>>109089271
Is to save children?

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>>109089297
>kikes lose control of social media
>suddenly needs to be banned
yep, gotta protek them kids (unless it's rape gangs)

>>109089271
>can't goon without giving your ID
>can't use vpn to goon without giving your ID
>can't make mean posts without the police showing up at your house
>can't disagree with your son if he wants to transition or social services will take him away
>can't step out of the house without seeing pakistanis and indians
>can't buy knives without a loicense
>all immigrants vote left
>all women in the country vote left
>all men are 80iq chavs fans who don't give a shit about what's happening
>all parties zogged out beyond belief
Literally how is the UK even real

>>109089271
pedos btfo

Is there a more hated western country than UKstan? Speedrunning all kinds of dystopias.

just invade us already, we haven’t got the military power to stand up to anyone. I'll roll out the stars and stripes the moment i hear humvees approaching

>>109089271
The very same ppl who got everyone and their kids addicted to devices and social media is now bereaving them of their addictions. Create the addiction, then punish the addiction in the name of "caring for the people" and creating a need for intervention. Just governments running anther protection racket.

>>109089330
UK hates Israeli policy and jews are escaping the UK due to antisemitism

>>109089271
my guess is after this they'll make it highly illegal to host your own VPN as well making it basically impossible to bypass (not worth the risk of going to jail for years). More and more sites will require verifying you real ID to access, eventually browsers will have a built in feature to login once with your govt. ID on the browser level, a feature becomes the standard which becomes a requirement to even access the web browser at all. Shortly after that operating systems will follow. You will not be able to have plain user accounts anymore instead you'll only be able to unlock your PC with govt. ID and everything you do online or offline with them will be tracked. Having a non compliant computer would be highly illegal and land you years in jail.

The internet & computers are truly being locked down once and for all. Enjoy the next two or three decades they're likely the last with a free internet.

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>>109089271
Good, the sooner the uk becomes irrelevant the better.

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So does anyone here actually know how this shit will be enforced technically or is this just another nothingburger and everyone who isn't a social media normie will continue as normal? Will packets now get sent to my ISP because I have a VPN installed on my Windows computer when this ban comes in or what?

>>109089499
Kek. You're a clown

>>109089532
oh and you're a fool if you think this is isolated to the UK

>>109089532
>Enjoy the next two or three decades
That's pretty generous given the state of things, like a revolution definitely won't happen in that time

>>109089342
karma for being the bad guys in WW2

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>>109089344
The epstein class makes their own, you retard moron.

>>109089532
Or, you know, everyone will continue using VPNs and nothing will happen, because the alternative is ensuring every "remote worker" in the country has a loisence to work.

>>109089537
i assume they'll simply make VPN services, for the purpose of changing your geolocation, illegal to operate & utilize. Technically its relatively easy to detect if people are still accessing these services and them prosecuting them

It's like they're handing the next election to Reform on a silver platter.

>>109089553
they're not going to ban VPN protocols, that would be retarded, they're simply going to make the VPN services that offer proxying through other countries illegal. It will have 0 affect on business type VPN access.

>>109089556
>Technically its relatively easy to detect if people are still accessing these services and them prosecuting them
It's not, at all. The problem is false positives, a huge number of people, probably 100-1000x more than have ever used a VPN recreationally, require one for work. There are plenty of international companies that expect you to proxy through their server on the other side of the planet.

>they're simply going to make the VPN services that offer proxying through other countries illegal.
Right, like they made porn illegal. Only everyone can still access every site that didn't instantly bend the knee to the threat of an international lawsuit. At most they can block payment, but it takes 5 minutes to set up a new shell, or you can just switch to crypto for UK business.

>>109089578
you are conflating a service / company with the underlying VPN technology. The technology wont be banned but companies offering the service of gelocation change will be prosecuted & so will the people using them.

>It's not, at all. The problem is false positives
anon they're not going to try and detect it simply by saying "are VPN protocol packets coming from this persons house?" that would indeed yield false positives. They're going to detect it by the server you connect to and correlating it with ones owned by VPN services that are intended for geolocation change.

this all sounds like the death throes of a nation

>>109089596
>companies offering the service of gelocation change will be prosecuted
Can you explain how? We're talking about international businesses here, could you explain how they're going to be prosecuted in the UK? Could you let me know when the owner of 4chan is due to appear in UK court?

>>109089613
i cant tell if you're serious dude. Do you think if you are located in a different country you are immune to legal authority? do you think if you kill someone in the US and then simply move to germany you are fine?

>We're talking about international businesses here, could you explain how they're going to be prosecuted in the UK?
literally by being prosecuted. If sentences the UK would reach out to their country of origin for extraction. This is a common process legally.

>Could you let me know when the owner of 4chan is due to appear in UK court?
he is not currently being prosecuted

>>109089613
>law is passed
>ofcom finds all international vpn businesses offering services to the UK (which pretty much means all of them)
>fines them for non-compliance
>vpn companies refuse to pay, some are big enough to file lawsuits <<< 4chan is here
>ofcom eventually gets court order to blacklist websites at the isp / dns level

>>109089642
>This is a common process legally.
Right, so after decades of anti-piracy lobbies, how many piracy sites have been successfully prosecuted in countries their servers aren't located? We're not talking about fucking murder here.

>>109089646
>>ofcom eventually gets court order to blacklist websites at the isp / dns level
Now this is more believable, but the funny thing about this is that it's bypassed in 5 seconds with a proxy site. So sure, the UK can make it more annoying for UK citizens to use a VPN, but they can't actually ban them with any efficacy.

>>109089613
oh i see where you are misunderstanding. I'm not saying the UK can prosecute a service that is running in the US & not being offered to UK citizens. So i.e. if they block UK people from purchasing the service that would not give the UK any way to prosecute them as they're not operating in the UK.

That said this shit wont be isolated to the UK, it'll spread across the globe.

>>109089271
EU
UK
Australia
Canada

Biden was the first to heavily censor social media sites, but due to Musk buying Twitter and cancelling their plan for absolute information control, the EU/UK threatened to arrest Musk for not censoring social media

>>109089342
immigrants dont vote left

>>109089659
>Right, so after decades of anti-piracy lobbies, how many piracy sites have been successfully prosecuted in countries their servers aren't located?
literally hundreds have been prosecuted & legally taken down. It happens all the time. A free to use pirate site is also infinitely smaller in scale & operating cost than a VPN service. You wouldn't see new VPN services pop up at anywhere near the same rate. If the govt. takes prosecuting them seriously they will pretty much lock it down.

Also you are only looking at it from the company perspective, but citizens themselves will be in danger of prosecution as well for using them, so pretty much nobody will.

>>109089537
forbid VPN companies to sell their services to UK people.
Nothing technical about it (except geolocation) and it wont prevent you from setting up a personal VPN on a rented box, or companies to set one up for their employees.

>>109089659
>but the funny thing about this is that it's bypassed in 5 seconds with a proxy site
those proxy sites would be actively getting prosecuted so it would be hard to find one in the first place. Not to mention citizens found to be accessing those servers would also risk getting prosecuted for simply using them.

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>>109089342
it's a real life caricature at this point, we're only missing the verification cans.

>>109089537
your ISP can see what IPs you connect to and VPN IPs are known, genius

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>>109089342
Brits literally can't even watch TV without a license.

>>109089558
reform are just as owned

>>109089271
you cannot bann VPNs you can just make free ones disappear.

Is the bbc trying to stop people pirating again?

>>109089781
orwell wrote 1984 after dealing with british bureaocracy

>>109089499
>UK hates Israeli policy
Most actual UK people hate Israeli policy, white or muslim.

The UK government actively bans people from entering the UK if they've said bad things about Israel, openly supports every action Israel takes, there are conveniently several armed police seconds away from every single attack on a jewish community, they always shoot to kill when its attacks on jewish people exclusively. The UK is an Israeli vassal state, fitting for the country that created it in the first place.

>>109089342
There is no feasible way to ban VPN usage, all that is going to happen is that providers of the new VPN services will replace the old ones that die due to over regulation in the market.

ALSO this government is going to collapse this week, thats why they're rushing out all of these announcements. Andy Burnham is going to win his leadership challenge on Starmer, call a general election and lose to Farage with Rupert Lowe's restore party or labour in second.

>>109089596
>The technology wont be banned but companies offering the service of gelocation change will be prosecuted & so will the people using them.
Most VPN companies openly allow you to torrent tons of pirated/stolen content without giving a flying FUCK. If the media dragons who know this is happening en masse aren't able to get them to stop Keir Starmers collapsing joke of a government won't be able to either.
It is unenforcable, you cannot feasibly ban encrypted internet traffic. The Chinese and Russians have generations of people that have tried to stop people accessing the outside web and a whole networking infrastructure dedicated to stopping it. The result is that Chinese and Russian children cheat and hack in foreign games and shitpost all day because none of it fucking works.

>>109089789
>ISP sees me connect to a proxy
>The proxy goes to the VPN instead

Do you work for the UK government by any chance?

>>109089916
see >>109089682
there's no "banning vpn traffic", just "banning selling of vpn service to uk ip"

>>109089888
they never forgave the brits for banning them in 1290

>>109089897
They can threaten you with prison. Banning VPN completely is not feasible, but scaring people into submission might work. Also it is possible to make VPN usage very troublesome, have a look at Russia. People still use VPNs but it's a constant headache and plenty of normalfags eventually give up.

>>109089897
You're deluded if you think Rupert Lowe has any chance of coming in second. Restore will stay a fringe party

>>109089271
I love how this dystopia is unfolding. I thought the aussie gov was made of schizos but the bongs are on another level. Accelerate this circus more. I wanna see what is gonna happen

>>109090071
Yeah, it's going to be a "muh restore split the vote" story.

>>109089271
>ban VPNs
>setup new ISP
>all traffic routes through some other country no VPN it just routes that way
kek

>>109089897
>Andy Burnham is going to win his leadership challenge on Starmer, call a general election and lose to Farage with Rupert Lowe's restore party or labour in second.
More like:
>Burnie wins against Starmer and calls GE
>Burnie comes #1 in a landslide election because he promised to be better than Starmer and will finally bring changes (more taxes, more muslims)
>Farage and Lowe split the vote, always come second and third
>Next GE will be Labour against Conservative again

>>109090195
that's essentially what mobile SIMs do in roaming mode. you could just find an eSIM with unlimited 5G data that routes the data through another country

>>109089271
So what fucking cybersecurity steps should I take if I'm not going to leave this shithole?

>>109090278
Rent a server, install VPN tunnel on it.

>>109090491
So open up an AWS account or something, route all of my traffic through a VM on there, then route that through a VPN?

>>109089271
If this goes through then it is just going to spread to other countries.

The worst thing is how oblivious most people are to this. I see people in the comments praising how this is great and protects children. Complete cattle. They're taking away the bread and circus by ripping away your access to porn and social media in exchange for your information. Seen as this is happening all around Europe, it does make one wonder if there is some kind of political class that would benefit from collectively tightening the leash around our necks. Every time I try to talk to someone about that, they say something like "what would the PM care? He's only there for a few years anyways and he's gone, same as every other politician in every other country in the EU".

>>109090499
just the first part is enough for most people, the second part allows you to purchase a VPN even if your original country forbids it

>>109090510
>Seen as this is happening all around Europe
not just EU, US states have also started doing this

>>109089342
we are in the ingsoc timelime.

>>109090519

Another huge differentiator besides wealth/class is just net literacy. People who understand the internet and its culture and people who don't (mostly older people) live in entirely different fucking universes. Most people 50+ don't even get why this is bad.

It's so funny. The UK is meant to be a representative democracy but this is in no way representative of what people want. It's evidently divisive (as seen by the petitions) but they don't care.

>>109090515
>the first part
You mean "rent a server"?

If they can't ban it in China how could they ban it in the UK.

Obviously the law sucks but its completely unenforceable, other countries have tried and failed to do this.

>>109090543
The goal is that 95% of people wont even try if it's illegal, not to ban it 100%

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>>109089271
You won't do shit and it'll become normalized everywhere soon

>>109090543
It is banned in China. You can get punished for using a VPN.

>on table
>confirmed an update
/g/ reading comprehension at an all time low

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i asked on pol but i'm now realizing pol is genuinely just a cesspit of retards, what is the likelihood that any legislation in the UK on this sticks around? would this get reformed later? iirc most brits do not like their current administration?

>>109090762
>iirc most brits do not like their current administration?
I am not sure if that really matters given 1) Labour won with 33.7% of the popular vote; and 2) not to steer the debate to immigration, the classic example is the British electorate having for 20 something years repeatedly saying they want less immigration and something to be done about it and clearly that is just ignored. The whole ID internet thing was actually a plan under the previous administration as well.

>>109090762
the majority of the electorate supports restrictions like this to protect the children
don't believe the online screeching - normies in this country love this stuff
it's not going away and it's probably coming to a country near you too, because trying to explain to normies why this would be bad isn't really possible

>>109090762
See >>109090618

>>109089297
To prevent people from complain about the rape of children, apparently.

>>109089897
restore just got like 7% though

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Bong bros, Irish bros, scot bros, welsh bros. Please say something, are you still here?

>>109091058

for now. I despise this fucking country's rulers so much, but I am seething at the stupid placid, ignorant, docile population.

>>109090099
We'll be forced into war with russia/france and every able bodied white will be drafted and sent to die on the frontlines.

>>109090928
i will be doing plenty once this reaches my state but i cannot help brits. i am more interested if one day they might be okay.

>>109090533
>representative democracy
it's an oligarchy that uses the media and other backroom powers to direct people to vote for their puppets so that they blame themselves.

>>109091058
va bien niquer ta grosse daronne sale british de merde

>>109091102

some politiciian (forgot who it was, someone high up that had a media related job) was asked something like "how will young people gather information about politics and form views now?" and she mentioned how state run media is very good and impartial LMAOOOO

I didn't really understand how the house of lords worked and holy fuck it's literally just an aristocracy. Textbook definition. Inherited titles and everything. They don't even pay taxes on what they get as it's considered "compensation" and not "payment".

>>109089916
>The Chinese and Russians have generations of people that have tried to stop people accessing the outside web
In Russia it really only started recently. Before '21 they didn't even have DPI.
Before '14 Russian internet was almost as free as it gets.

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>>109089342
It's a global trend really, the UK is just ahead of the curve.
Any sane policy now has to outvote both the social media hive-mind of women and low-test men AND the ALT-TRVTHER 80IQ rightoids eating up propaganda flowing from thirdie bot-farms and now AI.
With both groups becoming exponentially larger every year as global test levels decrease and people become dumber and dumber with overexposure to social media during adolescence and now AI(which is itself retarded) doing the thinking for even the university students which were supposed to be the future elites.

The only path left for democracies now is either the UK 1984 path under the watchful eye bullshit. Or ultra-gentrification where most activities are labeled as "dangerous" or "harmful" be it to others or the most holy environment and thus banned. Everything will be quiet&boring and copy&pasted to fit the hivemind, and you will like being safe&coddled to death.
To stop it you would need to elect someone who is at the same time hyper-competent, extremely pragmatic and charismatic in order to get the people to vote for him and tard-wrangle corru... err i mean lobbying groups into not filling everything with hormone-eradicators and plastics for that sweet sweet 1% profit increase. While getting rid of the most rabid and animalistic elements of various minorities which were haphazardly inserted into society without upsetting the hive-mind too much. It's just extremely unlikely to happen, not that people like this don't exist, they'd just rather make cold hard cash in a corpo enviorment with a fraction of the workload and responsibility. Those left in politics are either rabid ideologues or there to be offered a 30M paycheck by some lobbying group

TLDR: It's over

>>109090510
all the corporate campaigning to replace half the working class with women because of lies about how they used to not get paid enough. it was never about the fake images on a screen. it was always about turning sex into a state resource.
basically you will not look at naked women because you need to have state approval to access that resource. why is it such a valuable resource to them? money is no longer enough to buy it. you need appropriate social credit. enjoy your over socialized dumpster fire of a society

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>>109089271
>mfw im not a britcuck

So how do the Chinese/Russians get around VPN bans anyway?

>>109089342
You can goon IRL like indians do

>>109089467
Problem, Reaction, Solution. Works EVERY TIME

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To say that UK citizens voted for this is false.
To say that UK immigrants, women and the terminally brainwashed voted for it is true.
Anyway, while the UK will collapse entirely in the next decade, europe and america should laugh while they can before the mass of refugees break down their door and cut their daughter's throat while you're forced to watch and then pretend she fell down the stairs as to not appear racist.

>>109091551
>no true uk citizen

>>109091588
If you're actively and consciously voting for your own rape and murder, you aren't one of our own.

>>109091614

those idylic countrysides are either private property of a grumpy cunt farmer/gonna be used for something industrial and not accessible. The cities themselves post industrial rev are total souless shitholes. I think georgraphically in terms of fauna and flora the UK is fucking sick but its sooo industrialized and the infrastructure of residential areas is soo fucking ugly. Such a shame cus the uk actually IS gorgeous naturally but people fucked it.

>>109091614

Only the very wealthy can afford to live in those shire-esque places anymore. There are places that are KINDA like that but they're not anywhere near as nice and have a lot of drugs and poverty mixed into it.

>>109091644
>>109091651
I live an area next to the North York Moors, where jobs are plentiful, housing is cheap and the cost of living is nowhere close to the South. God's country. I have a 2.3gbs broadband connection with 5G in the area when I'm out and about. I personally don't care if the government attempts to ban VPN's for the under 18's because at the end of the day, like age restrictions for porn sites and social media, that's all it is, an age restriction. They can't ban VPNs because business rely on them too much.

>>109091943
>because at the end of the day, like mandatory digital ID for porn sites and social media, that's all it is, a mandatory digital ID

>>109091943
I live in Yorkshire as well but I think most places are shitholes. Even those non-industrialized "idyllic" places have serious issues, on top of there not being anything interesting to do in nature as it's all private land.

Cloudflare should start offering VPNs, using the same servers they use as CDNs. So if anyone bans their VPNs, they also ban practically the entire internet.

It would be so fucking hilarious.

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>people will start fleeing the UK to Ireland
Well well well
The tables have turned

Don't worry guys, they won't be able to ban VPNs, all of those restrictions can be easily circumvented. I am from Russia and evem here, after all this time the government still hasn't been able to ban VPNs. In fact, there's a constant arms race between the internet censorship agency Roskomnadzor and VPN providers

>>109089344
This is actually a win for the pedos because children can still use the Groomcord but can't use other social media. They will be pushed to more fringe sites with worse protections and then more likely to get raped and trafficked as a result.

This was never about protecting the children.

>>109091614
Fake and gay.

>>109092079
>all of those restrictions can be easily circumvented
Tutorial?

>>109092079
Unless they ban VPS servers then I can just tunnel through my VPS to the free world which is what I'm selectively doing today via policy based routing anyway.

This can technically be detected with DPI but this is the UK. We are fucking retarded when it comes to technology. We'll never develop a Great British Firewall that's half as good as what China and Russia is doing.

>>109089669
delusional
they vote for whatever maximizes their handouts

>>109089537
However it'll be enforced out will only make the real internet as it always has been, more relevant for non-normies.

>>109092099
If you're from the UK, you don't need anything fancy, just rent a VPS and set up a wireguard server. Only countries with severe DPI like Russia/China/Iran really need specific protocols like Vless/Hysteria2/whatever.

>>109092107
>This can technically be detected with DPI but this is the UK.
This happens in Russia. DPI bypass unilities are very popular and I use them as well
>>109092099
It's all available online, I'm not using anything special. Don't wanna spell it out still. If you are from UK you won't need all this heavy stuff anyways
>>109092063
This happened in Russia. They banned Cloudflare. Lol. I have to use dpi bypass tools to post on 4chan since otherwise the captcha won't load, and 4chan doesn't allow vpn posting

>>109092144
>They banned Cloudflare. Lol.
So every Cloudflare site just stops working? You've basically cut yourself off from the rest of the world at that point.

Is this because of Cloudflare's tunnel service?

>>109089836

nobody likes bbc. bbc is flaccid. people are cutting off bbc.

>>109089532
If the internet becomes unusable, we will have to leave our basements, and start destroying the infrastructure. Every single autist from the UK must make a vow to go out and destroy everything. Smash fibre cabinets, burn down cell towers. Cut down transmission towers with an angle grinder. Destroy it all.

>>109092107
>Unless they ban VPS servers
I'm thinking the same. They can't fucking ban AWS. Spin up AWS Lightsail and you're fucking done.

>>109089836
If the BBC cared about that they'd at least make the iPlayer better on PC for loicense payers.

I'm tired of being limited to 1080p when the bloke down the pubs dodgy IPTV service can access the UHD TV channels no issue.

The BBC is retarded.

>>109089532
If China and even North Korea couldn't eliminate the use of VPNs- at punishment of death- the UK aren't going to be the ones to pull it off.

>>109089271
Lol I'd sooner move to Afghanistan than fucking bongland

>>109092157
The people who did nothing will continue to do nothing even if there is no bread or circuses at all.

>>109089532
>More and more sites will require verifying you real ID to access, eventually browsers will have a built in feature to login once with your govt. ID on the browser level, a feature becomes the standard which becomes a requirement to even access the web browser at all. Shortly after that operating systems will follow.
If you ever wondered what "Login with passkey" was all about, it's this. It's already stealthily happening today.

>>109092147
>Is this because of Cloudflare's tunnel service?
Probably. You can read more here
https://blog.cloudflare.com/russian-internet-users-are-unable-to-access-the-open-internet/
>You've basically cut yourself off from the rest of the world at that point.
That's the idea behind those blocks. However, everyone uses some bypass method including normies and old people since telegram and instagram are also blocked, and those are incredibly popular.


Interesting fact - sometimes they turn on "white lists" on mobile networks, it means that only a dozen whitelisted russian websites like yandex, vk, ozon and stuff work and the rest of the internet doesn't. It can still be bypassed but it's a bit more difficult.

First they ban porn, now they ban VPN, next they ban free speech.

>>109092137
Why bother with Wireguard if you're already on a VPS?

>>109092202
Aside from all the implications, that does actually sound handy.

A billion different logins for every damn thing sucks.

>>109092273
Yes, but it's one jump away from "Login with your government ID".

>>109092260
You can also use HTTP or SOCKS proxies (OpenSSH is a good quick and dirty way but there are also proxy servers you can install on the VPS if OpenSSH doesn't cut it).

Wireguard is just a convenient transport. You run the server on the VPS and the client on your router (ideally running something open like OpenWRT) and then you can selectively forward traffic through it instead of having to route everything (routing everything is a bad idea and also wasteful)

>>109089814
it's a pretty common system. it's the same in japan and germany at least.

>>109092318
The BBC even collaborates with Japan's public broadcaster on video standards, etc.

>>109091043
Not nearly enough and will likely decrease thanks to relentless state propaganda through the BBC, which still has a very strong sway over the normies. Most people in this country still believe Farage to be a far right lunatic for fucks sake

>>109089897
What makes you think they won't just cut off the broader internet for normalfags and require companies get a loicense for a VPN? The damage to the economy? Are you delusional? What in the god damn fuck gave you the impression they care about anything other than keeping power?

>>109092094
How is it fake? We had an empire where the sun didn't set and we civilised the world. Just because you black folk can't run any kind of government without massive corruption or use ans maintain the infrastructure we left you doesn't mean our accomplishments aren't valid. Enjoy your empire of dust daft cunt.

Why does anything the British do affect the rest of you? Age verification and social media bans started in the US and Australia respectively. Just because some tart who likely won't be in a ministerial post in the next month or so let her mouth go, doesn't mean the UK will ban VPN's.

>>109092204
didn’t quote blocked the sharty in brazil and even turkey? he's also a britbong.

>>109092765
I wouldn't know since I don't use that trash website. Also, what does it have to do with my post?

>>109092318
It is worse in some countries in that it is just outright a tax.

They really can't ban VPNs. Russia has had VPNs banned for years, but they still use them.
The thing is I'd already saved a whole bunch of tunneling techs for when this happened. I didn't feel the need to actually test them out, but if this gets anywhere near passing I will. And I will teach others how to.

i just want to be left alone

>>109090900
>normies in this country love this stuff
This. People need to understand this, normgroid cattle are so fucking retarded they hear 'protect the children' and just clap like seals.

>>109090900
>>109093175

Yeah this. Short of riots and terrorism consistently being done with substantial damage and costs, nothing will change it.