So I'm just about done with my first client/server app written entirely with the help of Codex. Angular frontend, C#/.NET backend REST API, it's a typical SaaS style app.I've worked at 3 different SaaS companies prior to this (10+ year senior engineer) so I have a good amount of reference material regarding the quality of this vs what I've worked on/used.It feels like my role has transitioned to some kind of hybrid architect/PO/QA position, with only light engineering interruptions. It's honestly kind of fun and now I get why those fags like their jobs more than we do.>think of basic requirements and references/patterns/templates you would like AI to follow, prompt it with those>let it do work and give you something>test and feel it out user side, review code, suggest improvements, rinse and repeat>you get something top quality at 10x the development speedI'm basically folding on trying to pretend that 90% of software dev isn't solved because it is. What we have to do now is leverage what we know about the internals, and our own human taste, to iterate with it and help it arrive at the best conclusion.Frankly, this is the best piece of software I've ever used or worked on in my career and it took me like ~1 month of thought, and ~1 month of heavy coding to put together. Every single piece of shitware SaaS out there is toast if someone really wants to invade that sector with a good execution plan.
Doesn't even get into some of the other things either. I no longer have to deal with annoying ass autist faggot coworker devs. Your agent really is like the perfect little partner, only somewhat disagreeable, fills in a lot of gaps for you, even kind of funny sometimes. I'm down for the AI psychosis sessions.
>>109098566>>>/g/vcg/
>>109098566>What we have to do now is leverage what we know about the internals, and our own human taste, to iterate with it and help it arrive at the best conclusion.agreed. I don't mind this stuff at all, and personally, I think there is always going to need to be humans in the driver's seat.Even if it "figures out" everything we have today, we'll just use it to make even more complex stuff, and there will be an even greater need for people to understand what's going on to at least know what to test for and what to evaluate. That's what has always happened in the past when some new thing was going to make programmers obsolete.I can't imagine being someone who started "vibe coding" with zero knowledge about programming just constantly crossing their fingers.
>>you get something top quality at 10x the development speedyeah i doubt this claim, unless you spend a lot of time reviewing and fixing its output, but if you do it's not 10x productivity gains.this reads like a shillpost btw
>>109098566Vibe codes removes coding monopoly from INTPs and gives a total monopoly to INTJs & ENTJs mbti types, INTPs were the bottleneck, they still think this is a meme because they can't see the big picture without context loss just the area they are microfocus now.This is why /g/ called bitcoin a botnet for years etc the INTPs dominated /g/ and coding for decades, if they want to survive they will move to security and things they won't let AI touch due to security.Otherwise they are fucked op they can't against INTJs or ENTJs big picture game theoretical thinking, only reason they are not out of a job yet is because there really are not that much INTJs & ENTJs in the ecosystem of coding due to gatekeeping of previous eras.> Every single piece of shitware SaaS out there is toast if someone really wants to invade that sector with a good execution plan.Not much people can do a good execution plan those two mbti types i mentioned are among the smallest and even less will get into coding, and boomers and zoomers of that type are out first due to ignorance and age second due to phoneposting era gatekeeping.Most SaaS will be fine but /g/ INTPs finest hour is long gone it was over with opus 4.5.
