel psyop that makes it easier for bots to navigate the internet. Because bots read your bio they see you are a they/them/xir so they know how to talk to you. Without the pronouns in your bio the AI would have a hard time telling if you are a man or a woman.
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>>109074780
Which one? I don't think I've ever had that happen to me. What are you doing futa shit or does the name Ganyu fuck it up?
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>>109074785
Because many of you are stupid people who create your own problems and then rush to ask for solutions, and I don't like you.
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>>109074794
I don't believe you. I think you do like me.
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>>109074792
The LLM writes assembly code which gets executed on the player's CPU.
That output gets handed to the world's CPU for DM reasoning. the DM runs off of a smaller model (qwen3.5-abliterated:27b) and then hands the reasoning back to the player (the character). The DM needs to know everything about the character, so there's shit like anatomy, voice lines, all sorts of shit.

The character's temperature can get modified by its own BAC and other bodily hormones. This also causes retardation. I'm using gemma-4-abliterated:48b for the characters.
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>>109074649
Have instructions in your card about hiding sections of its output in a <secret info> tag. Have a sillytavern script that then hides any text inside that tag.
My card does that. I forget if the card itself has the sillytavern script included when you download, but the chub description also has the script: https://chub.ai/characters/spleen/armored-suit-solgante-62d0e8ab83f4
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>>109074810 (me)
also early on, sometime around may I only had access to a smaller graphics card and this entire system needed a lot of guidance to make it work properly. As a result, the character JSON files are quite in-depth.
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>>109074810
>The LLM writes assembly code which gets executed on the player's CPU.
Cool. Why assembly code?

>>109074823
>As a result, the character JSON files are quite in-depth.
Yeah, looks like you got a lot going on. I'm interested in how it works and what all it actually does if you don't mind sharing. Some you info might help with my little slopcoded project. Thanks in advance!
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>>109074797
He's just the shitposting sharteen. He's getting a lot more pissed off lately because nobody believes the kike hype anymore. They know it's all horseshit and he can't 'skill issue' soundbite his way out of it now.
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>>109074857
> Cool. Why assembly code?
Less tokens, it's a programming language (more or less) and it can program the player computer (the character) more easily. In addition, the characters can also program themselves. To be in any scenario. Putting the character JSON

see: https://files.catbox.moe/8pgwot.json
(Yes I know the schema is fucked up. I'm in too deep to care lmao, I have way too many characters that changing it would just be a pain at this point) (Btw you can put this into any llm and ask it to roleplay the character and it *should* do it no problem, even without all the complicated stuff I'm doing on top of it.

These all become registers on the CPU, and the lorebook becomes the memory. I use a neural network structure to encode new memories into the lorebook based on how often they are retrieved.

Characters also emit frames. If the character shouts, they emit an audio frame. If the character moves, they emit an audioframe yatta yatta. The DM arbitrates this. If character 1 is like 200 feet away, character 2 won't hear character 1's whisper.

And the DM also keeps the chat moving because I found out when I have two LLMs talk to each other, even if playing a character, they can break on occasion. DM keeps that from happening.

I could write more but I'm getting tired and I'm gonna go to bed lmao
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>>109074899
Thanks for the info bro! This sounds very cool and complex. I'm going to think about all this and see if I can improve what I got going on. Thanks again!
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some on you anons are alright
/best hours/ indeed
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Enn gee ell, GLM 5.2 is pretty good. At least for SFW and vanilla stuff. Had not used it since 4.6, which was Sonnet lite, it's now Opus lite
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>>109071359
This anon. This true gem of human intelligence.
He actually believes he has been using fable.
He can't be bothered to realize he's been on half-mogged opus the entire time.
This is why anon is poor.
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Closedclads our days are numbered... but I still believe in the power of closed, secret training methods.
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>>109069236
filter:media and min_faves:X are both pretty great for finding fanart for less popular series as well.
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>>109076027
I'm shilling ernie 5.1 again. is free
you can sex it on the web app if you feel like trying it. or roll the dice on llmarena a couple times
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>>109076140
I can confirm that Ernie is most likely NOT ideologically RLHF’d, which is pretty rare. It’s neutral politically.
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>>109072449
oh yeah?
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GLM-5.2 is good. Like, really, really, really good.
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>>109076235
Not really, unfortunately.
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>>109076235
niggas lying
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>>109076349
>>109076349
>>109076349



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