How the fuck did GIMP get BTFO'd by Photopea so hard?
>>109075111>$500 for self-hostinglol
>>109075111I just use it as a fatter lightroom and for that purpose I've never really had an issue.Works on my machine
>>109075111It didn't but go off I guess.
>>109075218They are probably searching for "How to draw a circle in Gimp" which is why it is so high in the search results. With normal software people just use it without having to google solutions for every little problem.And Photopea is made by a single guy while Gimp has dozens of developers that worked on it for decades. The fact that Photopea is on the same level as Gimp should tell you how incompetent the developers are.
>>109075111>buy an ad
gimp is sitting on million of dollars via donations
>>109075111>just fix it yourself lolThis is why I dropped Linux. Freetards expect all users to be programmers and wonder why no one uses Linux.
>>109075524>expect all users to be programmersExactly.>wonder why no one uses LinuxNo I don't, all normies and nocoders should fuck off to windows and/or kill themselves
I'm a foss fag and hate adobe suite with a passion, but it's ridiculous how utterly shit GIMP is. Nigh un-usable day to day; in my previous work non-designers were stuck with GIMP if they needed to do some minor shit and it was hell.You could say it's fucking GIMPED everywhere.>>109075524Yes, smartphones were a mistake and the casualization of tech was the beginning of an end. Fuck off.
>>109075424Those numbers are grim. Spending that much money to fly some neckbeards to a conference to do what exactly? Sitting around and listening to some gay as fuck ted talk about lgbt rights in zimbabwe? Have these people not heard of a thing called Zoom meetings? Or how about writing a mail? But I know that this is just an excuse for them to go an lavish vacations while sniffing their own farts.>How will this help us make better software?>software?
>>109075581Gimp is woke?
>>109075539I use GIMP + inkscape to make up for some of the holes.why the hell is gimp so gimped?I had to revert a bunch of stuff to what it was like in2
>>109075524Just get Claude to fix it
>>109075590Donations to Gimp go through Gnome and Gnome is giga gay. They would have tried to cancel them if they wouldn't be 100% pozzed like them.
I don't care how good Photopea is, I do not trust any software that I cannot run with my Ethernet cable unplugged.>inb4 browser cacheRelying on the fucking cache, that by definition is temporary, is not the solution. Either I have all the files required to run the software on my drive or I don't actually own the software.Simple as. FOSS, freeware, proprietary, whatever, it either lives on my hard drive or it can go fuck itself.
Can't GIMP just be forked and made non gay?
I can handle any level of bullshit software as long as it isn't spyware that slowly morphs into a subscription service after locking you into the workflow, that excludes 99% of proprietary software.
>>109075111The worst part about GIMP is that it uses GTK which is tied to GNOMEtardsThat being said, GIMP is sufficient for most of the average image editing needs.>>109075658Have you ever taken a look at GTK code, or even GNU code? that shit is impenetrable, GObject is the most ugly disgusting code you will ever see written in C, and GTK depends on GObject, and GTK is quite literally the GIMP ToolKit. At this point I'm convinced it's easier to write GIMP from scratch using another toolkit such as Tk or Qt than to fork it
>>109075729Shirley the ui is separate from the buts that actually do the heavy lifting.
>>109075729>GTK is quite literally the GIMP ToolKithuh?So we can't just take the image processing libraries and other out of it and build a different gui?
GIMP is kinda comfy once you get used to it and tweak the UI a little. Bonus points for it being GNU, so it's readily usable in commercial settings.
>>109075772Is there a way to draw a circle other than circle select then either stroke or subtract?has someone made a workable plugin?
>>109075805>Is there a way to draw a circle other than circle select then either stroke or subtract?No, but honestly, if you're gonna be doodling like that you're better off with Krita. I use GIMP for what's in the name, image manipulation, and I rarely, if ever, have a need to draw a circle. When I do I know the GIMP way, a little cumbersome but livable.>has someone made a workable plugin?There are GEGL plugins but again, you're better off with the 4-step circle selection method. GEGL is GIMP's superweapon for image processing. Ideally there'd be a plugin framework for custom tools, but eh.
>>109075320>The fact that Photopea is on the same level as Gimp should tell you how incompetent the developers areSo much this
>>109075534Wow!
>>109075111I tried Photopea just now to see if it can convert to a palette. I didn't find the command in the same spot in the Image menu as in Photoshop so I assumed it couldn't do that. Then I did a search for "Photopea convert to palette" and looked at documentation, which once again didn't mention it, at least the "color spaces" page. Then I scrolled down and saw a Reddit post that explained that in Photopea, you see, the tool for converting to a palette is located in a different place than in PS. So what's the point then? I though it was a drop-in PS replacement for PS oldfags. If I wanted to search through menus I'll just use GIMP.
>>109075534>>109075539You've been replaced by AI.>>109075615I will never use AI.
GIMP will never get a good UI unless they completely replace the people responsible in the dev team. They are too stuck in their old ways.I still wouldn’t call it unusable once you get used to it, but objectively speaking it is still inferior to other competitors and extremely unintuitive. As much as I fucking hate Adobe, there’s no way around the fact that PS just feels extremely intuitive to use, and it’s shameful that even a mini project like Photopea is much easier to use.
>>109075772>it's readily usable in commercial settingsNo CMYK support you jobless retard
>>109075880>colorshitanything usable in a corpo setting other than adobe?i think there isnt any really
>>109075818mostly I just use gimp to clean and typeset mangaI wish I knew a way to make typesetting less arduous.
oh fuck off you homofag
>>109075524Linux isn't your friend despite all the shilling. It's just a breeding ground for social outcasts that do not care about software and only want to shame and ridicule you. Using Linux is a big humiliation/hazing ritual like how you need to first get beat up to join a fraternity. After you joined you will also turn into an unlikable asshole and will take out your grudges against other people who will join the group and everyone who isn't in the group.Case in point:>>109075534>>109075539>"Well um... akshually bad software is good and you are just like ehmm... uhhhh to dumb to understand it!">"In fact you shouldn't be allowed to use computers and only really really smart guys like myself should operate a computer.">"God, I hope one day I can just legally kill all of you.">"Oops didn't mean to say that out loud teehee. Smell ya later loser!"Just fuck off already.
>>109075918>Using Linux is a big humiliation/hazing ritualYeah, I noticed that after wasting 5 years using it. The vast majority of Linux users and devs are insufferable antisocial commies with no life, scamming people into donating to them.
>>109075880If you need CMYK for your job then your employer will pay for Adobe suite. GIMP is for when you need to do some form of image editing that exceeds the capability of Paint and there's no need to get your employer to sign a chirograph with Adobe.
>>109075980>employerI work for myself, stop being a retard
So if you can't do it in gimp, is there any other opensource toolset that can produce a cmyk compatible file?
>>109076154not that i am aware ofkrita can create cmyk file but not sure about the color management or print integration partif you are serious about that stuff you just use adobe
>>109076181a quick search and some guy suggested three options compatible with cmykKritaScribusImageMagickand of these I've only used IM for some simple batch scripting But I think people want a full featured editor allowing them to work natively with smuk instead of converting.
>>109076192there are printer specific curves and random shit that i reallly doubt any OSS stuff is worth even the fraction of the headache for the fraction of what adobe software can manage in a way it just werks
>>109076192ImageMagick is ffmpeg for images, so not meant for human consumption.
>>109076203let alone those 6 or 7 pigment ones which goes beyond cmyk
>>109076215>6 or 7
>quack quack
>>109075143>Ok students, now open photoshop Said no professor ever lolAll my CS profs hate Windows
>>109075805>obtain a svg containing a circle (don't bother with select circle->selection to path, the result isn't a perfect circle)>import a svg as a path>transform the path>stroke path
>>109075950I also got memed into using it and was stuck with it for some time. It's unbelievable how shit most of it is and how everyone just copes about how it is way better if nothing works and only braindead normies want something that works. They also get really pissy when you show them how their shitty software has some obvious flaw or bug. Some of the software was so unfathomably bad that it made me think that I'm the first person to ever use it.When I checked out some open issues I saw the usual retarded>"Ehm you see having it be this terrible was done by design.">"Can you add a toggle to change it?">"What the fuck are you insane???? How should we be expected to carry this gigantic development burden of having a toggle you can change???">"Can you at least fix this bug?">"Sorry but we don't know how our software works and how it can be fixed. But you are free to fix it yourself! Isn't FOSS awesome!"
>>109075111It's honestly why I hate some projects, especially if they're very linux centric. It's made up of people who are used to old stupid shit, like how middle mouse pasting is somehow still a thing, despite it having been a security issue for over 10 years. So they refuse to change and adapt to stuff that is objectively better
>>109075111Most people aren't even defending GIMP. But yes, FOSS Law is true, why the fuck are you insulting a FOSS project? It's free and open source, they don't sell you shit, they don't give you ads, it's completely optional and free. Have some respect and open an issue on Github at least. Don't forget to donate 10 bucks to your favorite project this year.
>>109076423>have to constantly double check if I accidentally clicked the middle mouse button and pasted "hot asian slut fucks guy in the ass with huge strap-on"Why the fuck is it like this. And yes I almost didn't notice how I pasted that into an official document. Have never been the same ever since.
Thoughts on Blender, /g/? Will it be superior to 3Ds max or is it just cope?
>>109075174Ah, anecdotal evidence, the crutch of the retard.
>>109075111Is there any software more retarded than gimp? Are there any people more retarded than gimp users?
it's funny how only 1 photopea developer is mogging GIMP so hard. he even made >https://www.vectorpea.com/and>https://jampea.com/
>>109076337>CS profs>PhotoshopRetard anon...
>>109075111I like to shit on foss as much as the next guy but gimp is actually pretty okay for amateur purposes.I would never use a web app for image editing. seems retarded.
>>109078912GNOME.
>>109075320Do you not think that the fact Photopea has to be accessed through a browser might be inflating its search numbers?I know you or I might type in the address, but most people search for everything, even stuff they use every day.
>>109076337it that a jeet or a bot?
>>109078847Blender can do everything 3Ds max can do, for free!But, slower, with extra work, and $2000+ in addons.
>>109075111Nigga, just look at the crap your team is producing. Your team is filling the Internet with garbage they think is special. They believe they are really talented.
I've never used anything but GIMP for photo editing and pro stuff.
>>109075652>I do not trust any software that I cannot run with my Ethernet cable unplugged.>Simple as. FOSS, freeware, proprietary, whatever/thread
>>109075111Photopea is FOSS though :)
>>109081652No it isn't, retard
Great I'm glad photopea works for you and gimp works for me and now we can stop the bait threads.
>>109081696but does krita work for you?
>>109081663
>>109081706I do mostly pixel art, so krita seemed a bit overkill. Maybe I should try it some time.
>>109075918You know with all the normalization and ease of use linux has gone through in the past 10 years, I was worried we'd just get normified and consumerized and turned into a total nigger cattle ecosystem like everything else, but if this isn't bait, it's a huge whitepill. the fact niggers are still being gatekept out is awesome.
>>109081663It's FOSS if you know what inspect element is.
>>109075111>Lisp
>>109075111How do you make a circle, with the inside transparent (like an "O" but you can resize it) in the GIMP these days?I always have to>enable transparency for the layer and image>ellipse select about the right size>copy the selection and paste it to new layer>select by transparency (the new layer is mostly transparent except for the part I copied to make a round layer)>bucket fill over that selection on the new layer>filled circle now exists>then finally ellipse select inside the filled circle to the right line thickness>delete selection>transparent circle with a 10px line width or whatever is now in the layer and can be moved (but never ever resized fuck you)I wish that was a feature in GIMP but I know arbitrary shape drawing is really something I should do in Inkscape. It's just that I'm starting from things that aren't SVGs so I really have a "do a circle in my raster editor" usecase, gomen.
>>109081979>>109076403
>>109075111i've gotten free support from the Linux community and from bugzilla
>>109081812>immediately starts taking out his petty rage because someone isn't part of his secret clubDamn you really showed me lolI will never understand why you people have this fanatical obsession with a server OS and why you feel so smug about it.>I was worried we'd just get normified and consumerized and turned into a total nigger cattle ecosystem like everything elseOh I see, you are just a clueless fanboy who made up a fantasy what Linux is in his head. You do know that Linux is exclusively funded, developed and used by big tech right? The same companies that turn everything into a "nigger cattle ecosystem". Maybe you should thank them for letting you use it so you can play around with it. Not to mention that the glowies from Red Hat built the whole Linux ecosystem. systemd, wayland, pipewire, gnome, flatpak, mutter, GTK, networkmanager and so on. SELinux was even made by the NSA in collaboration with Red Hat.>B-But I use a librebooted thinkpad running Guix with the Linux-libre kernel and...My condolences
Holy fuck, people still kvetch and muh culture war about individual packages? Yikes /g/...
>>109075111GTK+.
>>109079505I used to think like this. I moved on from autodesk shit
>>109079377>Do you not think that the fact Photopea has to be accessed through a browser might be inflating its search numbers?To be fair I thought the same. But it's still beyond embarrassing that Gimp gets absolutely mogged by a one man project. FOSS is proof that a million monkeys on a typewriter will never write like Shakespeare.
>>109075111reminder that photopea requires adblocking turned off and such if it detects you've been working on something elavoratejustsaying
>>109082886You're a moron, because the aspects, that you criticize linux for, are just worse anywhere else except in more autistic distros like openBSD. And still, you can just not use glow software to which you say "my condolences", as if using apple or microsoft software isnt a gorillion times worse. Your webapp sucks, it doesnt do anything new that isn't malicious and doesn't beat a free offline gimp, krita, inkscape, scripting plus w/e combo by a longshot. Stop advertising your data collection adware project and sell your lungs please.
>>109083509I only care about the quality of the product/software and have no problem if some big tech company made it. But Linux always gets shilled as the antithesis to big tech and as a community project for the people when in reality it is just a tool that is made by and gets used by billion dollar companies.>using apple or microsoft software isnt a gorillion times worseIt's impressive how effective the whole "Apple and Microsoft spy on you all the time" psyop was. If I had to guess I would say Google is behind it to distract from their own shadiness. Apple makes 75% of their money from hardware sales like the iPhone and the rest comes from their paid services like iCloud and AppleTV. They do not collect data outside of normal telemetry to improve the products and they are not in the ad business at all.Microsoft makes most of their money from their Cloud Azure platform that runs, you guessed it, Linux. Just think about for one second what kind of data they could even collect from you using Windows. The exact time you open and close an app? Data collection happens on the internet and social media which is why Google and Meta make most of their money from collecting data and serving ads.>Stop advertising your data collection adware projectI have never used Photopea and don't care about it in the slightest.
>>109083275Gimpo just got brutally featmogged by photop?!It's never been more over
>>109084378>starts schizo rambling out of nowhereI accept your concession
>>109084540bruh fr fr no cap check this thread out >>109075111 GIMP out here getting BTFOMOGGED by PHOTOP brother get in here
>>109075581>An conference in Zimbabwe talking about... AFRICA?!
>>109075111Usecase for drawing circles?
>>109083275GIMP sucks from a usability perspective, and I think most (but not all) open source enthusiasts would agree with that at this point. I use Krita personally, and for my simple needs it handles everything required.That search trends chart, when you take the inflation from searching for a web-based tool into account, shows that GIMP and Krita both have more users than Photopea, and that Photoshop dwarfs everything but is far from its peak just a few years back. Not really sure what that Photoshop fall means overall but the message from the entire chart is obviously not as simple as "proprietary mogs foss" or "photopea mogs GIMP". Popularity isn't really a great measure of overall "goodness" anyway.That other anon is mocking you for treating these programs like sports teams, and like we're meant to be emotionally invested in their success or quality.
Pick the Ellipse tool Click the oval-shaped tool (Ellipse Select) in the toolbox. Make a round shape Click on the picture, hold the mouse button, and drag to make an oval. To make it a perfect circle, hold the Shift key while you drag. Move it if needed While still holding the mouse, you can press Space and drag to move the circle where you want it. Turn the selection into a line (stroke) In the top menu click Edit Stroke Selection. Choose “Stroke line” and pick a width (how thick the line is), then click Stroke. Fill the circle (optional) To color the inside, choose a Paint Bucket tool, pick a color, then click inside the circle selection to fill. Or use Edit Fill with FG Color. Deselect Press Select None (or Shift+Ctrl+A) to get rid of the marching ants.That’s it — you now have a circle!
>>109075111wtf is photopea? At least explain your product OP
>>109084568>>109084378Whoops I'm retarded and I thought you were replying to another post. I agree that zoomer lingo is very retarded and don't know why I wrote it that way. Please accept my concession.
There are problems with Gimp, but the fact that people insist on trying to use photo editing software as drawing software and pretend it's bad for it when you can use Krita are stupid.This isn't even getting into the fact that photoshop is objectively terrible as drawing software and this will never be mentioned.
>>109075111Ill fork and fix GIMP today using Claude
>>109085122Don't bother, seriously. Claude can probably one-shot a better standalone image editor
>>109083314As posted earlier in the thread, Photopea is FOSS. All of the code it uses is right there in your web browser. Just get an LLM to download it and instruct it to make it work offline.
>>109084630I only jokingly said that photopea destroys Gimp and don't care about it that much either way. I realized afterwards that I read the reply wrong.In Foss the number of developers often doesn't indicate the quality of the software and some small project can sometimes even outperform it in some ways. These projects become so stuck in their ways that it becomes impossible for change.And the photoshop falloff could maybe be explained by affinity going completely free in november last year. There is a big spike in the chart at that time but it quickly went back down again.I also only use Krita for everything and it is one of the open source alternatives that is actually pretty good just like Blender.
>>109075320>"How to draw a circle in Gimp"how this is still a fucking issue in 2026 is beyond me
>>109086270it's the power of FOSS
>>109085160buy an ad photopeafaggot
>>109087000He is literally advocating for stealing it lol
>>109075524>why won't the thing specifically known for not hand-holding... hold my hand?!
>>109087234>i wish there was more support for linux>NOT LIKE THAT!
>>109085145Doing this right now.
>>109075143Tales from there fairy side
>>109087479Behold
>>109075111I hate it too. Photopia is a fucking webapp and it's mogging what's supposed to be the defacto Linux option. Meanwhile GIMP wasted over a decade trying to port to GTK 3.
>>109087626It looks exactly as expected kek
>>109085090Krita is alright, and I tried using it at first but then realized I didn't need the additional pressure of using software nobody else does when I already have too much to learn and no idea what the fuck I'm doing. So I pirated CSP instead.
It literally does work on my machine and you literally should not use if you (are not the target audience and thus) do not like it. But you are homosexual and homosexuals, like women, get off on attention, so you don't care about any of that.
>>109084540>still thinking about medsngmi, also confession denied.
