gimp is mid imo

>>109101471
the only reason to use GIMP is if you use it since the 2000s and it's all you know. its interface is absolute dogshit and there are better alternatives by the dozen nowadays

Yes, but only if youll actually use it. Its just as if not harder than blender.>>109101471

>>109101471
>Is GIMP actually worth learning
no, there's no addendums necessary it's never worth learning one of the worst programs ever created it's mind boggling it survived for more than a week

>>109101471
Gimp is fine. Like anything, it has a lot of features so it takes quite a bit of effort to learn.

freetards will tell you that it's fine like a lot of their other foss garbage because they don't actually do anything useful with their conputers

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>>109101471
It's alright, does lots of stuff

FOSStards are unreliable narrators when it comes to evaluating their garbage
they don't know what is good

>>109101471
use paintNET + plugins on a windows VM with shared folders, does 90% of what GIMP can do with an interface that isn't complete dogshit

adding the pepper shows how retarded some of the devs were. The reason there were leaves in Paintshop was you literally could get away with that paintbrush because customers were none the wiser, you could do something with it.

You should've been using GIMP even on Windows

>>109101471
I like it but that's me
>>109101495
what more do you actually need?
>>109101575
the issue is you are spoiled, you pirated $2000 software and expect free software to compete on 1/1000th the budget.

>>109101471
No, use Inkscape

>>109101471
For image editing? Definitely not a program for professionals, but personal and non-commercial stuff can work.

For anything else? Inkscape/krita.

Affinity through wine is also an option.

>>109101471
i use photoshop cs6 with wine

>>109101471
gimp is fine. schizotards obsess over it, and sometimes it can be silly but for the most part it gets the job done for most anything

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If you want to style text like its the early 2000s (but with HD text styling options) then GIMP with my plugins might be for you

https://github.com/LinuxBeaver/LinuxBeaver/releases/

https://gimpchat.com/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=22142#p303013

i hate how people associate GIMP with peppers, the generic joke from the late 90s to show how GIMP can use image brushes. that's the point of it. YOu can set your own custom image brush.

when I think of GIMP I think about image processing workflows and writing GEGL syntax that sometimes becomes a plugin, I never think about peppers. peppers are a normie topic that filters out the newbs.

>>109101471
What is there to learn about Gimp? Just use it or don't.

>>109101471
Recently watched a tutorial video someone made and its pretty neat. Half of the things people say about it are either outdated, wrong, or they're pro-designers kvetching because its not photoshop. If you just want to make images/memes etc you'll be fine. Better than using paint-like programs.

>>109103087
>Recently watched a tutorial video someone made and its pretty neat
Could you share it?

>>109101471
use Krita

>>109102950
How is the experience? I heard some people complain about minor bugs here and there, and I also heard that Adobe's software doesn't work that well on wine, and winehq's rating is only silver.

>>109101885
>Outline of GREEN IS MY PEPPER
and that's why gimp is still a hot piece of shit in current year

>>109101471
Am I the only one who hates GIMP 3? I've been a heavy user of GIMP for ages and GIMP 2.10 worked quite well for me.
GIMP 3 feels extremely sluggish, takes ages to load and UI elements were just moved around for seemingly no reason. Seriously can't think of anything that's really improved.

>>109101471
take my advice: if you already know how to use photoshop, don't bother with gimp or other alternatives on linux. adobe photoshop 2021 works flawlessly on linux and for super quick jobs you don't even have to bother opening photoshop, there's always photopea.com

>>109101471
Yes. Gimp and Krita. They are updated, multiplatform and Linux native. If you have adobe AI FOMO, don't worry, once local models get better and more lightweight, we will get a local AI extension. Your skills won't be lost, those apps won't die, they will only improve.

Right now there is a cluster of at least 100 LLMs reverse engineering Photoshop.

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>>109103748
Don't rely on WINE/Proton compatibility tools for anything but games. I guess it's fine for older stuff and stable releases like the 2021 version. But relying on something that could break if the devs fuck up or break it on purpose is horrible. Stick to official Linux releases. GIMP and Paint are perfect for 4chan. If you are a professional, you would probably get a Mac.

>>109103793
you can freeze your wine version just like anything else and it will always work as it did.

>>109103793
what does "perfect for 4chan" fucking mean.

Learn how to use it with inkscape covering its limitations

>>109101471
I would say so. If you need a decently robust general use image editor.
It's pretty much still the only alternative. GIMP might not be pretty or exciting but it's well established and has documentation. You can learn some flavor of the month alternative like PixiEditor or Photopea but once they inevitably become abandoned you will just have to switch to something else. Might as well get used to GIMP now and save yourself a headache later.

>>109103681
its mostly okay, sometimes broken with wine updates although that hasnt happened in a couple years now, sometimes using the laso can make it crash. i did have a version of cc installed but it completely broke at some point so i just went back to my cs6 install ive had it for like 6 years or something

>>109103793
its worth it photoshop was the only thing that used to keep me on windows or dualbooting, then i got it working in wine and have stayed with linux since

>>109103793
please don't attempt to push people away from wine/proton because you have a boner for native linux programs. i will reiterate, PS2021 works flawlessly and you are gimping yourself (ha) if you choose to learn gimp from scratch for no reason. and gimp is worse than ps by a mile.

>>109101471
Sure. I'm not gonna say it's on the level of Photoshop, not even close. But if I'd argue for most casual/average users it's more than fine. Especially now that you can just ask an LLM how to achieve something if you get stuck.

>>109103703
>he can't toggle visibility of his outlines without changing the parent layer

>>109103808
>freeze your wine version
Yeah, I guess that makes sense if you use the 2021 version.
>>109103812
>what does "perfect for 4chan" fucking mean.
That paint and Gimp is perfectly fine for edits and memes on 4chan.
>>109103829
Glad it werks for you
>>109103833
>please don't attempt to push people away from wine/proton because you have a boner for native linux programs.
I won't, nigga I'm just saying that this is not a good long-term solution, Adobe is moving to the cloud anyway, 2021 version forever? Because GIMP and Krita won't even catch up in 10 years to 2021PS levels. Hehe jk. I know that PS is better, I just don't like to rely on WINE/Proton for crucial apps. But as I said, it's fine, this is probably for a home / hobby / neet user, so why a fucking monkrus pozzed Ivan proprietary shit? It's not like his job relies on that, otherwise he would get a MacBook and that Adobe sub

>>109101471
learn krita not gimp

>>109101471
I use krita personally, and inkscape

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>>109101575
I'm not a freetard and I still don't get the hate.
Yeah, the UI could be better but the hate is over the top.
It's completely fine if you're not a professional. Professionals use Photoshop anyway.

>>109101471
i use photopea
other then that pirated photoshop
i used paint.net back on windows but apparently it doesn't work with wine, never bothered trying though
>>109103938
a lot of people still use photoshop cs6 rather then use gimp and that shit is from 2013. doesn't matter how much adobe enshittifies because old versions still exist

>>109103703
What's wrong with that? You can apply it as a non destructive effect on the actual text layer as well but that's more limiting.

>>109101471
It's worth learning at least the basics, it can come in handy for some tasks even if it isn't perfect.

I use GIMP on Windows.

What about photogimp?
https://github.com/Diolinux/PhotoGIMP

>>109103938
tons of non-professionals use photoshop because 1. it just works 2. it does it the best 3. FAR more intuitive than anything else. gimp is literally horrendous, why should i home hobby or neet user put up with gimp just because its foss? foss is dogshit sometimes and if you have the ability to make non-linux proprietary software work properly on linux because its better and makes your life easier then you should jump at the chance. if shit is constantly breaking then it's not stable to begin with.

>>109104607
Guess it might help people who are used to the PS interface if they can't navigate the interface otherwise. Kinda makes me hope there was a way to have interface presets instead of just overwriting everything. IMO it's better to just move the UI elements yourself

Not a single PS shill one can give an actual answer on why they can't just use GIMP so I assume they're probably just LARPing as professionals.

>>109105092

Gimp can't properly save psd files and photoshop won't open xcf files making cooperation more challenging

>>109105092
>everyone is unemployed like me so i can just take unneeded time learning an inferior software and unlearning PS muscle memory because... because it's FOSS!
Get a job

>>109105166
>employed people use old pirated versions of photoshop on wine

>>109105205
>retards give money to Adobe
Where did you think this line of arguing would get you?

>>109103793
>stable releases like the 2021 version
do you really need more than that? I think most can agree that the newer versions of adobe software dont give any new enhancements and just make the experience more computationally demanding. if your a professional and you can already do your whole job on one version you dont need to update

>>109103938
>Adobe is moving to the cloud anyway
no sane human wants to contribute to that, thats why most just pirate adobe software

99% of the anons running PS are only using because "they can". 0.5% are real hobby users with some decent skills and the other 0.5% are actual working people with an adobe subscription.

>>109105421
Why do you care and why does this make you seethe so much? Oh no, people are using programs because they can! They're not using the FOSS program I want them to use just because I personally prefer the FOSS alternative. Cure your autism.

>>109105438
Idk, it just pisses me off. Back then, when I got into editing and managed to get sony vegas for free, I told my friend about it and this bitch ass never used it, but always showed it around. My point is: You retards don't even need that shit. Stick to fucking paint dot net.
>use case?

Gimp covers 99% of usecases for 99% of people.
Adobe suite still has more convenient tools but it's more about saving a few minutes/not having to use multiple apps for multiple edits of the same files than any essential stuff.

Just let AI do the shooping for you

>>109103896
styles has an opacity slider for its outline and a checkbox

>>109106302
no GIMP doesn't and neither does PS, because workflows have changed and AI has modified the workflow so much that GIMP is just meant to play a small role for normies at best.

GIMP team sat and still is sitting on the million and something US dollars in bitcoin for so long, while the image editing industry around it evolved so much that all those promised updates aren't even needed by most people anymore. Non destructive editing and vector layers and even fancy text and special effects like I do are not things of the past, but they are only relevant to industry pros in certain workflows, not normies. Normies just prefer AI prompts and that's where the casual market is.

In a cold sense, much of those donations to GIMP were wasted. Because the people who donated to GIMP team in 2008-2014 expected return that would not take decades. They expected non-destructive editing to release in a world without generative AI, when GIMP 3.0 debuted in March 2025, Gen AI was already well established and realistic, and GIMP 3 pretty much only broke news in FOSS and niche computing circles. the larger tech world gave it some news but mostly crickets- nothing major. and it wasn't till 3.0.2 in April 2025 that GIMP 3 became truly stable.

So in a way GIMP will always be here and it is good software but it isn't what most people need. Most people just need an AI prompt and Sam Altman's chat bot, and I stand by my claim that if you donated to GIMP 3 in 2014 expecting non-destructive editing right around the corner only to find out that it would take until 2025 only to compete against gen AI technology lightyears ahead then you were let down.

>>109106302
>Gimp covers 99% of usecases for 99% of people.
If this were true, there would be a circle tool
>just do ellipse select and path trace
A clunky hack at best, nobody who's picking up the program would think to do that and this workaround lacks the common options that every other paint program has been able to do for decades.
>just install a plugin
Shouldn't be necessary for such a fundamental operation, and again a new user may not ever realize it has plugin support let alone seek one out for it.
>it doesn't fit in with the program's purpose, it isn't really necessary
Congrats, you aren't one of the 99% of people. You must feel very special.
The fact that this isn't built in when it's so easy to implement and would quell literally decades of jokes is willfully stupid. Dunno if it's just stubbornness on the devs' part but it actively harms the program. I've been a regular user of GIMP for 15 years and I'm baffled this still hasn't been addressed.

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Lighting is really annoying

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It's perfectly cromulent for making memes.

>>109103047
I miss that ugly aesthetic. Everything is so flat and boring now.

>>109105092
i'm not a professional but photoshop just works so why should i use something that has more of a learning curve just because it's FOSS? FOSS is nice and I will prefer it when it's equal or very close to the proprietary equivalent and what I've found is that while GIMP may be close in functionality, it is not close in ease of use

>>109103047
Dayum thats actually pretty cool. I should try gimp again, last time I did I understood nothing

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>>109103643
Share the video, anon!

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I don't know why people complain about gimp not being able to make circles. It's fairly easy.

>>109103643
>>109109025
It's nothing special, just the basics on a fairly popular video. I just wanted to learn how to do basic stuff since I was tired of using Photopea in a browser. The guy is a bit odd but I learned about a few neat features and that the classic 'tried to make a circle' copypasta is wrong, at least for current year.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LX-S1CX1HUI

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>>109111001
Nice, thanks anon :)

>>109101471
I used GIMP on Windows too

>>109109919
I can smell that room and I want to stay in there.

>>109111001
that's a pretty good video anon, thanks for sharing.

>>109101471
use krita

>>109101471
FUCK no.
Krita is at least significantly more usable than GIMP

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>>109101471
>green is my pepper

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>>109114771
based yuno poster