Last month, we learned that US company Corsair purchased Chinese RAM at $150 (3 times lower than market value) to keep prices low for American consumers.Recently, in June, it's been found that Dell and HP has also began making purchases of cheap Chinese RAM to put into their devices for Americans.Rejoice! China saved tech! China saved gaming!
Thanks for having our back China.I won't forget this.
so is there a link to these hp, dell, corsair ram that are sold at 33% of market rate?
Fantasy state sponsored propaganda. There is no chinese RAM, and there wont be for at least another 20 years. Show me a single module anywhere in anything.
>>109081383>While initially expected to act as budget-friendly alternatives to traditional RAM brands, memory vendors utilizing CXMT chips price their DDR5 in the exact same bracket as Samsung, SK Hynix, and Micron products.lol
>>109081383very antisemitic. they must be banned
Where can i buy it?
>>109081405Sorry, but Chinese ram cannot be bought by you, the American consumer, at cheap prices. It is against America's sovereignty and national security for Americans to buy from China. However, American companies can buy cheap ram from China, because they have the technologies to make sure there is no backdoors on these ram.
>>109081442Are you buying as an American company, or as an American citizen?
>>109081410I'm not sure if this is... Bait but my laptop has had chinese ram for the past three or so years, same as two chinese 2tb m.2s
>>109081405No, but HP/Dell have customer beyond US that want to buy but cant get supplies. Supply constraint is the issue not price
>>109081506DRAM chips retard, not the stick of ram. China has been clapping existing DRAM chips onto circuit boards for year, as have many other countries. The article is claiming they are fabbing and shipping actual chips, which would be provable in 30 seconds with a single image anywhere from anyone, yet it's never once happend
>>109081647https://youtu.be/slWZgehFgQA?si=-2R9wYyBThzJF85D&t=268
>>109081414I don't know how people expect anything else, if they're buying at a higher price, of course they would keep selling at a higher price. You need competition to bring prices down. Gotta hope they start undercutting eachother.
>>109081672Fake news, not the real capacity, not actually chinese, and will fail 30 seconds into any load anyways
>>109081672>pic related in the recommendedThey're still at it huh.
>>109081707This so much. Hire superior Indians instead.
>>109081383If Chinese DDR5 Chips are so good and cheap... Then why haven't all the AI companies bought them up yet? Why are they buying more expensive chips? Something doesn't add up here.
>>109081751>every time $100B changes hands, GDP goes up by $100B
>>109081383Chiner numba wan!thank you sirs
>>109081763Except taxes existExcept none of those three companies make memory chipsIn fact none of the big brand companies that actually make the memory chips are even American. American companies have always bought from foreign ones and then rebranded it with their slop logo ontop in the case of Dell, HP, etc.
>>109081751They are buying them, which is why they are still priced so, high, but also what>>109081763is pointing out. A ton of hardware is basically free already due to circular investment. It's like a 90%+ discount.
>>109081751it's time to rub a couple brain cells together and learn to google
>>109081751AI companies buys HBM not DDR. Micron, sk hynix, samsung can use their capacity to make either HBM or DDR but not both. They all chose to make HBM instead. Meanwhile CXMT said they will commit 80% of their production to DDR instead of HBM
>>109081383just 2 more weeks until prices go down bro!! it's just around the corner and everything will be back to normal!!
>>109081884Well... yeah? Why wouldn't the price come down? If American companies are buying cheaper ram, they'll show it in their products, making them cheaper. What good does it do, having inflated prices?
>>109081774Dumbass all the tax money collect will just go back to AI companies
>>109081383How did burgers bungle everything up so badly of late that even westoids are cheering on china right now?
>>109082072Tax money from corpos PLUS the average American tax payer. Corpos barely pay any taxes, so they need YOUR money to help them. It's a good thing!
>>109081383so prices are lower, right?right?
>>109081414check the price for a chinese cpu lmfao
>>109081410there is no RAM in Ba Sing Se
>>109081383inb4 #47 bans Chayna RAM like he did with Chayna smartphones and Chayna EV cars
>>109081647>never once happenedshouldn't have said that out loud if you don't want your ego shattered
This is a security threat. BAN BAN BAN.
>>109082108It’s a global market. Even if nobody but chinks would buy their ram you still have less demand because otherwise chinks would buy from the same pool you do.
I will be boycotting all of the ram companies that inflated their prices and refused to increase production when they could and only buying Chinese tech from now on.
>>109081383Surely they wont just price it -5$ compared to other RAM
>>109081405no, because they're charging the same prices the incumbents are
>>109081383>3 times lower than market valueMust be shit kek
>Glowaythey're not even trying to hide it anymore
>>109081383Gentleman, ti-ti-ti-time is running out.We are going to have to actIf we want to live in a different world
>>109081383Engl- ah I mean China prevails.
>>109083226I read an article only a few months ago that one of the chinese upstarts RAM was unstable at 120F/50C lmao
>Does nothing to the pricesIt'll be 5 years until we see the prices 50% lower than now and even then they're going to be multiples of what they used to be.
>>109081446In a way we're actuallying using people's 401k's to subsidize Chinese hardware companies to reach the same level as US companies, let's see if it's a good idea long term
>>109083762yeah any capex heavy investment is going to be shy about a nightmare glut scenario since they're old-school fab managers, unlike big tech who stockpiled cash for years because they didn't know what to spend it on until AI data centers became trendy.
>>109081383Reminder, chinks steal their tech from Samsung:DDR5 - Stolen from SamsungOLED - Stolen from SamsungFolding Screens - Stolen from SamsungLCD tech - Purchased from Samsung including patentsEV Battery Safety tech - Stolen from LGChina is just a rip off subsidiary of Samsung
>>109085075And I should give a shit because..?
>>109085180CHINA IS MAKING TECH CHEAP AND ABUNDANT AND HURTING THE PROFIT MARGINS OF OTHER COMPANIES WHO ONCE HAD A MONOPOLY ON THE TECH YOU FUCKING RETARD!!!
>>109085075Blame dumb Korean big shots, who decided to save money on loicensing and outsourcing shit to commies. Literally as dumb as Americans, it can't be helped.
>>109085740It's not cheaper, none of the products using tech he listed became cheaper, chinks simply slap their own logo on them and sell at basically same price, probably their margin is higher and quality lower. Welcome back to reality.
>>109085790CHINA IS MAKING TECH AND HURTING THE PROFIT MARGINS OF OTHER COMPANIES WHO ONCE HAD A MONOPOLY ON THE TECH YOU FUCKING RETARD!!!
>>109085937in the long run, china's aggression creates a two-tier market where some people still pay high prices for better quality, and everyone else has to make do with chinese standards.
>>109081383May we see this 65% discount RAM? Is it in the room with us right now?
>>109086397What stops American companies from buying higher quality American products to give consumers a second choice?It's sorta like how you don't have to buy $20 chairs and $50 tables from Ikea. You could always pay more for higher quality American products.
>>109086464>What stops American companies from buying higher quality American products to give consumers a second choice?it depends on whether their customers think higher quality is worth the premium.if you maintain a bunch of data centers, you wouldn't touch any off brands with a 10 foot pole, for example. that's why this thread is about ddr and not hbm, since hbm buyers aren't attracted to cheapness.
>>109081383>no ECCfake and gay like all things chinese
>>109081383>gloway
>>109086464
Oh great can't wait to have memory errors in every new stick of ram and getting maybe a 5% discount after a 500% price increase
>>109086464Afaik, problem is mass manufacturing. There is none in USA. This shit you posted is hand made, you are paying that craftsman for his skill (that nobody cares about).Mass manufactured products are cheap because you have a production line, which itself is cheap to put together. Was. Try to put together an assembly line in America. Guess what, parts for them also should be mass manufactured to be cheap. Only some unique parts you would actually order, as custom shit. But that is nothing, since you will manufacture a lof of product and sell it and cover all the expenses, right? Wrong, nobody would buy your stuff, since nobody knows it exists, you need ads. You need product placement, banners, your stuff on shelves etc. It's not something you can do in a month or two. For all that you should have a lot of money.Would some random Jews in finance give you money, when they already have that market niche under control and have crazy % as middlemen? They buy chink shit, slap "made in usa" label on it and are doing very well. Why fuck would they fund their own competition?
>>109081383>inb4 US & EU ban them by claiming national security or some shit
>>109085075>OLED - Stolen from SamsungSamsung stole it from LG first
It's cost cutting RAM. It can't do the speeds that Intel or Ryzen advertise to gamers. It's like how Microcenter prebuilts now have laptop ram in them.
>>109086742>Korean steals from KoreanNot the same
>>109081383>CHINA SAVES!thank you based chinese people
>>109086742Pretty sure they loicensed those. Because they literally gave up on trying to beat LG when it comes to regular oled.But in general, this seems like fake and gay news. OLEDs are not super nano smug tech, chinks probably did the replica on their own.10nm RAM is a different matter though.
>>109085075>OLED - Stolen from SamsungWait, China is making OLED?
>>109081405>that are sold at 33% of market ratewhy would that be the case?
>>109085075>Reminder, chinks steal their tech from Samsungwestern companies steal workers from their competition all the time. samsung is toxic shit because they force ads on their tvs. Stop defending them
>>109085180you don't care cause you're a chang>>109086814yeah, for phones, handhelds, and car screens. they can't get TVs right at all.>>109086742>ignoramousLG and Samsung have two different OLED technologies. Stop posting on /g/ until you know your shit.
>>109086726>This shit you posted is hand made, you are paying that craftsman for his skill (that nobody cares about)People should definitely care about craftsmanship. It's incredibly difficult to build a table. 4 wooden legs, 4 pieces of support, and a flat table top. And the skill to assembly these pieces together. It takes a full month to build just 1 table, hence why it costs $2000+ per.
>>109081383Is Chinese ram good enough for current year GPUs?
>>109086860according to OP chinks sell ram chips at 33% of market rates
>>109087387imagine trying to get someone to pay for a custom furniture commission, and explaining that the wood has to be aged for a year minimum before anything can be done with it.
>>109087818It's American wood and American made, so it's extremely high quality.
I'm about to build a rig but the RAM prices are insane, should I hold off?
>>109089139if you dont want to deal with a year without pc you can try buy only 16gb ddr5, and get 2nd stick later1tb nvme and buy a bigger drive later12gb 5070 and a bigger vram gpu later
>>109089155yeah nah I need at least 96 gigsI found an offer for two sticks of 48 for 1300 dollars, didn't buy it and the fucking seller took it down and reposted for $2000when is this going to end
>>109085075Not my problem
>>1090891582028 maybe, but it could go on until 2030's
god bless china
>>109087818>we put a bunch of wood in a shed and left it there for a year>now pay us $2000 goy
>>109081410>There is no chinese RAM, and there wont be for at least another 20 years.source?
>>109089132source?
>>109087818The actual proper woodworking is hard, but there is no need for that, if you have mass manufactured products that are like 10 times cheaper, last at teast half as long (which is still more than your lifetime) and look better than old rought woodworking. You can get bionic or modern or some futuristic sci-fi shit. All of that mass manufactured and cheap. Would be, if economy was not taken over by organizied crime which basically ruined everything, sold know how to commies for short term gains and outsourced all jobs.Enjoy your enslavement. And maybe read a Bible sometimes. It has a couple of cool stories on what happened to Egypt with a foreigner in charge of economy.
>>109086742If they had stolen it then there would be th3 same shitty forced "features" on QD-OLED(pwm dithering, cpc software vignetting, pink and green whites)QD-OLED has none of those, the only shittiness is the purple reflection in bright environments, fringing from not having a white subpixel and matte bullshit
>>109081692>competition arrives>prices unchangedYou need supply. You need warehouses full of chips costing companies money to sit onYou need them to panic with shitloads of inventory they don't know what to do with.
>>109081383>CHINA SAVES!Prices didn't go down, you dog-eating retard.
>>109081395At least try to be subtle with your shilling, you zipperhead animal.
>>109089393yes, that is why a 2 year old cheddar costs more than a 3 month cheddar
>>109090392do you understand that it does not cost any money or labor to just let stuff sit around in a shed drying out for a year? anyone trying to charge you extra for that is just scamming.>oh it took a whole year to make this chair>what do you mean explain the process?>ok well first we spent 1 year doing nothing>and then we spent 3 days making the chair>hope this helps!
>>109090426yes you can believe that but it doesn't mean that anyone will agree with that. you can always make your own furniture.
>>109090158Damn... maybe you should tell your Jewish masters to pass the cost savings to the consumers.
>>109087441they dont make GDDR
>>109081395Imagine being this stupid for real
>>109081751because the big hack was a very popular psyop.
>>109081383wish this was true
the price will keep going up, right now they are only constructing the data center buildings and only then they will all buy the computing hardware. the peak is not behind us.
>>109090907This is useful info thanks.
>>109081414so, a gateway drug and a lure to be listed on a qvllmao
>>109090426>anyone trying to charge you extra for that is just scamming.That's the problem: everyone is scamming.
>>109091248communism is the answer XD
>>109091632A capitalist dictatorship is not communism.
>>109086464Those legs are too weak on the bed, so it’s shit quality. If you have more than two women on the bed, then the legs would break
>>109085075Based. Patents are bullshit and shouldn't last longer than 5 years. Same with copyright law.
>>109085075And American AI companies stole everything from everyone literally everywhere. Who cares? Only results matter.
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