>Windows updates once a month>Linux updates multiple times per weekWhat's with the "Windows updates le bad" meme? It's way better than Linux on that front.
there's a new update every 2 weeks on tuesday and they enable/disable features daily through the CFR system
>>109094203At least you aren't in the insider program and only apply patch Tuesday updates. I only get security updates on my Debian desktop, same for my Ubuntu server and my Steam Deck gets a big update every 1-2 months. + they are much faster.
Linux:>AN UPDATE IS AVAILABLE>Libnigger.so updated from version 0.9.3 to version 0.9.4!>Click here to update!>Oh, updating requires admin privileges>the next day>AN UPDATE IS AVAILABLE>Libfaggot.so updated from 1.0 to 1.0.1>Click here to update!>Oh, updating requires admin privilegesWindows:>no admin rights required>updates on reboot automaticallyWhy is Linux better again if it pesters you for updates?
>>109094393>Why is Linux better again if it pesters you for updates?Because you can actually turn it off.
The way updates are handled depends on your distribution, and you can probably customize it to exactly how you want if you look into itI use fedora atomic and have it set to update once per month. It doesnt need to apply updates like windows so I dont even notice it
>>109094203I haven't fell for the Linux pill for the last 3+ and probably won't again for a whilebut doesn't Linux install updates without forced reboots? I thought that was a major part of why they keep it on Servers (aside from general stability)
>>109094641Usually you need to reboot if it's some kernel update. You can just disable updates and do it when you want anyway.
>>109094641>but doesn't Linux install updates without forced reboots?Updating kernel and core packages requires a restart. I think this sort of misconception came about when Microsoft became more pushy with Windows updates, and some Linux users smugly declared "Well, you don't have to restart Linux!" which is open to misinterpretation. You don't "have to", unless you want to update it.>ServersThere is live patching but it's kind of a different thing, and not relevant to regular use.
>>109094433This, I noticed when you give people control over when they updoot, they'll actually fucking updoot, Windows forces you and people end up just disabling it or running Windows 7 with no updates like I did, yet I find myself making a point to updoot my Linux just because I do it when I want, it's some weird psychology shit.
>>109094203retard
>>109094898Na, I've noticed the opposite. 3 of my friends moved to arch and none of them update their machines. They didn't like plasma asking to update so they switched off automatic updates.
>>109094898It also helps when the updates don't come with anti-features.
>>109094393You can update when you want. You can remain with older packages if you want. You can remain with a vulnerable system if you want. You can actually watch the system update and be certain when it starts and when it ends unlike WInblows where the bar goes back and forward and you dont know it the update was successful. That's not a thing on Linux.
>>109094393>Linux updates>You have the OPTION of having an icon that tells you when an update can be installed, you can choose to completely ignore specific package updates or not as you please>Updates while the system is running, if it needs to restart it will tell you and won't force a restart on you>Windows updates>NEEDS to update, you don't get a choice>Don't want the update? Too bad, even if you keep clicking the "delay" button you will be forced at some point>updates take fucking forever on windows and have a noticable impact on most systems especially during intensive work>Again, no option to disable them so it can force updates during important tasksWindows updates are torture, Linux updates are entirely optional and can be customized if you hate the idea of X package updating.
>>109094911Kek why choose a rolling release distro then?
>>109094955They don't even know what rolling release means.
>>109094917That too, FOSS would never fuck me like microsoft so I embrace the updoot
>>109094393Your GUI software store pesters you not Linux. I have no idea what half of this thread is even talking about because I only update through the terminal, when I choose to, and I don't even have one of those stores installed in the first place. How do you think your install would work if you removed the desktop and booted into a tty without any GUI? Do you think this would change anything about how updates are handled under the hood or you wouldn't be able to update? Your blaming the behavior of a completely optional program on your OS.
>>109094393This. Every time you look at it, Fedora wants to do another “REBOOT REQUIRED” update. There’s a reason Windows is king of the desktop.
>>109094969You have just as much control over those updates as you do using Windows. You gobble up whatever the distro tells you to and just pretend to love it.
>>109095140I'll gobble up based FOSS, yes, and Linux at it's default lets you doesn't force anything, Windows is like fuck you you're updooting, yes the OS is getting worse version after version and you're gonna like it.
>>109095131>He doesn't use Sid + needrestart + needrestart-session
kill tuh windows userhave you seen the update contents
>>109095140you don't, even if your a sysd user you can allow/deny a lot
>>109094864>requires a restartThis hasn't been true for over a decade or more. Ksplice has been a thing for a while. If you're running Ubuntu or derivative distro, you have canonical livepatch. The only reason most distros don't ship with one or the other is that most Linux users don't give a shit about rebooting for a kernel update because unless they updated the kernel for a specific feature or bugfix relevant to them, they know they don't even have to worry about a reboot until they're damn good and ready. But it's pretty trivial to install a livepatch system on any distro and never have to reboot again.
>>109095178meds NOW
>>109095178>Room temperature IQ>Most freetards have home labs>Room temp is 125°F
>>109095549Joke's on you, my room is in kelvin
>>109094203>build new PC 18 months ago>install Bazzite because Windows 11 broke things with forced updates more than once>every game I play just works>get a random update every so often, but the updates are tested and always work>forget I am using Linux unless I think about it hard enough>my buddy who uses Debian never has any issues on his PCsstop using shit distros and you will have a good time anon.
update on linux>tell package mgr to update>downloads and updates all software, not just os, within 1-2 minutes, while system is running, can keep working>if its kernel update you may want to restart (optional)Update on windows> windows tells you to update now, click on delay within 30 minutes or it takes the wheel, might lose your data, might take an important system down, not your choice> will restart the system, always> might spent 10-30 minutes after restart to apply updates. In this time you are locked out of your pc. Not your choice. Have a remote meeting you need to attent using your pc? Well good luck, i hope u have a backup machine> only updates your os, not all the software installedYes windows is much better
>>109096540>will restart the system, alwaysI've never had that issue and I've used almost every Windows version after 3.1 except 11.Maybe lay off the crack pipe for once
>>109096556>it's not a problem, except on the supported versionhmmm...
>>109096556Yeah, when I used Windows 7 and XP in 2025 I didn't have that problem either.
>>109094203>On linuxDisable update notification, update (even selectively) whenever the fuck i want.>On windowsDisable updates or get them forcedly shoved down your throat. If you want to update at your own pace you have to parse them through powershell and check group policy and registry after to see if one of the updates reverted the automatic updates service on EVERY FUCKING TIME.Windows updates are one of the main reasons i cannot stand working on a windows machine, you must be genuinely fucked in the head or a complete cuck to think that windows is the preferable choice in this regard.
>>109096924>no retortConcession accepted
>>109094203maybe you fucking idiots using rolling release distro's should learn what the fuck you're using before complaining. linux requires a brain.
>>109096951You may keep calling me a poopoopeepee head all you want, doesn't change shit nor you're making any point with it.
>>109096967>>109096967look at these brainiacs
>>109096967stop acting like theres some sacred linux community to protect when its just a bunch of autistic backstabbing faggots who hate each other more than they hate windows. please you fucking faggots astound me
>>109096505This, you stick with your fedoras and ubuntu based shit and you're fine, niggas ugo and use for niche shit and be like linux dont work
>>109094203Why do we need updates at all. I am jerking off to the same shit since 2001.
>>109094393On Fedora, it always pressures to reboot while updooting, and then automatically rebooting AGAIN, after completion, which, with LUKS-based volumetric encryption, means entering your passphrase twice.
>>109094203both are slop
I type my upgrade alias in my console and it updates all my packages in like 5 seconds and then I close it.
Who cares if an update is available? It doesn't force me to do anything. Or even ask me to update. I just go to discover like once a month or so and click the update button
>>109094898That quite literally never happens and is a big reason why Microsoft switched to forced updates.
>>109094393Linux:>AN UPDATE IS AVAILABLE! HURRY UP AND UPDATE!
>>109094203I can use my computer while it is updating, instead of being locked on a blue screen of "we're computing like 1995".Also linux updates are just replacing files, instead of mangling a lot of existing files and system registry shit that takes a decade to perform regardless of how fast your PC is.
>>109094203>>109094393>Linux updates multiple times per week>Click here to update!You can check for updates as much as you want, and install those that are available, but you are in no way compelled to do so. Update checking and installation can be automated, manual, or entirely disabled, and your system will continue running without issue.
If I disable updates on Windows I can still install most of the programs for a decade or more. Sometimes they need newer version of Java or other shit but it's rare.If i disable updates on Linux it will shit itself after few months. There will be no way to install anything cause it will require newest version of your system and other 5000 dependencies. Had updates on my Mate disabled for a year and it couldn't even update itself anymore cause of lacking repositories or some other bs.
>>109098338appimages, flatpak and setting proper LD_LIBRARY_PATH solved this, also not using mongoloid rolling release distro like arch prevent the problem you experienced
Windows takes forever to update, locks you out during that, does multiple reboots, which also take much longer than on Linux.Most updates on Linux don't require reboot and just work, depends on distro.If there is a larger update you can also do systemctl soft-reboot on Linux and you are in a fully upgraded user land in seconds.Windows updates are also not managing your software at all, but just the core, not even drivers, while all Linux distros are basically giant app stores that manage updates to most, if not all, of your software installed, and the Linux kernel holds all driver updates.On Windows you have countless trust-me-bro update daemons running that promise to only check for update's of the software they manage. That this ever became a thing shows how bad Windows is.
I know I am retard for using a shell script from GPT to update all my packages automatically with needrestart hook, but no way I am gonna bow to loonix trannies's will.
>>109098187As you commanded, daddy Clem
Unix is not made for the end user but AT&T was stubborn as Paul Schindler had already said, since you are forced to update and reboot every day at the risk of kernel panic, while the windows update happens once or twice a month. For this reason, microslop system is and will be 100 years from now vastly superior.
>>109098363This
>>109094641I haven't FALLEN*** for the Winblows pill for the last 3 years and probably won't ever again lest I end up in possession of some wacko hardware that needs it and even then I'll use dualboot my laptop with 10 LTSC if it's so important. If it needs 11 well, there are two dumpsters within walking distance of my house.I mean I've been literally updating the same arch install for nearly 3 years and it still works. Never listen to /g/.>but doesn't Linux install updates without forced reboots?Depends. It always depends. Typically whatever is currently running will remain the old version until you restart it. Firefox outright asks you to restart if it's been updated while running.>I thought that was a major part of why they keep it on Servers (aside from general stability)Maybe, I think it's more about performance and support, both hardware and software. Hotmail ran on BSD for an eternity cause Windows sucked so fucking hard at this.Livepatch is a thing, no clue how it works but it exists, you can update your kernel while it's running, probably comes with a good few strings attached tho, I really got no fuckin idea about that shit.
Yeah, the Linux kernel continues to move on an unstable path. But nothing else works as well.
I will be brutally honest with you, mac os do it best way except for killing older devices, they release full upgrade once a year with security patches every 2-3 months and that's it, plus when the support is dropped you simply stay on any last version you like
>>109098187>install software that tells you when there's an update>it tells you when there are updates>you get madgenuine retard behavior
