there seems to be lack of understanding on /g/ people about how laptop and desktop CPU worksin desktop you have huge CPU collers BECAUSE ITS REQUIRED for powerful CPUin laptop you never have more than half on an inch thick block on top of CPUpeople dont seem to get to their thick skulls that due to this difference a laptop CPU is never quite as powerful as a desktop CPU assuming both are same generation and same tech of CPUand we didnt even began to talk about power brick and battery requirements for a powerful CPU.. only the heatenings
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>dumb thread to begin with>reddit spacing>esl grammar and typos>ass-backwards understanding of how things worktry again in 10 years
>>109110109Without googling anything:Can you describe specific heat to me?Which metal has higher conductivity between copper, aluminum and nickel?Can you name the specific principal that liquids adhere to that makes heat pipes and trees work?>in desktop you have huge CPU collers BECAUSE ITS REQUIRED for powerful CPU>in laptop you never have more than half on an inch thick block on top of CPUWhy do multi-socket servers with 32+core CPUs work just fine in a 1U server with air coolers that fit into that form factor?Is liquid cooling actually better? explain why or why not.If you cant answer any or all of that, you aren't better than anyone else is. Most people here aren't hardware engineers or systems integrators, some of them are just software devs who notoriously don't know jack shit about anything besides whatever dogshit language/framework they write if/else statements with all day.I bet you couldn't even change the water pump in your car or refill the refrigerant in your HVAC system without looking up a dozen YouTube videos first, and all of those run on the same basic principals.Humble yourself.
>>109110109even though /g/ is mostly brown nowadays, most know this.so whats the issue? you got made fun of because you're a zoomgroid retard who only has a laptop?
>>109110109what are you trying to sayeven non-tech normies understand what you are saying about besides bots on tiktok
>>109110353>Why do multi-socket servers with 32+core CPUs work just fine in a 1U server with air coolers that fit into that form factor?because they blast the fans to absurd levels of noise because they can, unlike consoomer desktop needing to be at least tolerable noise wise
>>109110404You are half right, turns out just moving more air through an cooler massively increases it's effectiveness. Size is not what matters, size only increases surface area in contact with the air.It is also because server base clocks are lower and produce less heat per core than your average consumer slop CPU.Not to mention binning is better.
>>109110138way to out yourself as a newfag
>>109110423>Size is not what matters, size only increases surface area in contact with the airNot true. Go back to school and relearn physics.
>>109110109Big coolers are a meme from the days of overclocking Northwoods. People install them because they look cool but they're entirely unnecessary.>>109110138>reddit spacing Not a real thing, let me guess you joined here in 2016?
>>109110487"Reddit spacing" forced meme dates back to fake culture war between 4chins and reddit when Epstein and Ghislaine had both under control and tried to generate engagement bait during "gamer gate" fake and gay made up crisis, which was really a political campaign targeting younger generation.
>>109110109Plenty of laptops have larger coolers, big solid copper contact surfaces, 3,4, 5, 6 heat pipes with fin stacks on their terminating points, dual fans.The laptop market does vary a lot, and some manufacturers do the bare minimum, but it is not the rule.
>>109110586thats not the same as being thick because zero laptops are thickbut technology is not the obstacle here, we definitely could make them thick if a manufacturer could be persuaded into that
>>109110593>thickThe amount of copper, how its spread out, the fin surface area, and fan airflow matter, not just thickness. Moron.
>>109110423>Size is not what matters, size only increases surface area in contact with the air.What are you even saying? Are you implying that if you keep a constant airflow an Intel stock cooler will perform the same as an NH-D15? >It is also because server base clocks are lower and produce less heat per core than your average consumer slop CPU.They still reach the same temps as your consumer chips because they all operate on their maximum capabilities. Epyc chips can easily draw more than 1k+ watts.
>>109110138>Retard makes thread>Like fifty more retards respond to his retarded bait thread>OP decides he's a more specialer retard than any of them>Makes a new thread totally not responding to the first thread>A dozen retards reply to this one too>Now there's two retarded threads on the catalog>If the first thread falls off the catalog before the second one, there's no context as to why OP made this threadinb4 "but you responded to it"
>>109110109Wow OP, great AI training data, goy! I will put it in my collection! -Yours truly, rabbi Sam
>>109110791nta but that is the whole thought behind water cooled systemsyou stick some copper block with absurdly large surface area, force water through it and cool it later to loop it back, just replaced with air conditioning system and picrel forcing through roughly 30 liters of air per secondalso never really heard of any x86 server chip siphoning 1k+ watts per socket
Peltier coolers have been a thing for 30 years now. I use them on everything
>>109110935Pelt these nuts
>>109110955that doesnt even rhyme
>>109110969I don't have to
>>109110353> refill the refrigerant in your HVAC system
>>109110845>nta but that is the whole thought behind water cooled systemsWater cooling exists because it lets you use even more surface area for cooling than any internal cooling.More surface area only stops being useful when the heat dissipates before it can reach it.>also never really heard of any x86 server chip siphoning 1k+ watts per socketI misremembered the wattage was from GPUs.But the highest EPYC processor still have a TDP of up to 500W which is still much higher than any normal consumer CPU.
>>109111234Pure CPUs don't have stupid high TDP, but some mixed accelerators hit over 1000w. Stuff in the Radeon Instinct line, some Nvidia shit, other third party big die and MCM parts. High wattage is the norm now.
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>>109110423Size 100% matters. Why do you think fanless radiators are 10x as big as radiators that uses fans?
>>109111674What really matters is moving the heat and dissipating it. If you can use two long heat pipes to move the heat from a Ryzen APU you a small stack of fins with an exhaust fan, then it works great. I have a Dell with an Ryzen 7 5825U and it boosts clocks as high as a 5700G and thermals are still decent. Though I do still use a cooling pad simply because everything helps with a laptop.
>>109111674that is not exactly the reasonfanless shit are big because they have to bloat the distance between the fins because of extremely low pressure gradient caused by heat not being able to overcome the 'stickiness' of the air
