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>>109139135my new pen
>>109139135I use the pilot .4s ball point, not needleit gets the job done
>>109139135My favorites, two kakunos in Fine and Extra Fine and a Jinhao 20 which is basically a Vanishing point copy in Fine.
Ohto GS01 (with chink parker g2 refils) + GG1000 (with the cheapest lead and eraser replacements i can find).You don't need more.
these suck
For me, it's the zebra sarasa dry airfit grip 0.5.
>>109139135Faber Castell Grip X5 (instead of Pilot G). as smooth as gel ink, but quick drying.Faber Castell Gripmatic (instead of Kuru Toga). its the poorman's Kuru Toga at fraction of the price. i dont need more.
>>109139135i am legit aspie about pens. don't you dare try to check me unless you know the difference between rollerball and ballpoint. When i'm in a bad mood I go spend $10 at Walmart to try some new pens and paper. I went for safari meme for a bit; locking in if you write in cursive is exquisite. the consistent friction melts the pen to your brain. but goddamn, I always have trouble with inconsistent ink flow. always seems to light. maybe it's the cheap paper. idk. it always bugs me. For quick, daily cheap pen, these dollar tree Inc Formas are incredible. my favorite daily pen. fat oval grip, dark rich ink, smooth consistent flow, good friciton level. seriously recommend these cheap dollar tree pens. pic related.
>>109140241writing with a uniball eye on thick paper is the closest I've ever come to reexperiencing my first stepmother porno
>>109140877I don't write anything important unless it's with a uniball eyemy lucky pen
I need a fountainpen ink that is>black>completely waterproof when dry>wont dry out quick in a pen
>>109141013I don't know about completely waterproof but try Sailor Kiwa Guro. Dries quickly on paper, haven't clogged any of my pens if cleaned from time to time and have a deep black color.If you want something that's completely waterproof like if you want to wash your writings/drawings I don't think a fountain pen is the right tool... But Kiwa Guro is very tolerant.
>>109140709Why the fuck would you use cheap pens instead of just bringing a good EDC pen?
>>109142886Cool. I'll try it out. Been using Platinum carbon ink.
Not one penis in the whole thread.../g/ has truly fallen.
>>109139135I have two Jinhao 159 and neither of them is sealed properly with the cap screwed on.It's only a matter of time until the nibs dry out and silicon gel on cap threads does not work.How do I fix them?
for me, it's the Pilot Precise V5 RT, as featured in the film Interstellar
Just getting into writing by hand now, any tips on how to improve? My skills have atrophied and I am borderline retarded when trying to write
>>109140150when will the chinese learn to make stub nib i wonder. love my majohn a1, but would love a stub nib on it and at the price just the nibs go for I'm better off buying a real vanishing point with the stub option.
>>109142892do you even write? >>109143639>it's the Pilot Precise V5 RT,an exquisite pen. awesome pen for cursive.
>>109146374Yeah, which is the reason why I avoid cheap crap.
>>109143821muji kinda writes nice but they smudge pretty bad used em at my old job
>>109146374>an exquisite pen. awesome pen for cursive.It's also great for math as well!
>Pilot Precise V5Just bought a couple of these.
>>109147366I've had trouble with the stick versions lately so I stick with the RT.
Paper quality matters, some pens performance will suffer because of this
>>109139135I go through pen phases. Right now Im in a stub kick.
lmaobetter pens ain't gonna do shit for your penmanshipit's not the pen, it's the handa good hand with a shit offbrand ballpoint will mog any EliteJapaneseMujiJinhaoWhateverTheFuck every day of the week
I've tried a shit load of pens over the years, I always go back to the Pilot G2 or the Uni Jetstream both in .38, I've found nothing better.
>>109147789>Pilot G2Get a V5 RT, it's much better.
Using a new old stock Pilot Elite at my clinical site for patient notes. They were only produced in South Korea from the late 70s to early 80s. There was, and maybe still is a seller on eBay in Thailand who was selling them for a good price a few years ago who I ordered a shitload of brand new 40+ year old pens from. It's pretty nice although the nib feels kinda flimsy.
>>109141013Platinum Carbon Black
>>109140709Legit aspie about pens but still buying cheap pens from a big box store?
I still haven't found anything better than the Pilot G2. You can cry >muh r*didn't! all you want but it's the best.
>>109149350Have you tried Energels? I was a big fan of G2s until I tried an Energel
>>109149350>>109149510Sharpie S-Gel mogs them both.
i have a UK made parker jotteri dont need anything more
>>109150511For black ink, sureBut it's a pain in the ass to find Sharpie S-Gel refills in other colors and I don't want to waste a ton of pen bodies
Oh boy a thread for me. I've got a million ali special pens and pencils. I avoid the expensive stuff because I lose them so fast.
>>109150558A few years ago these would constantly get pruned. Hopefully things are better now.
What pencils are you guys using? I found a Nicpro 0.5mm that is solid black metal and feels on par with a Rotring 600.
Bic Ultra Round Stic Grip on 67lb card stock. Coming close is Pentel RSVP fine. Don't really like gel pens. I cut the card stock to whatever size I need. Its pretty cheap.
never had to use anything else.this and iroshizuku fuyu-syogun is all i need
Recently went through a phase of autism and bought a bunch of fountain pens off Aliexpress because I wanted to draw diagrams and take notes in a diary.I wanted one of those pens where you can modulate it to write really thick and really thin lines without changing the actual pen. I got some ultra thick nibs (2.5mm I think?) which was kinda alrightish, it had trouble with flow a lot of the time (and it's so big it's pretty impractical for taking notes with). I tried buying a "flex nib" as well which ended up being completely worthless and didn't even work (despite just the nib itself costing more than most of the pens I bought).My favourite ended up being one of these naginata nibs. I saw you can get these double (or even triple) layered ones but they end up costing real money (~$100AUD for a triple).
>>109151937AliExpress pens are fucking terrible, I regret wasting money on many of them that ended up in the trash after trying to get them to work reliably, even going as far as trying to tune the nibs under my microscope. They're just fundamentally badly engineered. It's best to just pay more for something from a reputable company. Even then, if you go with something on the low end like a Parker Jotter for $15-$20, it might be shitty like the first one I had.
>>109144663you can grind your nibs to do that btw, also I think majohn just released some flex nibs if ya interested.
>>109152071I don't know the first thing about fountain pens but as far as I can tell it's pretty much the same as mostly anything else on there: hit and miss, with a few gems with really good price value. The naginata pen cost $7 and I'm happy with it.
been using twsbi eco with rohrer&klingner ink for some yearsmy only downside to it is the pen sorta resembles a vape when cappedi like that the ink is very cheap but also a nice quality, and its not a pure black but has a subtle cyan undertonethe eco writes smoothly, i mostly upgraded to it from my childhood lamy safari due to the big ink chamber, beast for uni notes
>>109152083>you can grind your nibs to do that btwI won't be doing that.I'll keep an eye out of those I guess.>>109152323Never did like transparent bodies on pens, have to use a kakuno because my metropolitan cracked for some reason and it's the only stub nib pen I got that I like.
>>109140150mine is on the way from china, cheaper than from EU seller, also with fine nibHere is my stuff, like uniball pens for writing and notetaking. Rest is used for drawing. Almost everything was bought thru aliexpress because they had much better prices for japan made stuff than local sellers. Also have lots of other stuff for drawing but for now im using mechanical pens, fine liners and sometimes brush pens
>>109152549I'm partial to uniball signo 207s, I take the cartridges out and use them in a G2 limited, they write like a dream but I can never actually finish any single cartridge because the tiny wire tension spring holding the ball point eventually breaks and sticks out through the ball and it starts leaking uncontrollably, this still hasn't stopped me from buying more because G2 refills suck and uni signos are easy to find here and I'm not really willing to get sucked back into japanese pen autism again.
>>109139135Why ink pen still relevant, aren't they bullock carts ?I used in school though, but now...
>>109152571zento refills are really nice, smooth, not too much smudging. Color when dried is bit lighter than other inks, more dark grey than black. For drawing its not that good, with minimal pressure ink just wont come out. U need to use normal writing level pressure for ink to come out of refill. For drawing Pilot g tec c4 seems to be my favourite but generally felt nib fineliners> ball point pen > gel pens for drawing
>>109152549keep in mind the Fine nib on the Jinhao is like a western medium, it is very smooth but it's just thick at about 0.5mm line width. >Also have lots of other stuff for drawingI'm also getting into drawing but I kinda suck ;p
>using paper in 2026
>>109139148it's here
>>109151937>I wanted one of those pens where you can modulate it to write really thick and really thin lines without changing the actual pen.A bent nib works great for that: https://arttoolkit.com/blog/2026/02/sketching-with-fude-bringing-life-to-your-lines-with-a-bent-nib-fountain-pen/Much easier to use than a flex nib.
>>109154226kys
>>109154226I missed you, bro.Anyway, fuck you.
These finally came in today. Had to wait about a week for shipping.
>>109143821palmer's guide to business writing. either edition, probably the first is fine. internet archive, no copyright because it's a century old. do the exercises, that's it. fuck you here's the link. fag. https://www.loc.gov/item/11026563/
>>109156658those are dollar store shit pens
