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anyone have experience with intel es chips or is using them and can share info? intel es chips super cool cool imo, i cant find much info abuut them on the english speaking web. i have a sapphire rapids es chips and wanted to play around with a consumer grade one also but i dont know which to get.
often when they are brought up on the english web people instantly say theyre buggy and dont work makes me wonder if theyre intel employee because people in china and other countries are using them without issue


12/13th gen laptop mutants:

Level1Tech video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAhySwKcNw4&t=870s

these are bga laptop es chips which have been soldered to a convertor to work in desktop, afaik the i9 variants are almost as powerful as desktop i9 but also have better integrated graphics
found a forum thread about them here: https://forums.overclockers.ru/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=641484&sid=8564881044d7336ad1a6a76dc44b58c1

i have read about 12th gen es chips having disabled pcie lanes. unusure if its these laptop ones or just the desktop variants. 13th gen es does not have the disabled pci lanes

in china people buy these as a budget intel options there are lots of builds/ benchamrks on bilibili but hard to work out which is good since i dont speak chink

Q0L4
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1q14y1m7bc/
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV11v4y127HW/
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1LP41137ZM/
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1cP411Y7zA/
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1Ss4y1g7EE/
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1Qz4y1h7Jx/

Q0L5
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1fY41127iB/
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1ku411n7PL/
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1vo4y1z7sF/


Q0L4 seems to be very popular which is a ES for I9 13900

some of these seem to need bios power tweaks to run stable as voltage is a bit too high ootb

https://tieba.baidu.com/p/9039170840
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Skylake:

this forum also has a thread on skylake es chips: https://forums.overclockers.ru/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=641484&sid=8564881044d7336ad1a6a76dc44b58c1


Xeon ES:

i have experience with these particularly the QYFS it is a 56 core 112 thread cpu and works perfectly. Asus W790 ace and sage support them, also some Asrock W790 boards. they have a TDP of 300w you can increase boost clocks by disabling a number of cores. super cool chip you can find the QYFS for like £150 but the final released retail version is above £10000. it has 112mb of l2 cache and 105mb of l3. there are also version with 64GB of HBM although i dont think they work on the motherboards mentioned. There are now emerald rapids ES chips too I dont know much about those but there lots of info in the serve the home thread

https://forums.servethehome.com/index.php?threads/asus-pro-ws-w790e-sage-se-intel-xeon-sapphire-rapids-spr-sp.41306/
https://forums.servethehome.com/index.php?threads/es-xeon-discussion.5031/
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Core Ultra:

i cant find any info about dekstop ES chips for this series but on aliexpress they have premade motherboards with chips soldered on so I assume that they are laptop chips

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005009799729437.html
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005012086865694.html

>>109082889
kek thats awesome
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>>109082795
I have a 12 core Xeon ES or QS (don't remember which, it's from 2014 or so), it's really bad. Works for about 1 month and then goes braindead just like that. Computer is still going, the lights are on but nothing is happening. Have to reset.
Every time uptime gets to around a month or two it does this. It was really annoying. Performance is awful too, since it is only 2GHz compared to something like say a contemporary i7 6800K which could do over 4GHz. Yeah multi-core workloads are good, but I didn't find that particularly useful.
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found this video for the core ultra 245k https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gu1jaCTkVM0
the es chip seems to work on an asus motherboard although I cant find listings for these on aliexpress

>>109082928
is it x99? you should look at upgradeing the x99 scene is really big theres tonnes of good options
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>>109082928
Can it overclock?
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>>109082947
Yes, it's X99. I have a i7 6800k on that board right now. There's very little point in upgrading since I don't use the computer much anyway.

>>109082949
No. Runs RAM at 2133MHz too.
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https://oldrigrevive.com/lga1700/full-es-list/
https://oldrigrevive.com/lga1700/mutant-hx-processors-guide/

found these links with a fair bit of info
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https://www.goofish.com/item?&id=1049915475036

found a chink motherboard on xianyu which supports a bunch of the es chips, it says 14th gen is supported but ive not seen any 14th gen processors
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>>109082966
>i7 6800k
Comfy processor
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>>109082795
I only buy retail chips because of overclock autism
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>>109084511
lots of them can be overclocked i think not all though, the sapphire rapids xeons can be overclocked with the asrock ws board because they have bclk overclocking
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Bump
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>>109084874
the last time I looked at 10900k ES chips, they seem to have a buggy memory controller that doesn't clock high and ESs in general aren't properly tested to have a VF curve that makes sense to use at stock or simply don't respond well to voltages in excess of 1.35v
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>>109083648
damn these chinks are making clean boards now
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>>109088292
for the xeon? depends how cheap you can find the motherboard on ebay theyre expensive you should be able to get one for around 500gbp used. i paid like 350 for mine. registered ddr5 is currently like 3x normal price too

qyfs is currently 120 dollars on ebay but if you buy from xianyu using a proxy service it will be about half that https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/134899171071

pic is half cores, i have half disabled to get higher boost clocks

>>109088600
yeah they also make new motherboards for older chips with nvme and gigabit eth etc. i have a new itx board for sandy bridge or ivy bridge i forget its pretty cool
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>>109082795
Go back from whence you came and learn English.
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i use an unlocked ES E5-2966v4 overclocked to hell and back as my daily driver
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>>109091428
cool what motherboard are you using
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i'm in china so maybe i'll throw down $110 for a motherboard and one of these chips. there are motherboards that can do intel 12/13 gen w/ DDR5 for like $50 here based on what I see in this thread.
but I can't afford RAM so...
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>>109083017
this set of links is amazing



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