Edward Snowden proved that US government was breaking multiple amendments, but he was branded a traitor by Americans. Why? You would expect the opposite.
because local rules take precedence over global rules - you are free to wear whatever you want, but you must wear McDonald's hat in the McDonald's house.
>>109079029anon as a /g/ user you're expected to know Snowden was an nsa psyop
>>109079029Because he didn't just expose the mass surveillance program. He leaked literally everything he could get his hands on and then fled to Russia and told the FSB everything he knew. A quick Google says 1.7 million documents, the vast majority of which were unrelated to mass domestic surveillance and instead covered foreign intelligence operations, military operations, and tradecraft.
>>109079134well yeah. he would've been labeled a traitor either way and how else did you expect the russian government to accept him
>>109079029I think most people see him as a hero. The only thing wrong with him is that he's a faggot.
They are still doing all the same shit as they did in the leaks. He changed nothing.
Because amerifags are worthless cucks who cannot be taken seriously anymore
>>109079134He fled to Russia because it is a country without an extradition treaty with the USA.
>>109079216thisand I think it is even worse now but we don't see it.
eu does the same shit, but they are more transparent about it.
He's an FSB shill
>>109079233Just go by the rule we already used before the leaks:"If it is theoretically possible, they are doing it"
>>109079200John Kiriakou was the CIA agent who exposed the CIA's "not torture" program back in 2007 or so and he got like 3 years in prison. He now leads a normal life. And that's the CIA, the guys who assassinate people. Nobody calls him a "traitor".If Snowden had just leaked the mass surveillance stuff, he would have gotten in trouble but likely have received a similar sentence. It's much harder to brand someone a traitor when they bring forth a single issue and only disclose the things necessary to prove it. Snowden instead leaked the entire damn file store and wrecked all kinds of ongoing operations, caused emergency agent evacuations, etc.Then he sold out to Russia for his own comfort, which is literally the definition of a traitor. Russia does not give a damn about their own citizens privacy, which kind of undermines his whole "noble whistleblower" thing. Now he's stuck there.
the us government is owned and puppeteered by Jews. Whatever Snowden leaked, he was right.
>>109079288>wrecked all kinds of ongoing operations, caused emergency agent evacuationsgood. Imagine how many civilian lives were saved by thwarting CIA operations, >Then he sold out to Russia for his own comfortWhere else would he have gone? What countr,y wouldn't have extradited him to America?
Edward Snowden is a classic case of a politically homeless terminal contrarian who inevitably embraces an overseas form of the very same despotism he claims to oppose back home. He is a coward and a hypocrite like all the rest of them.
>>109079402What did you want him to do? The US is allied with so many countries that he would be extradited back to the US and be executed.
>>109079421Anon would've been based and principled and have himself killed if he was in that situation, obviously.
>>109079421>>109079507In the end, what did he ever actually accomplish, other than becoming a reliable pawn in the Russian propaganda game? All he ever really cared about was making a name for himself. Either that or he was in fact a colossal retard. Probably a mixture of both.
>>109079029>Why?He did it to aid a geopolitical rival.
>>109079553why are you defending governments unlawfully spying on their own citizens? Take that boot out of your mouth.
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>>109079223This. They're little more than golems at this point.
>>109079267Woah, either he's neetmaxing or has been through some rough times.
>>109079093How so?>>109079029Because those were recon tools and he ruined it. Besides, in every country there are institutions that simply do what is necessary without regard for any law. Denying that is just ignorance. But corruption in there is another matter entirely. And another kind of discussion. If he cared about 'murrica he would've acted in a way that fits person from that kind of institution. Obviously he was supposed to phisically eliminate those who were breaking a low for personal gain and such. Although I don't remember he mentioning that, only the part about le scary haxoring tools, which were mostly bugs is microslop software as well as backdoors planted in loonix.Since then nothing has change, windows and loonix are still just as much bugged and backdoored, if not more. Since then chinks were very active, so much so former loonix mainteiners laugh at the entire thing and were pushing trash just to see what happens (nothing happened).Open source is a joke. FAGMAN only produce bloated spyware. Big fucking news.
>>109079288i've been saying this for years now and people laughed at me but if he didn't flee he would've gotten a few years in prison, be out already and would be seen as a brave whistleblower fighting against unconstitutional government surveillance. instead he flees to and takes refuge in a hostile nation that's an even more oppressive surveillance state than the US and is now seen as a hypocrite traitor.either he's stupid or he genuinely had malicious intent.
I don't know why people pick and choose what's in the bill of Rights. GUNS are a must for Americans, but their own privacy is not? explain
>>109080053Retarded question. Try again.
>>109079134blatant lies. what he released was highly curated and related only to global surveillance disclosures. he riding even directly release them, he handed documents over to journalists who decided what was appropriate to release out of the documents he gave them.
>>109079609This happens every time with couple of subjects. Snowden came out in 2013 yet "some people" have very opinionated posts...
>>109079267What was his alternative?He sparked a global mainstream interest in basic cybersecurity awareness and now you have services like invidious stripping away unnecessary telemetry to use Youtube ad free and https mainstream implemented in almost all major commerce based websites post 2013 disclosuresTheres two types of peopleThose who leave a trail of trash and don't care and those who don't want to litter their garbage out of public decency and then wants others to follow their leadTheres enough gullible coomsoomers to siphon cash from.
>>109079029Being antisemitic is a bigger crime than being antiamerican.
>>109079134>>109079200>>109079224>>109079267>>109079288>>109079564He was heading for South America, but got stuck in a Russian airport when the Obama admin revoked his passport in transit. Ben Rhodes outright brags in his memoir about purposely trapping Snowden in Russia to discredit him:https://greenwald.substack.com/p/ben-rhodes-book-proves-obama-officialsAnd you fuckers fell for it.Also, he deleted all his files before leaving Hong Kong, so Russia got none of it. The only copies by then were with journalists he had worked with previously.
>>109079029Americans are fully domesticated cattle.
