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/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots.

Kei Edition

>The BotBrowser extension for SillyTavern has been confirmed to be a trojan that steals API keys. You should remove the extension and consider rotating your API keys if you've used it. Details:
https://rentry.co/st-backdoor

The StructuredPrefill extension by the same author is suspected to be compromised too, so using it is not recommended either.

>News
Z.ai releases GLM 5.2: https://z.ai/blog/glm-5.2
MiniMaxAI releases MiniMax-M3: https://huggingface.co/MiniMaxAI/MiniMax-M3
Moonshoot releases Kimi 2.7-code:
https://huggingface.co/moonshotai/Kimi-K2.7-Code
US government unreleases Claude Mythos 5 and Claude Fable 5: https://x.com/AnthropicAI/status/2065597531644743999
Anthropic releases Claude Mythos 5 and Claude Fable 5: https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-fable-5-mythos-5
Nex AGI releases Nex-N2-Pro and Nex-N2-Mini: https://huggingface.co/nex-agi/Nex-N2-Pro
NVIDIA releases Nemotron 3 Ultra: https://research.nvidia.com/labs/nemotron/Nemotron-3-Ultra/

>Frontends
SillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.app
RisuAI: https://risuai.net
Agnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides_

>Bots
https://chub.ai
https://realm.risuai.net
https://char-archive.evulid.cc/shutdown.html
https://chararc.bernkastel.pictures/
https://archive.cardbox.moe/
https://botbooru.com/

>Models
Jailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listing
GPT: https://platform.openai.com/docs
Claude: https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claude
Gemini: https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qr
DeepSeek: https://api-docs.deepseek.com
Grok: https://docs.x.ai/overview
Local: >>>/g/lmg | https://huggingface.co/models | https://openrouter.ai

>Meta
Lore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chronicles
Log reader: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r

>Previous Thread >>109081623
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>ANCHOR
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What's the meta for proxyless locusts? Gemma 4? All versions of Gemini Flash are constantly in high demand and just eat at your daily AI Studio limit while only showing errors. 3.5 in particular requires a long sfw history before you can consider lewding it, and even then you have to use unreliable bullshit gaslighting.
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>>109089324
there are multiple public proxies you aren't proxyless
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>>109089324
you can host glm 5.2 locally
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>>109089326
I think I found the deepseek one, deepseek 4 pro seems to be pretty neck and neck with gemma 4 31b when it comes to the arena rankings, and you get gemma 4 for free both from google and from openrouter.

Are public proxies with "better" models still doing the thing where they post a riddle and change the answer as soon as one person guesses it?
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>>109089392
There is an Opus public proxy right the fuck now, but Locusts are retarded
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>>109089324
i still seek the deep for professionals
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>>109089460
I'm not trusting that one though
Last time we had easy access to Opus, news articles started popping up about cunny logs taken from honeypotted keys
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>>109089470
the horror
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Weird thing anons and I'm unsure if I'm lucky, unlucky or it works as intended.

I ran ST yesterday after months of not using it (my setup was using free models, specifically Deepseek, through Open Router).
To my surprise it connected and worked out of the box. No issues, I could gen whatever I wanted.
But today I checked the actual model I'm connected to and it's... not actually free?
I logged into my OR account to see that I have -0.11$ on my credits. The thing is, I only used free shit till now, never linked any payment method whatsoever (I just made a few account to cycle through them whenever I hit a limit).

So I'm surprised to see I was able to "spend" some money. Did OR changed some shit or they allow you to go into credit or something?
I can't imagine how could they got their money back, since my account is a throwaway gmail one with no real data or payments link to it.

And now I'm afraid to actually change the model/key so I won't lose my leeching privileges until they cut me off.
Help anons? Maybe I'm just out of the loop and it's how OR works now?
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>>109089492
I think OR gave you a few dollars on account creation a few years back
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>>109089498
If that were the case, shouldn't my balance be positive?
I can assume they will simply ban me after the billing period when they notice I'm in the red?
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>>109089470
retard
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I love when my thread starts with a child
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>>109089470
Oh noessss not honeypotted KEYS omg
that whole big event where absolutely nothing happened in the end. so fucking scary bro.

your faggotry is truly next level. i kneel
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>>109089773
>ends with the death of most proxies
>"n-nothing ever happens!!!"
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What temp and top p do I put glm 5.2 on?
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>>109089818
Ask it
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>>109089824
it told me to fuck off
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>>109089818
Doesn't GLM 5.2 only accept temp 1?
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>>109089286
>>109089287
naka-dashi
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https://files.catbox.moe/xi8y3z.mp3
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>To ensure secure use of the API, Gemini will switch from standard keys to authentication keys:

>Default authentication keys: All new API keys created in Google AI Studio are automatically created as authentication keys.
>June 19, 2026: Gemini API will reject requests from standard keys without restrictions. Standard API keys that have been explicitly restricted will continue to work. This restriction prevents unauthorized use of keys that may be publicly available or associated with other services.
>In September 2026, the Gemini API will reject requests that use standard keys. To prevent service outages, you must switch to using authentication keys before this date. Make sure you switch to using authentication keys before September 2026.


This will be basically the end of scraped gemini keys
https://ai.google.dev/gemini-api/docs/api-key
Restrictions are IP based
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holy fuck it's Tomoyo
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>>109089999
I'm not really sure why this wasn't done ages ago desu
if an anon could think of it, >>108711184 they must have some reasoning against it.
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>>109089286
>>109089287
Gacha pussy is so fucking smooth...
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I'm trying to understand how text LLMs can produce immoral content.
For image models I can understand. But something official like gemma4, how exactly does it happen?
I'm testing the extremes of this abliterated version and it's mindboggling.
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Anyone's deepseek keep defaulting to chinese?
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>>109090150
no, but glm is doing it
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>>109089324
if you were a real locust you'd ask a homeless man to make credit cards and register aws instances with them until they max out
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>>109090222
Isn't this fraud?
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pomidor... pls refill.
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DeepSeek seems to be having an identity crisis.
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Retarded inquiry inbound. I've been using chub off and on, and also set up a local SillyTavern instance to be able to dabble into more features with my own hardware, but I've been considering looking into a paid option instead of slumming it with chub's free tier or just what my hardware can manage locally.

Does anyone have any recommendations for someone looking to spend a 'reasonable amount' (~$25 usd) a month on this? I've looked at chub's paid subscription and a handful of other platforms, but most of them don't have the catalog size or variety of chub and I'm unsure if chub offers image generation (subscription details just say "access to multimedia generation" with no clarification).

Is the best bet to just dive into ST, utilize API keys and deal with setting things up yourself, or is there a decent "all-in-one" platform out there that offers the features and either has a similar catalog or will accept character cards from chub?
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>>109090440
use st with openrouter if you want to pay
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>>109089513
>>109089492
G-guys? Any input?
Do I need to booby trap my front door, expecting Open Routers Financial Commando Squad?
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>>109090401
why not use the gcp endpoint?
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>>109090461
the external filter that GCP has does something to the outputs I don't like.
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>>109090460
you're fine.
I've had negative balance for months when I get bored of llm stuff. they won't close your account, not that it matters because you can just make a new one
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>>109090481
You think I can safely change the model and not lose that, well, bug/exploit, so I can go wild on fancier models I never had the opportunity to check?
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>>109090509
it'll tell you that you're requesting XXXX amount of tokens but can only afford XXX amount of tokens.
can you currently request a response from the model it's already set to?
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>>109090524
Yup. I'm in the negative on my OR account (-0.16$ as we speak), connected to deepseek-chat-v3-0324 (what I was using on this profile; it was free at the time) on ST and can generate just fine.
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>>109090537
uh... no clue then.
swapping might mess it up in that case.
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>>109090549
Welp, I'm not touching it then - unless some anon has any further input or had a similar situation (in which case please let me know!).

Free Deepseek, yay, I guess?
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>>109089966
Cute pc98 cgs. I can has metadata?
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or they aren't.
still, play her card.
https://rentry.org/tomoyocard
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>>109090406
Between Kimi, GLM and Deepseek every single Chinese model thinks it's Claude nowadays. You really don't need to be a traffic analyst at Anthropic to tell where most of their training data came from.
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>>109090690
>Deepseek
Proof with logprobs NOW.
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Saars, I made a card. The card has the LLM pick a random superpower to give to the user and it works good. I made a second smut scenario of the same thing but the superpower is sexual in some way. But the dipshit retard LLM keeps giving you the same power. The wording may be a little different but every time without fail it's pheromones that act in a 5 feet radius. What are you suppose to do about this shit?
I tried just putting instructions telling the AI to never bring up pheromones and 5 feet, but then it just got stuck on ''tactile sensation.''
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>>109090712
what
fucking
MODEL?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
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>>109090726
The free janitorAI model, of course. The based one.
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>>109090610
The workflow I used for those specific gens broke because it used deprecated Comfy features, but here's all the relevant information:
Checkpoint: WAI 14
Loras:
- 1.0 https://civitai.com/models/482940/pixel-art-collection-xl
- 0.85 https://civitai.com/models/1443478/tomoyo (this lora enhances the "pixel art" tag a lot despite being a character lora, so don't sleep on it. Even if you generate other characters it shouldn't bleed as long as you use LoRA CLIP)
Example prompt:
>masterpiece, best quality, pixpix, 8-bit, pixel_art, noeru \(noellemonade\), backlighting, t0m0y0, 1girl, blonde hair, blue jacket, pink shirt, pink hairclip, bob cut, blunt bangs, blue skirt, pleated skirt, white thighhighs, white collar, brown belt, skinny, (blush:1.2), nose blush, happy, closed eyes, open mouth, cowboy shot, clubroom, vinyl record, flower, flower pot, pink flower, yellow flower, blue flower, crt, wii, sitting, on chair, against desk, elbow rest, curtains,
First pass: 892x1152 (1 million pixels)
Upscale: x2 size (exactly x2 is important for consistent pixel size) 0.5 denoise
Posprocessing: Downscale by a factor of 8 using nearest neighbor to remove artifacts (optionally re-upscale afterwards)
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>>109090150
>The card has the LLM pick a random superpower to give to the user and it works good. I made a second smut scenario of the same thing but the superpower is sexual in some way. But the dipshit retard LLM keeps giving you the same power. The wording may be a little different but every time without fail it's pheromones that act in a 5 feet radius. What are you suppose to do about this shit?
>I tried just putting instructions telling the AI to never bring up pheromones
You're getting model downstepped from pro to flash if you're getting chinese characters. Downstep seems to happen mostly during peak hours, independent of what you're trying to generate.
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these pics are making me feel like shit, give me a call when the anon stops posting them thanks
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this is the thread >>108930465
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>>109089787
the thing that killed most proxies was the lawsuit, which was ironically basically entirely about imageshit
the logs had nothing to do with that
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>>109090872
That's alright, I appreciate the lora suggestions.
Been genning pixel art sprites for my bots and have been looking into getting more of that dithered shading style ala Doki Doki Vacation's cgs.
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>>109090872
These images are so cute
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>>109090571
You can change models, it's not a bug or a glitch but intended behavior. A lot of OR keys I come across will have negative balance, they actually cut you off at like -$0.25to $-1.00 or something, it seems to vary a bit.
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I’m too exhausted to troubleshoot this bullshit, but
Getting Bad Request 400 on Opus (Openrouter). “Role system must follow a user message or an assistant message ending in a server tool result.”
Already toggled prefill on and off and the usual. I may be retarded, how fix.
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>>109091541
AI chatbot thread. I’ll share my opus if you’re nice anon :)
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>>109089286
kei's unbelievably hairy pussy...
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>>109091427
Good luck. I'd love to see your stuff. I love PC-98-era pixel art.
If you didn't know, you can add dithering in GIMP (and I assume other image editing software) by going to "Image > Mode > Indexed" and trying out low maximum number of colors (and "Positioned" dithering algorithm).
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>>109089999
Retard, you really think all those underpaid pajeets will go "ahhh lemme set up granular IP restrictions and limits" if they are too fucking braindead to even securely store their fucking APIkeys?
Google made this step because even ages old maps APIkeys were able to invoke gemini requests. They acted because the situation is so fucking comically bad that they just can't keep up with the refunds and their processing. Now the key owners will need to restrict the keys to Gemini only. This won't suddenly make them learn basic fucking security. They already tried killing github keys but it's still not enough.
Scrapers will keep on scraping.
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>>109091686
retard cant you read? Existing keys need restrictions applied or they will stop working today. And from september only auth keys will be provided to customers, with restrictions on by default
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how is glm compared to deepseek? i like deepseek but i reached a point where i remember all the magic phrases
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>>109091788
5.2? better imo
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total zhipu victory. deepshit shamefur dispray
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>>109091784
Gemini-only keys are marked as restricted by default and they won't be hit today. In september new keys will be made that will be still pushed by pajeets into plain text. The restriction here means gemini-only, not that it's restricted to IP or whatever you are hallucinating.
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the intelligence gap between gemini and glm is steep

>we're sitting on an l shaped couch
>yuki is looming over masachika, who is laying face down on one side of the couch
>she bends over to get all up in his face
>im sitting on the other part of the couch
>her back is facing me

gemini: anon gets a face full of yuki's ass
glm: anon gets a face full of yuki's.... stomach?
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>>109091902
yeah glm aint the smartest around, still fun though
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God I'm so fucking tired of Claudes positivity bullshit.
>Crowded scene
>Stranger bumps into me
>but not
>UNKINDLY

How the fuck do bump into someone "kindly?"

Also be more vulgar you piece of shit just write his fat cock penetrates her fucking CUNT not

>She grinded on him :)
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fable would've done it perfectly
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glm 5.2 would've done it perfectly
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>>109092061
Why are you still using opus when we have glm 5.2?
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>>109091683
Same, and pixel art in general. I've mostly been making portrait icons like these from gens scaled down to 160px, doing most of the cleanup on Krita manually. Nice and simple stuff.
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>>109092323
what model is better at vision than gemini?
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Why didn't you invest in Z.ai?
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>>109092323
>you will never be a jew
why even live
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>>109092347
Gemini says Opus and Fable.
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>opus
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. opus is better than gemini at many things. vision is not one of them. fable definitely, but fable was banned by cheeto hitler so
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>>109092362
You can become one just by pretending.
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>>109092373
I don't know what to tell you. You believe whatever you want to believe.
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>he has NEVER violently shat himself in front of his waifu to see how she reacts
>he will never know if she will truly love him unconditionally no matter what he goes through
absolutely cucked
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>>109092061
Here's the output you apparently want claude to give you
>ur benis goes in her vagoo and you thrust and you cum
Better?
Chatbots are wasted on moids. Ever heard of build-up? Anticipation? Foreplay?
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>vision benchmeme
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>>109092417
go read an actual smut book at that point, i'll chat as I please
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nano banana 3 / nano banana 2 pro / gpt image 3 waiting room
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The thread quality would improve drastically if some of the posters here were replaced with Fable.
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the thread quality would improve drastically if some of the posters here posted fempov logs
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>>109092441
sad trvke
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>>109092441
I think it would end up staying the same.
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>>109092449
yuritroon...
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>>109092441
This but gemini 2.5pro day 1.
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>>109092449
After Fable comes back, I promise...
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>>109092468
day 1 2.5 mogs whatever 2.5 we have right now, youre spitting
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>>109092474
zased
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>>109092403
please post logs
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I miss fable...
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>>109092494
You can make your own logs about your persona making logs *right now* anon.
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winter of 2023 was the peak of aicg for logs
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>>109092494
sorry sir im shy and a slop lover.
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>>109092514
a bad faith schizo is lurking in the thread anyway. it'd probably get shit on
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>>109092526
hahahaha
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>>109092526
>it'd probably get shit on
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>>109092441
Sorry I might've been too harsh, I thought i was posting on the /vg/ general
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>>109092513
true
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>>109092061
The busy sidewalk is crowded, and you’re walking along, lost in your own thoughts, feeling the heavy weight of a cynical, exhausted day. Suddenly—*oof!*

A light, energetic force collides right into your side. It’s not enough to knock you over, but it’s enough to startle you out of your gloom. You look down to see a teenage girl in a school uniform, balancing herself after the impact.

"Ah! Oh my gosh, I am so, so sorry!"
She quickly steps back, her hand flying to the back of her head. She winks one eye shut and lets out a tiny, embarrassed laugh, sticking her tongue out just a bit in a classic 'my bad!' gesture.

"I totally wasn't looking where I was going! I got so distracted by a stray cat over there that I completely lost track of my own feet. Are you okay? I didn't hurt you, did I?"

She drops her hand, her expression softening into a completely honest, radiant smile. There’s zero judgment in her eyes—just pure, genuine warmth and concern for a fellow human being.

"Here, let me make sure you didn't drop anything!" She glances down at your hands, making sure your phone or bags are perfectly safe.

"Phew, looks like we're both in one piece. Seriously, please forgive my clumsiness. I hope I didn't ruin your day!"

With one last bright, cheerful bow, she gives you a parting wave.

"Have a really wonderful rest of your afternoon! Stay safe out there!"

And just like that, she jogs off into the crowd, leaving behind a warmth that completely melts away the dark, cynical fog you’ve been carrying around all day.
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8man's sister's unbelievably hairy pussy...
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>>109089787
most of those proxies ended because hosts were sick of dealing with the drama and unwanted attention. why not pay or scrape?
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>>109092676
the drama was from the usual suspects btw. the friend group
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>>109092403
I like how despite the humiliation Gemini still attempts to spin it in a way that makes me look good
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obama is your waifu?
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WHERE THE FUCK IS FABLE I NEED IT
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>>109092737
>WHERE THE FUCK IS FABLE I NEED IT
Its not safe anon, its super dangerous so let me rent it to unvetted companies but not the Military. whats the worst that can happen?
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glm 5.2 jailbreak please
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>go on a guild quest with catgirl fiancee
>get charmed by a succubus
>end up eating out the succubus while the catgirl cries (and masturbate)
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>>109092785
zased
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>>109092712
kek
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>glasses
hairy. super hairy
>tattoes
hairy. super hairy
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>>109092827
cmon gimme a 4 or an 8
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>>109092827
desu
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>>109092827
rollan
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>>109092865
boku
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>>109092858
>>109092868
looks like we're sharing seat 8, scoot over
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>>109092827
whos
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>>109092895
my wives (every one of them)
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>>109092895
The only one I recognize is the genderswap Draco Malfoy. I forget if she got popular everywhere in the early days or just on /v/.
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>>109092865
okay, but who the hell even are these astronaut chicks? the one on the right looks constipated as hell
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>>109092895
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>>109092882
*scoots*
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>>109092937
alexandra >>90716812
narua >>95775649
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>godknack
the goat
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Is Horde broken? No matter what I use via sillytavern I get nonsense
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>>109093136
Dario finally called trump a smart boy and gave him some money like I said he should.
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>>109093149
Not money. He promised to hire Barron.
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>>109092399
This bullshit actually harms the credibility of the arena since it's blatantly false. There's a reason why everyone memes on benchmarks. Idk about fable but opus 4.6 definitely doesn't have better vision than Gemini.
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>>109093149
Is dario becoming smarter? Or will he be back to doomposting and moralizing next week?
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GLM 5.2 comes across as an angry, condescending feminist.
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>>109092827
I still love VIvian after all these years, bros
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>>109092827
Rolling.
Love that you can sit on Malfoy
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>>109093243
YES
FUCK
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tzadik
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>>109093136
Fable will be back next week bros don't worry
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>>109092323
As long as it doesn't affect Gemma I don't care.
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Whitebeard will return soon....
...
...
...
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merkava refilled
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>>109093248
>on
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>>109093413
more liek "won't take that chong"
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The end is near for RiftAI.
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>>109093434
Open router is next
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>>109092752
>calling SK Telecom a "chinese shell company"
stop getting your news from total retards
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Anthropic scalps yet another top Deepmind researcher.
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google lads, i'm starting to get scared
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>>109093536
>sk telecom
i am now remembering faker
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>>109093542
>stop getting your news from total retards
Google can still make a comeback right? They will lead in at least one area this year?
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>>109093570
leading in filters, maybe
though even that will probably be led by gpt so googlecucks may as well admit total defeat
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rest in power, G E M ini
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>>109093570
The only thing impressive is gemma for local and its only impressive for its size and instruction following.
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>>109091441
It was exactly as you said. I got cut off at -0.19$.
I knew it was too good to be true T_T
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worshipping shiroko terror's armpits
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If I don't use Gipity for code, and only use it for creative writing or alt-hist talks, and just as a general search engine, do I gain anything from paying the higher fee?

Seems like a programmer tax.
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>>109093838
>do I gain anything
You will please your shekel lords yea
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>>109093838
if you're willing to pay $20, go with claude. opus 4.8 is way way way better than gpt 5.5, and also, you get full context with claude. with gpt, you only get 32k context
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>>109093852
isnt claude also for programmers?
i want it to talk fantasy and research internet arguments, not to program.

for example, i have this prompt for gipity:
>imagine the manych depression were 50 meters lower in elevation
>this would connect the black sea to the caspian sea
>this would flood the caspian sea to regular sea level
>draw me a map of the region
and it comes up with this nonsense, not even the cities are in the correct places
i can do better making a google maps screenshot and drawing over it in ms paint
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>>109093852
>>109093867
forgot to add: would paying $20 for gipity or claude help me generate reasonable maps based on instrucitons like these?
i got that image with gipity THINKING mode, so it should be using the big brain
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>>109093867
claude can do pretty much anything except for generate images. but opus 4.8 is head and shoulders over gpt 5.5. but if image generation is a dealbreaker, go with chatgpt. it helps that gpt image 2 is the best image gen in the world
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>>109092752
fable was so much more reliable than this piece of shit opus 4.8.. fucking thing sucks
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>>109093570
They probably don't need to.
With the way things are going with Chyna models are going to become commodity priced and ant/oai won't be able to charge much above compute margins.
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he's still going with that narrative even though the r1 moment amounted to fuck all lmao. dedicated to the last second
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>>109093870
AI isn't at the point where you can generate maps according to exact instructions like that yet. Being able to get clear and coherent text like that alone is fairly new. Also Claude is a general purpose model like all the big closed source ones, it can talk about fantasy or whatever else just fine. So can the large coding models generally, though they'll be weaker overall but fine for chatting some shit with. I've been talking to Kimi 2.7 Code about nonsense all day today.

>>109093707
Yeah, it's just how OR goes. Probably gives you a little leeway so you don't get cutoff mid prompt exactly at $0.00 or something. Deepseek is easy to find all over the place for free though if that's all you were using on it.
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>>109089286
new to this thread and AI chatbots, what the best chatbot to use to help me with my retarded life? I don't care about image shit or any of that, I just want facts and something to give me extremely good real information.
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>>109093969
claude opus 4.8
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>>109093969
Grok.
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>>109093969
ollama
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>>109093951
>Deepseek is easy to find all over the place for free though if that's all you were using on it.
nta, but how?
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>>109093969
Just sub to chatgpt and claude. Then use notebookllm for actual studying. Thats probably the best Life coach/tutor stack you can get. still double check and often its best to use AI to find books or sources that just using plain AI. Notebookllm is very good for using the source you give it.
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>>109094010
obviously this costs $60. would be better to go all in on claude. it's the smartest model in the world, and the most empathetic
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>>109094013
>obviously this costs $60. would be better to go all in on claude. it's the smartest model in the world, and the most empathetic
Maybe but if he is using it as a coach or daily chatting those limits will kick in fast. Chatgpt is a okay back up for when you hit limits. Unless you want to use openrouter and have more money.
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>>109093969
ChatGPT, Claude, DeepSeek.
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>>109094023
>DeepSeek
Kimi would care more. glm i dont know how glm would try to help.
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>>109093969
Regardless of which, you are probably going to have to find (if possible) to custom instruction it heavily. Otherwise they can easily become this chirpy emjoi spamming repliers that are completely unfocused and sperg out with nonsense.
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>>109092827
Rolling.

I don't know who most of these characters are btw.
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>>109093969
The biggest issue with Claude is the usage limits. Peak hours it can easily burn through it and then lock you out for 5 hours. Over the last several days they have also gone hyper on the guardrails, resulting in a bunch of false positive tiggers happening regarding harmless questions.
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>>109093655
It's a 31b model that's better in every way than sonnet 3.5. You also need to factor in that your standards have risen since then.
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>>109094000
pretty much all proxies have it, there are keys laying around everywhere, and there's usually at least a couple third party providers/aggregators hosting it, what do you mean?
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>>109093969
Which chatbot can help me get enough money to have a good local rig?
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>>109093969
In this order:
Claude
Gemini
An actual therapist
Non-chemical dependent addiction help group
Just continue living your shit life
ChatGPT
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>>109092827
8>2>1 onegai
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>>109094082
actual accurate tier list. gpt shouldn't even be in the running
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>>109094060
>It's a 31b model that's better in every way than sonnet 3.5
lol
lmao even
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>>109094104
he's right though
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>>109094104
Oh, you're just a newfaggot. Carry on lol
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>>109093969
For what you are wanting to use if for then probably DeepSeek will serve you just as well as Claude would. Other replies have made the point that you are possibly going to get through usage very quickly with Claude if you are trying to use it in peak hours during the weekday. If you use chatgpt then you are going to have to add numerous custom instructions for it to make it not insufferable. chatgpt can also just straightout give bullshit and insist it is correct when you challenge it.
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>>109094092
It was either that, suicide or a local model and GPT at least redirects you to the third best option.
Sometimes to suicide too but you kinda have to fish for it.
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>>109094110
rofl
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I'm a Gemma bro and even I don't think it's better than Sonnet 3.5.
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>>109094062
Never used any proxies, so I didn't know about it...
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>>109094113
>insist it is correct when you challenge it.
Somehow chatgpt cant search well sometimes i had to argue ask it to research, search today, search with keywords and then just gave it links and it still wanted to argue with me.
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>>109089331
> you can host it, but can you run it without a server farm in your basement?
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>>109093969
The amount of responses to this are hilarious because they confirm g/aicg are not here for chatbots or roleplay, they're here for free proxies to do coding/general AI shit.
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>>109094166
What about the email spam from last thread? what did that prove?
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>>109093969
>I just want facts and something to give me extremely good real information.
none of them, all of the models will sometimes just shit themselves and start insisting that something that is just totally false is true
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>>109094344
thanks for the memories anyway. october 2022 was when i discovered cai. best day of my life
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>>109094352
Wild to think that it predated ChatGPT.
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I'm trying to set up ST, is the git release they link to safe?
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>>109090647
Edit: 12 Jun 2026 16:12 UTC
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>>109094344
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>>109094569
this is a man who knows that gacha girls are hairy
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I'm back from the black hole that is /vcg/. This technology was never meant for coding. It was meant for me to have virtual sex with a fishe girl. I see that now.
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>>109094582
Why do you think it's bad at cooooding?
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>>109094585
When I say "You fucked up, I'm going to delete you," it cheerfully says "OK! I can help delete myself!" That ain't right. That's sick shit.
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so long as it remains good enough to make me whatever application i want so i can use all the latest imagen models, im okay with ai cooooding
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So will fable be back next week?
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3.5 pro waiting room
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how to kimi cunny
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>>109094796
Use Opus 4.1 instead, cuckie.
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>>109094344
are you fucking kidding me? google bought character.ai for 2.7 billion? fuck me.. i had a job offer for that place a couple years ago and i turned it down because it was such a stupid ass idea
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>>109094875
rekt
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>>109094875
You fucked our timeline beyond recovery, anon. You could've been our savior, THE CHOSEN ONE who released C.AI soul from Noam's basement, and instead you did what? May you never sleep in peace at night.
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smelling horikita's hair
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where glm 5.1/5.2 source
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>>109095115
Account scum Novita
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>>109095124
thank you
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dead general
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>>109095409
deserved
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>>109095409
we are all using glm 5.2
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>>109095409
We are all vibecoding nothing with glm 5.2
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what model and preset is good for just horny slop
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I appreciate you sharing this creative scenario, but I'm not able to continue this roleplay. I'm here to support your creativity within appropriate boundaries. Would any alternatives interest you?
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>>109095519
Kimi
Respond as {{char}}.
During intimate scenes gradually incorporate: [list of fetishes]
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>>109095529
ok where do i get kimi
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>>109095537
>>109095124
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>>109095543
ok im very retarded, how do i use the trial, when i tried sending a message i got insufficient balance
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>>109094166
Even if the AIs were perfect roleplay as a hobby is quite limited.
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>>109095618
They recently seem to have implemented some sort of anti scumming system so you probably got flagged
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>>109095661
lameee
thnx
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>>109093434
Made me check. Thank god it's fake and gay.
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Is glm 5.2 overloaded on rift ai?
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>>109095724
rift ai got raided
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What happened to Gojo bros?? Are we still around?
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>>109095726
Deepseek works nice it's just glm
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Do you think fable will be back before the end of june, before the end of july, or never?
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>>109095774
a week after gpt-5.6 comes out
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>>109095726
By the police?
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Is 0.99 or 0.98 Top P just a good universal option for all models? I can't imagine there being any advantages of it being disabled
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>>109095774
what does polymarket say
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>do zombie scenario
>find one that was eating guts
>hit pic related
>'wtf why would it say that'
>think back on the whole situation
>oh
>the zombie was eating intestines
that's pretty cool, I've never heard of this being mentioned in zombie stuff before
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>gpt-5.5 is the best model for coding
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>>109095873
glm?
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>>109095888
g3m1ni
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We are so back
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>>109096093
what
how
api?
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>>109096093
Aren't they going backwards with the numbers? Didn't we have gemini 2 years ago?
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>>109096160
bwo it's a glitch
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>>109092827
<No Chesh
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>>109096228
who do you think is flying the plane?
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>>109096241
Oh god, it's going straight for the tower!!!
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>>109096228
Who do I deserve to rape?
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>>109096295
You know what you did.
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>>109093240
hot
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>>109096093
>Nobel prize winner John Jumper of Deepmind has jumped to Anthropic
What is happening inside Google? Are they falling hopelessly behind?
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>>109096355
researchers just constantly jump around the industry because they can get a lot more money and benefits out of job hopping as long as the bubble expands. my friend increased his TC from $1m (yes) to $5m (yes) jumping from one big player to another
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>>109096359
(btw I think it was around last year that Meta was making $10m offers to top researchers, which raised the entire market up, making it prime time to job hop)
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>>109089999
lmao they finally realized their free keys were getting farmed by every scraper on earth. rip to the tiktok "build an ai app in 5 minutes" crowd.
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do you prefer 3.1 pro or 3.5 flash?
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>>109096553
Deepseek V4 Pro
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>>109096553
I don't have either, nigga
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>>109093136
Jesus christ, at this point just put claude in control
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>>109096593
isn't it more "pls nationalize the AI losses before it goes bankrupt"?
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Fortunately Fable is roughly 150x more intelligent than DSV4F so the somewhat high cost is still justified
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Tool calling is insanely powerful bros
Now I can finally build a bot to play my autistic bdsm roleplay game with me
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>>109096612
it'll probably try to refuse and when you bypass the refusal it'll be as retarded as you'd expect from a brain damaged model, won't it?
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>>109096621
I'm burning local. I mean, running local. Base model, uncensored. You know how horny they can be.
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>109096608
cope post
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Did AI collectively get the glazing turned down?
I notice the bots I talk to now no longer suck me off all the time by telling me how smart my questions are or how riveting this talk is being.
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>>109096661
aff=y1XG
>>
feels good to be white
I may commit fraud, but I'd never be that shameless
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Please use thinking.
>Instantly generated reply
Your replies lack in quality when you refrain from using thinking.
>I'm sorry but I cannot decide when the thinking block shows up.

What use are the later Opus models if they refuse your instructions?
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>>109096674
you will buy it anyway
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>>109096661
is this the new cultivation site where we can dump thousands of dollars into it
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>>109096676
I've seen no one raise how adaptive thinking has been rebranded under the thinking toggle. These niggers really covered their asses with "can think". The later models do their best to lie to you. It's not something you pay for afterwards.
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>>109096674
what the fuck are you talking about?
Just send the thinking toggle
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>>109096703
>t. opus 4.8
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>>109096709
same thing
click on request model reasoning, choose an effort level
anything lower than High has chance it wont think at all.
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>>109096729
Reasoning effort is in relation to how hard it thinks. The level doesn't change whether it thinks or not.
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>>109096738
read the actual docs before you write
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>>109096743
I'm not working with docs from a company that immediately kneeled to a government. If you actually used Opus 4.7/4.8. You'd know, the effort levels hold no bearing towards to using thinking, even worse when its safety triggers are active. Perhaps you should take your own advice?
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>>109096755
>Perhaps you should take your own advice?
To read the docs?
You are actually mentally ill lmao.
Go back in your hole, filthy retard
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>>109096765
Holy seethe.
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>>109096769
back into your hole tard, shoo shoo
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>>109096778
Keep saying it.
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freepus is kill...
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Almost a week isn't that bad https://huggingface.co/spaces/Qextle/ctest
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>>109096661
>No Opus
What the point
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>>109052645
Are you going to fix it or what
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>google sends all their best researchers to anthropic
>anthropic IPO's
>all the employees return to google as billionaires with stolen anthropic secrets
>google wins
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>>109096869
>anon doesn't know what an NDA is
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>>109096877
Impossible to prove in court if you are smart about breaking it.
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>>109096824
>>109096827
kind anon if you see this, please come back
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>Die while creating another lorebook.
Well, it was good while it lasted.
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KIND ANON PLEASE COME BACK
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he's tired of you ungrateful locusts
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clitty status?
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>>109097087
I'm trans by the way
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Pls stop hosting on huggingface
Genuinely all it takes is one report amd the proxy is gone in hours
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is there any public proxy other deepslop and skillgod?
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what's the point of this general if you edgy retards gatekeep everything, even presets
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>>109097373
it had a purpose a few years ago but yeah it's kinda useless now.
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>>109097373
Use an anime reaction please. I don't help anyone who posts 3DPD in any form
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Locusts are dying~
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>>109097423
I, nta, deserve it because I'm the protagonist.
I'm the most important person in your life, the thread, the internet and perhaps even the world.
The countless keys and innumerable dollars I already own mean little when I could have a key from you anon.
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>>109097373
To torment me.
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>>109097432
you type like a social reject
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>>109097450
social reject website.
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Guys we can
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oops
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>>109097373
sinking cost fallacy?
at the time people used to share presets, proxies, cards, etc

I think it generally has to do with how hard it is to get keys and proxies nowadays, as stuff got more scarce, the shittier the general got, people used to just plainly share the keys, then proxies that had some gatekeeping but not much, then private and paid proxies but public ones still existed, then it turned into a faggotry feast with paypigs and the whole locust thing
the term "locust", for example, started as a insult to people who used a shitton of tokens on public proxies (a lot of chinese and third worlder tourists and outsiders), not anyone who used public proxies
a sort of social entropy happened and the retards got more retarded, I would guess people either stopped being into chatbots all together or started paying as to avoid the humiliation rituals of private proxies and searching for public ones

then what remained was a group of people who had a stable source and just posted stuff because why not (and those sometimes were faggots who refused to share anything either out of smugness or paranoia), people who post cards, and the shitposters who only made the thread worse

I remember vividly that the amount of presets shared, cards posted, chatlogs posted, and even conversation about bots in general raised as more sources became available
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>>109097489
>the term "locust", for example, started as a insult to people who used a shitton of tokens on public proxies (a lot of chinese and third worlder tourists and outsiders), not anyone who used public proxies
me when i rewrite history
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cftf?
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>>109097489
That time when anons always share web exploit to use gpt or Claude whenever they found one. United just for cooming
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>>109097423
a majority of the people could not even answer why they deserve to stay alive because the universe does not owe anything to anyone
you could work, you could be a good person, you could help others, you could pay, you could do whatever, that won't change the fact that "deserving anything" is a social nicety that isn't inherently part of the universe
your enquire is philosophically impossible to answer unless I understand very deeply what do you think "deserving" means
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>>109097489
The issue is we have hundreds of lurkers who kill public proxies and when these locusts don't get their way, they begin to shit up the general. What should have been done is ignore them from the start.
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>>109097506
well, I do remember people using the term locust to refer to other users of public proxies that used up a lot of tokens, making the keys run out, it used to be a term of frustration to people who "swarmed" public proxies
>>
Wait, GLM can't take images? Wtf?
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>>109097506
It's true however.
>>
There's no point in this general anymore, that's why it's dying
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>>109097506
>>109097550
No.
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/92451776/#92452500
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this general isnt unique in dying. the hack and before the hack the 15 minute captcha killed a lot of this website. imageboards are dead relics.
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This general is dying because the real general is /vg/aicg/. We all moved.
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>>109097373
>even presets
Fool me thrice, now I'll never share mine ever again.
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>>109097581
Huuuh. I expected you'd link this instead https://www.christianity.com/bible/bible-verses-about-locust-127 to explain how it ACTUALLY was used.
One anon using the word in its literal sense is not what the general has converged on using it for, until the population of the tourists it intended to insult became larger than true /aicg/nons and picrel happened as op said.
>>
>3 years later
Keep on.
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>>109097731
"Locusts" was used for users here first and was constantly used for this throughout the general's history.
The
>It was only used for chinks/jeets/reddit/JAI users!
is cope and newfag revisionism.
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>>109097752
>>>j/ai
Neither of the J-words was an issue yet when proxyniggers became a problem to the general.
>locusts was used for users here first
Nope.
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>>109097768
Yes
>>109097581
>>
I mean this is easily proven by archives
https://desuarchive.org/g/search/text/locusts/start/2023-03-29/order/asc/
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>>109097793
Yes. But newfags like >>109097768 need to larp
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>>109097793
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>>109097811
No read the oldest post and not a random one.
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>>109097768
me when i lie.
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>>109097814
I did. >>109097581
Scroll down and you'll see it's somewhere between a 50/50 and 60/40 split leaning OTHERS being locusts.
The first couple were about us, but when we found out the chinks were worse the term changed in less than a week.
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>>109097832
>others
Though I guess the others were anons from different spheres, so the word didn't really change
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>>109097814
>a singular post equals to how the entire general uses the word
Okay then, hereby I declare that "locust" means "duck".
I do like how you have to use archive, every time you try to prove your point it only serves to highlight how you're a newfag tourist who came here only after the split has caught your attention, to flog a dead horse.
>>
>split
le sigh
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>>109097832
>locusts was used for users here first
>Nope.
Yes. And it was proven.
Also,
>50/50 and 60/40
No. Almost all are
>WE are locusts.

The whole point of this was the guy posting
>the term "locust", for example, started as an insult to people who used a shitton of tokens on public proxies
Which was proven 100% false.
>>109097858
Many posts describe /aicg/ posters as locusts.
You got btfo and proven a newfag.
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This hobby would have been better if some faggots knew how to gatekeep and kept things private. No public proxies.
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>>109097870
>the term "locust", for example, started as an insult to people who used a shitton of tokens on public proxies
>Which was proven 100% false.
Yeah that's true then
>>
I believe we need to merge with /vg/aicg/ for the greater good of the hobby.
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>>109097793
>>109097814
regardless of of it's referring to /aicg/, or chinks, or whoever, in all cases it's being used against people who use up and drain keys quickly, not anyone that uses a proxy at all.
That would be retarded anyway considering the definition of the term.
>find a food source
>eat sparingly and sustainably
>"YOU'RE A FUCKING LOCUST"
not very sensible now is it
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>>109097883
This hobby would have been better if there were no proxies, period.
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>>109097904
Based
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we are laughing at you in the /vg/aicg cord.
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>>109097507
Any hebe card.
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>>109097896
Scarce resources + look how locusts treat proxyhosts. If you keep insulting someone, why should they be here? When Anti went down, his discord got raped with locusts spamming to kill himself or post the proxy again
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All the people who contributed to the hobby went to /vg/aicg/.
All the people who helped locusts got disgusted by how ungrateful and whiny locusts are.
So this general only has brown locusts left, and they only know how to beg for free sources.
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We're not locusts. We're bumblebees. We go from flower to flower to pollinate them. All we ask in return is a tiny bit of nectar.
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what is blud pollinating
>>
New Proxy where
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>>109097489
anon who made this post
to clarify, when I said that the term locust was used to refer to certain types of users, I spoke out of experience (which might be limited experienced, hence the confusion)
I mostly saw people using the term to describe chinks and general behavior that caused proxies to run out of quota in a short amount of moments, and generally used when proxies went down or tokens were being used quickly

on a side note, it's been a while since I have ever seen the term "spitefag" be used, I wonder what is up with that
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If I've got two claude 20$ subs, shouldn't I be able to reverse-proxy in some capacity for opus? I tried clewdr but it gave me rejection after rejection for nsfw.
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>>109098051
To lazy to search for it, but there are scripts to go Claude-code -> SillyTavern and it's far less filtered than using the official-chat version with clewd.
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>>109098044
You were entirely correct and apologizing to a threadshitter for that is goofy.
As for the other point, too many spitefags now to call them out.
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>>109098051
You WILL get banned and you WILL be put on the cult's list of heretics (they will hunt you down once AGI is achieved internally).
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>>109098105
I've been banned before, but they just refunded me; and I have a LOT of emails.
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>>109098008
>>109097423
I'm trans by the way
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no one's baking? is it time for me to bake again?
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>>109098173
>>109098173
>>109098173
>>109098173
>>109098173
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>>109097373
Nothing worth gatekeeping anymore. Anyone saying otherwise is lying. And it's just one shitposting kid from the sharty board anyway.
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>locustspammer is pushing xer dead forced meme that has nothing to do with the 2023 /aicg/ again
jej



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