So, whatever happened to it? Feels like not that long it was shilled every other week on every website as the DE of the future. Now it's just radio silence.Did they go bankrupt?
>>109100308they released 1.0 too early and nobody was impressed
They rushed it out because everyone was getting pissed at them ignoring PoopOS in favor of working on their DE, and now they're ignoring Pop again because they're too busy fixing all the bugs and missing features in Cosmic.
>>109100368>in favor of working on their DElmao that's all they need to do. Ubuntu basically does the rest of the job for them
They need to drop their useless distro and just work on COSMIC.
>>109100391Apparently it doesn't. >>109100308Cosmic is still being developed and actually getting better every other week. Devs are just typical retarded when it comes to time frames, promises or basically communication at all. If you wanna try it, dont bother with poop, fedora and nix have (un)ironically better support. That said it's still a neat gnome with the usual extensions preinstalled.
What even is the point of the ubuntu derivative ver 263738 that is pop_os? Who uses it besides clueless windows user who just switched and got tricked by youtubers
>>109100467>Who uses itFreetards who bought overpriced S76 garbage.
>>109100467Ironically enough it started as an adjusted version for office workers, it then pivoted into "gaming" to reach more word of mouth. Eventually pic rel lost his mind and>you are here now
>>109100467Bundled hardware drivers
>>109100467What is the point of any distro beyond its package management system and corporate support model? The install experience. When I assembled my intel cpu, nvidia gpu machine I had zero problems installing pop_os. Didn't have to install any drivers or fiddle with any configuration just to have a basic running system.
>>109100308>Gnome is finally dead, cosmic won>KDE finally has some competition>...>Ok turns out it's shit, made by a corpo with the most annoying rustfag devsBlame that pedo brodie for its death. He hyped it so fucking much as the next gen desktop that would kill gnome, kde, xfce, cinnamon. He did daily streams and big hunting on every release. He got a partnership with system76 and its devs on his podcast. And now he realized that it would be yet another budgie nothingburger and dropped it for niri. https://brodie-robertson.pages.dev/
>>109101016>click link>oh that face rings a bell. What was he on again>ah yes totally ironic loliconAlmost forgot about him, like ebussy.
>>109100308the redditor they hired is so annoying and present everywhere, anytime COSMIC is even mentioned in passing, that it killed any interest I had in it. it's not gonna be good for at least another couple of years but their PR has been a fucking mess since they decided to call it "stable" that I barely care to follow its progress anymore
>>109100349>>109100308Yeah it's rust only and is riddled with memory leaksAlso it eats up mor ram than gnome
>>109101078Rust is supposed to prevent memory leaks and big doubt on using more ram than Gnome considering Gnome relies on JS of all things to do things like effects, extensions and styling.
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>>109101163That's what you get from throwing around 'unsafe'.
>>109101163>>109101211neither the "leak" or two (which i expect have been long fixed, but didn't bother to check) were memory management issues, nor is `unsafe{}` (directly) related to leaking in any case.you can have semantic "leaks" in any language, including all GC-centric ones. but they are not actually "leaks". only a nocoder would call them that, which is fine if you're an end user presented with what looks like a leak. but if that's what you are, you have no business talking about implementation choices, general or detailed.
>>109101283>uhm aktually its not a memory leak, unless you are a non coderretard its a DE for end users of consumer hardware. If your shit that you are advertising as the best of the best because its written in the epic memory safe language and doesnt have decades of tech debt uses fucking more memory than those that are written in JS then you are a failure.End users dont care if its for the ultra clever 5-headed reasons that your shitty DE uses 5gb of memory
>>109101283>looks like a hardware leak>behaves like a hardware leak>people on the cosmic github call it a hardware leakWhat are you even trying to argue here? Even if it's not akshually a hardware leak it imposes the same issue for the end user.
>>109101171I want this fag to fight ebussy at a parking lot. They're both equally autistic dipshits.
>>109101329>>people on the cosmic github call it a hardware leaklink?
>>109101335ebussy at least doesnt name search on reddit, this faggot is on reddit 24/7I posted once that cosmic was buggy for me as a reply to a comment on r/linux and this retard popped out of nowhere telling me that im wrong
>>109100563What office worker is using Linux? They should've been serious from the get-go.>>109100349I think it has potential, but right now it's not a "daily driver." (Which reminds me I need to uninstall it on Arch but given it took over Firefox on KDE I'm worried it's going to break shit that I have to pull teeth to fix)But like Budgie (which is another DE that I think is decent of the "main two" [ignoring LXDE/XFCE, obviously]) it's got little/no updates since the initial major point release.
>>109100308>>109100349The issue was that Cosmic was shilled to be oh so superior to the filthy and disgusting Gnome, but in practice was just rewrite of Gnome with most of it's issues still there.Cosmic is very pointless.
Couldn't get close to KDE, now forgotten. It was entirely predictable. Only reason it got made is because System76 wanted to do something in Rust
>>109102704it is superior to filthy disgusting Gnome
>>109102948The problem is that superior isn't enough.The very concept of Gnome is bad, that tablet UI bullshit is bad. So when you take something that is fundamentally bad and make it much better, on top of the same shitty foundation, it is still bad.Nobody uses Gnome out of merit. If someone has the choice, he chooses something much different like KDE, LXQt, XFCE (questionable), etc.COSMICs target group is people who like Gnomes tablet UI but don't want to deal with ebussy et al. And that group doesn't exist, because nobody likes Gnome. Gnome is only used by corpo wageslaves and they simply don't have any other choice. But they made it in Rust, so they may be able to convince government adjacent corpos to use it.
>>109102984Still the most popular DE. Even here on g, it was continuously #2 in desktop threads.
>>109101171I'll switch to COSMIC as soon as they fire him.
>>109102704>rewrite of Gnome with most of it's issues still there.I clocked 100kmph while running today.
>>109102984>government adjacent corposmay i ask your /g/eet lowness: what is "gupperment adjacent corpos"?
>>109103245In reality it's just RHEL shops' customers.
>>109102984sounds like projection
>>109102984>Nobody uses Gnome out of merit>>109102984>Gnome is only used by corpo wageslaves and they simply don't have any other choice.People here are so delusional holy shit
>>109102984>Nobody uses XYZKde users always try to kope that everyone would use their kitchen sink bloated mess if they have a choice. I want something that works, not a toy and KDE definitely doesn't workConsidering switching to mac so I don't deal with you retards
>>109101060I like COSMIC, but I hate that dude so much I stopped using it.
Are we referring to this guy >>109101016 or this guy >>109101171 when talking about *the* redditor?
>>109104041The latter.
>>109104041>*the* redditor
>>109102518What is an "office worker"?
>>109101163>Rust is supposed to prevent memory leaksno, memory safety != memory leak>>109101283>but they are not actually "leaks"cope harder rust troony, unreferenced alocated memory is a leak
>>109103179thats alright, DEs are deprecated by Wayland shells (noctalia, DMS) anyway
>>109101163>relies on JS of all things to do things like effects, extensions and styling.Do you retard think all the shells that use JS (gnome, cinnamon, plasma, lxqt (QML is JS)), ship a fucking browser? It's more than directly using C/C++/Rust but it's negligible. They use bindings to call the C/C++ libraries, they don't fucking render pixels with fucking js
>>109104000Nobody even uses Linux out of merit.
>>109100308I daily drive it with no issues. It's cool to see how it improves each month. I like their new system monitor.>>109100467I use it. Had zero issues with it.>but whyIt ships with a near latest kernel. Same with the Nvidia driver. They also pack some packages themselves. It uses in-house DE, which gets updated in a rolling manner. It doesn't have Snaps nor forces it. It has a recovery partition, if there's an emergency.
>>109104409>unreferencedIf it was actually "unreferenced", the release part of RAII would have taken care of it, dumbo. This is exactly why those cases fall under semantic "leaks".(This is assuming the bug people talk about is the same one I vaguely remember. >>109101329 claims otherwise, but didn't provide a link.)
just waiting for them to fix AMDGPU glitches and Night Light and i'm switching overalready got it on my backup NUCs which use Intel, it's actually beautiful, like a next-gen Android Material UI or something. uses less ram than KDE too.
>>109103245RHEL, Oracle and their customers.Pro tip: All the three letter agencies and big tech are their customers.>>109103179>Still the most popular DE......for corpotards to torture their wageslaves with
>>109100308hardware reseller thought it was the new apple or something, lel.
>>109100467I use it. Former ubuntu user who doesn't appreciate canonical's direction. I also enjoy the gnome-like cosmic DE.I also don't tweak anything about it. Just install and go. My computer isn't my project, it is a wrapper for my projects. But, I've come to enjoy it enough that I do poke around on their github. Who knows, might even contribute one day
>>109104483Node also calls C bindings under the hood to make it portable. It doesn't make it efficient.
>>109105002very interesting.can you list non-gupperment adjacent corpos before you go to sleep?
>>109105783>can you list non-gupperment adjacent corpos before you go to sleep?Samsung, Sony and similar corpos who are from outside the USA.Corpos inside the USA typically have tons of government deals or three letter agency connections, because without them, they wouldn't be allowed to grow big in the first place.
>>109101163Rust trannies dont consider memory leaks memory safety issues, so its perfectly valid to leak memory in rust
>>109104161Someone that is using Microsoft Office products, so not (YOU).
>>109105899so all yank corpos are gupperment adjacent. and following from there, yanklandia as a whole is all effectively gupperment anyway. right?hopefully i'm catching you before your sleep.(holding laughs about the examples to not distract /g/eets)
>>109104502>unreferencedyou know exactly what I mean nigger dont be disingenuous. A references B, B references A, nothing references A and B>semantic "leaks"keep coping, a leak is a leak
>>109106800>/g/eety levels of blind confidence>thinks semantic leaks are all/the same as cyclic holdup like a gopher tardlmao
>>109104004>Considering switching to mac so I don't deal with you retardshonestly wonder sometimes if that would ever make sense, maybe i just need to find something i like though
>>109106026>tautological definitionSo you aren't a serious poster or person
>>109104004>Considering switching to mac so I don't deal with you retardsBye bye, ge lost. Fuck odd. Go away.Get a toddler device with a phone SoC that is merely capable of running a browser or text editor.Nobody here has to appeal to you. You are not valuable.
uh oh melty
>>109100308Turns out having 41% of your developers kill themselves on a regular basis isn't a strong strategy for long term results.
>>109107051>implies rust has more types of memory leaks than cyclic holdupthats pretty funny indeed
