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Snailcats rejoice! Soon you will recive $1,000 for being left behind unemployed. Say thank you senator sanders!
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>>109097736
dank u nernie nanders
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he wasn't the first person to have this idea but if it happens i'll thank him by typing this post and the following line
"thank you, senator sanders"
andrew yang mentioned this in his campaign
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How is the AI going to plant crops and bake bread for these people who decide to live of that $1000?
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>>109097794
robots and automation are involved in farming today and automation will increase. do you think farmers will quit their jobs for $1,000 a month? maybe some will but a lot won't
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>>109097804
How are you planning to use Large Language Models to bake bread? Or are you talking about some other AI?
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>>109097813
robots. do you bake bread? maybe bakers should be paid something and receive ubi tax-free in addition? do people dig with machinery or by hand with spoons?
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>>109097817
Kitchen robots didn't change in last 10 years. Why introduce 1000$ ubi now and not when there was a last breakthrough in food making technology?
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>>109097824
there will be more progress in the next 10 years than the last 100 years
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5hQBbltZcQ
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/zZ5E0tVMrfU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZ5euQh0NBE
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>>109097804
Erhm it's $1,000 a year not month
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>>109097836
Let's wait with UBI until we get dem robots baking bread and cleaning streets.
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i'd rather eat machine made bread than bread made by humans who are very bad at cooking
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>>109097843
people will die and this isn't 100% my decision or your decision as far as i know
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>>109097836
In 10 years we'll be in such a hellscape that you'll wish the world ended with Iran.
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>>109097839
don't make the perfect the enemy of the good
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a step in the right direction doesn't prevent future steps being taken
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>>109097736
FUCK OFF you Jewish communist scum. You are Chinese socialism can shove it up your own ass. We don't need $1000 free payouts. The billionaire tech bros and their massive data centers can keep their well earned cash.

NO FUCKING FREE HANDOUTS! FUCK GAY CHINESE COMMUNIST CRAP!
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>annual
Lol
Lmao
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Fuck are you gonna do with 1000 a year? Can't survive with that for a month
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>>109097736
just remove all the other social service bloat and replace it all with a monthly ubi
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>>109098047
Escape to Balkans and live like king
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>>109097736
Meaningless in the longterm because of inflation
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>>109097969
>The billionaire tech bros and their massive data centers can keep their well earned cash
>well earned
LMAO at this JEW
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>>109098256
There are 400 million meatbags in usa. $1000 per person is 400 billion which is going to be a huge amount even 40 years into the future.
a more likely outcome would be that this will bankrupt all hyperscalers.
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>>109097868
Losing a $100k job in exchange for a $1000 good boy check isn't actually "good".
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>>109097794
>plant crops and bake bread
That's already done by machinery. You only need one guy to plant tens of thousands of acres of crops and factory bakeries are almost entirely automated
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>>109097736
Assuming AI ever actually turns a profit.
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>>109098334
Lets assume that top AI companies could still cough that up. Once that money is distributed people are gonna buy tons of stuff like they did during covid stimulus. In couple of years that is gonna drive prices up for everything and $1000 UBI becomes in couple of years. It makes the situation worse for everybody
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>>109098047
its a free gpu every year.
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>>109098361
Anthropic has shown path to profitability though
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>>109098342
what 100k a year job?
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>>109097836
>expect videos of technology
>it's just some jew talking
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>>109097736
AI companies already lose tens of billions per year. Where is this $350ish billion supposed to come from every year?
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>>109098770
The ai labs will have to pass on this tax to their userbase. this would have worked except for the fact that users can simply switch provider and avoid paying this tax.
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hourly reminder that UBI is a commie fantasy that will never happen because it implies that the average person is worth anything and that governaments should pay them to exist

governaments. the same people that have always failed their own regardless of being left or right. these people will now magically allow us all to live without working. absolutely fucking delusional. if UBI does get implemented we can expect WW3 or genocide on a global scale to come with it.
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>>109100134
the average person is underpaid
you also assume that technology and the world as it exists will stay the same forever
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>>109098256
This is the main problem with UBI. If everyone has 1000$ it will become as worthless as dirt.
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>>109100169
cost of living adjustment
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>>109098055
But anon, no, we can't do that. The social service bloat is essential to make sure as few people as possible are able to jump through all the hurdles to get in.
Ask me how I know. Actually, maybe don't.
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I don't want $1000 a year (lol), I want them to democratize LLMs so that I can run something like GLM5.2 at home without $100k in hardware.
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The public should get a share of AI profits so we all pay $1000 Dario and Sam's creditors instead
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>>109097839
The future underclass will be living off of rat gizzards and street sweepings, mix>>109097843
ed with a little Gates Butter (tm) for flavor
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>>109097794
> you think the AI is gonna do your dishes too? lmao just buy a bakery and a tractor, anon.
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>>109097804
> imagine thinking a farmer who drops 200k on a combine is gonna trade it for a grand a month

they'll automate anyway, you just won't own shit
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>>109097804
I suppose you could buy $83 worth of rice and beans a month and live on the streets.
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>>109097736
So we have to agree to let data centers be built everywhere, enjoying subsidies and credits, knocking down houses, gobbling up land, hogging electricity and water, all for minimal job creation. In return, we get a pittance, probably a taxable pittance at that?

Come on now.
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>>109097736
Yeah they'll pay out of their profit (lol)
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>>109097736
That won't even cover the amount your electricity and water bills increase.
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>>109097736
>our evil masters are unapologetic parasites on goyciety so lets parasitize them instead
real leftists are so fucking based holy fuck, I knew bernie should've won 2016
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>>109101385
Yeah! Just think of all the Funko Pops you can buy with that money. Bernie is truly the best!
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>>109101389
>muttcattle mind immediately inundated with thoughts of funkiepop goysumerism
it doesn't matter anyway, this will never happen
you put literal satanists in power instead and already sealed america's fate
be sure to thank your masters for the privilege of having served them so well on the way down
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>>109101426
>you put literal satanists in power instead
Not our fault the only opposition was... female. Twice.
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>>109101685
female bad?
Margaret thatcher would be infinitely better than the fat annoying orange
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>>109097736
Inflation would just immediately go up by $1000.
Have you fuckers not learnt anything from the covidbux?
You stop inflation by stopping people from spending.
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money, intelligence, and being human are all related but not the same. since technology has been developed, it might be possible to buy intelligence. it also might be possible to be entitled to intelligence just by virtue of being human. sam altman discusses this. people might also need to be entitled to money just for being human. these questions will need to be thought about. when humans don't need to work, what will they do? the world today is different than it was 10 years ago. it will change more in the future.
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>>109097736
AI isn't even profitable while being subsidized by tax payers, how is it gonna be profitable if it has to pay taxes?
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>>109097787

You should know by now that this is a typical Saturday for any politician. Their job is to tell you what you want to hear. You're welcome to believe Senator Sanders' senile nonsense of course but I can say with absolute certainty already that UBI is not coming. Same way President Biden promised $10k/20k of student loan relief.
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>>109097736
$1,000 a year isn't UBI, it's called a dividend. That's only possible if you're a shareholder in the company.
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>>109097736
1000 in Switzerland isn't even enough for food or even half your rent lol.
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>>109097824
robots can make more robots to make more robots in 10 years.
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>>109103979
That's like 2 tons of potato M8
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I like how bernie was like
>tax the millionaires
then he got a couple million bucks and three houses and he was like
>tax the billionaires
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>U MUST GIBS, GIBS, GIBSMEDAT GIB IT NOW
Why is the west like this?
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>>109097736
there's a flaw in his plan given that THAT AI makes like negative 20 billion.

i am wondering if everyone else in US congress/senate will agree to pay the negative sum from US citizens. money flow in the other direction.
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>>109104470
Modern communism is just about jealousy and greed. They all are jealous that someone has more than them. It's why it's extremely popular with college kids and 20-somethings that are in a ton of debt. They hate the rich because they want to be them.
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>>109104584
wh*tes lust after Judeoblackness
wh*tes colonize Judeoblacks
wh*tes gotta gibs Judeoblacks dat for free
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That's antisemitic
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>>109100483
This x1000.
We should all be able raise our own AI daughterfus.
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Give me one reason this SHOULDN'T happen
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>>109097736
>$83 per month
>Here's your UBI bro
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>>109104605
Indict and tax the rich. For every dollar missing from the economic terrorism retribution fund, one lashing. They're trillionaires. They can afford the money. They can't afford the lashings.
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Bernie Sanders once again proves to be an absolute retard, who hires retarded kids to write policy for him. I'm sure someone prepubescent thought 'wow $1K is a lot of money!' and now one was mart enough to catch the mistake. Hell, they probably used AI to draft thsi retarded thing.

To be fair, the intent isn't to help the disemployed, or establish a backdoor UBI, the intent is to solely punish AI because he's a bitter loser. He has to keep pivoting to every new retarded things to hide they fact that he's wealthier than 99.9% of the people who support him and has never done anything of consequence to make anyone's life better in any way.
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>>109105126
China wins
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>>109097787
>andrew yang
shame he dropped out and immediately jewed out, I actually would've voted for him
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>>109097969
someone says this unironically
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>>109097787
>"Yang Gang" thinking they invented UBI
Europenises have had "UBI" for way longer than Andrew Yang was a thing. COPE and SEETHE.

>>109097736
>$1,000 annual payout
>It's not monthly
WOW, THANK YOU FOR THE ONE (1) MONTH ELECTRIC BILL PAYMENT, SENATOR SANDERS!

Old man needs to retire, so further to the left of him candidates can come in and [redacted by 4chun moderators and glowies] Sam Altman and crew already.
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>>109097969
You're the commie jew who wants to stand in the way of business. Fuck you kike
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>>109097736
>Ubi
>$83/month
Reminder that just the amount of money investors lost in AI this year could have paid every single American $3000/month so far.
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>>109102126
>You stop inflation by stopping people from spending.
I wish I could stop spending. But I can't.
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>>109100473
Actually we need to know. Insider info always welcome.
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>>109105399
yeah I bet you would
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>>109097736
the idea of ubi and their variants have been around for dozens of thousands of years, none of the cultures and countries that had them survived to this day.
just like women led societies, they have been naturally selected out of the picture and trying to bring them back will only lead to widespread pain and suffering as millions of people will be forced to learn once again the hard way why some things are flawed from their basic principles.
this is not about le communism, le capitalism or other political or ideological delirium, the numbers have been run for millennia (long before technology could allow any kind of super national cabal to form and function to artificially put a stop to it in case it worked) and they always gave the same response, 'no'.
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>>109102126
why should inflation be stopped to begin with? for the average npc it doesnt matter if his wage is 100 or 100000000 as long his way of life doesnt noticeably change. inflation only hurts moneylenders and that's a sacrifice i'm willing to make
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>>109106362
>Capitalist chimping noises
It's working in Ireland and numerous other European countries. COPE.
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>>109106447
>it works if other countries pour money into the ones that do it
wow you completely destroyed my argument there
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>>109104112
If you ate only potatoes you'd die, and no the are more expensive than that in Switzerland.
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>>109106937
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>>109105399

I’m sure you would’ve. He woulda lost too
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>>109097736
$1000 annually is nothing
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>>109097736
Is the US not running a large deficit at the moment?
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>>109098362

Yep. This is why fast food is more expensive than ever
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>>109106956
I want to watch the computer chronicles and learn how to set up an IBM computer pre-internet or at least play some LucasArts point and click adventure games.
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>>109107297
Eightball says Outlook uncertain.
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A public AI would be terrible because the big AI firms would snap up all the best devs and put them in non competition contracts and just destroy it.
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>>109107311

Nineball says Outlook is a Mail client.
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>>109097787
Richard Nixon considered it all the way back in the 1969.
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He hasn't ever written an entire bill by himself, not ever in fifty years plus.

The guy's a slacker. I'm convinced he works for CIA and his job is to just get a list of all the remaining communist stooges.
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Even if you were retarded enough to think that printing money creates wealth, you'd have to be doubly retarded to expect that it would get successfully implemented by an old hippie jew who already sold his candidacy at least once showing no desire to ever actually get in power and putting his money where his mouth is.
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The inverstors are holding your country to ransom and will drive up the cost of borrowing, if you implement UBI. What comes next?
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>>109097736
Very excited for my rent to go up at least $1000.
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>>109100155
>the average person is underpaid
how did you deduce that?

>>109098255
$1000 isn't nearly enough for one month in the balkans
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>>109097787
No Anon, you will be paying the AI companies. The data centers don't pay electrical costs, it is subsidized by the people living in the closest city with higher taxes and monthly utility bills. Then you and your children will have to pay a monthly subscription to use the AI that is mandatory for work and school. Bernie is a jew
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>>109108491
>how did you deduce that?
*Looks at Cost of Living averages around the world, then looks at 80% of the population that is barely making ends meet on their pay, then looks back at you*

GEE, I DUNNO ANON...
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>>109098362
Covid stimies didn't drive the prices up. The Fed printed an extra 4 trillion dollars in 2020 alone. Your money lost 50% of its value since Covid just from the money printer
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>>109097736
what a pathetic fag
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>>109097736
>give everyone a free $1000
>total price of essential products suddenly increases by a $1000
This is just another way to transfer public money to private corporations
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americans should have secured the bag with Yang
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>>109097736
>do everything he can to rile up his base
>to stop companies from building factories
>to stop companies from using electricity
>to stop companies from building electricity
>to stop companies from using local water
>to demonize all the companies/people who work in the industry
>now after everything is built and done, he wants to steal the company
kek
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>AI companies on the verge of facing financial challenges that threaten their very existence
>Scam Altman and Dario desperately convincing orange turd to bail them out with taxpayers gbux
>even after this happens, 1-2 years of runway max before ROI reality clamps down like a gators jaws
>out of touch communist talking about taxing these failing companies for UBI

late roman era type shit
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>>109108517
>i cannot afford stuff that someone arbitrarily declared i should have

yeah that's not how it works
Neofeudalists could and probably will just eventually stick you in a pod and have you work 12 hour shifts to tend to their server farms and nobody would care.
You are completely irrelevant. All they have to do is to cut logistics that bring food to the local shart mart in your shithole and you'd be dead within a month.
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>>109097836
There will be LESS progress in the next 500 years than the last 100
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>>109097736
Does this old man know that AI companies don't actually make any real money?
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>Give everyone $1000
>Everything is now also $1000 more expensive
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>>109104470
to be fair, there weren't that many millionaires before the boomers decided that owning a house (which they each bought with the price of a sandwich and a coke) should be an appreciating asset. now every boomer is a millionaire. for some reason, sitting on your fat ass and letting your house fall apart and become mold infested shithole warrants a better ROI as investing in industry or new technologies
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Bernard Sanders is an american hero who got robbed by Hillary Clinton during the 2016 primary election. As an European, i rooted for him.
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>>109110317
UBI isn't actually money, it's credits to be spent on specific essentials. nothing is actually entering circulation

what this means is based snailcat poorfags get to enjoy their (theoretical) purchasing power never eroding, while AI zog slaves get their monopoly money forever debased by central banks. snailcats won by escaping capitalism.
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>>109108518
But covid stimulus also kept impacting inflation a lot
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nah, those demons will self-immolate before they hand over Mammon's precious tokens to the cattle.
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>>109102126
>covidbux
>literally just refunding some of the taxes you pay into the system to keep the economy going
>every rightoid is fuming and foaming at the mouth over it to this very day that people got some money back while being stupid enough to think that was the reason prices went up, and not supply chain restrictions and corporate greed
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>>109109318
>arbitrarily
Anon, pretending for a second you aren't just a brainwashed cunt or a whiny shitposter, that which is considered to be basic human rights (food, water, shelter) is barely affordable at most income levels. You're actually genuinely denied shelter at most income levels, being forced to rent shelter from someone else. Even if you can afford to buy land and a house, it's still not actually yours, because the government can steal it from you in seconds if you're slightly behind in taxes, or they decide they need your property for a highway, datacenter, or private airfield.
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>>109111661
>You're actually genuinely denied shelter at most income levels, being forced to rent shelter from someone else.
that is not what "genuinely denied shelter" means
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Annual?
Annual. Let me get that straight
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>>109111808
>shelter is a right
>but you're not legally allowed to have it unless you pay for it
>but this isn't denial of shelter because reasons :^) now pay me a monthly subscription to borrow a shitty apartment



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