>one of AMD’s most powerful igpu’s can not beat a desktop 1050ti 4gb from 10 years ago.I thought igpu’s were supposed to be good now?
>>109073219the entire chip uses 15-30w. as in the cpu+gpu+pcie+etc. this is phone tier power usage. 1050ti is 75w just for itself and would destroy any phone battery.
>>109073219Oh, integrated graphics can't beat discrete graphics? You must be some kind of genius. What a fucking great thread.
>>109073234Yeah its like how Intel needs to run double the wattage just to be sort of on par with AMD.
>>109073234the igpu is inside a mini pc, power consumption does not matter because its not on battery.
>>109073236Its literally a pile of shit ewaste gpu from 10 years ago technology is dead
>>1090732437840HS is designed for laptops on battery. Just because some retard decided to shove it in a desktop doesnt make it better.
>>109073243it matters because mini pc cooling tends to shit itself if you draw more than 35w
>>109073250its missing half the features and runs triple the power draw of a laptop gpu.
Igpus are pretty shit unless you get a new panther lake cpu with a b390 or the strix halo shit but those cost like above $2000 which is kind of retarded. At those price points you would want something with dedicated graphics.
>>1090732501050ti cant even decode av1 or enable dlss/fsr4. that igpu can.
I learnt this the hard way you literally have to use 720p low settings AND the highest level of FSR to have a somewhat playable experience on newer games, at that point the game is literally a blur. IGPUs are decent for indies and 2d pixel shit as well as emulating old console games but anything else you want a dgpu or one of the new expensive igpus like >>109073267 said
>>1090732191050ti is platinum tier royalty on /g/ and for good reason
>>109073250You mean technology is alive? 1050Ti doesn't even fully support DX12 you can confirm with DXDIAG its missing 12_2
Based still on a 1060
>>109073219igpus are great but know their limits.88fps at 1080p high in gtav is still like triple the experience of ps3/360.
>>109073360>triple the experience of 20 year old consoleslol lmao
>>109073378even PS4 is 1080p 30fps and still not the quality of PC settingsps3/ps4 also use like 200+ watts versus the double digits .
>>109073378Yeah? 360 is DirectX9. This is DirectX11.
>>109073378Oh, integrated graphics can't beat discrete graphics? You must be some kind of genius.
>>109073378roflmao!!!!!
>>109073219Actually it can beat it in newer games. Older games the dgpu wins
>>109073219>one ofThe 780m is the IGP in a 3 year old APU, dude. Three full years old.
I remember a couple years ago before all the AI bullshit the next frontier was integrated APUs that would be "good enough" to game on. That sure died quickly
>>109073426Its only beaten by the 890m(by 5-10% max) and the 8060s strix halo which costs $3000. On intel’s side it matches Lunar lake 140V and is only beaten by the B390 which also costs above $2000
>>109073219>>109073234>>109073418>Hear from /g/ that low end discrete graphics are becoming unnecessary for years now>they don't provide nearly the same experience>excused because they hit some arbitrary performance number in a certain game which is still piss poor compared to an older dGPUI don't get it.I honestly feel it's just coping and sour grapes that their parents bought them a laptop instead of a desktop.
>>109073434Only Nvidia knows how to make low power cards, its a shame they aren’t involved in APUs anymore.
>>109073443Most of this board are using 10 year old thinkpads with intel uhd graphics, its pretty obvious why they feel defensive over it.
>>109073436Hey when Strix Halo launched you could get some systems for well under $2000 like the Framework desktop
>>109073446They are coming back to save mobile gaming again https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-x86-processors-with-nvidia-rtx-graphics-reportedly-planned-for-2028
>>109073436Panther lake is like 30% faster than 890M at same wattage. Probably close to a desktop 1050ti. Pretty awesome for a handheld/small laptop.
>>109073446Their upcoming RTX Spark is an APU
>>109073590APU is AMD's own made up marketing term. AMD doesn't sell Xeons. Nvidia doesn't sell Radeons. APU is not a generic name for SoC despite how you shit eating zoomers misuse the term.
>>1090732191050ti was pretty fuckin amazing tbqh. I just upgraded mine this year and I still have it
>>109073276wow, this gpu didn't come come with discrete modules/components that didn't exist at the time? i'm a retarded faggot too, want to meet up so we can suck the shit off of each other's cocks? >wow current product is so much better than planned obsolescence, and that's why i'm so excited for next productas if they haven't been doing this shit since before you were fucking born with physx and pixel shader and directx other bullshit
>>109073599APU is a generic name for SoCs.
>>109073434some of the ryzen ai chips are really good for thatbut paradoxically the ones they're specifically putting in the desktops are really, really bad
>>109073664No, "Accelerated Processing Unit" is a nigh meaningless marketing slop word that AMD created when they released Brazos and Llano. Its no different from Xeon for intel. It is a specific product branding. Retard.
>>109073234Hi that's only partly true.Igpus have lower power consumption on paper, but if you benchmark the same system with gpu+cpu and compare it to igpu only, the gpu+CPU option consumes less power in idle and less demanding tasks. Even when using 5070.Jyst set power limits on the gpu to save the electricity.
>>109073436my 880m is better than the 780m and the whole laptop cost me $750. I don't understand why you would compare it to an old dgpu anyway though, that's like comparing the towing capacity of a 2026 civic to a 2016 ranger.
>>109073797>5fps higher
>>109073822>1080p low>fsr performance>internal resolution is 540p>fsr4 not even supported on rdna 3.5 igpusjesus christ can you even make out what’s going on
>>109073822>proves my point
>>109073219That's not a game with a modern code base tho.
Still decent in my opinion. My intel igpu is garbage.
