Another 711 got caught with a card skimmer. You’d think this stuff would have been patched by nowhttps://x.com/Basedgoymemes/status/2068797967109357781
Avoid 711
this board sucks jeet dick
only use tap to pay (with physical cards or nfc), the clerk is in on it always so they'll say "no you have to swipe". that's your cue to say "nvm" leave the stuff on the counter and then walk out
>>109107258how to stop jeets from scamming you: 1) DONT GO TO THEIR STORES OR ANY STORE THAT HIRES THEM2) DONT FORGET STEP 1
>>109107258That's a Paki.
If that's his store, this is really pointless and stupid.
>>109107355SAAAAAR
>>109107345Basically this. Or insert and pay using the chip. Never swipe.>You’d think this stuff would have been patched by nowThe patch is no more magnetic strip.
do not redeem
>>109107387Kek
>>109107258I've caught two jeets with one of these, both have been deported
>>109107556Based
I've mostly moved back to cash though most places won't accept $50s anymore so I have to be sure to get $20s.
>>109107320Or just use cash.You DO have paper money, right?
>>109107355>implying they are different
>>109107725kek
Pay in cash, it's that simple.
attention all retards ITTUS federal law states that the consumer (that's you retard) can not be held liable for unauthorized charges on a credit cardthis is a non issue, it literally does not mattertake two minutes to read your statement before you pay your balance. if there are charges you don't recognize, tell your bank and they will take them all off and send you a new card. its literally that easy
>>109107906doesnt always work
>>109107913>doesnt always workit's not a fucking "lifehack" retard, it's federal law. USC 1643
>>109107906You know when I was 18 this was the justification I used to do credit card fraud. Then I watched a news report about how some woman had to deal with a bunch of bullshit from her bank after she found fraudulent charges on her statement. I felt like a dick and stopped doing that kind of activity. The law is supposed to protect consumers but corporations will do everything they can to make it difficult for that to actually happen. What are you going to do to stop them, sue them? If disputing charges is already hard imagine what that's going to be like.That's not to say it's always going to be hard to do chargebacks. You just don't want to be relying on that. Putting your financial fate in the hands of people who may not give a fuck about you is a bad idea. You might also want to save that trump card for when you need it. Like my friend did when a pizza delivery was 3 hours late and he refused it but they charged him anyway.
>>109107943kys parasite
>>109107943>Then I watched a news report about how some woman had to deal with a bunch of bullshit from her bank after she found fraudulent charges on her statement.i don't mean to suggest that you were wrong to stop committing fraud, but with stories like these you have to remember that most people are idiots. this is probably a woman who did not know ANYTHING about her bank account, what it means to have a line of credit, what her responsibilities were as a cardholder, what the law was, how to review her statement, or what to do when she discovers unauthorized charges.i bet she probably reported it to the bank like 4 months after the unauthorized charges began, making it all but impossible for anyone to determine whether she is telling the truth or committing fraud herself.
>>109107258tap.^^^^you can use like the watch or phone tap thing.just don't go to walmart, since they don't have tap.
>>109107988As if you've never done anything bad in your life lmao
>>109107387Only an Indian would make this. Why do you guys always love to out yourselves with your self deprecating racism? Do you think it makes you look white? White people don’t think about you.
>>109108000Can’t those be hacked still?
>>109108000That's the least of the reasons you shouldn't be going to walmart. You shouldn't go there because you have dignity and self respect. You should not put their produce or Great Value slop into your body.
>>109108010No moshe, I never got the idea to commit theft
>>109108094Go ahead and cast the first stone then. Nobody is looking.
>>109108094kek
>>109107906I am aware and have had to do this before. My bank didn't even dispute it, but it's still a pain in the ass.
>>109108192try a better bank. my credit union makes it extremely easy.
>>109107258>card skimmerNah>take hobo's name/ssn/id>use it to start a legitimate business front>buy legitimate credit card reader from several companies and models>go to random shops were the people use wireless card readers and when they hands it to you to type the password, use sleight of hand to return the exact same model, but tied to your (the hobo's) account>businesses use your card reader for weeks, giving you money you cash and launder before they even notice the blow>once they do, the police goes after the hobo dead end>get off scott freeGet on my level, fuckers.
>>109108216>use sleight of hand to return the exact same model, but tied to your (the hobo's) accountkek
>>109108221I jest, but it actually happened in my town. Whoever it was, got away with tens of thousands.
>>109108205A better bank won't make time run faster or the postal service stop slurping massive amounts of semen.
I really wish there was an open sores solution for NFC tap to pay
>>109107943>Then I watched a news report about how some woman had to deal with a bunch of bullshit from her bank after she found fraudulent charges on her statementwas probably her debit card or bank creds that got compromised as opposed to a proper credit card. disputing a credit card charge is the easiest thing in the world and your bank would only ever grief you if it kept happening and it looked like it was you defrauding them. i've even disputed charges with legitimate businesses who were dragging their feet on shipping and not communicating with me about it. lo and behold my refund is issued immediately. credit card companies look after you incredibly well as customers in this sense because they need you to feel safe using their product so you can run up debt on their extortionate rates. as long as you don't carry a balance on it having a credit card is an extremely valuable tool in combating jeets and shitty businesses.
>>109107906Or you can just pay in cash... why do you need to use a credit card as the quick-stop/gas station? Do you REALLY need to let your banking institution know you're filling up?
>>109108239If they got away with it, the companies are stupid for not having a photo to the account to properly track who the fuck it is.
>>109108265They had him on security cameras, but police here is shitty too. Just skip town and no one cares to look for you over there. Some scammers run the same playbooks on different towns until they retire and no one cares.
>>109108244time is not a factor. you just don't pay for the unauthorized charges. and idk what the usps has to do with anything
>>109108280You don't have to pay but you're still left with a cancelled card until the new one arrives in the mail, what's so hard to understand?
>>109108250Yes for the points
>>109107906Also go into your banking app and set it to send you a text every single time any transaction goes through your card
>>109107258I'm sort of amazed by how bad his acting skills are. If he simply went >"Yo what the fuck are you doing!?" as they were ripping it open, followed by >"Oh shit, what is that?" I would have given him the benefit of the doubt. Dude put on a solid poker face when the appropriate human reaction would have been surprise lmao. >>109108000>just don't go to walmart, since they don't have tap.Oh, is that a Walmart thing in general? I just thought it was the one near me specifically. Weird. >>109108216>>109108239holy based
>>109108000>just don't go to walmart, since they don't have tap.I went to a walmart just a few weeks ago, they had tap, but this is also in a first world country.ca
My bank card doesn't even have a mag strip, just tap and pin and chip
>>109108470Canada aka canindia is not first world Kek
>>109107258didnt get enough replies to your post of this on /pol/ ? kys faggot
I just tap to pay with my phone now, sorry jeetbros.
>>109107359> imagine caring this much about someone else's storeyou're the one who clicked the thread, anon
>>109107943not bank with Wells Fargo.
>>109108307you don't have more than one payment method other than cash? you are literally asking for it. except you couldn't possibly be asked to take accountability for that just like a woman dressing provocatively, getting black-out drunk, and not watching her drink at any given point in time.
>>109108245open source nfc payments exist, they just don't have the bank partnerships to make them work.
>>109108657why not
>>109108427this
>>109107645>most places won't accept $50s anymoreIn any first world country, it's a crime for a business to not accept cash. Report them or move somewhere better.
>>109108080>Can’t those be hacked still?Anything can be hacked. But you'd need some crazy NSA-tier mitm attack to spoof everything necessary to do so with something like Apple Pay.
>>109109054its not a crime to not accept cash lots of places stopped after covid
>>109109085Cash is legal tender. Covid was a hoax and only the biggest retards still care about it. Cash is legal tender and not accepting it is a crime, in any country worth living in.
>>109108598
>>109107345>>109107401Cash, boom Indian owned.
>>109108110When I was very young my dad taught me stealing was something niggers do.
>>109107556If real, what was the process? You called police and tell them about it?
>>109109104>Cash is legal tender and not accepting it is a crimeYou have to accept the currency of your country. It doesn't have to be cash anywhere that I'm aware of. Unless it's a third world shithole using foreign currency because their own is a hyperinflated joke.
>>109109172it's only required as legal tender for DEBTSeg. if you ate out and the bill comes and they don't wanna take your cash then that would be debt, no debt has been incurred when a store refuses to accept cash for transactions.
>>109108431>I just thought it was the one near me specifically.They have tap but only their through their own app, I think it just way to avoid pay credit card fees, and also making money off selling data of app users.
>>109108221Those shop must have been in on it? Did the business owners not realize they weren't getting their money from the card readers into their bank account?
>>109107258>>109107345Do mutts still swipe? It was phased out years ago in Europe, and long before then we moved to chip and pin.
>>109109207prepaid debit gift cards are swipe-only, everyone else is chip or tap to paywalmart, the biggest retailer in the US refuses to enable tap to pay on their registers because they would lose out on being able to trace your cardholder name and card number to your entire purchase history and also your walmart.com account if you've ever used the same card number there, when you tap it just says "VISA CARDHOLDER" as a name.
>>109107320>https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-06-18/7-eleven-forces-franchisees-to-sell-but-blocks-sale/106799126And yes they will just staff their own jeets but it's still pretty funny. And yes 711 in Australia rejoined the international arm hence the jeet ownership removal in the first place.
>>109107906>this is a non issueYou aren't liable sure but>puts a freeze on your card no matter what the fraudulent charge was>have to wait for a new cardBit of a pain.
>>109109312nearly everything has virtual cards now that you can just add directly to your phone's wallet app and use while you wait for a physical one
>>109108000i don't think I've been to a Walmart that doesn't have tapnot sure what third world shit hole you live in
>>109109343>nearly everythingHaha nope. Went through this with one provider a few months back.The virtual card I had was killed and I couldn't create a new one until I had a new physical card.
>>109109300Jeeted…
>>109109207Yes
Nu /g/ is fucking lost man. Why any of you is here and not using CASH ONLY is beyond me.
>>109108647Not the sharpest pencil in the case, eh, anon?
>>109109144Why is he dancing without his headphones on?
>>109109558that is not for skimmers you doofus
>>109109155Your daddy also let you grow up to be a /pol/ posting permavirgin so I wouldn't give him a whole lot of credit.
>>109109537For reward points
>>109107556what is that thing supposed to do?
>>109110931Nothing
>>109109378sucks to suckevery service i've used doesn't work this waythe virtual card itself is a card with a different number, simply tied to the bank account
>>109110931Supposedly it detects the number of magstripe read heads in a card reader. Seems kind of pointless to me when you could just remove the magstripe from your card instead and not have to deal with screeching jeets shouting about how you're hacking their PoS machines.
>>109109358>i don't think I've been to a Walmart that doesn't have tapOh. you went in one?
>>109110157Mogging
>>109108080The exact correct answer is:1. Get a Chase card. Their ai is the best the best2. Use phone or watch "tap". It's much more secure, because it passes a surrogate number, so you get surrogate# + "cryptogram"And also lobby Congress to make surrogate#+"cryptogram" mandatory everywhere, ESPECIALLY ONLINE (where right now it's just not used, as you know).>>109108431>>109109358>>109108470Looks like Walmart is upgrading the terminalsat the shitholes first (where the Roma live).>>109109059false
>>109107258>BasedgoymemesGod I hate grifters
>>109111049>screeching jeets shouting about how you're hacking their PoS machines.ok now I want one lmao like it doesn't even need to work
>>109109104You’re retarded.
>>109109203its almost always an employee
>>109107258>Is it possible to stop card skimmers?Don't live in nigger countryand we use pic related
>>109111354dont even need a phone chip and pin card payments have been standard for like 30 years everywhere except america. you cant even swipe cards in most of europe
>>109111364>>109111354Sorry, we can't afford that, israel found another apartment in Lebanon.
Your cards still have magstripes? I mean I guess it makes sense what with still using paper cheques and all.
>>109111354That seems like a downright African way of paying for something, sir.
>>109111354This is gay. just pay with cash.
>>109107258Yes, but you need to redesign the whole credit card system for a low-trust society, it was all initially designed for a high-trust one, which is why things like this are possible.
>>109108470>Walmart finally getting NFC card paymentsJesus Christ, it only took them a decade.
>>109111454Kek
>>109107258It's called a knoife. Apply to magnet strip, no more skimming.
>>109111354Lmao
>>109109207my bank rolled out RFID cards last year, most terminals I see are still magnetic strip though
You retards live in the 19060s
>>109112120not anymore, when they rolled out RFID cards they also removed the embossed lettering and stopped processing faxed-in carbon copy transactions
>>109112120
>>109111364>you cant even swipe cards in most of europeHow is this nigger this retarded?You obviously just tap to pay with the card or insert it to read the chip, why would you even need to swipe a card anymore?
>>109107258Why even bother? Your card has been skimmed by a million websites already anyway.
>>109112083Where outside Wal-mart (which did self-check RIGHT before NFC was happening, hence their long delayed upgrade) is NFC not a thing?
>>109107258Hop off my brown dick cuh
>>109107258Avoid inserting and swiping. Use contact/mobile pay.
>>109112276wegmans is the only place where I HAVE seen an NFC terminal
>>109107258Don't shop in Indian/Pakistani/Bangladeshi owned stores.Ever, for any reason.
>>109107258Use GooglePay.
>>109113026cope
>>109107258Move to a white country
>>109113265White countries are against international norms and a past that never existed anyway, in fact, every one used to be black in the UK, just look at cheddarman - a black Britain from prehistory.
>>109113265this is in a white country
>>109111441t. nigger
>>109112923The fuck, man. Starbucks, Burger King, et. al. have NFC. They should be up there in the North East.
>>109107258Stop using magnetic strips in AD 2026.Chips cannot be skimmed because they use asymmetric encryption and never reveal their private key.
Apple Pay and cash.
>>109107359It's often just an employee unrelated to the franchise owner. I've been scammed by White people at gas stations too by being double charged when they fuck with the pump and it tells you to go inside.
>>109111354>SAAR scan the QR code Saaar! is no virus this honest business no virus in QR codes Saar.
>>109107320Just avoid any company run by jeets.
>>109107347What to do when your government is completely overrun by them and pays half the wages of a jeet worker?
>>109111460It was purposeful.Walmart has contactless on newer terminals, they just refuse to enable it to push Walmart pay.
>>109107345>>109108000>>109109207>bank gives me chipped card>chip never works>have to swipe after it fails 3 times at the terminal>nearly everywhere does this>"must be my card then">get a new one for a $5 fee>chip still wont workIf they take away the mag strip i'm fucked
>>109108010No actually. It's pretty normal for white people to not scam or commit crimes.
>>109114100You seem hell bent on making this a racial thing. I get it. You're a complete nerd who has never seen the real world. You don't know about what your local biker gang gets up to. Any time you hear about your fellow white man getting up to some mischief or being anything less than a Ned Flanders stereotype you shriek and start spamming 4chan threads with NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER. But whatever. I feel bad about doing crimes to a normal person. If I knew doing a crime would only cause harm to someone like you I wouldn't hesitate.
>>109114100Cope
>>109109312> have to wait for a new carddo you only have a single credit card? you know CC companies will give you like a $700 bonus just to make and use a new credit card right, then you can save that credit card for emergency use?
>>109107906>you can't be robbed because law says it is illegal
>>109114040A white man would easily recognise QR payment passive security>can see who is the merchant before commiting to a transaction>dynamic QR codes on EDC machines ensure the codes are one time use only
>>109113583Looks indian and jewish to me
never buy from jeets unless you want your card skimmed
>>109107258I always pay cash at 7/11.
>>109114597Too bad every convenience store and gas station is owned by them
Just put a limit on your card to cover grocery-tier purchases.
bank when you buy something from trusted webstores>HALT! Tell us why you need to buy this before we can let you proceed, for your own good! bank when someone drains my account after a scam>*crickets*
>>109115235Kek
>>109107355>jeet AND mudslimeEven worse
>>109114454how do you not know how credit cards workcharges are made to the card and appear on the statement. you never pay for the fraudulent charges. money never leaves your bank account. you have not been robbed.
>>109115441Cope
>>109111049some jeets fuck with the readers to force people to use the magstripe. with cards like what anon posted, it lets you see if the jeet has installed another head. there should only be one head in a valid reader but the problem with this approach is that a jeet can simply wire into the manufacturer's head and get the same data. magstripes should have been abandoned two decades ago but banks and whoever else insist on using them still.
>>109114066>decadeThen that's fucking stupid because I just (annoyed, of course) used the chip option over just taking my phone and tapping.They were literally the ONLY company that didn't have NFC after 10 years. It's insane they tried to pull that bullshit and had to be dragged kicking and screaming into a "standard."Goddamn Microsoft level.
>>109115062Good thing you can get cash from an ATM or your bank to keep in these cases. You DO keep Cash around, right?
>>109116029>use only cash because don't want to be robbed by jeets>use only card because don't want to be robbed by niggersThere's no winning, its the perfect brown system.
>>109111172Is that what they call being a faggot now? What's so bad about the word faggot?
>>109116029>using your phonecringe>>109116027>It's insane they tried to pull that bullshitfrom what i understand many american businesses had no choice but to wait because of third world banking systems in the country that still think it's 1980. banks wanted to make it as expensive as possible to use. didn't pan out well for them in other countries.
>>109116049It’s offensive
>>109116002Thisl
>>109116029>Good thing you can get cash from an ATMUh oh!
>>109116681so basic yet incredibly profitable. i check machines all the time before using them and actually look forward to finding one so i can steal it or blackmail the shopkeeper and would demand part of the profits or they'd get a beating.
>>109116721>he thinks it's always a shopkeeper putting it thereUnless it's a jeet run establishment don't be so sure.
>>109117028only in a jeet establishment, anon. they do this shit all the time in every country. wouldn't be surprised if they were already being extorted lol
>>109109207i first got a bank card around the same time chip and pin was introduced in my country (20 years ago) so using the magnetic strip was a rare occurance. these days contactless is so common that i don't remember the last time i even used the chip (as in inserting the card, contactless technically still uses the chip) outside of atms.i have used a magnetic strip recently, but that's because it was a gift card and those are made cheaply so only have a magnetic strip
>>109108385good goy
>>109116681You can use ATM without card. With a phone.
>>109107556Only deported? Not tried as criminals with conspiracy to commit fraud, identity theft, etc?
>>109108250How much cash do you carry? Fucking food order for 3 people costs $100 now, you're going to pay that in cash? You'd have to carry $1000 to get through a week.
>>109117649i always have around $300 on me
>>109117649protip: you can add money to your wallet when you get home each day instead of carrying a weeks worth at all timesalso consider moving if you're that worried about carrying $1000 on you, since that sounds like a shit hole
>>109109172Cash is the only legally binding way to pay in Germany. Everything else is optional.Businesses can refuse card but they cannot refuse cash.
>>109117649None
>>109109226Swipe is still available at Walmart if the chip reader is busted and won't read your card. Happened to me a few days ago.
>>109117999Walmart also offers their own solution to the contactless thing: Walmart Pay. I know because I used to work at walmart and kept up with the shit the company was doing on OneWalmart and the WIRE. I used it, I thought Walmart+ was kind of shit. The tuition assistance was nice, I wish I had finished my MBA.
>>109118042>just sign up for our store card, bro>it's painless>you only need to shop here anyway right?>JUST LOCK YOURSELF INTO OUR CONCRETE GARDEN BRO>IT'S PAINLESS
>>109107258Only Americans still use the magstripe, everyone else has moved on.
>>109118059It's not a store card though they do offer one. You would put in your CC details on the site. The site stores it. On self checkout you get a bigger barcode on the display above the scale. At self checkout you would get a smaller one on the pinpad. You would then take your phone and scan the barcode. This would let you pay without having to carry your debit card. It's the same selling point that Apple used with iOS and Apple Pay, "now i no longer need to carry my wallet, just my phone is enough", personally I dislike putting all my eggs in one basket like that, but I don't carry a wallet, I carry a purse (sometimes) now.
>>109108086>something something sneed oil something something retarded enough to think that soi changes the body's hormonesThis is an intellectual thread about factual things, not schizobabble. >>>/pol/>>109109537Cash is retarded and inconvenient. /g/ doesn't mean being a schizophrenic.>>109111354>tie all your finances to a cell phone broThat's even worse.
>>109108080>>109111184Shit like Apple pay is immune to this type of thing because the auth tokens issued to your phone by the bank rotate automatically at the moment you make a purchase. You kind of think of it as ephemeral api keys that get issued in batches to safeguard against precisely this kind of skimming bullshit
>>109111454>>109113227 See>>109118305https://youtu.be/8XB__8HHqss
>>109118109Nope. Most still use it
>>109108431>Dude put on a solid poker faceIzzat is a powerful motivator.
>>109118628izzat?
>>109114145That all sounds pretty jewish. And no it is pretty much all minorities. Mainly jeets.
>>109118345i think that's the most USA-coded video i've watched in my life.like damn, this shit is still an issue there?
>>109118846Only because we keep coddling retards. My 40-something year old mom who has master's degree education still acts helpless with anything technical and still doesn't even want to add to pay to her phone despite always having the latest Samsung. As cliche and lazy as it sounds, old people truly are the source of many of our problems
>>109117744>protip: you can add money to your wallet when you get home Are you one of those "I keep all my money underneath my mattress" faggot larpers?
>>109118846Yup
>>109118861i don't know what to make of this post. someone calling their mum "40-something" makes me feel old enough, but shit like "the latest samsung" and "old people" in the same post just...maybe i need a new hobby.>>109118883are you 13? who hides things under their mattress, especially money, like you're worried your parents will find out you have $2,000 in cash? what?
>>109118966Retard you said get more money when you get home which implies you don't get regular top-ups from your Bank or ATM (which requires a debit card or credit card of some type)
>>109118977i don't know what you're thinking of, but all i'm saying is that you don't need to carry all of your cash with you when you go out
>>109117744>you can add money to your wallet when you get home >>109118995Why would you not do this at a bank or atm? Keeping 10 grand on you at all times is retarded but so is keeping all of your life savings in one place like your house.
>>109112238in most of america people swipe thats why theres skimmers everywhere
>>109107906lmao this reminds me ok back when I used to think "it's okay if I get into an accident, insurance will pay for everything easy ez I'll have a car again the next morning and it won't be an issue at all"lollmao
>>109119836who told you that federal law guaranteed that you will have all costs of an accident paid for you by someone else? they lied to you, i'm sorry.
>>109119865It's not about the amount of money but the procees, time, and effort.You can be guaranteed money but in none of these cases are you guaranteed a speedy and quick process and unless you either don't value your time and have immense patience, it's kind of a stupid game to play.
>>109119903it's a credit card. you haven't paid for the unauthorized charges yet. you are not "guaranteed money", you aren't receiving any money at all. any time spent on this process does not affect or involve you since you never paid for the fraudulent charges in the first place.you really don't understand how this works, huh?
>>109119794They're slowly becoming a leftover relic even in the US metropolitan areas. Currently working in the DMV for a business trip and I haven't had to use cash a single time for anything. It's bum fuck middle of nowhere towns that refuse to upgrade along with retail chains like Walmart at home Depot that refuse to adopt it. Walmart is particularly our greatest with it because they force you to use either your physical debit card or their shitty "Walmart pay" alternative where you point the Walmart app at a QR code using your camera and it charges your current on file. If it weren't for shit like that then physical debit or credit cards would be obsolete because even Banks like Bank of America have the option of giving you a virtual card for online purchases or linking with NFC payment services.
>>109116002That's why I said to remove the magstripe from the card. If the chip reader or RFID don't work you know the jeet's a scammer and can call ICE on him.
>>109119922how do they know you didint try to scam ?
>>109120109They look at frequency of chargebacks and other factors.
>>109120109very easily rajesh
>>109107943Wow genuine human hands wrote this. Good job changing your ways and becoming a better person. I hope you stay on the righteous path.
>>109108010My man, committing serious crimes and defrauding people is NOT normal, and you clearly still think it's okay to do so
>>109120161kek
>>109119922Are you slow or something? Someone else already outlined what I'm telling you>any time spent on this process does not affect or involve you You are going to have to call in and explain that you didn't make the purchase and that they were in fact unauthorized. That costs, like I said1. Time2. EffortThen assuming you get though that easily, you regardless still have to spent time1. Not having a credit card and all the disadvantages that come with that. 2. Updating/changing credit cards in places where you use itThat's why the process is comparable to that of claiming insurance. In both cases you are insured against monetary consequence, but you're not insured against the time costs of making due on it, and again unless you don't value your time, is something you want to avoid.
>>109120615my bank lets me do it online, very easywhen it happened to me it took like 1 minute to report since i was already on the site reviewing my statement anywayi just used my second credit card while i was waiting for them to send me a new one. i didn't have to update any subscriptions either since they automatically switch to the new number.altogether i had to worry about it for maybe 10 minutesso basically, you are gay
>>109120629>bureaucracy's goodest goy
>>109120644why are you so mad
>>109120728How is he mad
>>109120161no it isnt
>>109120127it isnt 100%
>>109119836It's not even close to the same thing. The fact of the matter is that I WILL get my money back if I fraudulent charge shows up on my credit card. The same thing with your debit card but I wouldn't use my debit card lol.
