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Suppose you would start from scratch making the "best" {Image,Text}Board/BBS/Forum, how would it be like? Or what are the things you wish the current options could do better, or a feature you'd like added or removed? How would you ensure the community is good and not retarded? Generally let discuss what makes a good social software and community, and what makes it bad, and how you can manage and moderate it.

Some good links:
>http://shirky.com/essays/a-group-is-its-own-worst-enemy/
>http://shirky.com/essays/social-software-and-the-politics-of-groups/
>https://wakaba.c3.cx/shii/
>http://www.textfiles.com/100/bbsdeath.pro
>https://www.joelonsoftware.com/2003/03/03/building-communities-with-software/
>https://koshka.love/babel/social-reddit.html
>https://koshka.love/babel/normiefication.html
Post more if you have.

A thread where we discussed something similar:
>https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/109025756

>inb4 geoblock india and israel
>inb4 Lust Prov-ACK
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>>109091053
IMHO, the absolute bare minimum is support for Webp images and AV1 video. The problem is many places will apply lossy compression to uploaded Webp images so you get picrel problem.

This place seems to be the rare ones that will not apply any lossy compression to the Webp you upload.

https://umigalaxy.com/explore

BTW I prefer JXL over Webp but practically speaking it's nowhere near as supported as Webp (see web browser support) and poorfags have trouble decoding JXL images so Webp serves as a great stepping stone into better image compression.
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geoblock india and israel
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>>109091114
Sorry if I sound like a shill but here's what made me especially interested in Webp:

https://umigalaxy.com/explore/general/468

Yeah Yeah, JXL BTFO Webp, it's the second coming of christ, next sliced bread, etc etc. However a 20 megapixel image being crammed into 500 KB, that doesn't look like pixlated ass is pretty usable imho.

A lot of websites seem to be adopting Webp as well so adopting Webp would solve the enfuriating task of having to screenshot a fucking .webp file because 4chan is using outdated server software.
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>>109091114
>This place seems to be the rare ones that will not apply any lossy compression to the Webp you upload
Storing files without further compression or conversion is pretty much mandatory for an imageboard. But this is something a lot of sites that accept user-generated content miss.
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>>109091212
>adopting Webp would solve the enfuriating task of having to screenshot a fucking .webp file
Phoneposter-kun...
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>>109091486
It's an incredibly stupid problem to have though. I'm NOT going to take my gaming rig and monitor into the shitter.
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>>109091534
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I like how you start this thread about imageboards but 1 post in we already have webp/av1/jxl bitching.

>>109091261
>Storing files without further compression or conversion is pretty much mandatory for an imageboard.

It's also an easy way to have abusers turn the site into a CP ring by embedding content in the files.
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>>109091662
It doesn't make sense for imageboards to keep using outdated software and image/video codecs FOREVER. True 10-bit monitors/displays in general are becoming more and more affordable. JPG/H.264 look fine on 6-bit + FRC monitors and even true 8-bit ones but they look like compete and total dogshit on true 10-bit displays.
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>>109091053
phpBB
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>>109091726
I'm with you, but 4chan is not representative of all imageboards. Even Futaba Channel uses software that is much older yet adopted webp and mp4 several years earlier than 4chan, and has a reasonable maximum filesize for 2026 AD (8MB, twice that of 4chan) but this site's users will always find excuses for its technical failings and retarded restrictions, for some reason.
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>>109091114
I'd probably reencode pics by default. Used some kind of classifier to use jxl for everything besides anime etc. But kept the option of getting the original file available.
Security reasons. Media will always be a stooge for malware and open sores decoders will always contain backdoors. That much is obvious and certain.
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>>109091862
>generation loss is... le good, actually!
/g/ is dead
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>>109091212
websites adopting WebP isn't because it's a good format, it's because Google Pagespeed is non stop bitching about not using WebP, so every site is expected to serve WebP. As in it's the actual fucking job of webcoders to optimize sites around better Pagespeed numbers. You have insane solutions centered around this, like splitting stylesheets up for individual pages and site headers because Pagespeed tells you that your stylesheet has 24 rules you don't use (insane because the CSS file gets cached, so it only slows down things on first load, and as long as you don't have a million rules in them, the CPU impact is negligible). So sites just add a plugin that auto converts all files to webp dynamically as you view them. Or for content aggregators, something that automatically recompresses everything to webp as it gets uploaded (often the same plugin does both).

Websites literally don't give a fuck about what format they use, they just have the system auto convert to give them bonus points at Google. THAT'S ALL THERE IS TO IT.

Which also means that every webp file you see on the internet already went through at least one generational loss. Which is why the format is cancer, and SHOULD NOT be allowed to be uploaded. Rapeape is a stupid fucking idiot in how he manages 4chan, but not allowing webp is something he got right.

>>109091764
4chan is literally the largest imageboard in the world.

>>109091726
>JPG/H.264 look fine on 6-bit + FRC monitors and even true 8-bit ones but they look like compete and total dogshit on true 10-bit displays.
wow, that's the stupidest fucking take I've ever seen. newsflash: your webp file is just a recompressed jpg, by definition it will never look better, and if your monitor makes webp look better, it'll also make jpg look better.

>>109091881
re-encoding is sadly a necessity to get around embedded CP.

>>109091534
phoneposter problems are not real problems.
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>>109091662
>I like how you start this thread about imageboards but 1 post in we already have webp/av1/jxl bitching.
goes to show that imageboard culture is not worth preserving
let it die
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>>109092050
4chan doesn't have a culture, it resulted in gamergate so the mods are actively trying to kill it at any chance. It's why all meta discussions are banned.
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>>109091053
>imageboard
a federated board system where instances can decide to support certain boards by storing their content locally and serving it.
that prevents having to rely on protections like cloudflare.

that also means the 'main' site is just a portal leading you to every imageboard, managed by independent instances

some systems are using this method (though not purely federated), like h@h
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>>109092038
You're retarded desu senpai.

The jump from JPG to JXL is massive, like 50% better compression efficiency, sometimes more. Webp sits between that so it's not a nothingburger.
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>>109092127
>The jump from JPG to JXL is massive
put your autism away, did I say anything whatsoever about JXL?

>Webp sits between that so it's not a nothingburger.
every single webp you ever use will have generational loss and will look worse because it is always a jpg re-encoded to a low size webp, both to decrease bandwidth and to get bonus points on Pagespeed.

you can wax on wax off with your benchmarks all you want, but it won't change this one very simple fact.
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>>109092038
>4chan is literally the largest imageboard in the world.
That is literally not a response to anything I said and nijiura may and img are each larger than any single board on this site.
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>>109092305
If the JPG in question is a giant bloated motherfucker like say:

Original file (5,562 × 3,708 pixels, file size: 9.91 MB, MIME type: image/jpeg): https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Great_Grey_Shrike_in_Bhigwan_August_2025_by_Tisha_Mukherjee_02.jpg

converted to a ~500 KB Webp here: https://umigalaxy.com/explore/general/468

Then is it really THAT bad? I completely agree that a low quality JPG shouldn't be transcoded to a low quality Webp, there's no way the quality will be non-dogshit. But super duper ultra mega quality JPG to a medium? quality Webp seems acceptable to me.
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>>109091053
>Suppose you would start from scratch making the "best" {Image,Text}Board/BBS/Forum, how would it be like?
The best for the internet? Mostly you'd have support for bulk downloading/archiving, jpeg xl opus etc. (efficient lossless formats).

And you'd also run relatively powerful image quality assessment and duplicate detection as well as image recognition models to add "tags" / "descriptions". A subgroup of mods that don't moderate people but media could curate it like a *booru, mark things to be removed not immediately but after x period to honestly just keep the best media around in larger easier to preserve internet data sets.

Now you have usable data you can also copy filter etc. and USE/reuse.

IDK how exactly you'll finance this tho. It's partly efficient due to deduplication curation over time etc. but also ultimately MEANT to have quite a lot of data easily available in bulk.
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>>109091053
>and how you can manage and moderate it.
Do you have a group of people you've known for years and trust with your life? Make them admins/mods and never recruit from outside the community after it has formed. Only recruit people that have been an active contributor, not just consumer, for years.
Set strict boundaries for your rules and whatever they are, make sure you enforce them ruthlessly. No exceptions because you like the poster or anything like that. If it's off topic but high quality move it to an appropriate subforum/section/whatever, if it's anything else nuke it immediately.
Your moderation inside of threads/posts/whateverthefuck needs to be even more swift and brutal than moderating the OPs.
I've long since stopped counting the communities I abandoned in a heartbeat because they stopped policing derailment and other off topic bullshit.
And if you want to save yourself a lot of trouble ban specifically any kind of politics, shota, loli, ageplay and anything adjacent. Those attract the worst of the worst in terms of users you can attract.
>BB-BUT!
No one gives a shit. You have your reputation for a reason and I'm not talking about (the bugmen normalfags) calling you pedos.
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>>109092380
read again:
>you can wax on wax off with your benchmarks all you want

i mean sure that webp probably looks fine on your iphone but it doesn't have better or even comparable image quality if you look at it in 1:1 size on even a mediocre monitor.
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>>109092038
>generation loss is le bad except when it comes to my paranoid-schizophrenic fear of downloading embedded CP then it's... le good!
you should've spread out your replies across multiple posts, so you at least wouldn't look like a hypocrite, the solution is to apply basic common sense and stop expecting to be handheld on the web, your thought process is what ruined it in the first place

>every webp file you see on the internet already went through at least one generational loss
this is also a verifiable lie btw
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>>109091212
https://umigalaxy.com/explore/general/748-image-settings-beta
Check this out
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>>109092409
* efficient high quality OR lossless (whatever is feasible) formats

small mistake. opus is of course not as such lossless. basically the mods would have to decide too maybe assisted by tooling like automated quality scoring. it's not entirely trivial.
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>Hey guys how do I build a for-
>WEBP WEBP AVIF JXL AVIXLWBP! WE NEED TO HAVE ANOTHER THREAD FOR MENTAL ILLNESS NO ONE CARES ABOUT!
I think you got your answer.
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>>109092409
t. bugman normalfag
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>>109092414
Maybe but you're making it out to be a bigger deal than it really is because to phoneposters they couldn't give a single fuck that the ~500KB webp looks slightly worse than the BIGASS ~10 MB JPG original.

What they REALLY see is:
>"Holy shit this image loaded in 5 seconds instead of 5 minutes!"
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>>109092038
this but I'll also add that webp *also* gets used on sites that just don't fucking care about images looking like relative to absolute shit when you look anything near closely because they just save bandwidth/storage and assume 98% good enough because it's surely going to be 10mm x 10mm on phone screen ZERO FUCKS GIVEN ANYHOW.

Only the product you want to sell has to be at least somewhat pretty, maybe. Everything else make it look like shit.

Either your description or mine is simply a different type of commercial website than what OP is asking for I think.
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>>109091881
I said it should be non-default option. By default it should not be displayed to visitors because of vulns in media decoders. Look up png vulnerabilities. Check out how many of them were discovered for like several years in a row, although you would expect it gets fixed once and it's done, good for another decade, but no. Backdoors are here to stay.
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>>109092482
10 MB should load in 1 second or less.
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>>109092506
Well FUCK Verizon then. 3/5 bars and shit larger than 1MB takes forever to load.
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>>109092422
what does near lossless do? Is that still smaller than a 4 bpp JPG?

>>109092452
>"leave my 90s codecs alone!"
nah, fuck you luddite
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>>109091053
https://litter.catbox.moe/jpfqvwadwi7wewv1.jpg
https://litter.catbox.moe/znpzkrbr8nij6van.jpg
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>>109092422
how do you access this on mobile?
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>>109092753
Fuck off with your pedo shit.
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>>109093111
Petute 18 y old Asian women look like that.

Are you racist anon?
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>>109091119
Anime website, tourist
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>>109092421
>generation loss is le bad except when it comes to my paranoid-schizophrenic fear of downloading embedded CP then it's... le good!
"sadly a necessity" is something you consider "le good"? you are either so fucking stupid that I marvel at the ability that you can keep breathing, or you are some kind of ESL retard.

>you should've spread out your replies across multiple posts
I'm sorry that your phone app can't process more than 1 replies per post, perhaps consider using a desktop computer for more efficient communication?

>this is also a verifiable lie btw
it's an exaggeration but close enough to the truth. the something like 0.0001% native webp files don't even count when everything else is recompressed.
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>>109091534
>I'm NOT going to take my gaming rig and monitor into the shitter.
You mean you don't have a setup like picrel? What are you even doing on /g/?
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>>109092482
>Maybe but you're making it out to be a bigger deal than it really is because to phoneposters they couldn't give a single fuck that the ~500KB webp looks slightly worse than the BIGASS ~10 MB JPG original.

1. why are you loading 20 megapixel images on a 6" screen in the first place? the link you provided has half a dozen resized version that load faster, and you won't be able to view the full size image without zooming out anyway so it is wasted on you.
2. if you have ethiopia tier internet in your place, that's your fucking fault. even goddamn romania has had 1gbit internet available for 2 decades now, last time I checked they were already building 10gbit lines. rest of europe also has 1gbit everywhere.
3. what does it matter if an image loads slow when you are sitting on the loo? it's not like you are in a hurry to go anywhere.

for the record, the full resolution image (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e0/Great_Grey_Shrike_in_Bhigwan_August_2025_by_Tisha_Mukherjee_02.jpg) loads so fast on my mobile that I barely get to see how it loads, it's something like a tenth of a second.

>"Holy shit this image loaded in 5 seconds instead of 5 minutes!"
I call bullshit, if a site loads images that slow then it is probably being DDOSed or AI scraped, or hosted on a commodore 64.
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>>109093249
I has no idea Verizon in the US was third world country shit. retard
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>>109093368
>I has no idea Verizon in the US was third world country shit. retard
That's your fault, practically everyone knows it is.
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>>109092482
You have to be functionally blind to not see the difference between the jpg original and the ~500kb WebP version. The difference in image quality is huge.
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>>109091053
feet
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>imageboards need to use webp because it takes 5 seconds to load a 500k image on my phone

that's all this thread is about.
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>>109091053
This board in the 00s. It just worked.
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>>109093111
she's 3 thousands years old, don't worry anon.
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>>109091053
Don't overthink it just throw some stuff together and change what needs to be changed.
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>>109094829
To be fair it's not just a (You) problem. That 500k image costs less in hosting bills vs a 700k, 900k, and so on and so on. If you upload something to facebook/twitter/other social media it's getting compressed HARD.
IMHO that's what makes imageboards so cool because even though the site owner could save trillions and compress everything you upload to a quality 50 JPG and even resize it to 460x460 viewport, they usually don't.
As long as you stay within an allotted filesize limit, they won't butcher image quality.
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>>109091053 (ME)
I left the thread and the after hours I only found codec schizos arguing, I suppose it's the picture I used that attracted this schizos, but can we return to the topic please?
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>>109094871
>That 500k image costs less in hosting bills vs a 700k, 900k, and so on and so on.
It costs you 0 since decent hosts all allow you unlimited bandwidth.
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>>109091053
>Suppose you would start from scratch making the "best" {Image,Text}Board/BBS/Forum, how would it be like? Or what are the things you wish the current options could do better, or a feature you'd like added or removed? How would you ensure the community is good and not retarded?

I did that:
https://cy-x.net/pane/post/770 (history, philosophy and goals)
https://cy-x.net/pane/post/763 (moderation)
https://cy-x.net/pane/post/718 (ez pz child porn bopping)
https://cy-x.net/pane/post/914 (recent operational overhaul that was less extreme than the original draft)
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>>109094884
Which ones will allow me to host 100GB weights and share them with 100 friends/family for $0/month?
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>>109094927
>Which ones will allow me to host 100GB weights and share them with 100 friends/family for $0/month?
buyvm kvms start at $2 and have unlimited bandwidth. I push near 1tb/month on it.
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>>109091114
Jeetslop formats
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ugly feet
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>>109094896
>(ez pz child porn bopping)
yeah, block russia, ex-ussr, and south america, easy.
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>>109095173
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i'm cursed to only like stinky anal queens
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>>109091053
Need better archiving and bookmarking functions. Get more inspiration from Usenet News.
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>>109094896
Aren't you the faggots obsessed with cargo cults? And you decided to cargo cult newsgroup aesthetics?
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>>109099573
>cargo cult newsgroup aesthetics
NTA but what does this even mean??
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>>109100347
When you read through the threads he linked you'll find that they themselves can't even really tell you why they redesigned it, why they decided on emulating newgroups, much less what they are hoping to accomplish.
If you don't know what a cargo cult is I recommend trying to read.
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The general issue for boards, rather than text, aesthetic, or anything else of that sort, is Image storage

Humans are drawn to posting their shitty memes and images, and it's one of the hardest things to do when you want to scale up from just general text into being a real site. Issues of compliance begin to instantly come up and your fee's start to rise on an astronomical level and you're suddenly limited to what hosts will even host you at that point
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>>109101205
Incidentally that's one of the things imageboards figured out: automatic pruning will make sure you will only need to host so many images, and as long as the boards are fast enough you have a degree of automatic moderation because threads will change fast enough that it's not possible to moderate or pursue legal action against them. Yes, offsite archiving exists, but there's no guarantee that those archives are not tampered with. This is how 4chan used to work in the 00s.
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>high-effort thread
>first post is vibecoder Umifaggot derailing thread
Anyway I think nice-to-have features would be livestreaming, audio embeds, and Discord-style permissions.

Also in this day and age you need an accounts system, the purpose of which is to lower security restrictions on users as they build reputation. Posts tied to accounts also helps with moderation.
That's the technical side, but as for the social side I don't really know. Modelling it on the USA constitution can be a cool experiment, so dividing power between an executive branch, congress, and a supreme court.

I'm in the process of building an imageboard engine in C++ called Fuze Mediaboard. WebRTC functionality this year, fingers crossed.
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https://wakaba.c3.cx/shii/

>Registration keeps out good posters. Imagine someone with an involving job related to your forum comes across it. This person is an expert in her field, and therefore would be a great source of knowledge for your forum; but if a registration, complete with e-mail and password, is necessary before posting, she might just give up on posting and do something more important. People with lives will tend to ignore forums with a registration process.
>Registration lets in bad posters. On the other hand, people with no lives will thrive on your forum. Children and Internet addicts tend to have free time to go register an account and check their e-mail for the confirmation message. They will generally make your forum a waste of bandwidth.

God damn, what a load of horseshit this turned out to be
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>>109101510
The only thing registration really does is fight off bots. But anon posting I think is still correct.

Doing gay fucking log ins and tracking every post by account name and ip is much worse than just retards sometimes trolling and shitting up a board

I've actively stopped posting anywhere in general that's tied to an account considering how much the internet is now all about doing gay ops, It's what leads to this ghost town of nothing but bots and people not saying anything in general
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>>109099573
>>109101153
>you'll find that they themselves can't even really tell you why they redesigned it, why they decided on emulating newgroups, much less what they are hoping to accomplish.
learn to read nigger

>>readability. frost wasnt a good ui
>All of the information you need is right in front of you. Instead of having to click through several pages multiple times, you have access to the boards list, threads from the selected board, and the selected topic all in one page. You do not have to keep going back and forth between pages in order to navigate the website.
>
>Efficiency is important too, y'know.
>
>>its actually funny to cry cargo cult and then adopt shitty old uis
>Do you know why we cry "cargo cult"? Not once in this thread did I ever suggest doing this purely for aesthetics. This project aims to improve the usability of the site.

>I was not required to verify for this post
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>>109101510
>>109101538
The registration thing was pre-mobiles and pre-social-logins and pre-centralization. In 2006, registration was a huge chore: register (and solve some bullshit captcha while doing so), check email for code, click on code, set up your account, make an introduction post, then moderators will review your account etc etc etc. All the anti-bot measures shoved into them regularly broke forum registrations like the initial captcha, even email sending was sometimes fucked. If the board required reviews, then by the time you got to the point you could post, you no longer had an incentive to.

Nowadays you can 1-click-register with your social media account on your phone, so this is no longer an issue. Most sites also just have Disqus which uses 1 account (but can also do social media logins). Or Discord.

>and tracking every post by account name and ip is much worse than just retards sometimes trolling and shitting up a board
4chan still works by doing this, it just assigns an automatic ID to you in the background.
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>>109091053
>Suppose you would start from scratch making the "best" {Image,Text}Board/BBS/Forum, how would it be like
4chan

>Or what are the things you wish the current options could do better, or a feature you'd like added or removed
non-retarded captcha system

>How would you ensure the community is good and not retarded
intelligent jannies
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This is a pointless discussion. You can build the most technically sound and feature imageboard in the internet and there's a 99.99% chance it will fail simply because you won't have any users.
The modern internet is concentrated on a handful of apps and it's almost impossible to build an userbase. Even 4chan is a shadow of itself.
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>>109101507
>livestreaming
Why include that in an imageboard/BBS? I feel like this is way too different a medium to fit in. How do you think this would improve the site?
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>>109101736
*You can build the most technically sound and feature rich imageboard
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>>109101742
it wouldn't be an imageboard, it's a mediaboard. i think it would bring real value, not having to go to Discord or Youtube for livestreaming. it's not inconsistent with board culture.
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>>109101736
I'm going to start forcing niggas off of discord and only use my website
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>>109101736
That's true, but it doesn't make the discussion of the technical aspects any less interesting to me. I enjoy reading different Anons' ideas of what they'd implement.
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>>109101766
That's quite interesting. Would there be different boards/site sections for different kinds of media.

This idea reminded be a bit of MediaGoblin and the way it aggregatea different kinds of media in a single interface.
https://mediagoblin.org/
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>>109101878
>Would there be different boards/site sections for different kinds of media
I don't know yet, except that the same board should be able to hold many kinds of media including livestreams. the separation of boards is not on media type but on topic, as it is on 4chan.
It's mostly a case of "I'll cross that bridge when I come to it".
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>>109092482
>chatgpt post gets 3 yous and an essay
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>>109101510
>God damn, what a load of horseshit this turned out to be
picrel from shii's now archived website
>https://github.com/bibanon/everything-shii-knows
>shii.org/knows/Anonymity.html

>>109101538
>>109101622
But I think that a pseudonymous system would be better for the modern web where every phoneposter retard and his mother got access to cyberspace, so you can build reputation, and when people know that what they will say is tied to an account and not just some graffiti on a dark alley, it's easy to moderate, because now even if you use a proxy or change IP the ban will still apply, people can still make another account, but they should lose something by doing so. I'm not trying to say copy reddit, but something akin to IRC, you need not give an email or a picture of your ass, it's just a username and password.
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>>109101507
>>first post is vibecoder Umifaggot derailing thread

umi may not be pretty but it's still better than this:

> The goal is for a user to be able to download an installer wizard, follow some graphical prompts, and then it will just run.
https://fuze.page/software/mediaboard/

I mean I get the redundancy appeal but nobody wants to host p'.
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>>109102332
The issue with that logic of building reputation is then you'll have power users who dictate the site to push towards whatever standards they would want it to.
Then afterwards they'll begin to dictate how moderation works and you always end up in a spiral where a few troons now control an entire webspace

The point of anonymity in the first place to prevent the few from dictating the mass until it all implodes. All of those old forums always had the same issue, and why resetera even exists in the first place
It's what the anonymous imageboard wanted to solve
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>>109091053
>invite only with tree bans, but otherwise no email required or captcha/wait time garbage
>anonymous by default but with per thread id, also a more standard forum thread setup so that conversations about topics aren't constantly repeated with discussion being lost to the void constantly
>absolutely no image hosting to prevent CIA CP spam
>completely self moderated with a system where every user can vote to ban/warn/delete other users posts, weighted based on a score determined by things like your activity, join date, and record. Obviously introduces its own problems but solves the need for moderator/admin groups which is worth it imo
>decentralized in some way, to prevent ddosing
I've thought about working on this myself as a project but I'm just some C++ retard who cannot understand the insanity that is web development, especially web 3.0 decentralized shit.
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>>109102424
No one will have that sort of power except admins and mods, it's just a handle, no upvotes no nonsense. Just to make it more natural as a social interaction, for example if you think user1 is a retard you can filter all of his posts or even block him, if you like user2 you can follow his posts (rss or integrated) or view all of his previous submissions (if he allows that). And you can easily know who's samefagging or spamming.

Generally, as humans we need to know who said what to carry a conversation and build a "community". Anon posting will always result in a disconnection between the users, and it mostly attracts social rejects and refugees who only come here to say nigger and faggot. An idea where a place is open to everyone without any restriction might sound good to a naive, but in reality it's a matter of time before some retards come and ruin it all just for the lulz, you can still allow it in some specific scenarios, like in a /trash/ board.
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>>109102494
All forums that involve having power users always lead to the same, even something like an incel forum will have a Clavicular that posts the most and then become mega-famous and then your site is now known as the clavicular forum
Top users with the most posts will always create their own follower groups who will then cause more social infighting until they eventually break off to their sub-forums

But again I'm just repeating myself.
Some social rejects saying nigger and faggot are a billion trillion times better than a clavicular
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Why make a forum/BBS and not a mailing list? It's a protocol and everyone got an email.
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>>109102532
But how does this makes it better or worse? I'm sure that Clavicular contributes more to the forum than Anon with his twitter screenshot rage-bait. It's good to have an hierarchy, users will eventually differ and form sub-communities, like here we have many of them, oldfags, newfags, winjeets, freetards, gaymers, AItards, poltards, etc. Yet we're all shoved into each other's throat. All of those silly community problems can be solved by a good set of rules and a good moderation team plus a reporting system based on those rules.

This thread is to discuss what can be the best forum or social software and community, not a comparison between implementations, if there was a good one this thread wouldn't exist. The two extremes are always false; thus a system between the namefagging of traditional forums and utter chaos of anonymity, will be decent if you want to make a community for something you care about, and not just a hub for others to shitpost and spam.

Look at all the good communities you can think about, they're all kind of gate-kept, even if just with a handle. I still love anon posting, but let think of something better if we can.
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What if you can make threads where you can force everyone to post as anonymous?
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>>109102648
this can open another subject, what if OP had more options to design his thread, but not contradicting the general rules or having mod-like powers.
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>>109102424
Spot on



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