>>109115117
Mrmm yess very inteligent sir
I thinking they use AI to?

I stopped applying a year ago after going through the motions of applying and interviewing with no luck.

My friend texted me a few days ago telling me that the market is getting hot again with companies needing to hire devs since there are now a lot of codebases with no engineers who actually understand them.

Another friend of mine got laid off that same week and was able to secure two offers almost immediately.

I slowly started applying again but the signals all look the same as last year (i.e. hundreds of applications per position).

Have you all noticed a change in hiring/application process the last week or two?

>>109115117
Thank YHWH that Jared Kushner is there, can't think of anyone more qualified

>>109115133
Stfu reddit reposting nigga

>>109115133
I think you need a job to be able to post in this thread

I can't tell if my job has made me a better or worse person because i'm way more jaded but have picked up a bunch of ancilliary skills and am generally happier

>>109115243
Growing up is seeing all the naive belief in your fellow man slowly go away
Jews were really on something when they said that most people are soulless animals

>>109115308
>Jews were really on something when they said that most people are soulless animals
not really, they consider goys to be like cattle in that they are still useful. most people are not useful

Received my 3% inflation pay bump hell yeah

>>109115308
NTA I read this 5 times, and I have no idea what connection your first statement has to the second. Maybe I'm not as old enough yet

>look up my porn cartoons
>ai google response "that chapter does not exist. also the series finished 50 chapters ago, and the rest of the chapters have been criticized by the fanbase for being dragged out"
HOLY SHIT KILL YOURSELF WHO ASKED FOR THIS

>>109115359
Was it Beastmen Academy?

Before AI tools came into the picture, in my projects and teams, people used to share technical information, brainstorm together, and allow others to pick up important tasks. Collaboration was well balanced.
After the rise of AI tools and the post-COVID hiring wave, for the past few months I've noticed that no one wants to share information. The moment new tasks are announced, people want to pick them up, implement them quickly using AI tools, and show that they are first in the race. They don't want to share information and instead prefer to keep others dependent on them.

>>109115370
Good

>>109115117
American VP: asking Grok for possible offer improvements
Qatari PM: offering occasional suggestions, but mostly confused
Concerned Onlooker: soaking in disappointment

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>>109115367
y-yeah...

>>109115308
I had a "do goyim really" moment the other day when my coworker pointed out a lizard on the ceiling and made a joke saying thats the newest employee

>>109115393
>asking Grok for possible offer improvements
Grok: You need to pay Elon 3 trillion and he will fix this.

>>109115117
there's a vid of JD trying to get a webcam working where the output was upside down, and he physically flipped it to stand on its head to get the picture right but the software reoriented it to be upside down again lol

>>109115485
kek

>>109114558
>>109114791
This is the way my employer seems to be going too, and I'm fucking hating it.
The funny thing is that I've done nothing to help with that and I told my previous boss to let me go, but he didn't. The retards got fired a while ago and I told the new one about that expecting him to fire me, bit so far nothing has happened, most likely because they don't want to pay me severance money.
Fuck this shit.

>>109115133
>>>/g/utwg/
>>>/r/eddit

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>>109115485
I get the reason to not have the IT guy hovering over them for various reasons. But you can't tell me, not having this shit pre-setup is a bad idea right?

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>>109115549
i think it's more a policy/procedure thing and even more than that boomers thinking they have all the answers

despite all else, a formative memory from the military is still
>some womyns day event thing
>we're the only unit for miles willing to host anything ever so we host the thing
>it has to be streamed
>boomers running their show bring no equipment of their own
>boomers running our end of the show are unaware of the equipment we have
>"Well, I'm here early anyway. I'll have what little we've got set up and tested. But without a pre-stream, I can only test that our gear works, not that it'll look nice"
>the people I need to run tests with never show up until shit is already underway
>it doesn't look nice
>only reason we don't become a laughing stock is no one was watching that shit anyway (and the panelists had a sense of humor about sharing mics)

only saving grace is that i didnt get yelled at for it not being nice but it honestly felt worse that with the "hot wash-up" email chains, I had a nice giant tl;dr document about how it would cost like 50bux to actually be equipped properly and an hour of the host's time to test things and make it not all terrible, and it went ignored and "flats conversations" about it were a mix of "I didn't read that shit lol" and "I read that shit but lol thinking any of that will ever happen"

>I RUN THE FREE WORLD. I DONT NEED SOME NERD TO SHOW ME HOW TO USE A COMPUTER

>>109115524
>This is the way my employer seems to be going too, and I'm fucking hating it.
(Same)
BTW, what am I supposed to do in this situation? Just keep enduring the imposition of usage of AI tools? Stop giving a shit about anything? Or just do what I'm told? I like my job. I don't like the threat of being replaced by a glorified, nondeterministic chatbot. And it's not that I oppose them, I just don't want to give my employer any advantage over me before being laid off.

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>please set up a code review with the team for this 1 line change, I don't understand it

How many of you niggas have just started to focus on data labelling and annotation to build your in-house company Open-Claw to replace you? When did your company install a screen recording app on your computers?

>>109115698
>How many of you niggas
not a nigga
>have just started to focus on data labelling and annotation to build your in-house company Open-Claw
no
>to replace you?
they might but I'll never know
>When did your company install a screen recording app on your computers?
lol never

Try escaping, I think it's in your best interest

>>109115595
Shut the fuck up furry you never had a job and never worked a day in your life. Go be a homeless faggot somewhere else.

>>109115595
Every time I hear about the military it sounds like we overspend and everyone involved is embarrassingly dysfunctional.

>>109115698
>install a screen recording app on your computers?
I'd just read Hacker News all day until they fired me if they did that. "Here's your employee emulation data bro."

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>>109115752
It's truly a recycling place of undesirables.

The hot lore of doing it as a stepping stone is only half-true, but it's still half-true; anyone who can thrive in that sort of nonsense environment is probably okay. I know I'm not, but stolen valor and all that. And in smaller units, I've found that that sort of thing does help. I was only on the small boats, and we got to a lot less trouble but the few real missions we'd do were done better. And these were the historic "Toon Boats" full of reservists on "long-term" (2-5 year) contracts. we'd go through "Regular Force" people like candy. It makes a weird but weirdly effective force when half of it is deranged hicks and the other half are deranged mercenaries.

>got a talking to for missing another meeting
uh ohhh

>>109114558
>Proceeds to tell us company expects one-man teams to deliver projects, basically telling us there will be even more layoffs
"Ok, get the fuck out of my way and let me solve the problem without code reviews, sprint planning, infosec bullshit, and other administrative roadblocks."

I could legitimately build and OS from scratch and it would only take me a few months but at most of these places there's such a mountain of bullshit I, as part of a team, can barely manage to maintain what they have. I know this because I'm at a new company now where the entire software department is like 6 people and we *do* manage to do what your boss wants but only because there's almost no oversight or bullshit and we're allowed to actually do our job.

The productivity improvements that come from AI aren't because it actually makes you faster, it's because it tricks managers into getting the fuck out of the way.

>>109115760
They need data on what you do at work all day to train the AI that will do 99% of your tasks. It's already happening at Meta, I'm sure it's happening at every FAGMAN company as well.

>>109115816
These companies have not been remotely pleasant or interesting places to work for a while.

Literally every public company where they give employees macbooks seems the same. I swore I'd never work for one again *before* they started doing that and I have enough money now I don't think I ever will have to again.

>>109115735
how can you tell

>>109115828
Everyone who comes here even occasionally knows who you are at this point. I don't have reliable internet and work 80 hour weeks and even I know who you are now.

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I'm just a tech but I do what I have to, on or off the job. I'm the best I can be and am living my best life.

>>109115549
imho the true struggle happens when the boomers/tech illiterate are using their computers after starting up with no issues until they run into something in the middle. they don't have the familiarity and inherent computer logic to navigate these issues or understand why they popped up.
i look at the obvious propaganda shot of JD and no-chin kushner and i already know they're larping. no-one really has their laptop on their actual lap when they have a table right there. the viewing angle is uncomfortable as hell and you'll scorch your balls.

>>109115864
>>109115788
>>109115663
>>109115595
SHUT THE FUCK UP

>>109115883
>>109115549
Video calls at work are just hard.
I got pulled into a support call the other week, I've never once used teams, let alone on Linux, I don't have my headphones paired with my laptop since I never listen to music on my work laptop.

I didn't think to test any of this before hand which was stupid. As soon as the call started I realized I made a mistake and ran out of the cube farm into my boss's office (thankfully he was on vacation so I could shut the door and take the call in there) while I fiddled with bluetoothctl/pulseaudio trying to get my headphones to work.

I didn't realize how unusable that is in an office with like 40 bluetooth devices.

/twg/ - struggling to do videocalls

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>>109115929
>on Force Protection
>"There's a helicopter here. Sorry, I missed it. It's in a hover behind us now. Obviously friendly. Can someone tell me whose it is?"

>"There's a helicopter!?"

I'm done with being employed. Commercial software is soulless and anxiety inducing. Thankfully my contract ends next month, no more webdev...

>>109115595
>>109115788
>>109115864
>>109115948
Please mods just ban this insufferable unemployed furfag already.
Nobody cares about your fucking fetish.

>>109115442
i mean that’s pretty funny, lighten up anon

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>>109115967
I'm just a tech.

>>109115983
You're unemployed and brown.
Just take your retarded fetish somewhere else.

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>>109115987
Believe what you want. I just hope you believe in Victory.

>>109115908
Why did you @ me with the plane troon

>>109115913
once you've used one of them you pretty much create a mental checklist for all of them
i set the audio up for gaming on steam so when i first had to use discord and zoom for the first time i already knew what to look for and what settings i needed

>>109115913
I get it from personal experience. like the other anon it is best to build a checklist since some of these devices are funky.

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working up the MP to hit myself with Bravery and Faith

working up the actual bravery and faith to work myself up enough to engage doomed projects in the pursuit of a working system for clients brave enough i have faith in

I'm starting a new job soon where the culture is extremely anti-AI, and I'm finding it hard to kick the habit after delegating pretty much everything to codex/claude/copilot for months.
Starting to panic a little.

>>109116035
meds, furnigger

>>109116063
Why would I do that? My life is pretty okay now, and I've led a charmed life. It's not even as storied as my coworkers.

>>109115370
began noticing this as well, two guys on our team hog all of the AI-related work for themselves. one of them has started hogging bugs so he can quickly solve them with AI (something I've been doing for months at this point, but I don't tell the entire team to send me every bug we get). It's honestly made me consider swapping jobs to something more AI-focused because I don't want to have to deal with these people who are clearly late to the AI party and trying to make up for it by hogging work. having to play politics to get work done more quickly is not fun

>>109116055
why swap? AI is clearly going to continue to become bigger and bigger, you don't feel you are harming your future by choosing a company that purposely chooses to not empower you?

>>109116097
This, AI is the future. It won't be like blockchain at all.

>>109116114
do people in this thread actually work in the tech industry? AI is being used NOW to perform engineering tasks. The question isn't whether AI is viable in real-world scenarios, it's to what extent and at what cost

>>109116135
Yes, AI is a useful tool. No, AI won't make most software engineering jobs redundant.
Most people who still believe AI can do the job of an engineer are chronically unemployed. I'm a software engineer and coding is MAYBE 10% of my daily work.

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>>109116135
if AI is so great why hasn't it solved my specific problems

>>109116161
Just stop shitting up threads.

>>109116161
Because you don't have a job you stupid nigger furfaggot.

>>109116168
No.

>>109116161
You're brown.

>>109116161
Kill Yourself

>>109116135
AI can't even work for customer service. Why would it even be good for engineering tasks when you have to babysit it all the time?

>>109115133
time in the market beats timing the market

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Any ai certificates that would be useful for IT? Are Nvidia certs useful?

>>109116560
For IT no. Consider cloud certs seriously.

>>109116135
Yees it is the age of the agentic E = MC^2 + AI and sirs should not do the concern with the codings anymore. The spaghetti slop bug whackamole and rocket emoji yess sir hmm?

you ever get workmates who just can't seem to stop talking? Had someone call me for an answer, swear to God he repeated his question three times before pausing to let me answer

>>109116428
what about time beating off the market

>>109116945
Some people learn to be as long winded as possible to survive meetings (when they don't actually do anything)
Its especially apparent during daily standups

>>109116945
maybe a bit of what other anon said but also some people just don't have internal dialogue so they have to say their thoughts out loud to really process them. its very clear when you are dealing one of these types because they kinda just talk at you but are really just talking to themselves

>>109116097
This job is really good in other aspects including pay.
But also it's just been my experience that switching to using agents doesn't require much time or onboarding, all this crap about "prompt engineering" is worthless I think.
As long as you can review code and you're diligent about checking what the agent is doing, you're good, so you can jump back anytime.
I might still use AI in my personal projects anyway.

>>109116729
what about for dev?

>>109116987
the most well spoken dev in my team barely knows how to make a crud app

My assumption for the future is that companies will eventually realize agentic tools only make slop and for big projects more human oversight is needed. Am I wrong and coping? It seems like no one cares about the insane amount of trash code being produced that no one understands. Is this really the new way of doing things? I hate this shit it took all the fun out of software development

>>109115117
In OP's picture, why does the vice president's laptop have a card sticking out the side with a picture of a woman's face?
If it were some form of secure login to use the computer, wouldn't it be *his* picture?

>>109117304
did everyone really switch to agentic bullshit? my company and others here didn't yet and yet everyone's on the internet talking as if it's the norm. Is it all astroturfing?

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>>109117229
Most Dev's, Programmers, Coders benefit from Server Admin Certs, Linux Certs, Cloud Certs. AI certs as it stands right now is a meme.

>>109117377
Are you sure about that? The only time I ever managed to use a cert was for my first job and only my cloud certs mattered, in fact only my SA

>>109115133
just applied to a job at another company that's the same role as my current one, also know someone that works at that company who said he'd send my name into the recruitment office to help me get through the filters. He tried helping with some other jobs but those were not too similar to what I do now so it makes sense I didnt get them. Insanely hyped to potentially get a new job. Already have a ton saved to buy a house but if I can get my salary up from 71k to 85k which is about the middle of the range they gave I could save so much more and afford a slightly more expensive house. Nothing is guaranteed but I am so beyond hyped

>apply to job that pays 30k more in a small company
>interview goes well
>director says he is going on vacation and will contact succesful candidates after he comes back
>1 month passes, forget about them
>they email me calling me for the round with the ceo
>do well, ceo says he will let me know later if I was picked or not
>another month passes, forget about them again
>ceo emails me asking if I know how to make apps for windows store and thanks me for sticking around during the process
Am I being memed?

>>109117406
more likely scenario: they went with someone else, didn't work out, and now are considering you again

cant wait for boomers to die so news channels finally go out of business and we get all tvs removed from gyms

>>109117406
>>109117413
desu sometimes these processes just move slow as fuck, especially during the summer because of people going on vacations and shit

i wouldn't look that much into it. it's the same as if they were super fast about it: none of it matters until you put your name on a piece of paper and have a successful first day at work. then you can stop applying

>>109117413
>>109117406
Working for a small business (<40 employees) in a boomer industry, sometimes they're just slow and forgetful. My hiring process took a couple months, thought they had ghosted me when they eventually called me back and asked when I could start. After working here for a couple years it is in fact just routine of them to drag their heels/forget/put off doing pretty much anything. It's a very chill environment at least.

>>109117423
my gym only plays ads

>>109117413
my current job was my first out of college and I applied got a call asking some basic questions about my experience, a few days later got a call asking for an in person interview went to it did well then a few weeks later was extended a job offer I accepted and was told id be told my start date then it took literal weeks for them to tell me my start date and once they finally did it was two weeks out. So I can definitely see it taking a while to go through the interview process at a smaller company

>>109117377
what's a good linux cert that isnt super expensive? thought about doing one but was told it wouldnt be too helpful online but I have a bit of disposable income and would like to add to my resume

>>109117304
Companies, in principle, don't care about how bad the codebase is if it works. They'll only start giving a fuck when even AI can't solve the problem anymore.

>>109117669
Redhat is great. Linux+ from comptia is just coping but decent. Not much for linux really. Get Azure/AWS.

>>109117708
want to get azure but my company is currently putting in plans to migrate to azure so Im hoping theyd pay for those certs. but honestly might just do it anyway since im pretty sure they arent too expensive and I accidentally bought a year of codecademy and they have prep courses for those certs

>>109117696
but then it's too late at that point. Codebase is a convoluted mess, neither ai nor senior devs can figure out some wierd concurrency bug or whatever. Surely corpos that once experienced outsourcing to india know how it goes.
It's like we forgot everything we know about softdev just to hit those le velocity goals

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>accepted an offer for a gov job
>they told me it's going to be like 35-40 business days before the offer is final and I get a start date
>receive an update once, maybe twice a week requesting documents or telling me they're still working on it
and in the meanwhile im stuck in my absolute living hell of a "job" and I cant tell anyone to fuck off yet or quit and neet all day

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All mouth-breather colleagues keep getting promoted while I'm still considered "Jr" by the company's standards even though I've been there for 6 years
They still give me raises but they refuse to upgrade my title
What's up with that?

>>109118111
youre a mediocre replaceable uncllennial

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amaze, amaze
a room full of brilliants

>>109118121
Everyone is mediocre at my workplace

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>interviewing with my 3rd team at apple
guess I can just keep doing this forever until I lose my sanity

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>>109118266
20% apple cuts before October. AI failed, Apple Failed, Nvidia/AMD won.

>>109118307
apple isn't going hard into AI though and 90% of the jobs im applying to are for shit that actually works and makes money like macos software or existing ios teams not related to siri or apple intelligence

>>109115133
I applied for about 100 jobs over 2 months and got interviews from maybe 10. So around 10%, but for in person jobs it was closer to 50% called back. I don't think that's that bad. This was March to May. Yes everything had 100+ applications, but I guarantee there's tons of crap applications that don't fit the bill at all. I think people have worked themselves up too much honestly.

>>109118111
either leadership is very incompetent or you. I went to senior from regular in something like 6 months in my company lol. skill/iq/whatever issue

>>109118316
You are not going to make it despite Apple being a 2# priority TSMC partner they have still had to deal with rising hardware costs. Even the dominance at China is waning due to chink economic deflation. A lot of things are pointing to a slow decline if not major cuts towards apple personnel. The economy has been in a rolling recession since 2022.

>>109118356
It's about office politics and leadership being incompetent, if I was really that incompetent I would've been fired a long time ago
I refuse to play their games
Guess it's time to start looking for another job

Linkedin easy apply is a fucking scam
The only times I got an interview was after messaging the recruiter directly
What's the point of easy apply?

>>109118363
lalalalalalalaaa i cant hear u!!! too busy studying and learning and applying and interviewing!!!!

>>109118370
>if I was really that incompetent I would've been fired a long time ago
in dysfunctional enough organizations useless people sometimes survive years, even decades. I remember in one company my friend worked at they fired one guy for utter incompetence. (some new hire noticed he's a retard and snitched). He did stuff like query entire large database table in backend and filter it in client side without understanding wtf is wrong (just one of examles). This guy, mind you,worked close to a decade in that company (7-8 years)

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>>109118417

>>109118491
>nipples not even protudring
very low quality

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>amazon job application form specifically requests you to fill in your education
>list no degree
>get called back and asked to schedule an interview
>"can we also have your grade sheet"
>"just fyi I don't have a degree"
>rejection call 3 days later
I'm supposed to code LRU cache in 1 hour yet these HR bitches can't even read english

>>109118491
boobies!!!!

>>109118516
LRU cache is easy though when i interviewed with jeetmazon they asked me a DP + prefix sums hard... i fucking deal with frameworks and UIs and network calls all day cut the bullshit!

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A new group of coworkers just joined...they are all indians. Send help

>>109118802
do you look like the cartoon female humanoid in your picture?

>>109118835
no

>bosses are mandating we use teams and viva engage over slack
>viva engage is a fucking ghost town 3 months in
Fuck microslop.

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>mfw someone is reading this thread right now who is studying computer science and not changing his major even though he knows it wont get him a job

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Drip.
I've got CKAD/CKA already and am studying for CKS. I guess I will get the baby certs too. It actually makes financial sense, I get a 50% off coupon

>>109118923
its going to get me a job though because I love computers and have passion in my heart

>>109118962
my judgment shouldnt be mistaken as directed at those with PASSION. if you have PASSION you are going to get any job you want. there's nothing more valuable in the world than a student with passion. the interviewer is going to leap out of his chair in utter disbelief that they finally found the right candidate.
they're going to have literally 100+ applicants with multiple yoe in the exact stack his company uses. but they're going to take one look at a guy with PASSION and go "you are the man for the job."

I got contacted by the engineering product manager for a role requiring 1-2 years of experience, yet I'm a new graduate w/o any internship experience. Is it safe to say that the company is desperate for fresh blood? I didn't even have to talk to HR, I'm going straight to a technical, panel interview. It's also my first time doing such an interview, so any advice?

>>109118948
benchod

>>109118948
aren't those certs a meme? are you it or sumthin?

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How do I get better at bringing value to meetings? I'm bad at filling my role in both internal and external meetings where I simply don't really ask or answer questions.
The truth is that I just don't feel good enough at my job to fill that role despite having plenty of experience.
But I'm pretty sure that I've seen people fake it. Like I haven't approached them about it but I almost imagine that they just follow a flowchart when having external meetings.
I unironically think that if I get better at this then I'll see promotions more rapidly as it is the most obvious way to bring value.

>>109119108
CKAD/CKA/CKS are probably some of the most impactful certs

I have a job offer that's willing to give me a Secret clearance, and they'll train me to get PL-200, PL-400, and MB-230 certifications. Is it worth it? I was under the impression that shit like this, pega, salesforce, etc were bottom of the barrel tech jobs. I don't know how well these certs, or whatever I'd be doing, would transfer to another job.

>>109118111
You are too competent. Only the lower demonstrators get promoted to managers.
The saying I've always heard is "those that can't, promote." They can't promote the people who are actually capable of doing the work, they need them to do the actual work.

>>109119367
>is free certs and training worth it
How could it not be?

>>109119340
NTA, but for developers? I'm thinking of taking some certs but I'm scared of doing something that will be a waste of time, I'm in an entry level position 1 YOE.

>>109118516
I'm in hw so coding a cache actually makes sense. How do you code a cache in SW, just make a simulation?

>>109119468
Sure, but how useful are they in general? Seems like I'd be pigeonholing myself into being a power platform dev forever.

>>109118516
Welcome to the club. I work at a F500 and my boss with 8 YOE and a Masters doesn't know how to use Python, but will tell you he can make *insert big software deal* in a day if he tried.

>>109119524
Why?

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>>109119505
You have no experience, any upskilling you do will not be a waste of time

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Serious post:

I just woke up from a coma I went into during Covid. I graduated in 2020 with a bach in CS and have zero experience. I've sent out a few dozen resumes on glassdoor and indeed and have been ghosted by every single one of them. I've lied a little about experience but I really hate it.

I did an online leetcode thing for an IBM application and I was also ghosted and that's all that has happened in months.

What's happening? Do I just never a job because of my years long resume gap?

>>109119722
Yea

>>109119722
If you're in a big competitive city... Be willing to apply for jobs in smaller towns.

>>109119756
I'm applying in NYC. Are there really more SWE jobs in nowheresville than one of the economic capitols of the world?

>>109119772
I don't know about more but the "skill ceiling" is lower.

>>109119772
Why would I hire some flameout who didn't work for six years and has shown he doesn't want to work when I could hire one of the hundreds of thousands of passionate new grads

>>109119832
that's what I'm thinking but I was literally in a coma and was medically incapacitated. I put
>2020-2025: coma
on my resume but it's not working.

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>interview scheduled
>interviewer: krishna

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>>109119908
looking forward to your next 'i got rejected' blog

>>109120198
me on the left

>>109120209
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Df3dZrFifS0

>>109119864
Oh I thought you were just memeing and meant you were neeting. Idk, I wouldn't put it that way, I'd probably hide it desu, someone might be worried you have brain damage. Just because they aren't supposed to discriminate doesn't mean they wont

>>109119908
>interviewer: krishna
it's over....

>>109115842
You don't know who I am, shut up schizo

I have been in this company for 3 months, have 3 apps 70% done, I am very popular in the company because of my work speed and quality, only my boss and I are technical. Got an offer for 40k more, do I leave?

>>109120419
right so I just pretend i was a NEET but like you said doesn't that actually get my resume thrown in the trash? I have a five year gap

>>109120682
of course
and next time, don't work so hard or else you're going to set their expectations too high

So am I going to have to do live coding interviews where I prove that I know every single framework / library in existence for the rest of my life, every time I want to get a job, no matter how much experience I have?

>>109120695
anon you weren't in a coma, people who go into comas for more than 1 year have permanent brain damage

>>109120750
My interviews are mostly talking about previous work and projects. 3 yoe

>>109118923
/g/ has had demoralization threads since 2016 even during the hiring frenzy of covid. 4 years is a long time. Who’s to say it won’t get better? I’m not going to work 16 hour days year round in some subhuman trade

>>109120764
yeah but have you actually ever worked at a company that people know about? there's horror stories on twitter of people with masters degrees and 10 yoe getting put through leetcode hards by anthropic.

>>109120774
I mean I'm satisfied earning 130k for now, and I know people in my company earning 250k, I'm probably only ever leaving here to found my own company or something.

>>109117931
In the mind of the leaders driving these decisions, that’s somebody else’s problem because they’ll be out of there before then

>>109120782
and that's the right mindset, the only thing you should be thinking about is money and calculating the moves to make more money and lose less

>>109120753
i do have permanent brain damage and it took my a year to relearn to walk, but I'm still more competent than an indian

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>meeting with Indian manager
>"You're latino, anon. I'm sure you must love soccer."
>reply "Yeah, I love soccer!"
>think to myself "No, I don't. Just because I'm latino does that mean I should like soccer? Does that mean you love cricket just because you're Indian?"
>almost as if he read my mind he replied "I love cricket"
HELLO????
Do Brahmin's actually have mind reading powers?

>>109120842
You actually play along? I normally just say I'm not a fan, and then they insist that is impossible since I have latino blood in my veins, in which point I say I can get them in touch with my father as he loves it and then they stop talking.

>>109120837
>hasn't been around supposedly for six years
>thinks Indians are incompetent
Sus.

>>109120861
curryware has been the bane of the industry since the 90s

>>109120842
ABLOO BLOO SOMEONE ASKED ABOUT MY HOBBIES AHHHHHHH IT'S RACIST WAHHHH WAHHHH WAHHHH.
nobody cares beaner, not fix my broken keyboard

>>109116055
Can we swap jobs? My manager accidentally let it slip that company lost so much money and leadership is going to force one man teams with 100% AI generated code, which to me screams "mass layoffs"

>>109120872
You're indian

>>109121064
No, I'm white, Pablo. White white, not brahmin white

>>109116055
What company? I might want to work there. All this LLM shit makes me anxious because it's just autocomplete and it gets things wrong constantly but midwits think it's magic.

>>109119832
the passionate new grads don't know shit from shinola. they're all sitting at the early peak of the dunning-kreuger graph

>>109121161
Post hand

>>109121171
post your penis, bet it's circumcised

>>109120766
cs as a major is filled to the brim with people like you, who are perfectly average but view all sorts of professions as beneath them.
lazy unenthusiastic tech stimulation addict takes up the worst possible degree knowing it wont get him anywhere with a career or job, but is still somehow smug about it. it's impressive how many exact clones of this there are.
be sure to have that same attitude when you're working in a miserable position in retail or food service, still thinking you're above it somehow.

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>only programmer at a company of ~50 people
>owner has fallen in love with AI
>starts proompting things into existence instead of asking me to make them

why do unemployed people even bother posting here posting all these sort of immature things when we already have a job... why are you trying to demoralize people that already made it

>>109121237
Probably just salty neets... or actual shills, when i look how much those ai corpos spent on marketing, dedicating some jeet team or whatever on each tech related website wouldn't be too much out of field

>>109121204
seething tradie? why are you on /g/?

>>109121325
seething tech worker giving free advice to this mass produced human that posts in every twg thread

Should I rto at a new job for a 25% bump and decent bonus? Idk bros, I'm so comfy. It seems like growth but maybe I should wait and find something remote and a step up. I can't imagine going back to being stuck in an office for 40+ hours a weeks even though the product seems interesting

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My company just told everyone they are scaling back on Co-Pilot jej. I guess fucking tokens are getting too expensive LMFAO.

Does this mean my Job is safe, i'm in finance not IT.

>>109121801
what did you even use ai on there lol

>>109121808
some workflows, although I think RPMs did a better job. I use it to skim contracts and leases, also to do research.

I guess also to make complicated formulas in excel but I was already good at that stuff. Anyways they're letting me go to a conference, so that pretty cool. gotta do a write-up on the A.I and tech stuff on the software we use.

>Mandatory Hackathon
Life imitates art

i've to speak to 100+ engineers tomorrow
tips to avoid spilling spaghetti? i'm kinda worried a smart aleck tries to pull something funny during the q&a

>>109122326
>I've to speak
Hello saar! Best to be wishes on you're butiful speech

>>109115117
>Not just
>Not just
Screenshots of ai posts should be banable

>>109118506
Damn, I was about to saving it.
Thanks bro.

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>LLMs are actually useless on the hard parts of the project that require documentation rather than a snippet pulled from github
>LLM fails badly and starts pulling snippets from bug reports and suggestions
Clearly if a llm can do your code, then you were useless human-to-code transpiler not a real programmer.

>anon, please review anon's PR, it's been ready for a week
>yes mrs. big titty project manager, anything you ask
>open PR
>35k lines added/20k lines removed
AI was a mistake

>>109122326
in my experience, even if you're a decent speaker, most people will only be half listening and you'll be lucky if even one person bothers asking a question

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My career is going to top out at one-above-junior because I'm not "stable"/"mature"/other euphemism for having a foid

and that's okay

>>109122705
My career is going to top out at mid-level dev too because I simply do not want to take more responsibility in something I have little interest in

>>109122528
>claude, review this PR
>gemini, review claude's pr review
>chatgpt, write me some smut
wow, so hard

>>109122903
i hope you get laid off

>>109123005
Quaking in my boots rn. Hope you didn't hit me with the jamacian voodoo spell that makes me lose my job or the hindu penis spell that makes my dick fall off in the office and trans out instantly
I can't believe you would curse at a random anonymouse that may have 5 kids and a wife that needs financial support. Please don't do it again

>>109123005
I hope you get laid

>>109123031
im a girl and i have

>>109123034
Oh, so you casted the hindu penis spell on yourself. My condolences

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>>109120842
>Does that mean you love cricket just because you're Indian?"
They actually do though, I've been to India and can confirm

>>109123102
Thats like going to japan or cuba and asking the locals if they like baseball

>>109123102
>first week of new job
>indian scrum master is talking about how on his first class flights to india he always sees famous cricket players

>>109123034
ywnbaw

>>109116055
I wouldn't work at a place that doesn't let people use AI.

Means either their employees are retarded, or their executive team are retarded.

>>109116135
Yes. AI just means employers expect 10x out of you now.

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I only use about 5% of my brainpower at my job

I'm not just sick of this—I'm exhausted. Farewell.

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>>109115117
i'd kick kushner the fuck out of any meeting he had the audacity to show up to

>>109116055
Unless it's cushy af and pays a lot, I wouldn't be at a company not using AI right.
Moving way too fast. You can tell yourself you'll keep up outside of work, but I've never been one to keep up with side projects and stuff in addition to working a full time job.

>>109115370
Nah, it's place to place depending on office environment.
Some people are just weasily and can't work as a team. Personally, I wouldn't want to stick around an environment like that.

>>109123405
I use the other 95%, I installed a brain miner when you were asleep

>>109123417
you would do nothing but rage impotently like the lowly dev you are

Every time I complain about something all my boss says is "Welcome to development!", I wanna quit so badly.

>>109117406
Nah, things come up, people get busy. Sometimes the decision over really hiring someone is uncertain on their end so things get dragged out. I've gotten calls told I got a job a month after an interview before.

>>109123595
Nobody likes a negative Nancy. Be positive (or else)

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My manager is clearly going to hire a jeet as my sole local colleague and there’s nothing I can do about it

I'm setting up my work-from-home office now that I've got a new job, any recommendations on monitors, keyboards, headsets and mouse for general office use? I want to put one of the monitors in vertical, so 1440p is the minimum resolution I'd want to run with. Thinking a pair of Philips 27B2N3500J or Dell E2726DS would be suitable, and a Keychron V6 or Nuphy Node 100 for the keyboard. G502 for the mouse because the scroll wheel is muscle memory for me at this point.

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>>109123595
Welcome to tech it ain't easy. Offer solutions or shut the fuck up.

Does hiring in Europe really slow down in summer time? I seen less jobs posted nowadays and its all vague bullshit. Shit is hard getting into the industry.....

>>109119510
nta why do you even have a job if you never heard of lru cache?

>>109119722
dozen isnt enough you need more applications. Also anon is right small towns better yet government jobs. Do some meme tier jobs that pay shit but at least its something. I went through a decade of neetdom until I got my degree it was hard to get a job at the start of the year.
From my experience you dont want a female recruiter those look at the dates and instant filter you. Idk if you have them in the US but temp agency helped me I got a male recruiter mildly interested in my cv and asked him for all kinds of related work and he actually helped me out. Compare that to the women who just instantly reject you because muh gap. I had one sitting in the cafeteria eating her fucking salad and telling me yeah apply on the website. Retarded shit.

>it's only wednesday
how is time real bro FUCK

why is there a mexican with a leaf blower and reflecting vest blowing leaves outside of a mcdonalds at 5:30 am
who the fuck is hiring all of these mexicans for these bullshit jobs?

>>109123875
fuck you gora

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this (fake) experiment lives rent free in my head

Got complimented by some jeet today
Sycophant freaks

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how do I make money in tech without having to deal with "anurag" or "vanush"

>>109115140
Need a jew to watch the goyim

>>109124257
>*blush*
It's just professionalism.

Terman's longitudinal study of gifted children found that by midlife, many of the highest-IQ subjects had "underperformed" by status metrics, while moderately less exceptional peers had risen higher. The differentiator wasn't intelligence but personality variables like persistence, ambition, and social confidence.

>>109124375
If you're exceptional enough you won't encounter them

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>AMD pushes out an update for its software
>Complete failure doesn't even fucking load due to realtek incompatibility
>Fuck it roll back and now its working
Holy shit why won't programmers actually test their software before deployment.

>>109124795
No time, gotta push in time to meet the sprint goal

>>109124795
Brother I've been in QA for 15 years now and it's only ever been a losing battle for advocating for testing time.
I'm working on this crackpot thesis that agile killed any desire for products to actually work well.
Minimal viable product can eat my shorts.

>>109124688

The "gifted" tend to be on some kind of neurodivergence scale and struggle to relate to and interface with the mass of midwits that make up normal corporate America. Meanwhile the "accelerated" (115-125 IQ), are both smart enough to thrive in that environment while also normal/personable enough to interface with and network with true midwits.

>>109124869
>"accelerated" (115-125 IQ)
That is midwit category anon.

>>109124880
im curious where the people that say stuff like this see themselves scoring on an iq test.
>95th percentile? heh, thats midwit territory. im a 160 iq genius because i read about jews on pol.

>>109123935
In US it slows during OCT-DEC. Euroland might have regional economies to deal with more so than the US.

>>109124959
Based HH 1488

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>>109124959
Considering i see people who would score 140 easily on a IQ test work in IT instead of Tech where the pay rate is 3-4x that of an IT monkey. It makes me think that IQ isn't all there is to the equation.

>>109124989
i would crowd fund one of your dumbass friends taking a proper iq test to see the expression on his face when he scores something completely ordinary.

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>>109125006
Would be hilarious it makes me doubt it entirely when they talk about high SAT/ACT/ASVAB scores like it makes them better than anyone else. Which is double funny since I and 3 others have GED's with degrees and ended up in the same place. IT is easy if you like to read and solve problems. We are more analogous to mechanics at the end of the day.

>>109124989
I don't think I've ever met an IT guy with above room temp IQ.

>>109115117
>Not just X, but y

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Claude literally made my work 5x faster, we're either cooked or we are the first generation of devs to coast through life.

>>109121217
I think you're safe, anon. My boomer boss is afraid of firing me because it's always good to keep one dev in case the AI fucks up or if he needs something that requires actual engineering.

>>109124795
why should they? you can't force them to do shit anyway. they completely own you.

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You guys ever feel guilty not asking for more work? For example im a reallly fast worker. My boss gives me tasks, but I end up completing them way faster so I end up just watching youtube vids or playing vidya.

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>>109125152
b-but my 1000$ i spent on the 7900XTX anon.

>>109125153
yes. but I stopped caring when I hear leadershit waffle on sanity for 1000x time, then I go back to not giving a fuck and moving on.

>>109117406
>>109117413
Happened to me, except it took 6 months for them to contact me again, now I'm 3 years in the company. Should've chose me from the start, boomers.

>>109125159
yep. and then my desktop crashes because the slop AMDGPU driver is full of memory bugs. Nothing we can do about it but seethe. Last time I tried fixing it, it's just total slop. Also reminded me why C is a shit programming language when you see shit like SOME_AMD_STRUCT_ARRAY_FOREACH() macro for the 10th time.

whatever. tech is a disaster.

>>109125153
I used to be the same when I first started, then my boss asked me to slow down because they were running out of work to give me, so now I take weeks to complete the simplest tasks and spend my time doing fuck all and everyone is happy for it

>>109119722
silksong came out

>>109118099
lmao
but think of it this way
if it's that slow to get some bullshit paperwork done on there end, you're gonna have some very comfy 4chan browsing all day at this new gig. You will probably never need to do work there

>>109125133
He did sign me up for my own claude subscription so that's good. But I'm worried he's going to start wondering whether someone with less skills than me plus AI can do my job for less money.

>>109118099
I worked as a government contract once, and I did nothing for a year. When it came around for annual reviews, I hopped because I had nothing to say for myself and figured I was going to get fired in less than a year anyways
I don't think gov jobs are good if you have anxiety over needing to do something

>just need to get some shit merged that's been nagging me for months
>build fails for no reason because some artifact I didn't touch isn't there anymore
>have to update my PR because of shit I didn't even do
I fucking hate software sometimes man. I just want to get this shit out of my fucking way.

>>109125728
im not a tech worker right now and i cant turn down this offer because theyre paying me well, its one of the largest and most recognized federal departments, and no one else is offering anything.

Hey guys, i applied to a remote IT gig on linkedin for a company called firstup.io, a day later a HR person reached out on linkedin messages and told me to send my resume to an HR email address for a company called capital model, I've since gotten a job offer from capital model (not firstup) in response, but it feels like a scam, it's offering 50 bucks an hour (which seems egregious). this is a scam right? Anyone have any experience with this kind of thing? thanks.

>>109125888
you can't be this retarded.

>can this be fixed today?
of course not. how on earth do you think things work?

>>109125897
maybe i am?

>>109125025
to be fair ive heard SAT scores and IQ are moderately to highly correlated. the ASVAB is also supposed to be correlated with IQ.
if they didnt score 99th percentile on those they really cant be going around flexing about how smart they are though. thats sad as shit. uncle ricos talking about how they could have made state championships in highschool if they got put in in that final quarter.
the average IQ for a dev and IT are probably not notably different at all. a third of the entire industry is indians. the idea that they are coming from a country where the average is 70 and all outperforming STEM university graduates (estimated 110) seems very unlikely. it would be interesting if somebody actually did a study on indian h1b average IQ. it wouldnt be surprising if it were lower than 100.

>>109126003
My parents made me take a proctored IQ test when I was in school, I'm 147 (dad is 164). I summarily did absolutely nothing with that IQ, absolute lazy bum. I fucked around and partied/did lots of drugs in my 20s, went to community college when I was 30, then got a job in IT after that and continue to do sweet fuck all
this is not a brag about my IQ, but a note that IQ doesn't equate to being a high earner or going on to do great things in life. motivation and drive matter. lots of my very stupid friends went on to be quite well off by virtue of actually doing something with their lives from the outset

Program is lean, agile, and trying to establish value
->
Program establishes value
>
Useless people get added and reduce value
->
Layoffs
->
Rinse and repeat

It's all so tiresome

>>109123959
>temp agency helped me I got a male recruiter mildly interested in my cv and asked him for all kinds of related work and he actually helped me out
Explain more about this. Temp agencies around here are just warehouse jobs.

>>109126003
IQ is probably variable anyways, i feel like i started out really smart, got dumb, then got smart again depending on how my life circumstances were and how hard i was locked in

>>109126192
they asked for 20% of my wage for my first year

>>109126223
Sure, but is it just luck to find an actually relevant job?

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So my boss/CEO has come up with some new nonsense to avoid doing his job and writing a proper PRD.
His idea is to vibe-code a prototype, hand that prototype off to the developers, and then have the developers use it to create the PRD before building the final product.
So far, I'm the only person at work who thinks this approach is completely absurd.

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>>109125159
I have a 7900xt and you can pry it from my cold dead hands. fuckin' love it

Honestly, if I end up in a senior position as a developer, then I will consider that to be the height of my career and not really try to go higher since that means sacrificing time with love ones and will require becoming a back stabber of some sort on top of it.

>>109126256
it's completely based though. clean it up, wagie.

>>109126256
this is pretty much endemic in many companies now lol

>coworker has a massive stutter
>slurs his sentences every 3-5 words
>STILL enjoys talking and wont shut up
how are normies real dude

>>109120842
But do you like tacos and burritos? What about oversized sombreros, mustaches and the desert?

>>109123935
I'm getting spammed on linkedin right now. 5YOE.

the more I study and work the more retarded I feel. I can sense my brain deteriorating. I can't tell if it's the stress or sleep deprivation or if I have some neurological issue. This is torture.

>>109125153
If I were to work faster it would stress out my poor POs who can't keep up with refining new tickets.

>>109126110
ive heard this is true, theres supposed to be only a slight or mild correlation of income and IQ.
how old were you when you took the test? ive also heard that IQ testing in young children is not very accurate for estimating adult iq. the results of something like the minnesota transracial adoption studies seems like it would verify that. the childhood iq was normal in the white parents with adopted black kids, but by 17 is reverted to the average for blacks.

>>109126219
it is relatively variable. supposedly the results are more stable than you would think. it is trainable by most people for like +10 points. i dont have any formal training in the topic, ive only read about it a tiny bit. its an interesting topic because so many people have aggressive opinions on it. the heritability of intelligence and racial averages is the most taboo topic in modern academia by far.

>>109126351
A coworker of mine is an absolute schizo and makes no sense when talking. Imagine grabbing a book and removing the last three or four words from every sentence. That's how he talks,

>>109126608
Fairly young, 11 or 12. I haven't retested since and naturally I don't trust the scam online IQ tests to bother rechecking. In any case even if my IQ didn't regress it made no real positive impact on the outcome of my life

My company wants to hire a fractional CTO, thoughts?

Question for Americans. Assuming I want to complete a 100% online MSc in CS and I already have a BSc in CS from another country, which uni should I choose? Preferably one that's easy, moderately cheap and doesn't have strict requirements about grades.

>>109126706
Western governors

>>109126833
thanks mate

>>109126706
Go back to india

>>109126892
I am residing and working in Europe and merely wanted an easy American uni to get my master's degree from.

>>109126964
>residing and living in
go back to india

>>109127007
I have orange skin, saar.

>>109126964
Paki

>>109127035
If I was Paki I would complain to the British government for not providing me with a white loli to groom.

>>109124795
> >AMD
Check their repos and you will find the reason, esp. the "authors" fields

>Final interview with CTO
>Tell them I want between 100-110
>Get offer today
>90k
What is this about? Can someone help me it is my first job out of college and I'm not sure if its a misunderstanding or normal or I'm being played.

>>109127163
Accept the job with the understanding that you'll apply elsewhere in the coming year.