Thoughts on Midea PortaSplit? It's like a mini-split, except that it doesn't require drilling a hole, and uses this hose(?) instead that is put through the window, the installation bracket for the outdoor unit doesn't require drilling either. Plus it's actually designed for euro windows first and foremost it seems, they're selling in primarily in the EU right now, not in the US.Either way, what's the best alternative for a proper mini-split if you're not allowed to drill a hole and you don't have dual-hose portable units in your country?
>>109125919what route does that cable take?where does the outside unit sit?is that a phone app to control it? stay the fuck away then
>>109125919Installation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aoyhXx2DuQSealing the window from outside air: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDCFIhdQt-8>>109125934>what route does that cable take?Through the window, as I said>where does the outside unit sit?Outside, near the window>is that a phone app to control it?Not required for usage, the buttons are on the indoor unit
>>109125919Unrelated but if the recent trend of heatwaves had hit a few decades earlier the japs would be making bank, they pioneered minisplits.Now people just buy chinkshit because it's cheaper.
>>109125919/pol/ has this shill thread also
>>109126001I mean I found out about the PortaSplit because I got it shilled to me on the basis that it's good if you're not allowed to drill a hole and want it to be quieter than a typical portable AC in the first place
>>109125919Anyway the refrigerant pipe are normally made of copper, with this unit I guess it's made of some kinda plastic, that's probably the only real weakpoint, possible refrigerant leak from degradation.
>>109125919I have a daikin split unit in my commie block flat, the condenser is sitting in my balcony and even with all the (tripple pane) windows closed I can still hear it operating from inside the room, and it's even more noticeable at night.The selling point of that midea is that it's quieter than a traditional portable ac, but you still gonna have to keep your window/door open and the condenser will make noise. I also had a portable trotec 2.1 kw ac unit and it on the coldest setting (16c) it was as loud as a regular fan. Op, I think this midea is more of a marketing trick, just get a regular portable ac with a hose.
>>109126021>I got it shilled to medoubtful? which website did you download that pic with that specific filename? likely it was given to you in your shill package. i assume your response here will be for us to believe that you manually named the fileidrc about this but you should feel bad for doing this for compensation
>>109126037i run TWO portable ACs next to each other and currently sit very near it, yeah it makes loud noise so what? I even run my PC on 100% fan speed so it is the coolest while gaming and i can overclock to MAX. I was born in noise, molded by it. And actually it feels weird when there is quiet, you can hear birds singing and cars going by...
>>109126037>just get a regular portable ac with a hoseBut don't they suck? We don't have dual-hose in my country it seems>>109126061>which websitehttps://www.aircondirect.co.uk/p/2078850/midea-portasplit8k-8000-btu-mobile-split-air-conditioner-a-energy-efficient-smart-app-control-quiet-39-db>manually namedYou can choose any name for an uploaded file in 4chan X by just changing it in the selected file input box, which I always do
>>109126112just make it dualhose, you will need second hose and some duct tape.. i did the same thing.. it did not completely got rid of the underpressure, but reduced it significantly
>>109126112>But don't they suck?nta, but yes, they suck ass and consume a ton of power
>>109125919R32 refrigerant is getting banned/phased out starting next year and that model(and many more) use that refrigerant.The replacement gas R290 (Propane) makes ACs more expensive because it's dangerous.In an AC thread a few weeks back an anon posted a link to a manufacturer(EU based iirc) that also sold similar split units but I don't have the link. iirc it was cheaper at like 800 euro.
I feel like this thread is full of germans and yes, the porta split is perfect! Problem is, do you want to spend 800 bucks? + 5-10€ a day to run it for the summer?Heatwave will last 4 days. Let's see how july goes. Just be a man and rawdog it this summer, buy a portasplit in winter for 399€.
>>109126142>800 euro.damn that's a lot for some shitty underpowered AC
>>109125976>cant put hole in wall>can mount ugly unit outside window by putting holes in the walldo youropoors really?
>>109126142>R32 refrigerant is getting bannedReally? That's crazy, I was under the impression that we just starting using it relatively recently.
>>109126173The bracket doesn't require putting any holes in the wall>ugly unitWhat do you mean? Even proper mini-splits look essentially the same and are typically installed on the wall directly under the window in my country
>>109126142>R290 (Propane) makes ACs more expensive because it's dangerous.liesall refrigerant is flamable.also all refrigerant is bad, so making it "safer" by not leaking isnt any different for propane.all jewish lies and tricks
>>109126175It's been around for at least half a decade already.
is there a reason you retards don't just have this
>>109126154you will pay way more on electricity, over the lifetime of the AC you will pay it 10x or more on electricitywelcome to europe
>>109126183then why not get a window unit? or do you have those 5D hinge windows that open 10 different ways where babies can fall out from?
>>109126195What for? This form factor of an outdoor unit is only popular in North America. If you mean central AC in general, it is not common (and even then usually doesn't use that form factor outside of North America)
>>109126195Harder to install than split systems
I think people condition themselves to need air conditioners but if you just embrace heat it feels good, it gets up to like 40c and very humid where I live and I like it
>>109125919Midea ACs are garbage. I had one that threw sparks and died after a week of use. I retuned it and the replacement lasted 2 weeks before doing the same thing. These things are shit even by chinkslop standards.
the window door is such a big problem for the portable ac'swhat if it rains and your fucking window is open?
>>109126196All the more reason to get one with actually decent efficiency.
>>109126213I don't like to take a shit when I am sweating
>>109126199Cannot install into a European window
>>109126195ducted air conditioning where I live and possibly in other countries that are not america look like this pic, the bottom is the condenser unit, the top is the unit that is installed in the ceiling and from which the ducts are run
>>109126220introducing, millennia-old technology. Get yours today!
>>109126142>R32 refrigerant is getting banned/phasedMan you EUcucks really banning every single thing
So can anyone answer>Either way, what's the best alternative for a proper mini-split if you're not allowed to drill a hole and you don't have dual-hose portable units in your country?I don't have dual-hose or the picrel PortaSplit in my country
I got a single hose AC by accidentI got a single hose AC by accidentI got a single hose AC by accident
>>109126361try a single hose to dual hose conversion hack
>>109126112>But don't they suck? We don't have dual-hose in my country it seemsNo they don't. The trotec I had could be set to 16c the lowest temp and it would blow 16 degree air outif the vent.
>>109126302I really don't know why these fell out of style, I still see them on a few houses around my neighborhood though. It's like people forgot sun on the glass makes a shit ton of heat.
>>109126195They don't have the space for it.
>>109125999The japs do have a significant presence. https://youtu.be/9YgZ8s0qkBs?
>>109125919Isn't the compressor outside then?If so, the compressor is loud as shit and your apartment neighbors are first going to hate you and then sue you over it.
>>109126719>then sue you over itWhere are they going to get the money for it, unless they're super wealthy?
>>109126607>fell out of styleMaybe in colder places, but you see them on balconies all over southern Europe, as well as shades/blinds that let air in but block light. Awnings work and it's always better to limit the heat coming in the summer than letting it in and having to pump it outside constantly.
>>109126719>compressor is loudI don't know, in my country people put outdoor units of mini-splits under windows of their apartments without asking for anyone's permission quite often, nobody seems to complain. Is it possible that mini-split compressors are quieter?
what happens with the water condensation on these, is it like a dehumidifier where you empty a tub periodically, do they run the drain line through the same conduit as the heat pipe to the external unit, or do you just have to run your own drain line?
>>109126735The loser pays them so if they're suing correctly, you pay their lawyer cost
>>109126719This one has an outdoor unit so tiny I'm pretty sure the compressor is in the indoor unit.
>>109125919Kinda wish this was a PC case.
>>109126772They're quiet when they aren't broken at least, way more quiet than the giant ones that sit outside for central air that I've heard typically.
>>109126786Of course, but first of all, you need to pay for it from your own pocket before you win the case, and second, where I live at least, the court usually awards "reasonable" attorney fees, which the court almost always finds to be less than what was actually paid.In general, I'm indeed curious, where do average people get money for attorneys to actually sue someone? Every time I looked the prices were astronomical, unless you have savings that you're ready to potentially piss away. Where do they get the money?
>>109126668they should start exporting brown people then
It's hot every summer for thousands of years but suddenly we need AC?
>>109126943not that hot, zoomie
>>109126824isn't it just a few hundred euros?
>>109126132>>109126150>>109126196Do utilities included rental flats not exist in europe? I had the midea u-shaped inverter window ac unit back in my old apartment. Energy cost didnt matter for me since utilities are already fixed into the rent. Basically im saying these little ac units only make sense to buy if electricity is already included in your rent or if youre really wealthy and can burn the cash
>>109127056>Do utilities included rental flats not exist in europe?Of course not
>>109127004I mean I don't know what country you're talking about, but typically I would assume that a "few hundred euros" is for each hour of work by the attorney. To be clear, I'm talking about civil lawsuits generally, not necessarily this specific scenario regarding the AC noise - I think in that case it might be enough to simply report it to the police or something
>>109126943do you think all the people who died in France from extreme heat are crisis actors too? The world is getting hotter, A/C is not negotiable when it's 37C outside.
>>109126195we live in pods and eat bugs.
I wish I had an AC...
>>109127196Its literally only 1.5x price of GTA6 bro........
>>109127227$300? Never seen such a cheap AC, unless you mean a window unit, which I can't install into my window. Mini-splits are great, but require drilling AND at least a free electrical outlet nearby to the wall-mounted unit, which I don't have. Portable units seem wildly overpriced, they cost almost as much as the mini-splits while clearly being far worse, and to be completely honest, I don't understand to how put these portable units into a tilt-and-turn window either.
>>109125919I have a Midea portable AC, not a mini split. And it's fine. I've only had one other portable AC and my parents got that back in the 00s. The Midea we got is 3-4 years old.
>>109127270Pay some electrician for $50 to install it
>>109127270cheap mini-splits exist, mrcool brand is an example.>free electrical outletget a proper extension cable at your local lowes or home depot.
>>109127370I've never said that mini-splits are too expensive, I'm saying that I can't drill a hole and I don't know if I trust an extension cord for something consuming a lot of energy
>>109126199Euros aren't allowed to have window units because their landlord won't let them.
>>109127386Ok....put the cables through the window. And a proper, grounded, "industrial" extension cord (not the shit you get at walmart) can be used with no issues for up to 50'.
>>109126191Dude less than 10 years for something like refrigerant standards is a very short time.
>>109126337>>109126345based
>>109125919I have this one and it's easily able to keep to room at 23°-ish when it's >35 outside(Graphs from Home Assistant)
>>109126150Current heatwave started last Friday and will last until Sunday. That's 9 days. Today it's 37°C in the day and 24°C in the night in fucking Belgium.Yes I will survive but my two daughters (2.5 years and 8 months) are struggling. My mom is a nursing home without AC and is suffering as well.I get that private homes installing AC is up to the individual, but having schools, daycares, hospitals and nursing homes without AC is downright criminal.
House liquid cooling
>>1091261505-10€ per day is way off, I'm using around 2-4 KWh, so around 0.5-1.5€ per day(Those numbers are probably correct for monoblock ACs, which are horrible and should never be used)
>>109126130show pic of your workdid it cause the AC to strain harder?
>>109125919I had a portable split(not midea) before I had my own apartment, and it's good. It's a lot more efficient than regular portable units. A lot better than dual hose units too. These are actual split units.
>>109127386>I don't know if I trust an extension cord for something consuming a lot of energyModern inverter-equipped mini-splits don't use that much power, like my high-end PC routinely draws more power to play a demanding game than the AC cooling the room in the summer. I've measured the power consumption out of curiosity and I've never seen it break 1kW and that's only in the hottest days and when the room itself is way above the set point too. Usually it's like 200-300W on a normal, sunny summer day.
>>109128092>200-300WEnvironmentalists say that this level of power consumption is destroying the environment. Do you agree? I personally don't give a fuck lol
>>109125976The major problem is that it can be stolen, you will need to put it back inside to secure your house or else you be robbed. Nothing beneficial unless you have a gated community with active guards.
>>109128227>your AC will get stolenlol what the fuck where do you live?
>>109128227>The major problem is that it can be stolen
>>109128246>this is your country on ni**ersGrim
>>109128246lamo @ that masterlock
>>109128235Some places, they'll even steal flowers.
>>109128235Mexico and yes it can be stolen, it’s just too easy to get it out and also steal the other items along.
>>109128214lolMy PC alone pulls like 500-600W when playing a demanding game. 200-300W is like what the living room lights used to draw back when they were incandescent. It's not nothing but it's not much either. My oven draws up to 3kW, I would consider that quite high for a household appliance.
>>109128280I don't want to get banned from /g/ but yeah... TND>>109128282Oof
>>109128286Ok but do you used your PC or oven for like every single hour that the sun is up, and maybe even through the night as well? No
>>109126302>wind enters the server>it flies away
I really want it but people will give me shit about it, nobody has AC in the apartment block where I live and they will seethe its unsafe etc. out of pure jealousy.
>>109126337>>109126345Is this the final redpill?
>>109125919so eurofags are buying an air conditioner just to use it for a few weeks in a year?
>>109128368Being in a hot environment, and having cold air blown on you, is so much better than being in a cold environment, and having hot air blown on you. So it could be like a mini-vacation for them or something.
>>109128368I don't know why this is being made out to be such a thing here in Europe. I've had AC since 2009 when I bought cheap Chinese splits for literally $250 a piece. They are still running. I have not performed any sort of maintenance on them. Year by year, they just werk. And the supposed cost of electricity is retarded, because if you're not a braindead american you will not run AC 24/7. It is literally enough to run it for 2 hours per day, between like 1PM-3PM. Many European countries actually have cheaper electricity between those hours. So it actually doesn't even cost that much if you're not a fucking retard.
>>109127837Friday will be insane for us. But yeah, if you have and older mother and kids, just get an AC, shit is not fun in the summer. They always say "I'ts only 4 weeks, you can do it" It's fucking june and I'm dying, but I'll rawdog it.>>109127923I was just throwing out a number, but still euro energy prices are fucked. And yes, I know thing thing doesn't have to blast 500w all the time, it will go to rest and kick in when it's needed. 1-2€ per day doesn't sound too bad.
>>109128387Americans have to runb the AC 24/7 because otherwise the humidity will turn their entire house into one big piece of black mold. Is that not a concern for yuro peons?Also not really needed to single out Americans since lots of Asian countries have a fuck load of AC and run them constantly too. Like BASED NIPPON
>>10912841>Americans have to runb the AC 24/7 because otherwise the humidity will turn their entire house into one big piece of black mold. Is that not a concern for yuro peons?lol no, didn't even think about itHigh humidity only happens for like several days per year in Central Europe.
>>109125919Drill the fucking hole, what are they gonna do? take your safety deposit away? lmao.
>>109128227I don't have gates or guards I just don't live in a low-trust shithole filled with nons.
>>109128448Yes, and they can immediately evict you, and sue you to repair the damage.And my safety deposit is 3000 eurodollars.
>>109125976I can't even put the outdoor unit outside my windows because it look like this.Fuck my yuropoor life.
Never got the popularity of these threads.You can take a pic in Europe anywhere and almost every appartment has a an AC thingy hanging from the window. Maybe 20 years ago when it wasn't scorching hot every summer it was different but it's gotten pretty hot...And burger houses needing the huge boxes are silly. I'm sure they're more efficient but... it's just so weird to see borderline industrial equipment for a regular house. I mean if anything happens, you have to call someone to fix it, maybe even take down some walls.. fuck that. Pipes and wires are bad enough to deal with.
>>109126001honestly seems like a shill thread but honestly who the fuck would pay to market on 4chan
Where the fuck can you buy this portashit in Germany? Everything is sold out.
>>109128839Epstein and israel do
>>109128839You can't even buy the unit in the OP, so it'd be pointless shilling it. It's already sold out everywhere.
>>109128959sold out in other countries too, they're making mad bank
>>109125919Buy an ad. And a real AC unit, not this faggot app shit
>>109126100Wait till you get tinnitus
Bought a cheap portable unit the other day, modded it with a second hose by cutting the hose it came with in half, and it makes the day so much nicer.The one weird thing is I can't really sleep with it, and I don't know why. Last night I woke up after 7 hours of sleep, tonight I woke up after 6. Still better than I usually get this time of year, where I wind up sleeping outside in the garden where it's humid but at least there's a breeze. I guess it's the constant cycling of the compressor, next year I'll buy a fancier model with better hysteresis.
>>109126361damn anonI feel for youhad one of those long ago and it pulled in so many nasty smells from the neighboring apartments etcimagine having one of those when it's hot and somebody needs to take a nasty shit in the bathroom
>>109129641>by cutting the hose it came with in half, and it makes the day so much nicer.either I'm retarded, or you're retardedsingle hose units just have a hose for exhaustyou would have to completely seal the air intake (wherever that is) around a new hose, not destroy your exhaust hose
>>109126100noise has a negative effect on IQ, just FYIwhich is probably why society makes it so difficult if not impossible to have true quiet anywhereto keep all the dumb goyim slaving away
>>109129797NTA, single hose units sometimes just come with one pipe but have two ports or at least the air intake has close diameter to the exhaust. A hose is a pipe, you can cut on in half and have two shorter pipes. I just bought another pipe for my portable AC.
>>109129806>noise has a negative effect on IQ, just FYIyeah I'm gonna need proofs on that one
>>109129912makes sense to meyou're gonna do a lot worse on an iq test if there's a ton noise while you're doing the test
>>109129797You also need a cardboard box to cover the intake vent but then you can go to town
>>109125919What's the advantage of this vs a U shaped window unit like this?
>>109128445In parts of the US where it's this bad, almost all the houses have some type of central AC built in, whether it's duct based or preinstalled minisplits. I'm in the northeast where we usually only get a few weeks worth of heat and humidity that warrant an AC, and here most homes have a radiator system for heat, and either use window units or retrofit minisplit heat pumps for cooling.
>>109126195we rent cuckboxes. no way the landlord allows us to install that
>>109129806>noise has a negative effect on IQI already lost 30 IQ points from cooming every single day for the last 12 years
>>109129641>by cutting the hose it came with in halfwtf why
How much cooling capacity (in BTUs) does the average American style central AC unit have?
>>109130027Compatibility with basically any style of window. Most European windows won't accomodate such a unit either due to size or design.
