If the retail SSD market is dead, why is the 4TB SN850X $1,000 off MSRP?The 8TB version is almost $2,000 below MSRP too.
I bought the SN850x 4TB for $250 before the altmanpocalypseMSRP is fantasy
>>109114748>if nobody is buying, why are they tryna convince ppl to buyWe may never know
>>109114748>>109114785Honestly the thing I hate most about what's happening is the retail market getting away with basically scamming the market for months and months and people will only blame the fabs.
>>109114748The preivous price is fake to make you believe in a fake sale, it's always like that. This used to be illegal by the way. And a 4TB SSD in 2026 should be $150 at most.
this whole price fixing scheme is going to collapse at some point. people who bought nvme at insane prices will be big mad. nand wafer manufacturers will increase production and inevitably the hyperscaler companies are going to fold on some of their contracts as LLMs become more efficient.
>>109114748I'm about to pay $799 for a 9100 Pro 4TB because I don't think I'll be able to buy anything for the next decade
>>109115234anon, why?
>>109114748Its incredible that on Geizhals it lists the 870 QVO 8 TB for just 320 new in 2023. Now they are unavaiable. Used ones go for 700.I somewhat regret not buying one in 2024 when it was 300, but I got a 9100 PRO 4 TB from the same guy for also 300. After all it feels like a bargain if you look at prices now. For a generic 2 TB Crucial P3 I paid 50 in 2024. I did not really need so much but it was cheap. Now you wouldn't even get a 1 TB for that money.The good thing is you can sell off your old trash. Someone paid 70 € for my 2016 960 EVO 500 GB. You can charge similar money for some generic 2 x 8 GB DDR4 kits. >>109115234Don't do it. I only did it because it was affordable and I resold my 2+1 TB 980 PROs. I was simply wanting unified system and games drive. Its blazingly fast in benchmarks, but in reality I feel no difference to the 2 TB PCIe3 SSD mentioned above that is in my laptop. You are currently better off buying multiple SSDs. And QLC is enoufg for games.
realistically, where does this road end? a new form factor and type of storage media? prices return to normal? prices continue to increase? return to the old ways?
>>1091155519100 Pro doesn't have good value for the dollar (right now), but to your point I will absolutely refuse to buy QLC>>109115515I'm building my first and last overkill PC in the age of AI prices. 9800X3D, 5080, 2x32 DDR5 6000, 4TB 9100 Pro tentatively
>>109115603Eventually it returns but it can take years. Even HDDs seem to be affected now. I was looking for a large 2.5 for mobile storage like my 5 TB Seagate I paid around 110 for in 2017, the price now is 160.>>109115609Sounds like you are rich and careless about value. But then get a 5090 if you really are. 5080 is trashiest value possible.And the 9100 PRO offers no real benefit over cheaper PCI4 options. Not sure if the NM790 is QLC. I would avoid QLC / DRAMless for system drive, but 500-1000 GB is enough. I would rather get capacity in QLC than having none on a TLC drive. In some cases even HDD is acceptable. At least as additional storage for games. I've been using one for ages until around 2022 when SSDs became affordable enough to be viable. Most old games like Mass Effect 3 show no difference in loading times at all on SSD.The only real reason for the 9100 was Davinci Resolve, it can have the caches all on the same drive, the speeds are so insane it doesn't affect it. My NAS is a 970 EVO 2 TB but limited by 2.5 Gbe, so around 280 MB/s. But here the cost for 10 Gbe doesn't justify, plus the server board having only one PCIex16 that is used by NVMe board. Maybe in 5 to 10 years I would upgrade to AM5 when AM5 finally hits the era of 10 € mainboards.
>>109114848>blame the fabshuh? For the past 5 years I haven't heard a single peep about any fabs, people only blame AI datacenters. Those ones that aren't getting built. Yeah they're somehow driving up prices.
>>109114848>>109115683it seems like a combination of shit tech journalism, annoying tech "influencers", retailer greed, AI hyperscaler greed riding on the hype, and irrational consumers telling people to stop being poor all over social media. a perfect storm.
>>109114748Seems like a rip off when I was buying all my 4TB NVME drives for $300....AUD.
>>109115603That depends on the AI bubble and the self-proclaimed "vibeGODS".
>>109114748Oh shit the heatsink ones are actually in stock lmao. This is definitely the best deal on an SN850X I've seen since I bought my two 2 terabyte ones on black friday for 160 a piece. It's still a shit deal tho, just less shit than it's been. Is this a sign of recovery?
High prices have exactly one cause, retarded goycattle buying at those prices.
>>109114755> mfw you think $250 for a 4tb nvme is a deal when they were $180 last yearngmi
>>109115194> muh price fixing collapsebeen hearing this since 2020, still waiting. nand wafer output is already oversupplied, margins are just too fat rn.
