https://www.theregister.com/systems/2026/06/25/micron-locks-in-historically-high-memory-prices-for-five-years/5261854
>>109132022I wasn't actually, good to know the PC I got in december last year will remain state of the art for a decade
>>109132022Calm down the smiling, modern CEO offers you a solution for expensive computers. You simply rent one for a small monthly fee. Simple terms and conditions: the company will ensure that you have software that complies with EU requirements, for example. They will check your software and games for you to ensure they are kosher and represent all "marginalized" groups.And best of all AI will generate a "game" in the cloud and display it on a rented tablet (they've already been slacking off on generated "games" more than once – which were videos imitating gameplay, and quite crappy ones at that).Be happy, dear consumers !
>>109132022Can't wait for CXMT to destroy the globohomo.
>>109132022China has the chance to do the funniest thing ever and I hope they do because it would mean the permanent end of the flash cartel.
I don't care anymore
>>109132022Micron shut down its consumer business this year, you stupid alarmist faggot. Seek euthanasia.
>>109132197>China has the chance to do the funniest thing everYeah, also selling their entire stock to AI grift companies. So le funey eckss deee
>>109132197>China has the chance to do the funniest thing everChina can fill some gaps, but filling the scale of capacity that was lost could take them many many years. Prices will still be very high. But with that said, without China we might of had a future with zero on the shelves at any price.
fuck i hope chinks will destroy this kike NAND cartel
>>109132187is this zzz?
Revenge for wasting fab capacity on crypto miners.
>>109132505genshin, the pantyshot is probably moddedlooking at the mods almost makes me want to reinstall but then again>gacha
>>109132022Unlike most of /g/ nowadays, I'm not a brown anti-ai luddite so I saw the writings on the wall and acted accordingly before the shitstorm began.
>>109132187>Already on the entity listThanks orangebama.
>>109132505Genshin Impact~
>>109132197The Chinese will never have a better chance to break into the memory market. If I were them I'd be investing tens of billions building plants right now.
It's like a moral obligation not to ever pay a cent for LLM shit at this point
maybe this is a good thing? if normies are priced out of personal computing we can have it back for ourselves
But I was planning to buy ram
>>109132022Gee. Seems the perfect time for some new company out of nowhere to start making RAM & SSDs. ;)
>>109132022>big buyers agree to deals that will deliver historically enormous margins and profits>willCapitalism is so fake and gay.
>>109132197Chinks are only self-interested, scammers and obsessed with money, you fucking retard.
>>109136111>The chinks could do something very funny and profitable>RETARD THEY ONLY CARE ABOUT MONEY!Are there any humans left on this board or is it really just me and a billion bots?
>>109133372That mooseknuckle
waitfags in disbelief
>>109132022Just because you signed a contract doesn't mean you'll have money to take delivery in 5 years. What happens to price if someone defaults on one of these?
>>109136297zoomers can't into futes
Not really desu. 32GB of DDR4 should easily last me that long. My only regret was not switching storage drives to SSDs/NVMes.>>109132187Is Genshit still worth it? I quit around the time Sumeru dropped. I never tried mods.
what kills me is that im already old af (37 years old) and not being able to participate in my hobby at my advanced geriatric age is giving me so much anxiety. same feeling realizing something like "wow i wont be able to play the next TES or Fallout game for 20 years"
>>109136381ok then just play the old ones, odds are they'll be better anyway
>>109136111>self-interested, scammers and obsessed with moneyoh that's nice, since americans are none of those.
>>109136381If you can't buy them kids definitely can't buy them. New games are gonna be stuck on the same performance target for a while.And yeah, you can already run all the good games on a phone anyway.
>>109132022So what's their plan for china taking over the market, when every phone manufacturer switch to em?
>>109132022the register has never prognosticated successfully
>>109132049There's more than 2 billion computers on the world already, and people hate "renting computing time" since the beginning.The only way to force something like you said would be to send soldiers everywhere to take em.
>>109132187Optane *RAM* is better than cxmt in terms of latency.not optane ssd, which are irrelevant.
>>109136111Yep.The perfect kind of people to backstab a cartel and steal the whole market to themselves.If lowering the price in 20% means getting 80% of the market, that's what they will do.
>>109136360gayshit*
>>109136381put pressure on the political boomers so that you can?
>>109136423literally just make a new windows version that deprecates even newer chips and cattle will literally throw them away
>>109136427>>109132187WELLLLLLEWWEWEWEWELWLELWELELELELELELELElthe issue is that there's a new CXT in town. new to me.CXT Type 3 DA (Direct Attached)It's the new "Optane" (pmem) - in low latency reads, which is what makes pmem relevant today, still.You were actually right. wow.
>>109136427>Optane *RAM* is better than cxmt in terms of latency.You'll never catch me being this retarded comparing an entire brand to a specific product
>>109132022>no, goyim chuds can't corner the silver market, that's manipulation!!!1! it's illegal!! it's anoda shoa!!! oy gevalt!>actually, let us chosen people corner the global computer parts market, because why not?I just wanted to play videogames.
>>109136427>>109132187I WAS WRONG U R GEY>cxt type 3 DA in today's market means you buy ddr5 sticks?Yes, exactly. In today's market, deploying a CXL Type 3 DA solution means your main purchase is just standard, off-the-shelf DDR5 RDIMM sticks to populate the card.CXT <> OPTANE PMEMIt's literally just a way to get more ram onto your computer lmao. I mean. cool, I think. kind of.OPTANE PMEM is a cheaper way to get low-latency READS for a LOW PRICE PER GB.AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH why can't you do anything right intel why
oops>No, CXL and CXMT are completely different things, though they are heavily colliding in the AI market right now. It is easy to mix them up because they are both 4-letter acronyms starting with "CX" that dominate modern hardware discussions.well CXL is a glorified ramdriveand cxmt is just chinese stupid ram:(there is no optane pmem.:( woe woe inhabitants of the Earth.
>>109136543yeah, cxmt is just a stupid chinese ram company. Hopium is fine, but their prices are the same as micron or whatever. it's not a real solution.optane PMEM specifically was perfect for llm (but not the context kv cache)
Apparently pmem tended to fail at high rates, thoBUT THAT'S BESIDE THE POINT
>>109132723>3090>likely DDR4 ramYou are 2 generations behind anon, there's a non-zero possibility you are brown.
>>109136642It's nice, but nvidia spies on everything you do. may as well use cloud
>>109136642There's next to no difference in "2 generations" nowadays.Crysis is as old as Megaman 3 was when Crysis first launched, and you can try all you want but you can't say that the graphical jump is the same, because it's not.We're supposed to have actual photorealism by now, but we don't.
>>109132022I really don't get this. RAM has been stable for months, and DDR4 has even come down slightly in the past few days. Something feels like it's not adding up. Is it only Micron doing this massive markup? Also, what is the markup? That article doesn't even give the actual amount.
>>109136406Probably a projecting Jeet.
>>109136887>There's next to no difference in "2 generations" nowadays.thats bullshit, to be fair, you shouldn't need to upgrade your 3090 unless you game at 4k, but still, thats complete bullshit. A 5090 is roughly double the performance of your 3090, nearly 3x depending on what you want to do.
>>109132723Same specs brother. You don't need more
>>109136887>Luddite cope
>>109136943"Double the performance" is a nothing, it's 18 months of difference give or take, and that only talking about raw transistor counts.Been a while we don't have a better rendering technique, a "carmack pull" so to speak, it's just "we're doing for real this time!!!" that looks exactly the same shit, but with more motion blur.>>109136971It's not "ludditism", it's just the fact we don't have really smart people working on games anymore, it's just blurry UE5 slop.
>>109132187I want to fuck this character
>>109132022I'll probably end up dropping quite a lot of cash into new hardware over the next couple years for AI local setup. I think we'll only have a small window in the near future where decent local models will still be available to the plebs. Won't be like this forever.t. investor/trader goy
>>109136986pcbench.net/compare/gpus/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3090-vs-nvidia-geforce-rtx-5090
>>109132022i dont think the AI bubble will happen but I for sure think this RAM bubble is going to implode once AI becomes more optimized to run on systems and require less memory.
>>109137078Can you explain what you mean? What would take them away from the plebs?
>>109136642>"2 gens behind">pay 4-7x times over 400$ 3090 in order to still have barely 1.3x vramLol. It was better to get 2/4 3090s, but I don't need them, as even that would not have allowed me to run huge LLMs only in VRAM, so there was no point in spending more. And I don't need multiple 6000s to warrant spending more on them than a small house in some shithole 3rd world country.
>>109132022Please save us XI from the memory kikery
>>109132022why wouldnt a new competitor from the US or Europe rise up when ram is so profitable now?
>>109138248Memory is extremely high barrier to entry for manufacturing, requiring billions of dollars in equipment just to get a fab. Then you also need the expertise of industry engineers, material scientists and literal quantum physicists with gatekept knowledge. Maybe some millionaire could make ancient pre-DDR2 RAM if the equipment is cheap, but it won't help at all with modern RAM needs.
>>109138649>Then you also need the expertise of industry engineers, material scientists and literal quantum physicists with gatekept knowledgeyou are talking as if Europe or the US were some backwater shithole when they literally invented these fields and still produce a lot of grads in the field. They dont have to produce top of the line ram just compete by producing cheaper consumer ram. There is plenty of profit to be made here.
The great paradox is that there's nothing worth hoarding as data.>but le ebin money metadata or video/photos that are needed for training big globohomo subscription skynet models are worth big shekelsNo, I mean all the good websites are gone, and the links to desirable files are all dead. I'm grateful I got to use the internet before it all went to shit, so I find it hard to justify wanting more storage, I guess I got lucky by being early.>>109132243
>>109132022>Hope you weren't planning on buying RAM or SSDs for the next 5 yearsI wasn't because I'm not a retard so when every tech outlet on the planet was saying how there's a giga crunch incoming I bought 4x 64gb ram and 12tb ssd totalif (you)'re a /g/ nigga and haven't stocked up in time you deserve the pain
>>109136243Gamers are less profitable cattle than LLM prompters, you spastic. >>109136936There is no difference between you and Jeets.
>>109136406You're so bothered by it and yet you worship them, Chang.
>>109136381just get into homelab network and automation shit to past the time.i will be playing games at 1080p for the rest of my life if necessary but i am not paying for some chink's yacht
