It's looking like pretty soon it will be impossible for consumers to buy an off the shelf SSD as supply dries up because businesses buy them all. All sales are for OEMs and Businesses only. >“The retail SSD market has almost disappeared.” That’s according to Silicon Motion (SMI) vice president Nelson Duann, who told Tom’s Hardware the memory shortage is pushing PC makers to buy third-party SSDs, while saying suppliers expect it will get worse in 2027:>The controllers we sell to module makers are now largely ending up in SSDs that are shipped to PC OEMs. The reason is that OEMs cannot obtain enough NAND directly from memory manufacturers, so they are increasingly sourcing SSDs from module makers instead.
>hurry goy, buy up! despite the high prices this is your LAST chance to own your own SSD!yawn
>>109091925How badly did I fuck up not buying a 4TB SSD in December of last year and the year before? I didn't do it only because I was expecting 8TB and 14TB SSD's to hit the market and for cost per terabyte to equal HDD's by this year according to forecast.
>>109091933majorly
>>109091933hows that working out for ya
>>109091933who forecasted this?We're not living in the 90s anymore
>>109091933You didnt. I have 512GB ssd and 16TB HDD
>>109091925I was kind of worried I might've gone too far when I bought around 16TB of SSDs 2-3 years back, but in hindsight it was a good choice.I could sell it now for 2x the price but I'm too afraid I'll never be able to get a fully solid state desktop again.
Don't be a luddite
>>109091933I bought a 2tb nvme ~4 years ago when I built my current system, for ~180usdthe same drive today is ~350usd when its on saletake from that what you will
>>109091925>We are rapidly loosing marketshare to competitors that only have any chance because we are too coked up on the rapidly outrunning PEC money to see how this will end!
>>109091932Consoomer fags will do it, too, ensuring that prices will never fall back down to where they were. Already happened to GPUs.
>>109091925What do you need storage for? Just use cloud and AI.
>>109091925Good IMOI hate the garbage retail middleman more than I could about the actual NAND/Memory suppliers.
>>109091925>>109091932If you want for the hardware prices to come down, acquire physical silver coins.No silver = no electronics = no hardware = no AI.When the bubble crashes you sell your silver and buy way more hardware with it.
>>109092254>Already happened to GPUsWhat were people really expecting if every time njudea releases a new generation of high end gpus, they get immediately out of stock within seconds of becoming available worldwide?That only reinforces them in that selling a 3000$ gpu is okay and people will gobble it up without thinking twice.Plus, it really doesn't help that 100% of gpu production is centered in TSMC factories, so those chinkikes can ask any prices they want because everyone will pay up anyways.
>>109092458This is silly. Silver is such a miniscule part of the overall cost of electronics that silicon manufacturers would be the absolute last to stop buying it. Prices could increase 10x and they wouldn't flinch.
>>109092458
>>109092458Boomers are getting creative about shilling their shiny rocks I see.
>>109092636Supply is so thin that any inkling of retail demand could create a situation where there would be no supply left for manufacturers to buy.
>>109092458Silver is terrible. Any decent $ amount takes up a shitload of space, it's heavy, it tarnishes. If anything, platinum has more upside. It's certainly more rare than gold and sells at a big discount. It's overpriced for jewelry, because it's much harder to work with than gold.
>>109092832>Any decent $ amount takes up a shitload of space$100k fits in a shoebox.
>>109091925damn that sucksthankfully everybody on g knew about the coming crunch for at least 2 months before it actually happened which gave plenty of time to stock up… right, anon?
>>109091925I bought a samsung evo 870 500gb for $70 on amazon like literally a week before the prices went up. Its now worth $275. I still havent installed it, only bought it fir when i need it later. You think itll ever reach $500?
>>109091933>bought a 4tb ssd for $200 in October>same ssd is $600 nowYou fucked up anon. We won't see <$50/tb until another storage tech replaces nand.
China will ramp up production in two more weeks just wait.
Good news: the price of a 2TB SATA SSD is down to $500!
>>109093594the new normal
>>109091925I'm tired boss...>>109091933I bought a 4TB SSD for my laptop two years ago and it was like 190 EUR at the time, I also have 3x16TB HDDs in my home server. If I sold all my tech I could probably buy a brand new Dacia Sandero or something, the market is fucked.
>>109093594nvme drives are cheaper
>>109093666Probably for file servers.
>>109091932Literally the same bullshit the media here in New Zealand was saying about the housing market right before it dropped 30%.>Is this the last chance to get onto the property ladder!!?>young people who haven't bought a home yet might never get one!!it worked too, they succeeded in creating a generation of 25-45 year old bagholders with likely permanent negative equityhttps://youtu.be/qROG2uXPChY
>>109093728cattle are really susceptible to this kinda stuffI bet some in this very thread have already clicked "buy now" out of sheer panic
>>109093594>pay double because samsungDo goyim really?
>>109093594That's a pretty ridiculous price, I can buy a 2TB 990 Pro for less than that.
i bought an 8tb ssd like 18 months ago and now the same one is like $3000
>>109093728>>109093776Eh usually I am also cynical about this BUT I meant panic buying sure paid off handsomely when I did it in November In that case I was waiting on black Friday but didn't believe the news at first of ram prices going up permanently, I watched 32gb at $140 a couple days debating whether I was buying the top, then it suddenly jumped up $40 overnight and it was then that I realized it was no joke. Then it was like 250 a couple days after I bought and yeah everyone knows the rest of the storySame for SSD back then. I only got 2tb though because I don't really need more. any dollar put into SSD past 2tb is better spent on HDD storage. Seriously what do you NEED that much is SSD space for
Usually you say the market is dead when there is no demand for the product.There is demand for storage. The companies just aren't providing the NAND to the market because they get more money from selling it to data centers.
>>109093882that's what they told you, yesyou believe them?
>>109093894All signs point to that being the case.
I guess it's time we got used to HDDs again. It's all sad cos even in the bleakest cyberpunk fantasy there was always a hacker with 10 screens who would hack and fight corporations, create new devices etc. but there won't be any hackers at all. No one will even own a computer. We might be limited to some sort of personal device or, even better, an RFID chip implanted under our skin we could use to connect to whatever corporate intranet we will be members of. Corporations turned out to be even more evil than the darkest predictions. So depressing
>>109093973HDDs are overpriced too.
>>109091925I already have more SSDs than I have a good use for, since I bought a bunch when they were cheap. My main PC is fully loaded with SSDs (both NVMe and SATA) and I still have a 1TB SATA drive sitting brand new in its box. Even my Windows 98 and Windows XP builds have SSDs in them. They were so cheap for so long that it's really down to you if you didn't buy any.
>>109093989
>>109093989we must go back
>>109094036>he doesn't know about paper pricesoh no no no
>>109091925There's a chance this self-corrects if all the AI gayness calms down. Big tech is buying preorders for chips that haven't even been produced yet. If somethings changes they will most likely cancel those preorders and some of the supply will free up into the consumer market. That's an IF though.
>>109094065IT'S NOT A BUBBLE IT'S NOT A BUBBLE IT'S NOT A BUBBLE IT'S NOT A BUBBLE IT'S NOT A BUBBLE IT'S NOT A BUBBLE
i bought like 5 seagate enterprise 22tb drives to go on top of the 5tb in ssd's I had and I think I'll be alright
use case for storing data?
>>109093856I built my pc 3 years ago and 'only' put 3tb of NVME in it. Regret that, but at least I 'fell for' the '64gb meme'.Don't know if I'd even bother now. Seems like this is gonna be my computer for a while.
>>109091925So glad I have 11tb of SSD space in my main PC.I still regret not buying more though.
>>109094065What are you talking about? What is happening right now is Correct—it's the future. Cloud. AI. Devices. Local storage and local compute just can't keep up. You will own nothing. You will be happy. You will subscribe. You will like it.
BTW if you needed more space and didn't buy more SSD's last year well you were an idiot. When ram prices went up people warned that SSD's would be soon.Even in mid January you could still get something decent. Pic rel Gamestop 2tb Gen 4 SSD for 170 bucks.
>>109091933i got an 8TB SSD during black friday. I dunno what you were thinking because 8TB SSDs were already out
>>109094370I remember in PCBG some anon going there during black friday (or around that time) and asking if it was worth it to buy a 4tb SSD and asking for advice which models. I told him get it fucking now.Luckily that anon listened. But I'm shocked by the amount of anons that didn't.
I just put a 120gb ssd in my pc ;_;
>>109095472KEEEEK
>>109095472make sure to debloat your Win7 install, anon, since it's still 2012.
>>109094387I got 3 4TB drives right around then, all between 200 and 250. Holy fuck did I get lucky. Also got 64GB cl32 ram in Sept for around $140, new. Same kit is over 1100 now. If this shit breaks I'm fucked, no chance anyone replaces anything. It would cost close to 3k to put just THESE COMPONENTS back together in the current market. Good lord
>>109095597It's actually fucked bro. I picked up a 64gb set of ddr4 3600 cl18 quad channel ram for like $150 right when ddr5 launched. Didn't even have a use case it was just a good deal. Now? Fuck TRY to find quad channel ANYTHING. Sorry plebs, you get mismatched sticks at 500 bucks a piece.
>>109092678if silver rises 10x the retail demand would turn into massive retail supply as speculators like yourself cash out. holding silver is no different from holding short positions on the stock market. just gayass speculators looking for their new free lunch.the liquidity of gold is its real strength. the structural diamond hands in central banks who MUST hold gold for the sake of normal operations. dumbass retail is too stupid to be in finance and this here is exactly why.
>>109091980> majorly? more like marginally
>>109092254> consoomer fags crying about prices while still lining up to buy is the funniest bit.
>>109094290>gameslop ssdlol lmao even
>>109092678there are several hundred silver mines, even in fucking europe
>>109092458Is silver the new gamestonk wallstreetbets reddit thing now?
>>109091932How is holding out working for your ram purchases? Thought so.
>>109091933you deserve to suffer for being this blind and retarded
>>109094370NTA but 8TB SSDs were scarcely available and I had three 512GB SSDs and two 256GB SSDs from 2019.
>>109097115How could anyone have expected the sudden rise in prices late last year or the year before? If you didn't need it at the time, you don't buy it.
>>109097123>How could anyone have expectedEvery corporation was telling you it was gonna happen. But the usual retard chan users refuse to listen.
>>109097123I thought the same thing but for sd cards and now that I need some I'm eating shit
>>109094290>no DRAM no thank u
>>109091933You had no way of knowing. I feel incredibly lucky getting mine around that time when I did. It’s got 3TB worth of junk on it though so I need to move that shit off it and get it into my PC proper.
>>109092076Same! I have 3 2TBs (one of which is PCIe 5), 1 4TB and a 512GB model. Also got a bunch of SATA SSDs. I thought maybe I was going overboard at the time but now I’m feeling like I’m good for the next 5-7years.
>>109097123>If you didn't need it at the time, you don't buy it.IDK why people who ever touch a bare PC component are trying to be "rational" I don't blame people but at the same time building a PC and talking about needs are getting to be 2 wildly different concepts nowadays.I bought close to 12TB worth of SSDs in 2023/2024. I didn't need it for anything in particular but I wanted it and prices where almost rock bottom.
>>109094065>Big tech is buying preorders for chips that haven't even been produced yet.Literally how every single order works genius.>some of the supply will free up into the consumer marketIt is not the same hardware, there is nothing to go to the consumer market.
>>109094289> You will subscribeWith what money? That is the problem.AI causes you to get fired and causes prices to go up so you can't spend on the subscribtion.It is the question the powers that be keep passing along hoping AGi will answer it.
>have a spare SSD>current SSD is at 98% healthphew
>>109095481>>109095561STOP MAKING FUN ;_;
>>109097318I had a scare yesterday with my own 98% health SSD. I thought the stupid thing was dying due to performance randomly dropping off a cliff while I was using my PC, but a secure erase & backup restore seems to have brought it back to full performance. I need my PC to work so I almost decided to order a replacement on the spot for next-day delivery, glad I didn't jump the gun for like $450 on a new 2TB drive.
I'm burning shit that I can't justify keeping on live storage to DVDs and BDXLs with DVDisaster error correction data.
>>109097318>samsung 850 evo 1TB from 2017>rated for like 150 TBW (DOGSHIT)>written over 60 TB, so over 50% of it's rated life>still 96% life rating in crystaldisk??????????????????????? ok>>109097340it's ok anon. Times are tough. Most games only need HDD support and load times aren't too bad, since even during the PS4 gen games were still designed around the dogshit 5400RPM HDD and literal SATA II interface. Find a used 4TB HGST or something. If you need I/O bandwidth for productivity well.... you're fucked.
Really glad I impulse bought an extra SSD now. I really what happens first, datacenter demand going down (for various reasons) or supply giving enough breathing room for consumers to be viable customers again.
I'm going to have to recycle msata drives from my laptop.
>>109091933>how bad did I fuck up..HugelyMassively I bought three of these BTW
>>109091925ted was right
>>109092458lol, this desperate leaf thinks his shinny metal will someday buy him a house.
>>109092458You got scammed, you fucking retard.
>>109091933>How badly did I fuck up not buying a 4TB SSDBuy one now and then come back and tell us how you feel.
buying an 8TB 9100 pro @ $900 feels like the last chopper out of nam
When can we expect cheap chinese ssd? Just like china has done with CXMT ddr4/5 memory.
>>109100893Not that leaf, but have you seen the silver price chart in CAD for the last 7 years? Post it here so we can all take a look.
Historically, the value of PC hardware has aged like milk. People just throw away old obsolete PC's because they're so crappy that you can't even give them away. However, things have changed a bit. Currently, a ten year old PC with a 1st generation Ryzen cpu and mid-range graphics card from 2016-2017 is still a perfectly performant PC in 2026. You can do all of the typical everyday "computer things" on that hardware and play most PC games. It's not obsolete.Perhaps computers are going to get more expensive and retain their value since we're at the point where any PC made from hinse forth is going to remain a "good PC" forever.
>>109101056someone could start up a new memory business in the west now and steal all the marketshare overnight, then go on a neverending PR campaign about how all the other evil corpos abandoned the consumer and bury them permanentlysame with GPUs though those are extremely difficult to make and compete with the big boys even with geniuses on your team
>>109101190I built my pc last year and it's worth $1500 more today
>>109101201In my circumstance, there's gives and takes. I built my PC around 4-5 years ago when GPU prices were expensive due to crypto. I paid around $1000 for my 6800xt graphics card. which is now around $400-$500. BUT.. I bought my 64GB of DDR4 and my three 2TB SSD's way cheaper than they go for nowadays. KINDA balances out, somewhat.
>>109101190this is precisely why things like copilot and other LLM integrations are being pushed so hard. So long as you can get TPM to work (or not if you know a workaround), you're fine to just do "computer" things like browse and play a couple low spec games. But if suddenly you can't do what your job wants you to do which is supposedly to generate massive amounts of bullshit with an LLM, then you're no longer able to do the "computer" tasks required for a normal user and need to upgrade to a system with some type of NPU. The other solution is to rent the compute from a vendor. Either way, some company wins and you lose for no real reason.
I built my 7800x3D system back in March 2024 for around $2000. Looking back I would have spent a little more for a 4tb SSD, but beyond that it was a pretty solid purchase. I have 48GB of DDR5, which is still good for me. Didn't need the 64GB and the new ones aren't much faster. Only debate now is whether to upgrade my 5070ti to a 5080 super when they come out. The extra vRAM will be good for Quest 3 PCVR.
>>109091933After everything started going up in december I went and bought an 8tb 7200 wd black hdd because I knew prices were going up on everything and I really needed the space.
>>109091933People knew of the price increases before they happened. If you need the storage, you fucked up badly.
>>109100543I want to go back.
>>109102304Those are all gen 4. Gen 5 was more than that.
Even the dumb usb drives have dramatically increased in price.
>>109091925This shit is turning me into a socialist unironically. Hang all corpo execs.
>>109102480It's all so tiresome
Businesses should not be allowed to shop in the consumer market some PC OEM should not be allowed to go to a Best Buy manager and work out a deal to buy all the SSDs in there
>>109103704Generally aren't.But the NAND and HDD manufacturers are selling to companies that will decide to put more of what they make into the business segments which leaves less for consumers.
>>109091933>4TB SSDYou fucked up not buying it in 2023 when it was $150.
>>109101195>someoneWhy not you?
>>109102304Let's burn down data centers. All of them.
>own nothing>be happy
they're all going bankrupt and that's a good thing
Just so you know, if the bubble does hypothetically pop, they are still going to find an excuse to wind down supply to keep prices high Then again most of us might not have jobs to pay for any storage either way
Still don't really understand what you need so much SSD storage for
>>109102353I see you are a dumb marketing retard. my Gen3 drive has 8GB DRAM and can sustain its “slower” write speeds for hours while the DRAMLESS shite they sell now as Gen5 can only burst to its top speed for a few seconds then it drops to a fraction of the sustained write speedof my gen3 drive.give me a gen 3 drive with DRAM any day
>>109091925>why do they hate usreason number 4737 people hate this shit: destruction of consumer markets to feed a global surveillance state to force the injection of advertising into increasingly hostile users lives
>>109092140wrong, you should always question the technology you use, and you should doubly question any technology that is being forced upon you always be a luddite
>>109102480and goy cattle continue to eat up the "muh datacenter" bullshitno dumbass, they are raising prices because they feel like it
>>109093783Goyim are 100% to blame for this, whether they're consoomers or the shabbos goyim who are ripping people off with fake supply shortages and price gouging.
>>109105808That is only true if you are using crap drives. Gen 5 drives have higher burst and sustained speed.
>>109102480Those are too unreliable for me to take seriously, you can leave them on a shelf without ever using them then they fail after less than a dozen uses. Even worse are micro sd cards.
>Bought 2 8TB NAS HDDs, waffled on another 2 to fill out my NAS because I could pay for but not comfortably afford them at the time>Over twice the price nowI'm not deleting a goddamn thing. Fuck
>backed my non-media data up to long-term HDD for cold storage>precious documents and such are on an M-disc buried in my backyard in an airtight container>handful of NVMe drives i panic bought awhile back in EHD enclosures for regular uselean times may come but my data will remain, fuck you billionaire cucks
>>109105332Data hoarding forwhen the internet finally dies for good.
>>109106491because you got fake ones
>>109106697HDD gets your far more TB/dollar and there's no data in the world that you need the speed boost
