2TB $1400+TIP IT'S NEVER BEEN MORE OVER LITERALLY DOUBLE THE PRICE PEOPLE EXPECTED
>>109111918KEKTHANK YOU AITHANK YOU VIBEGODSWE WONhttps://store.steampowered.com/hardware/steammachine
Base model being over $1000 is insane 500GB and they want a stack
if the price is unreasonable, just don't buy it
Overpriced just like the controller and I think they didn't sell a single one of those but I haven't checked.
>>109111975>I think they didn't sell a single oneThey are selling too many of them, which is surprising because its worse than an 8BitDo Ultimate 2C.
>>109111918>it's realFucking RIP
Double the price for half the performace of a PS5 PRO.
you guys ain't seen nothing yet. these prices will seem low next year
>>109112054MAKE IT STOP
>>109112040How many games that you own can PS5 run?
Lmao$1399 - https://www.apple.com/shop/buy-mac/mac-mini/m4-pro-chip-12-core-cpu-16-core-gpu-24gb-memory-512gb-storage$1599 - https://www.apple.com/shop/buy-mac/mac-mini/m4-pro-chip-14-core-cpu-20-core-gpu-24gb-memory-512gb-storageBuy either of these instead and then buy an external SSD to get your 2TB storage
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qX67R4
>>109112040Nice launch pricing, retard. The PS5 Pro is $899 now. And still has zero (0) games.
Can’t wait to get this and fire up my favorite indie games bros
>>109111918so what's the price we'll see for the frame? $2k-3k?
>>109111918This is one of many proofs that the "good guy gaben" meme is simply a marketing psyop. Newell is a cuck of the capitalist system, just like every other capitalist. Everything he does, he does only because it's profitable. That's all. He's not outside the system; he's controlled by the system. And his behavior is a result of that.
>>109111938>Base model being over $1000 is insaneYeah, the 512GB model is just grossly overpriced. The 2TB seems reasonable enough for the hardware prices being insane for what they are.I guess Valve knows most folks are probably going to buy the "Ferarri" version like the original Deck (512GB, ironically) and 1/2TB OLED Decks were.>>109111953TPBP. I'm going to wait a year and see if prices spike or not before I buy one for the novelty, but it's not as a snap "cool gimmick" price for me right now.
>>109112234>The 2TB seems reasonable enough for the hardware prices being insane for what they are.No they're not.
>>109111918Why would I buy this when my computer is way better than it
>>109112240>$1286.87vs>$1349.00 (before taxes + tip)...That's within the ballpark... You know that, right?
so when is the year of the linux desktop going to be now? 2027?
>>109112249And half the RAM, ~70% slower GPU, louder CPU fan, un-upgradeable parts for the Steam Machine.
>>109111975The wait-list for the controller is stretching to 2028 by some reports and the newly priced Deck sold out. Seems like even if they aren't selling many of them, Valve is at least throttling their production>>109112249Yeah but the system he built is better than the Machine
>>109112040Consoles can be priced cheaper because they're sold at a lossThey expect you buy subscriptions and $80 goyslop
>>109112231What was Gaben supposed to do in this scenario? They're probably already selling these at a noticeable loss with this price. The rug was pulled out from under Valve with the AI-induced price hike faggotry. At least it has games, unlike the PS5, which Snoy wants $900-1000 for.
>being poorISHYGDDT
>>109111918Not paying 1000+ for an underpowered Linux shitbox
>>109112329how long until it goes in the closet
>>109112340Probably gonna be a while, there's not a lot of room left with (You) in there.
>>109112335Valve never asked you
>>109112249building your own is superior for a lot of reasons thoughcan't even argue form factor with the popularity of ITX
What's is the ideal gaming device for me if I hate the Steam Machine, hate Gabe Newell, hate the Steam Deck, hate the Steam Controller, hate Valve, hate playing with a mouse and keyboard, and hate all PC gaming in general?
reviews saying its worse than a PS5 by a lot this is insane where the fuck is valve trying to take pc gaming
>>109112357Game Gear
>>109112367Why would a Sega Game Gear be my ideal gaming device?
I just dont understand why someone would be interested in this to begin with. If it's just the small size you might as well get a mini pc setup that mogs this machine for less money.
>>109112231>I call psyop. This means *I* can't be called a psyop.No-one is buying your bs.
>>109112139Great now make it the same size
>>109112054Still not buying, Shlomo. Even if the prices increase this year, they're still gonna eventually crash, 2 years max. There's just not enough retarded goyim for you to flock at those prices for this long.
>>109111918My old PC with a 2070 non-super that I'm planning on sunsetting soon is more performant than this redditslop
>>109112407size doesn't matter
>>109112151Crazy how it is normal and expected now for deprecating hardware to get pricier has times go on.
>>109112416they arnt part of the equation anymore. micron stopped making consumer dram, nvidia is cutting production of geforce cards. the focus is to fill as many new datacenters to the brim as possible, they wont waste wafers on us anymore. the prices dont matter if your only customers are willing to lose $14billion a year chasing the AGI hype train
>>109112216can you explain why the frame would cost so much more when it uses less of the components that skyrocketed in price
>>109112309Since their real goal with the Deck and Machine is to spread the user base of Steam OS, they probably figure that a shitty launch is better than delaying it indefinitely. Combine the increased cost of hardware, along with how "AAA" game companies are hurting right now. Valve might want developers to get used to shipping SteamOS native, lower end (graphically) games as the new normal.
>>109112420The small size is like half the selling point of the Steam Machine
>>109112357Mobile phone games
>>109112492Why would an Android smartphone be my ideal gaming device?What Android games would give me the image of someone who hates Gabe Newell, hates PC gaming, and hates Steam?
>>109112357>What's is the ideal gaming device for me if I hate the Steam Machine, hate Gabe Newell, hate the Steam Deck, hate the Steam Controller, hate Valve, hate playing with a mouse and keyboard, and hate all PC gaming in general?Nintendo or Mobile.
>>109111918Loonix bros, not like this
>>109111927>store.steampowered.com/hardware/steammachineThere are faggots on their landing page. Are they advertising to faggots only? I thought video games were for children.
>>109112518>>109112512Which Nintendo console is the most anti-PC gaming and anti-Steam of all?Please, I want to avoid anything that even remotely resembles those Steam Deck and Steam Machine garbage.
You're probably too old to play video games, get into a sport and touch pussy.
>>109112538well, retarded faggots are the only ones who would buy this crap so it makes sense
>>109112570i'm good you have all that sports pussy enjoy
>>109112538>1x tranny, 1x lesbo, 1x indian, 1x black egirltop fuckin kek
>>109112544The one that makes PC gamers seethe the most the switch 2 (typically the recent console). You can sleep well tonight knowing a group of steam fans that actively despise you and have Nintendo rent free in their mind.
>>109112598because those are the people that want to figure out which version of proton to use per game
>>109112538>>109112598this has to be intentional marketing, theres a literal manchild
>>109112618>look at me i ripped out my imagination and childlike wonder at 18 like I was supposed to did I do good?
>>109111918>people expected $1200 of hardware for $700We need sony and microsoft to give us $500 consoles again, surely they'll save the timeline right?
>>109112628gaming is a luxury hobby now, prices are sticky
>>109112598>1x black egirlIs she? Looks like a random 35yo woman. It's fine to have whatever skin color on that ad, steam is global, so it makes sense to appeal to their target audience. All kinds of people.Why random adult people though? And why fags are the first ones to appear everywhere? It's a product for kind. Why kids are seeing TWO ADULT FAT GAY DUDES as the first thing on a landing page? What the fuck?
>>109112457But AI doesnt make money doe
>>109112656>It's a product for kindfor kids
>>109112598Valve knows they're (reddit) audience
>>109111938> 1k for a base model with 500gb? lmao they're out of their minds
>>109112544Buying licensed gameboy cartridges from ebay scalpers. Maybe getting some nintendo licensed funko pops while you're at it
>>109112617Those are cachy OS users, steamOS is supposed to have it right out of the box.
>>109111918Will Sony comeback now?
>>109112695>Will Sony comeback now?Depends, they killed of the idea of porting games to PC so maybe in the future we will see a proper return.
Is it safe to assume I can build a PC and install steamOS on it? Probably would need amd gpu and maybe a usb-3.5mm dongle to avoid trouble with drivers, right? OS is suposed to be immutable, so can't just tweak configs.
>>109112682Reasons Why would a game boy be my ideal gaming device?
>>109112407>pay $400 for Valve to put it in a nice boxBoutique pc builders charge less,and you can spec what you want.
>>109112623>buying things is childlike wonder to millennial uncsgrim
>>109111953> "just don't buy it" is how you end up paying $200 for a loaf of bread in 5 years.
>>109112656no kid would be caught dead with this shit its the uncoolest thing ever
>>109112760everyone buying stuff is literally how prices go up
>>109111918Nobody expected $700 for a 2TB unit. A decent 2TB NVMe SSD is like $450 on its own, you'd have to be some gutter retard to expect $700 with 2TB NVMe storage.
>>109112760That's going to happen regardless of what you do, because FAGMAN and AI companies are going to ruin like half of he world's economy after the burst and bail out.
>>109112745You asked for anti-pc and anti-steam.This avoids playing no-no pirated or even any digital games like pc gamers and has no ability to run steam-os even if it wanted to
>>109112085you can sell out ur mac for AI and make back the cost with it lol
>>109112796none of the data centers are ever getting built are they?
I'll buy it on sale.
>>109112745I got a backlit Glacier GBA on Etsy a couple years ago and it’s awesome. Lots of great games on GBA. Lots of slop on the Steam Machine.
>>109112040I think they were aiming for the same price, give or take. But ended up like that because of SSD, RAM and VRAM bs price hikes.
>>109112151it has GTA and thats all that matters
>>109112845At least I have the Game Boy Advance emulator on my smartphone
>>109111918Seems about right. What were people expecting? I don't think I've ever built a PC that was under 1k, at least for myself.
Switch 2 ads
>>109112457This shit will crash as well. AI can't possibly bring enough revenue to justify all the investment.
Steam Machine ads
>>109112604What's bad about the switch?
>>109112918>normal, healthy, happy white kidsmakes sense, Nintendo is based and trad
>>109112933A locked down bitch-boy tablet.
>>109112933>What's bad about the switch?I don't know but it makes them seethe.>>109112975Example
>>109112849>it has GTAAh yes, a game which isn't out yet and will be playable on a $200 used Xbox Series S. Truly the one great exclusive that the PS5 has been waiting for all this time.
>>109111953are you serious? is that possible? don't you realize goyim are forced to buy things?
>>109112965They were until the Switch 2 era, now they're featuring troons in their ads and including fake gender options in their games
Can't wait to buy the premoum VIP limited edition for 50000 dorrars so I can play terraria and some other pseudo retro garbage
>>109112871That’s a start. There’s something about dedicated hardware though…it’s just a little bit better.
>>109112760Then JUST DON'T BUY IT YOU APOCALYPTICALLY RETARDED TRIPLENIGGER
>>109112231>This is one of many proofs that the "good guy gaben" meme is simply a marketing psyop.wow really? what gave it away, sherlock?/g/ sending their best, clearly
>>109112760No, it really is as simple as “just don’t buy it.”Focus should be on getting out of debt, saving up 3-6 months of expenses ($10-12k or so) as an Emergency Fund. Not to buy a GabeCube.
>>109111918Did they announce Half-Life 3 as a Steam launch exclusive, too? No? It’s not there? It’s still vaporware like it always has been?
>>109111918512gb with controller looks good for me. Post link to purchase OP, oh faggot, >(you)
>>109112354>"please notice me corpo, please take my money for mediocre hardware and a monopoly"
>>109112760The massive price increases in computer/gaming hardware is entirely caused by the AI bubble, the 2-3 AI companies ordering 3 years worth of memory production (nothing concrete was signed, no money has changed hands, just a "I plan to buy lots of memory, trust me bro"), and the memory cartel which, in typical price fixing fashion, they used that as an excuse to artificially inflate their prices for everyone.AI companies are trying all the dirty tricks to burn more and more money, due to the CEOs deluding themselves they're about to create some superintelligent AI that will solve everyone's problems instead of a glorified semi-reliable chatbot that runs in a loop. They're about to run out of money unless they get IPOs on schedule, and their biggest clients are starting to question whether the glorified chatbots are even worth it.tl;dr by mid 2027 the bubble will pop and prices will fall to normal levels again
>>109113318>tl;dr by mid 2027 the bubble will pop and prices will fall to normal levels again>just one more year broYeah, suuuuuuure.
>>109111918I was really afraid it would end up over 1k due to the current shortage bullshitthat's far enough beyond reasonable that I just can't justify the spendif it was 700 or even 800, I'd snag one immediately>>109112085>mac>gaming??? kill yourself>>109112329I _can_ afford a fucking pallet of the things, but that doesn't mean I'm retarded enough to waste money on an objectively unreasaonable pricepoint for the performance
>>109113318two weeks
>>109111975Waiting lists are going in to 2027, you delusional retard.
>>109112656>it’s a product for a kidDidn’t realize the steam machine was a console
>>109113318>>109113330>>109113416there is a seven year wait list to even hook these data centers up to the grid. the ceo of microsoft said publically they can't deploy 90% of their gpus. all of this money has been spent and there are still no data centers to show for most of it. you think things are bad now? lol. lmao, even.
>>109113468lmao so they bought all that storage for what? They will be outdated by the time they will have the permission
>>109113477At least it made the shareholders happy for a year lmfao
>>109112040the ps5 doesn't have cool games. gabe wins againdoes ps5 have Blood Typers? nodoes ps5 have doorkickers 2? nodoes ps5 have the wine hunt? nodoes ps5 have project zomboid? nodoes ps5 have eSail? nodoes ps5 have dwarf fortress? nodoes ps5 have Tempest Rising? no.does ps5 have realflight (any version)? nodoes ps5 have liftoff micro drones? nodoes ps5 have shapez 2? nodoes ps5 have civilization 3? nodoes ps5 have total war: warhammer 3? nodoes ps5 have x-plane? no.
>>109113477There's a rush. the spigot is drying up.
>>109113477>lmao so they bought all that storage for what?because someone else will buy it otherwise. that's actually quite important, because it is a competition and only a few companies can do this. >They will be outdated by the time they will have the permissioneveryone else is in the same position.something that guys don't understand is that the real world is limited and you don't have 100% agency. you can't sit around making ivory tower decisions that are perfect in execution. that doesn't exist. you have to play the field in front of you or get beaten. that's it.
>>109111918Literally don't give a shit at all. There are more games already released than you can play in a lifetime on hardware from the mid to late 2010's just fine. You are what's wrong with the world.
>>109113525>You are what's wrong with the world.>posts tech news>it's all your faultanon go outside
>>109113511You concluded that "we guys" don't know shit about agency just because someone asked why did they buy all the storage (legit question btw)? You don't get upvotes here man. but have a pity (You)
>>109113468That only strengthens his point IMO. this shit is all fake as fuck
>>109112407Here. Just 40bux more (~1070€), same FF and performance. Thrown in Windows only for the most retarded normies.
>>109113318Nah, even if I can see a pop in 2027, we'll see another pricing peak before that, a 100-200% price increase for both storage and memory. Prices will normalise at mid 2026 levels around... 2030, maybe they'll reach 2025 levels around 2032-2035
>>109113537you seem to be upset. i explained why companies are doing what they are doing, something that anon obviously doesn't understand, or else he wouldn't have asked. you are welcome to cry harder about it. cry like a little bitch. >muh upboatsgo back to r*ddit little guy, it is where you belong. >>109113543well, it's helping to liquidate all the financial reserves these megacompanies were sitting on at least. great time to be in the construction business.
>>109113566SG13 is such a cute case, but I wish there was a more modern, premium version of it.
>>109111918> 2TB $1400+TIPJust pay a little more and build a much more powerful AM4 gaming PC.
>>109112796>just contribute to hyper inflation and feel the hurt in 3-5 years insteadanon is smart but doesnt realize what hes doing so its kinda funny.
>>109112231>le ebil gabun failed to magically fart out hardware out of thin air
>>109112990Kek, I see. I'm a PC gamer but the most I think about the switch is one of my brothers has one and he brings it to family things so our kids can play mario kart sometimes. It seems fine to me, exactly what I'd expect it to be and what anyone buying one would want out of it.
>$1000>will run worse than any used $400 gaming laptop from 2 years agothat's... sad, honestly.
>>109111918Thanks scam altman, yet another good thing ruined by AI
>>109112796FYI the real earnings are pretty bad compared to their estimate. I've been running since mid-April, with a M4 Pro 64GB on 24/7, currently running that Genma model in your screenshot
>>109112796Where is this?
>>109112407why? so its impossible to work on without spending a day with it?also, DGPU vs IGPU, you could actually fit a 5090 in the tower case, at which point it will murder everything, not just the steam machinewhere as no amount of money you throw at your linux game cube, its not gonna grow a pcie slot
>>109112796Who would pay that much money for tokens for Gemma4 for running it in some insecure environment? This looks like a scam.
>>109111918>rdna3is there any doubt now that valve pressured AMD into spring fsr4 on more than just the 90x0?
The fact that this costs money in a shortage is making so mad I am going to go spend thousands on Fortnite skins
>>109113417I guess you really do need to add /s or brownoids won't get it.
>>109111918You can get better performance from some of those minipcs for -=200 dollars of a Steam Machine.
>>109112796>moneygrubbing with hardware accessfuck you>undercutting datacentersbased
>>109112231you know you don't have to buy this in order to play games from steam, right? you can use your existing hardware, or someone else's
>>109113770Not really. All APUs suck in comparison to even the cheap garbage they put in.
>>109113794the strix halo 395+ is competitive with the 4060 and 4070, the cheapest computer you can get with it is $2100 though.
I will never forgive Nvidia for what they've done,but Valve also isn't lying about being price competitive unfortunately.
>>109113794Steam Machine is what, 8060S-tier. You can get a minipc with an 8060S, desktop 5060, or laptop 5070. You also get a better NIC and twice the RAM.
What an overpriced piece of junk.
>>109112040From a pure hardware perspective, yes. However, far less choice of games, no mods and nothing lewd or uncensored because Sony bent the knee to useless foids.
current economics really fucked them up, but i also feel like they overpromised this thing a bit with the 4k thing.but finally we're getting greenlight to install steamOS straight to our AMD gigs and I feel like this is bigger than steam machine itself lol
>>109113866whats so great about steamos?
Would rather get a PS5 Pro with my OLED for COD MW4 sessions. I don't play any other shitteo games
>>109113875Or use my full desktop with 9070 xt for aaa at 4k 120 fps with FSR 4.Steam machine is retarded, or for trannies.
>>109113571If the AI bubble pops then there goes all the demand for memory and all the memory contracts will be rendered null and void. Memory manufacturers will be left with a huge amount of chips with nobody to sell them to, unless they get the prices back down to sane levels again.
>>109113874About the steam OS itself, not much aside from being another flavor of arch linux tightly coupled with Steam that will, quite literally, turn your desktop into a living room PC.I guess it's more symbolic, now you have a real alternative to Windows backed by another monopoly (valve).You can do so with Cachy or arch itself, i've been running cachy for a month and it's been great.
>>109112040Honestly, it's a shame Snoy killed off OtherOS, would be an amazing feature given the current state of the market
>>109113926I guess its cool when you put it that way
>>109112240That MicroATX case is 3x the size of the Steam Machine. Make one with an ITX motherboard and case.
>>109111918FUCK AIFUCK AltmanFUCK PalantirAll the AI apps that let normies make memes without effort actually made pretty much every metric of life worse, and now they ruined the Gabecube launch. Fuck AI.
>>109112665Anon, the issue is that there's not enough gold in the mine to make up for all the money being spent on pickaxes. If you're the pickaxe seller, that's not your problem, retards who think the mine is exploitable are still lining up to buy all your pickaxes fresh from the assembly line
>>109112054If no one buys they can price hike all they want, you big nose fella.
I've got an ITX motherboard (A520), A 5600X, 16gb of DDR4 and a few other parts laying around, I like the novelty of a steam machine, but if I just pick up a GPU and a case I'm pretty good I think. Such a pity there aren't any low profile 9060XTs, I really really like the Jonsbo NV10 case (image poached from PCpartpicker)
PS5 Wins again
You know if the RAM crisis wasn't happening I'm betting 100% that Chinese companies were watching the steam machine and would have dropped clones that either undercut or offered better performance for the same money.
>>109113995I always worry when I see the sex offender figurines.
>>109114002>>109113501
>>109113813The Strix Halo GPU is about the same on its own i guess. That's the fun part. CPU is much faster though ofc.>>109113827Doubt you can get 32GB Ram for the same price. Talking strictly about pre-built mini-ish PC.The target audience for the Steam Machine is not someone who would pick parts themselves and build a new PC. You would just upgrade your old PC.
>>109114106>MINISFORUM AtomMan G1 Pro$10 more than the steam machine and you get 16c/32t instead of 6c/12t, 32GB DDR5 RAM, RTX 5060 8GB, Wi-Fi 7, Bluetooth 5.4, and a 5Gb NIC.
>>109114155?
>>109112040>Double the priceDoesn't matter when you save that up in a few game purchases. I have a PS5 but the game costs are retarded for consoles so I barely use it. Thank Gabe for Steam sales.
>>109114173What's the question?
>>109114173>20% offlmao sales aren't valid for comparisons.
>>109111953Actually the most annoying thing about this whole thing lol. They are still going to sell out.
>>109113991inb4 the government starts subsidizing these AI companies with your tax money so they can pay for the hardware
>>109111953/g/eets can't understand this simple concept and will take loans to buys garbage they can't afford
>>109113582>>109113965>>109112407Who gives a fuck seriously?
>Who gives a fuck seriously?
>>109113566the concept of a single ram stick and a whole gpu being in the similar price range
>>109111953Next you'll say don't breath if the air is dusty
>>109114051>One Piece and Metal Gear>Two of the most normie choices for a figurine>Not even a safe-horny female characterGo back
>>109114174PS5 always has sales and you can buy used games
Valve has said they've seen similar price pressures on this that they've seen on the deck, which would indicate an originally intended price of $750.
Gamers and AI fags should rope
>>109114810cute
>>109114810What went wrong in your life to make you so hostile and retarded?
I’m sure some people are getting the bundle just to get a controller and will sell the machine
I'm not going to defend pricing, it is what it is but I just want to point out Valve is at a significant disadvantage in this matter due to how open their platform is. They can't play "sell devices at loss and cover it with store sales profit" long-term strategy like alternative systems can, because as soon as their hardware is the cheapest on the market in relation to computetional power it will end similar to just like PS3 did when security measures were overcome and Linux got running - purchased in bulk and placed in a supercomputer cluster.Sony doesn't have to make a profit on every PS6 device, GTA will make sure they will stay greatly profitable at the end of the day. Valve can't really take a risk to give away steam machines without any marginal profits, this is too much to ask from such an open hardware platform in my opinion.
>>109114672>he knows their names
>>109114810why does she have a rash on her arms?
>>109114672>LabubuNah, OP definitely is a pedo
>>109112772>buying stuff is literally how prices go upLol
>>109112598this turbo charged my disassociation disorder
>>109112054huh that's weird
>>109113177Nothing will be achieved if some heads don't roll. you double jewish nigger
>>109112760they hated him because he told the truth
>>109115161>laptop ramlmao
>>109111953Other faggots will buy it and gaymes will be gimped to support it for the next 10 years. This is the Series S but for PC gaming.
>>109115262>the Series S but for PC gamingThe Series S launched at $300. This is Apple Tax+++ because Valve knows they can get away with it.
>>109115032That part didn't register. I retract my previous statement
They should credit buyers steam accounts to subsidize this
>>109115357I know a few unemployable neets that a few grand over the years off those Steam NFT cards. Hardcore Steamboys already have the money needed to buy anything they want on Steam.
>>109113501These are all games you can play on your fucking phone or an e-waste laptop from a junkyard, nothing justifies this piece of shit cube being 1200+ dollars.
gamers nexus runs defense for valve half his review instead of just reviewing the product, he also says its better value than similar priced prebuilts which are similar other than the faster CPU and GPU with unlocked power limits. get real
>>109114357Why is it annoying? Enroll to win the lotto and sell it for a profit. I’m seriously considering doing that myself. I don’t even want one so I’ll sell my spot to someone else.
>>109112231he didn't release half life 3, therefore I fucking despise him
Sweeney needs to make the Sweeney Machine with fortnite preinstalled
>>109111927>No white men on the entire page.>The only straight male is the one using it for actual workKek
>>109112760>buy it>price goes up>don't buy it>price goes up anyway
>>109115569>gamers nexus runs defense for valve half his reviewI don't blame him. Considering his target audience, criticizing Valve would actually be heretical. Gaben is God.
>>109115613if people don't buy anything these retards will have unwanted stock being a net negative, eventually they would have to lower the pricesYou fucking retard
>>109115703>eventually they would have to lower the prices>You fucking retardJust destroy the remaining stock and write off the loss on taxes. Designer brands do it all the time.
>>109111918why are people surprised.if they'd undercut, scalpers/people would just buy it to strip out the ram and ssd.
I knew storage got more expensive, but didn't think it increased in cost almost 90%. I remember a few years ago when I was buying batches of 250GB for hoarding, what I collected was enough for my needs. The internet is more fake/gay/retarded, so I can't justify buying more because all the good files/websites are gone.
>>109115262>gaymes will be gimped to support itEverything requiring high end Nvidia hardware for graphics that weren't any better than portal 2 was retarded. I doubt they'll be "gimped."
Death to the NAND cartel.
>>109112416Yes there are because it's not consumers buying it. It's boomers taking their entire life savings and funding it via bonds/equity.
>>109115703>eventually they would have to lower the pricesNo they'll just stop making it because they won't be able to sell it for a profit.
>>109115569he doesn't really, at the end of the video he basically says it's a novelty box and only worth it if you like quirky new things
>>109115765>but didn't think it increased in cost almost 90%.Yeah, it has. We just bought a bunch of SSDs for some embedded devices we manufacture and the prices are absurd.
>>109111927BasedLuddites BTFO
>>109111918It's a perfectly reasonable priceMy last PC cost me like $3K
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Evkc4FtK5_wBased Moores law calls Valve out and bad guy gabe's greed.Calls them out on overcharging for mediocre hardware and they should have just cancelled it instead. MS are going to destroy them.
>>109112358To medium settings 1080p (576p internal) landIf the steambox becomes a huge success maybe some devs will start optimizing their shit for once.
>>109112054>ddr5lmao who carest.ddr4 master race
>>109116128You joke about 567p but the PS5 does a lot of upscaling trickery, and also runs plenty of games at 1440p (upscaled) instead of native 4k, some stuff is upscaled from little as 360pBut they have the advantage of people playing it from 2-3 meters away and just playing games instead of pixel peeping ike PC nerds do. I wonder if people reviewed it from the perspective of sitting on the couch rather than squatting in front of a monitor people would feel differently.
>>109116220Don't listen to the steamtard, they can't accept that the playstation 5 is a better deal than their DOAboxSales on PSN match or exceed Steam sales for value now, and the hardware is clearly better than whatever valve can muster.
>>109116220Exact same number as on my jailbroken PS4.So?
>>109116220PC has millions of games
>>109116261And nearly all of them are bad, or incompatible with modern systems.
>>109112849Maybe if your IQ is a single digit.
>>109112054Meh i'm still on ddr4.
>>109112054I'm so glad I moved away from gaming as a hobby to model kits
>>109116220>tons of duplicate entries even on your own screenshotGrim.
>>109116498Same here, but with chess. I kinda hope they price regular people out of computers and smartphones entirely so everyone goes back to playing at chess clubs instead of online.
>>109111918I bought a used rig with better specs than this piece of shit for $1200 all the way back in 2020. What the fuck guys?
>>109115703see >>109115750>he doesn't know about atari
>>109111918>28 RDNA3 CUsisn't this like gtx 1070 ti tier?
>>109116220there are 9 games in that pic of 18 games
>>109113960Linux’s rise has also been good for Windows users like me. I got way better things to do with my life than screw around with audio settings in Linux, so I won’t be switching to it. Microsoft being scared of me going to Linux is great. All the autistic sperging about 11 being an agenic OS is GONE. They’re finally doing the shit I’ve wanted them to do for years.
>>109111918>Be Valve>Won't update your games for years and those we do we make them shittier.>CEO is fat and needs more money for yacht.>We release a mini PC with Trans OS for 1000$+ KEK... Volvo will never stop be funny.
>>109113602He's sitting on infinite money printing machine.If he was serious he would be starting his own factories in China, instead he buys individual parts for consumer prices like a faggot and then whines its too expensive because of "muh AI".Gabe wants to play with the big boys, but is unwilling to bring big boy toys to the playground and then cries when he gets beaten up.
>>109117167>>Won't update your games for yearsThey are literally still updating HL1. It is nearly 30 years old.
>>109117193TF2 no updates.CS2 is shit infested with hackers.L4D2 no updates.HL1 and CS1.6 got small updates for graphics and shader effect. ... it's a joke.
>valve NPCs getting scam-rapedgood
>>109117199>TF2 no updates.Last update was month ago.
>>109111918>>109112054Socialists were right about everything.
>>109117207those are fixes not new content.
>>109111918So why did exactly Valve decide to release the Gabecube right now, in the middle of a hardware shortage crisis, that is significantly driving up prices instead of waiting for a couple of years for prices to normalize once the AI bubble pops? They could just say they would delay it due to market pricing and be done with it. The very first steam machines were a flop and that was with hardware pricing being significantly lower compared to today's prices. Are they using them simply to shill their OS to the general public, or has Gaben gone completely senile?
Thanks to Gaben I can finally live the dream.
>>109117211Always have been. The western 0.1% have just manipulated people with the gov to keep their power. Too bad nothing will ever come of this knowledge.
>>109117251>So why did exactly Valve decide to release the Gabecube right now(((Gabe))) is so greedy, he would rather recoup those tiny losses from stocking parts for this CrapMachine, than just cancel it outright and not take massive future financial hit to his Steam business due to cultural losses of this disaster of a release.
>>109114810I want to fuck her and slip a finger inside her asshole while she calls me daddy
>>109116110I cannot STAND the way this faggot talks
>>109117212>they don't update their game>yeah they update their games but not this specific game>yeah they update this specific game but they didn't add any new contentHow far are you going to move that goalpost?
>>109111918AI is causing shortages, even fucking MLCCs are hard to come by these days.
>>109115246huh thats weird
>>109112628
>>109115779This, they would much rather be making HBM for data centers than DRAM for ungrateful chuds.
>>109113501literally this, this is just a better gaming pc, windows 11 updated cause of this
>>109112271Noctua L12S is a tiny little LP cooler, it's not that quiet. It's in line with the noise performance of the Steam Machine cooler.
>>109117155>They’re finally doing the shit I’ve wanted them to do for yearsname 5 things not including>notepad with tabs>explorer with tabs>new terminal
>>109117251>>109117275it's just not for you poorslol this or its price-tag won't get people with hundreds of games in their steam library to stop using steamgo play fortnite via EpicLauncher and move to israel you fucking losers
>>109112240Needs to be Ryzen 5600 instead, as Ryzen 5600GT and Ryzen 5500 do not support PCIe 4.0 and will bottleneck that GPU.
>>109112240>being insanereally concering to see so obviously tiktok-addicted zoomers describe anything bad or inconvenient as "insane"
>>109112231>Gaben isn't literally Leninsay it ain't so!
ngl i didn't think steam machine reception would go as badly as it has people are pissed off at this shit not just the price but that it runs like garbage too
>>109112309>>109112477Both the Deck and Machine are meant to act more like reference devices than products. Think of it like a Founders Edition Nvidia card or a Microsoft Surface, the purpose is to have some hardware that can make use of the features you want to implement in software, and let consumers use that while other manufacturers get theirs ready to market. Then again this doesn't always work, case in point, the Microsoft Surface, how many Windows tablets are there besides it?
>>109117275he could have made a new 'eck instead, no one's gonna buy the 'chine
>>1091186071. Taskbar on top2. Low latency profile improving general system performance3. Web Results out of Taskbar Search4. Additional Win32 Dark Mode Modal Boxes5. Windows Update can now be delayed indefinitely6. Web Containers getting dumped for WinUI3 for internal apps (Start, Notepad, Explorer, etc.)7. Widgets dumping Bing nonsense (but I don’t care about this one so much)Stay on your Linux distro, kiddo. Please, for my sake. I don’t care which one you’re on as long as you are on something. They’re all great.
>>109120136There were a few other Windows tablets being made several years ago but that category slowly died off.
>>109120154how long until 'een on 'chine
>>109120136Lets be honest, if it wasn't for the whole AI situation we'll be seeing a bunch of Chinese companies building clones with similar or better specs, undercutting the steam machine.Maybe even with SteamOS.
>>109120262That's the point, the purpose is to create the category. Imagine a world where all Nvidia board partners quit except Zotac and Palit>>109120356Yeah, and that's the desirable outcome for SteamOS. Margins on hardware are horrible, they want more people buying games. If anything, it's concerning how slow things like the Ally or Legion go are moving compared to the Deck
There are going to be enough morons who are found to buy this trash and try to convince everyone else that it's the greatest thing they've ever bought. Let's go!
>>109120622yea just look at steam deck owners>720p display is great!>shit battery life is great!>noisy fans are great!>30fps gaming is great!
>>109111918this needed frame gen
>>109119228>implying rich consoomers would want entry level performance for a premium priceIt's a bad product for the price for everyone, full stop. A rich fag with sense would buy a Strix Gaylo mini PC or an actual premium SI-built ITX for a small HTPC, not this crap.
>>109120165Literally all of those except the dark mode modal boxes can already be achieved on win10 LTSC2021.Windows 11 was just a giant regression.
>>109111918>$1000>hardware is already outdated>doesnt come with the fucking controllerLOL WHAT! what a fucking joke. waste of money
>>109121277I wonder how long until someone ports them to Windows 10
EL OH EL valvetards
>>109121500I for one am glad that Valve has finally killed PC gaming.
scalpers will resell these for 3kpeople will buy themsteam will be sold out on the first daythis is the future
>>109111918?????? Why the hell you need this shit ???? I assume you all already have gaming PC right ??
>>109115775How much life could they possibly have left? Trump's a sleepy shambling corpse that shits himself and he has the best healthcare in the world
>>109122382>scalpers will resell these for 3kwithout the ram and ssd
>>109111918I can't believe the entire industry created an AI bubble to spike hardware prices just to get revenge against GabeN for not caving to the credit card companies
>>109111918imagine spending almost 1500 shekels just to have the privilege to consoom goyslop. almost like seeing another shoah in realtime
They had two choices with the ram price issue.1. Price it as low as they can and take as little profit as they can while trying to edge out the console marketOr2. Give up on the ambition of competing in the console market and just make it a living room PC priced as such for more profit.They chose 2, because 1 wasn't going to work with prices the way they are.
>>109122694It's overpriced to prevent people with no intentions of using for steam to look elsewhere.They developed the steam machine as a standardized testbed for steam os, and functionality with games in particular. They have no interest in somebody buying their product and attempting to do nothing but run utility programs outside of the steam ecosystem. It designed for ine thing and rhat is to play light steam games, and focus on gathering telemetry to better optimize for simple hardware.The price is entirely there to prevent anybody from using it for its intended purpose.It's like buying a risc-v testbed and complaining that it's slow. It's meant to experiment. The steam machine is just an experiment where the user is the guinea pig. They need the rat to run the maze, they don't need people to arbitrage the test equipment for their own purposes.
>>109112598All of them Linux kernel devs btw
>>109122694I disagree, they could have focused their efforts on the Deck 2 and they could have designed it around being dockable. It's not like the software is any different anyway and a docked Deck 2 would be identical to using a Steam Machine. Even if they had to price the Deck 2 high at least it would have longevity and functionality beyond being a low spec e-waste cube. How many console gamers right now have a Switch 2 docked next to their TV? A Deck 2 designed to be easily dockable and a controller puck in-built to the dock would have been a million times better and everybody would have loved it. If prices improved they could drop the price and it would still make sense to purchase unlike the machine which is only becoming more useless by the second
>>109112849
>>109111918just build your ownit will be more expensive but diy is better for longevity anyway
>>109122913Except it's not more expensive, that build that one anon posted in the other thread was actually like $100 cheaper.
>>109112151it has 2TB SSD thoughps5 pro - 850 eurosSM 2TB - 1430
>>1091230162tb ssd for all zero games it has
>>109122854>They developed the steam machine as a standardized testbed for steam osthen why did GNs have paths still set to "deck" and references to sensors only on the deck?
>>109111975>i think>but i haven't checkedthat's the opposite of thinking you cretin
>>109112231>waaaaa I didn't get it for free gaben is evil and ruined my lifejesus fucking christ I hate communists so much
the only people buying a cuckcube at this price are very uninformed people and guys with enough expendable income to drop $1,000+ on a gimmicky toy. im sure there are plenty of both lining up right now
Gamers Nexus teardown of the Steam Machine confirm that Valve used Pheonix 2 with 2 standard Zen 4 cores and 4 smaller Zen 4c cores. It is worst than previously thought.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glXA3ObwSwQ
>>109111918I wonder what the OS is gonna look like if its gunna be that way
>>109123316you only need a laptop cpu for gaming and if you want more you are just poor
>>109123316We knew what to expect from the GPU, but that weak-ass CPU is just diabolical.
>>109123349the cpu will perform even worse because all steam machines ship with 1 dimm of ram so it's half the memory bandwidth. a little crazy of a decision
>>109123359
>>109123359Game performance doesn't rely that much on dual channel but all this shit is moot at the price point anyway so w/eGimped PC box for 1k+.. fuck off Gabe
>>109111918>Caring about Valve products in 2012+14
>>109123397its jsut the difference between 40 fps and 60 fps in cpu intensive games it doesn't even matter
>>109123415You only need 40 fps if you have vrr.
>>109123359Nah, not all, in the gamers nexus review there was an interview segment with the valve guys and they said it's basically gacha. You're getting whatever supply they had that day, 1 stick of 16 or 2 sticks of 8.
>>109123448>You're getting whatever supply they had that day, 1 stick of 16 or 2 sticks of 8.They said this wasn't true and sent Gamers Nexus a correction, see the screenshot here >>109123362 all units will have 1 stick only and yeah it won't matter in heavily GPU bound scenarios but the 1% lows will still suffer
>>109123422VRR doesnt work below 48fps by default you need extra protocols that dont always exist on your hardware.
>>109123362Not even dual channel? Kek say it ain't so goy. Say it ain't so
>>109123316https://www.phoronix.com/review/amd-ryzen-5-8500ghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8W-bohOHpEcThey honestly shouldn't have hard locked it to 30w, the chip was weak already also not fuse off the igpu.
>>109124042it's dual channel if you source the second stick yourself ;)
>>109112040> SnoyMight as well hand it out for free considering the price of the system is meaningless and you're tied into a $130/year subscription and $80 games to make up the difference
>>109123359The CPU they chose is genuinely pathetic and I don't understand what they were thinking. >>109123415It shouldn't be *as* bad with DDR 5 since it has higher bandwidth, but it's still a retarded decision. At this point Valve took the wrong decision at every junction. The only way I see them saving the Machine is to release a barebones version at like half the price, then at least people who already own weak-ass gaming laptops can use their existing RAM/SSD.
>>109123362This is a good thing, now you only have to buy one more stick to upgrade to 32.
>>109122904this is really gonna hurt the sales of GTA6 SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MUCH BRO
>>109121277My original statement was “finally doing what I’ve wanted them to do for years.” You asked me to list 5, I listed 7. Now you’re talking about an OS that is on extended life support to 2032. I’m sure you know the “I’m staying on XP forever, oh OK I’ll upgrade” routine at this point. When that comes for 10 LTSC, wouldn’t it be NICE for Windows 12, 14, 365 (whatever they call it) to have most of the regressions between 10 and 11 addressed? I would, so having /g/tards on a terminally incomplete platform like Linux helps that mission. It’s such an easy argument to make because it’s all they want to do anyway. Win win.I love Linux. People should keep using it so I can benefit on Windows.
