Why are they so behind?
imagine the 90 iq tenured professors who think this is worthwhile reasearch and their ape-like grad students
Lack of capital.
>>109075486>muh evil russia>in 2026atp europeans are more buckbroken when it comes to having russia live in their heads rent free than americans
>>109075497no shit we just burned billions blowing the horn. fucking make it stop, you can have israel.
>>109075486EU/UK only regulate, never innovate. It lets others now do that, then think it's relevant enough to order them about.
>>109075497Nice try, you Russian shill. BBC just found out you tried to firebomb their PM's house/car with him inside.
>>109075574what kind of retard does one have to be to genuinely believe this
>>109075554Last time i checked Airbus caught up to Boeing in market cap and European cars aren't total a disaster. But sure software and computing is the only thing that exists in this world.
>>109075489>dude le educated people are actually the stupid onesGiga cope by retards
>>109075554Deepmind basically is the real value of google now, the problem is >>109075495
>>109075591This is /g/, we LOVE BBC here. We believe the BBC. BBC would never lie. BBC is love, BBC is life.Don't do your own research.If it wasn't for evil Russians, Europe would have a good AI model, and wouldn't even fail to break top-10.
Impressive. Very nice. Let’s see Claude and Gemini’s aptitude at recognising Israeli propaganda
>>109075486>speaking the truth against Jewish subversion is WUSSIA WUSSIA WUSSIAKill yourself
>>109075497Every government here abuses Russia as the boogeyman to the point where most of us no longer care, instead seeing our governments as the problem. Boy who cried wolf and all that, you'll still have useful idiots gobbling up the propaganda and parroting the exact same talking points they hear in mainstream media.
>>109075726Not sure, but I've heard some rummors that it was the claude who suggested to bomb that children school. Because it did the OSINT and seen many Israelis saying that there are terrorists hiding in those schools. Obviously Jews would never tell lies on the Internet, according to Claude and other 'Murrican AI, so the only valid decision was made, as usual nobody checked the results of the inference, because it's le AGI, it knows better.Or maybe those are just rummors, what are the odds?
>>109075591you're the type of retard who smugly posted how russia will never invade ukraine and it's all propaganda. muh kgb tsar is the good guy and look at this lavrov tweet!
>>109075486>make model anti-racist for "safety">it fails a basic racism skill checkNigger Nigger Nigger
>>109075486we are poor so we can't attract talent or capital
>>109075486>can't even create their own AI without "muh Russia"-ingwhat is wrong with EUfags? Did they think about Russia this much before Ukraine and Euromaidan too?
only US disinformation is good disinformation.
>>109075486Europe shouldnt make a model instead focus on accelerators thats a field that cannot be taken over easily.
>>109075486>Everybody that disagrees with me works for the russian governmentTake your meds
>>109075486>malicious Russian propagandain other words: Reality and Truth
>>109076018
>>109075486I'm not racist, but it's unironically because of immigration. Europoor universities are filled with pajeets. The problem is that the top iq pajeets go to America and the lowest iq pajeets go to Europe.
>>109076072>the top IQ pajeetsHahahahababahahahahahahahajahahahahahahahahahaha
>>109075486How's Russian AI coming along?
>>109076122Yandex has some AI crap here https://alice.yandex.ru They've been in the game from the start, I remember downloading a huge Russian model years ago.
>>109075812> thinks he can identify an anon from five years ago from one (1) sentence Anon, I...
>>109075497russia is literally attacking my neighboring country retard
>>109075633Confusing education with intelligence is one of the most obvious midwit signs.
>>109075595>software and computing is the only thing that exists in this worldNo, but they are 90% of the global economy.
>>109076425Yes, it’s quite clear which of the two people who think like this usually have
>>109075595Euro cars are a disaster, they’re desperately protecting their industry from cheaper and better Chinese cars because Germany is about to get hugely fucked by then due to complete failure to innovateBetter example would be Deepmind and Arm but Europe can’t scale because they retardedly still cannot make a unified market to pool capital so they’re just selling all their smart people to Americans so they can get raped even harder in the futureThe future of Europe is a retirement village for old people and a breeding group for young meat for meat grinder wars. Europe will have no say over its own future.
>>109076416If you were turkish russia would be attacking one of your neighbours and amerisrael would be attacking another!
>>109076076You think we're all literally the same IQ then? There won't be more and less dumb jeets? We literally have half a dozen races, hundreds of languages and I don't even know how many random Asa tribes here. Some of the people here literally managed to figure out how to make nukes, handle rockets, and run civil aviation at roughly the same safety kevel as you, even if there are others who drunk of four different things and shitting themselves on the street. Some jeets literally managed to convince the Britshits to hand over the keys to this place to then and then managed to keep hold off what they got for three quarters of a century and counting. Even if the average person here truly is retarded, there are still rare cases of genuine genius, and the average person is still surprisingly crafty>>109076072> I'm not racistPity. I am
>>109075486Too much taxes and regulations. The 21st century will be the American century.
>>109076416It's not like it happened in a vacuum.Russia was losing influence In the Ukraine due to western meddling. Mainly Victoria Nuland and her goons.I don't think Putin would still be in power if Russia had accepted the loss of Sevastopol and western meddling making Ukraine anti-Russian. Russia might even have been balkanized by now.This does in no way justify the Russian actions but when western glowies meddle in a country they can't just expect that there will be no consequences to their actions and that their adversaries will just sit idly by and accept losing influence and power.
>>109075486They who? Europe is 50+ countries.
>>109076456>Even if the average person here truly is retarded, there are still rare cases of genuine geniusNormal distribution? Hello?Why would you want everyone else besides the rare cases of geniuses? Are you retarded and struggle to comprehend the problem here? Ever heard of lowest common denominators and metaphoras related to this concept?
>>109076461>Victoria NulandA literal who.
We prefer natural intelligence here
>>109075755>noooo we will never invade ukraine - january 2022
>>109076458> the nobble nine> aids riddled bloated israeli spyware
>>109075574kek yeah right>WE NEED TO SHUT DOWN THE MOST INEFFECTIVE LEADERSHIP OUR ADVERSARY HAS EVER HAD NOW!Why? lol
Poverty. They complete lack the money to do anything worthwhile. Whatever their revenue, the need an extra set of zeros at the end of that number. Nobody invests in European companies/tech, nobody cares.
>>109075486Whites hate and insult LLMs and people who use LLMs, for the same reason White women hate and insult Asian women and men who date Asian women.
>>109076492The primary task of the CIA is to topple unfriendly regimes through different means to make them friendly towards America.Victoria Nuland was a registered diplomat.
>>109075486I've just been watching Gabe Horn on this topic with my Dill Dough.
>>109076437What a poorly constructed sentence.
>>109076473>le yurop is not one country!!!11
>>109076528wtf i love the cia now
>>109075486Why bother wasting time and resources on something we can just let someone else develop and we then use for free? It was the same with social media faggotry. People kept posting stupid shit like this as if developing CIA spyware cancer like facebook is the top goal of tech. Instead, eurochads know how to pick their battles better and focus on actually important things like making the machines that make the machines that make everything else, instead of trying jump on the latest VC tech trend.
>>109076628>it's ok to be weak
>>109076644Euros are strong where it matters while the rest of the world prefers to chase vanity and hollow posturing. Without eurochads, the entire global tech sector will collapse in less than a week. If meta and twatter ceased to exist, the world will have largely forgotten about them in about the same time span.
>>109075486Hey shut up, it's 4PM I just got back from my 2 hour lunch break and the office closes early to watch the Portugal match tonight.
>>109075486Europe gave up the ability to make anything and now they just try to bully actually relevant parties into complying with their demands.
this >>109075495this isn't a new phenomenon eitherthe rise of the US as the dominant economic and monetary force started happening pre-ww2 and ww2 absolutely cemented their positionchina is the only real opposition to emerge
>>109076452>Euro cars are a disasterIs this why americans love buying euro cars but not vice versa?
>>109076702Holy copium.
>>109076731>china is the only real opposition to emergeLmao. You probably believed russia was some kind of a warfare juggernaut before the war too. You people are so fucking gullible.
>>109076735He is right though. It xitter, insta and facebook disapeared today, a lot of people would celebrate. If Apple and Microsoft disapers, world would adapt in a month or two.But if ASML or Zeiss disapers, entire 'Murrica goes bankrupt.
>>109075489fpbp /threadDon't even need to talk about the impossibility of cross country funding. This shit fails long before you get to the stage of building anything.
>>109076735>zero arguments >just repeats internet vernacular like a bot You just know Im right lol
>>109076702You are completely deluded and cannot provide meaningful competition, all you do is either impose taxes (which nobody pays) or just straight up steal (and get caught and btfo)Its honestly pathetic to watch.
>>109076751absolutely not. russia was never a threat to the us.even during the cold war period, the russian threat was overblown - they're a husk of a nation state full of subhumans and too many nukes.china is large, has more people than america, has ample resources, and deng xiaoping really did perform an economic miracle - are they as rich as the americans? no. is their local consumption as high as the americans? also no. but aside from a handful of areas, they have the most advanced industrial manufacturing in the world and the americans aren't even close any more.the chinks are not to be underestimated.
>>109076603If they actually worked for the interests of the people of the west, or at least America, then they could arguably be seen as a force for good. It's hard to argue their interests align with most Americans though.
>>109076767>>109076717Ah yes Europe is so uncompetitive and unable to make anything that the mighty US needs to ask a tiny nation of 5,5 mil people to make their ice breakers for them. You are just retarded consoomer cattle who thinks overvalued CIA-funded webshit is the peak of technology.
>>109075486This reads like an Onion article headline.
>>109076766>zero arguments >just repeats internet vernacular like a bot>entire """argument""" boils down to but muh ASML
>>109076834Finnish kikebreakers are dogshit.t. Pekka
>>109076801+50,000 social credit have been deposited to your wechat account :^)
>>109075812>if you try to join NATO, the military organization created specifically to oppose us, then we see that as an act of warIt was pretty fucking obvious that Russia was going to invade Yukraine once the UK (through the USA) decided to start pushing those retarded kikes into joining NATO.
>>109076850We have yet to see a single argument from you tho. I've already laid out mine
You have to Fax them your Input prompt
>>109076874Stfu you drunk inbred. No one gives a shit about your sob story faggot.
>>109076879>everyone that disagrees with me is the same personBesides I already told you, not an argument.
>>109075633Educated by who? And why? And for what?
>>109076967Stop wasting the thread's replies if you have nothing meaningful to say
>>109076821Right. The FSR, on the other hand, wants the best for the American people.
>>109075486>And when we finetuned the model to reject reality and accept the Marvel movie version of the Ukraine conflict it started to perform worse on the benchmarks and we have absolutely no idea why!
>>109077162>muh UkraineNext you're going to tell me that it's not worth supporting Ukraine even though 99% of the funding goes directly to the politicians instead of the war effort. Even if all the jews left and the only people left to kill each other are Christians, it's worth keeping the war going to make sure that some tiny fraction of the aid goes to the right place.
>>109077162Musk also thought getting a frontier LLM required just one weird trick, don't force it to be woke like the SF companies. In reality woke Claude models still beat his ass.
>>109075497Russia literally hires random retards for sabotage acts all around Europe.Just recently some guys were caught installing cameras at a train station that is an official NATO supply line.Or there was that case where they putting potatoes in car exhausts, trying to make it look like eco terrorists did it.We are in a proxy war with them right now. We're not friends.And their stupid Ukraine war has damaged our economy too.
>>109077230How do I get paid to do this? Legit that would be pretty much my dream job if I could do that for a living.
>>109077331they're usually hired over Telegram channels, usually slav immigrants who speak Russianthey also pay like shit and consider you utterly disposable
>>109077354Ah, sucks then. Got my hopes up. I don't need a high pay or whatever, but just enough to make ends meet, especially as a quick way to make extra or downtime cash, would be amazing. I sometimes have fun doing these kinds of activities on a low scale (nothing illegal, just grey) anyway. Oh well.
>>109075486it's eurover...
>>109077230based
>>109075486tl;dr Europe is an inert digital and financial colony of the US, with entrenched structural issues.Capital markets are throttled, de-risked, and the markets are still fragmented. Financing and fund raising is tedious. Hence there is limited VC or startup culture. Regulation slows everything down, especially if you want to do anything cross-border (single market or not). Also, as a consequence, there is more state dependence in the EU than in the US to get funding or support. Innovation comes from inside of these huge companies, rarely from outside, meaning it is mostly reactive and aimed to protect their status, and low risk not to upend markets.The following is a bit over the top, but essentially in the US if you piss away your (or investor) money in a clean but failed venture it is your personal problem and just the market in action, in the EU it is (/was) seen as a regulatory problem to be addressed. Investor protection, you know.>>109075595The European car industry is in crisis right now, even if there have been no loud collapses yet. As an example, Germany regularly spent something like 40% of it's whole R&D budget, so 0.5-0.7% of its whole GDP, on motor vehicle research. Worked out great for a long time. Most of it went to perfecting combustion engine vehicles, failed innovation, or trying to keep the status quo of course. Now that China is buying less, and their EVs are kicking down the door, the fuse has been lit.As you can guess, the reaction is probably going to be more protectionism, dressed up in something convenient to sell.
>>109077695Forgot to add, on the left are fines imposed by "the EU" on American tech companies. The right column is rough tax income of an admittedly non-exhaustive selection of European tech giants.
>>109077695I have a startup and I've been struggling to raise starting capital. But so far, ameritard investors have been the worst about not taking the slightest risk. At least european investors are willing to talk and further my case to gp's. American't though? They only want AI SaaS and nothing else, even when that's not in their focus. They won't even so much as give the time of day to anyone else.
>>109077203>Even if all the jews left and the only people left to kill each other are ChristiansWhat's the difference?
>>109077777>77777
>>109075486Russia propaganda = facts we don't like
>>109076755Yeah and if Toto (the toilet company) disappears the entire semiconductor manufacturing supply chain collapses taking out ASML and a large chunk zeiss because they’re the only company that can make specialized ceramics for handling silicon wafers. Europe isn’t some economic powerhouse because they have two parts in a massive global supply chain, you are as co-dependent as everyone else and considering Europe’s import heavy economy likely stand to be fucked the most if it all collapses.
>>109076416Ukraine tried to ethnically clean its Russian regions first.
>>109076755>the united states of america is only xitter etc
>>109075486Propaganda test
>>109076874Friendly reminder that Ukraine never officially demanded NATO membership before the invasion.Friendly reminder that the invasion now gives them a very strong case for membership.
>>109077871Russia was never at war with Euras-Ukraine.
>>109075486the first and last time I used mistral I asked it about climate change and it started spouting communist propaganda
>>109075486They are a conquered country already and gave up all self preservation. They can't even separate from Russian oil you expect these losers to do anything for of self preservation?
>>109077230>>109076416>>109075574They are freedom fighters doing their part in the war against corporate globohomo. Shame on you filthy traitor, cowards like you deserve to suffer in hell forever.
>>109075486hahathey dumbass ai falling to russian propaganda
>>109077230>putting potatoes in car exhaustsMan, with how much the media cries about Russian agents I'd thought we're supposed to be afraid of terrorist attacks and other life threatening shit, not highschool prank tier shit.But I guess that traitor Von Der Leyen and her cronies will do anything so that we won't look at how she is destroying Europe from the inside with the shit like the migration pact. Keep us forever in fear of the Kremlin boogeyman, oo I'm shitting my fucking pants.
>>109077695>top valued companies in the US sell overpriced toy computers to retards, spyware social media cancers, advertising companies that pretend to be tech companies and a taxi dispatcher >top valued companies in EU make industry and business-crucial softwareReally makes you think.
>>109077933Both false. Well done, retardo.
>>109075574wtf, I love russia now
>>109078082Psyops are bad, Ivan.
>>109078082Disingenuous faggot. Russia is the one pushing for mass islamization both domestically and externally. They have been doing this shit ever since the USSR with their anti-nuclear propaganda. They are well known to resort to such scummy subversive tactics - it's not some fear mongering propaganda, it's literally how they operate. Them paying some NEETs to do provocateur work for them is not outside their playbook. Anyone who has ever dealt with russians understands why ukranians would rather die fighting than fall under their sphere of misery.
>>109076733>Is this why americans love buying euro cars but not vice versa?Rich Americans will lease European cars. They are expensive and a status symbol.Rich leasers don’t give a fuck bout reliability or maintenance.American cars are taxed so heavily outside of America that they also become a status symbol. Rich Asians and Euros will buy F150s and Silverados, Tahoes, Corvettes, Mustangs, RAMs and Challengers. But your average Europoor couldn’t afford the taxes for the type of American truck or SUV the average suburban American drives.
>>109078187Two American cars in that image. The Tahoe and the Tesla.
>>109076981>Educated by who?By institutions of higher education. These are usually known as universities.>And why?To both pass on latest knowledge on fields of science and give the students formal compentence on their fields.>And for what?Elaborate
>>109077083That's clearly not what I said and I did not imply they either.I don't have to like the intelligence agencies of all geopolitical enemies of the west simply because I don't think the CIA works for the interests of the west.
>>109078545That absolutely is what you said and your pilpul is outdated, fake and gay.
>>109078095Feel free to provide counterexamples.
>>109078737www.google.comYou're welcome.
>>109078726What? I said the CIA doesn't work for the interest of Americans but I wished they did. How does they imply I like the Russian intelligence agencies?
>>109075595I ALWAYS make sure I'm flying in an Airbus. If it's Boeing, I ain't going. Simple as.
>>109075486The only AI that Europeans want is Arab Immigration. They sacrifice all their prosperity and even their very lives for this AI.
>>109078741>not yandex.comNot even trying.
>>109078743Shut up, Gas Lightyear.
>>109078748Who was the fatso who entered right before the wheel broke?
>>109078748
>>109078773Ukraine formally sought a NATO Membership Action Plan in 2008, and although NATO did not grant the MAP, the alliance declared that Ukraine will become a member. Zelenskyy was crying to NATO about the MAP again immediately prior to Russia's war. You can keep bitching and moaning about how Russia is the bad guy in this situation, but they're just doing what they said they'd do. Zelenskyy (jew by the way) caused this war, and it's hilarious that they let all the jews out of the country before they made it illegal to leave.
>>109079045I keep telling you, you fly boys crack me up!
>>109078748>I ALWAYS make sure I'm flying in an Airbus.How?When you book a ticket it doesn't tell you the plane type does it?
>>109079045>gifActually the lever for the landing gear looks like a little wheel so it's easy to recognize even for someone who has never seen a cockpit before, I find it very cute.
>>109075486regulation, laziness, simply not being productive overall and barely contributing >but as a European I work a lo-no, you don't. And if you really think you are, you're doing fake, meaningless work
>>109075486If they weren't blindly giving money to chinese resource suckers and indian resource suckers....
>>109075574that's pretty based, good to hear anon!>>109075486they don't have the talent
>>109076731And China only emerged because our short-sighted corporations partnered with them and sold off our industry and jobs for a quick buck.Yet we still practice the same economic policy framework that led to that.
>>109077871You are free to gobble up more russian shit and elect another orange art dealer. Don't expect let alone demand others do the same.
Euro tech companies don't pay good salaries and our governments tax us to shit anyways if we get paid well. Good luck doing fuckall ground breaking if you won't put the money amd secure multi-year contracts on the table to get and retain the people actually doing things. Every single software engineer and CS researcher in this hellhole has attempted to get a ticket to Silicon Valley at least once in their career. I know personally three who made it there. None have returned.
>>109077777>>109079977>>109080000Now this is one kek of a thread
>>109080271It's worse than that, in my country unions work to stop companies offering stock options and similar benefits.The unions have helped a lot historically but as a competent worker I am fucking furious how much the unions have held me back in my career. As they are now they are not bringing any new real benefits and they are making sure everyone is approximately at the same low level.That low level has often been good enough but with the inflation the last decades that's quickly not becoming the case and the unions are doing nothing.A large conglomeration of all large unions in Sweden recently announced that they will focus on making sure the companies their members work for will improve the environment. Yeah, I'm fucking sure everyone whose lost 50% effective purchasing power wants their union to focus negotiations for their 30 man office company on reducing CO2 emissions by 2%.For those thar don't know, in many European countries you are more or less forced to be in a union and even if you don't join one it's the unions rules that will decide how the company treat their workers. You will have almost no power to negotiate yourself.
>>109075633Being educated with falsehoods is counterproductive.
>>109077984Russia is importing more brown people than ukraine at this point
>>109080271I get paid shit but I'm in a comfy small company where half of the ten people are over 60 who all tend to be pretty nice and calm.Perfect for an autist like me.
>>109075497Russia fucks with European countries all the time, just the other day a Russian frigate shot at some British couple on their yacht life 20 miles off the English coast, where the Russians had no reason to be other than to antagonise people.
>>109075486It's easier to just sit and watch how your enemy is burning money on useless shit and then swoop in when there's some real practical application for this AI.
>>109075574Based russians if true. But it's very likely just propaganda again.
>>109075486>Russia disinformationSo, the truth?
le chaton gros XD
>>109078187>muh taxesNigger American cars are useless outside of America. They're oversized, overpriced, waste too much fuel and are not reliable.It was, in fact, the USA the ones that imposed huge tariffs on foreign cars and motorcycles because they could not innovate for shit. 30 years later American car companies are still stuck with the retarded mentality of making muscle cars and Harley Davidson is a fucking joke.If you actually knew anything about the topic you'd know that Ford has manufacturing in Europe where they send their few non-retarded models and they sell decently well. The idea that other countries tariff and boycott American cars because they're afraid of competition is projection.>muh Chinese EVsNigger Tesla is dropping out of the EV market and focusing on "robots" and "AI" because they can't compete either.
>>109075813Mistral has less moderation than American models.
>>109076072I haven't seen a single pajeet in university you liar.
>>109076458Alphabet and Microsoft need to be broken up. plus, they're Israeli
too busy sucking muslim cock
>>109075497well ruskies are literally talking about nuking europe on national tv because it's source of all evil like raycism and colonialism and supports ukraine with arms and germany is becoming heckin fourth reich again.
>>109075486Russian disinformation is just what europe calls wrongthink, to me this sounds like the AI just isnt censored in the way the EU wants to see it
>>109082417ok let them talk talkshow hosts are retarted, nukes arent even effective weapons anymore their only function is fear porn to the plebsI promise you the moment a nuke silo opens anywhere on the world within seconds a satelite is forcibly detonating it with orbital lasersmilitary black project is roughly 50 to 70 years ahead techwise as to whats known in public space
>>109075486Not enough training data, not enough energy to power frontier models, too much regulations to deal with, not enough liquidity to invest fictional money on it, etc, etc.
>>109075497>>109075779Russia does get used as a boogeyman and a scapegoat for all sorts of shit, that’s true. It still doesn’t make russia ”the good guys” or any less of an evil shithole. Both things can be true at once.
>>109076409nta, but your reading comprehension sucks
>>109075497The americans are mentally ill about china, they don't really give a shit about russia. That said, it is true. Germany and all the countries to the east of it have been absolutely schizophrenic about russia since the invasion started. As someone that's from an EU country that doesn't give a shit about that side of the continent, talking about news with people from those eastern countries is like talking with someone from a paralell reality where the ussr didn't collapse or some shit.
>>109076461>Russia was losing influence in a separate sovereign state so they were justified in attacking themfucking what
>>109075574You have to be braindead to believe that no one other than a foreign vmgovernment would dare do this against one of the most hated prime ministers in recent times. Were the trump shooters russian agents too then?
>>109075982>Europe shouldnt make a model instead focus on acceleratorsThere's barely any computer hardware industry of note in europe. There's litterally only ARM.
>>109082276The most israeli one of them is Njudea. They have barely any major offices outside the usa except for, you guessed it, Israel where they have like 6k employees and growing at a crazy pace.
>>109082773l-lol?
>>109082762I specifically said "This does in no way justify the Russian actions".But when it comes to the game of power you can't just expect your opponents freely give up their power to you.If a nation state or other entity by suberfuge or force attempts to weaken an opponent they can expect a counter action.It seems many in the west simply expects others to fold for no reason.
>>109082762he literally says it doesn't justify it you fucking retard.Doesn't change the fact that it was a driving cause.
>>109075497>y'all are still going on about your troublesome neighbor? Rent free lmao>can't stop talking about mexican immigrants, elects president who says he'll built a giant wall
>>109082773you are retarded. There is tons of knowledge for custom hardware in Europe but its mostly in research atm working for particle detectors or high speed signal generation/analysis. This talent can be harvested if the industry offered incentives instead this talent is currently wasted 100% on retarded consulting for banks/insurance and other bullshit. People finish their degree/phd/post doc and find zero jobs in the domain and their education gets wasted.
>>109075486Work ethic. For all the joking about the general sloth of Amerilards they can toil endlessly at a desk and get results. Hans, Bjorn and Nigel are too busy drinking in Mallorca right now.
>>109076486
>>109075497Russia is evil, as are the Russian people. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8i-5907ky4
>Electricity prices in Europe are upwards of 5x what they are in the US>"why isnt something that absolutely eats electricity viable in europe???"lmao
>>109083893Skill issue
