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>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE
Post build list or current specs: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped

>CASE
mATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3, CH260
ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 217, Flux Pro, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME, X50
Dual Chamber: Y60/70, O11 Vision, Antec C8

>CPU
Gaming: 250K, 14600K, 7/9600X, 7/9800X3D
-Budget: 225F, 7500F, 12600K
Workstation: 270K, 9950X3D
*Avoid Asrock motherboards on AM5
*On Raptor Lake microcode updates are mandatory, avoid second-hand

>COOLER
AIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Lian Li Galahad II Lite, Corsair Nautilus RS, Cooler Master Atmos, Liquid Freezer 3/Pro (unhandy mounting solution)
ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67

TIM: MX-6, MX-7, Duronaut, *PTM 7950, Kryosheet
*Most listings online are not actually 7950

>RAM
DDR5: 2x16GB or 2x24GB, 6000CL30 (AM5), 6400CL32 (LGA 1700)
Workstation: 2x 32GB (budget.), 2x48GB or 2x64GB (high-end)

>SSD (Keep firmware updated)
Budget: SN7100, NM790
High-end: SN850X, 990 Pro (Windows)
Premium: SN8100
https://borecraft.com/

>GPU
Budget: Arc B580, 9060xt, 5060
-Used: Turing
*8gb has become a major constraint even at 1080p
Midrange: 5070, 9070
-Used: 3080/ti
High-end: 5070ti, 9070xt

>PSU
Buying guide:
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/

>MONITOR
Budget: 144-180hz IPS, Mini-Led
Premium: 240hz+ QDOLED
-QDOLED 240hz+ or QDOLED TV for better HDR but less refresh rate

>OS
Activate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt

>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Midrange: Arctic P12 Pro, P14 Pro (5-pack, loud @ higher RPM)
High-end: Fractal Momentum, Noctua G2 (140mm or 120mm)

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Think for yourself. Do not blindly trust advice given here.

>A /pcbg/ for every use case and budget!

>Price tracking
RAM: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ram/ram-price-index-2026-lowest-price-on-ddr5-and-ddr4-memory-of-all-capacities
SSD: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ssds/ssd-price-tracking-2026-lowest-price-on-every-m-2-ssd
GPU: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/lowest-gpu-prices-tracking

>GPU hierarchy 2026
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

>Other helpful Links
Mobomaps: https://mobomaps.com/
A PC build guide: https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Build_a_PC
German autism: https://www.igorslab.de/en/
Alternate to pcpartpicker: https://pangoly.com/en/pc-builder
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get a 9070xt
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>>109143152
Required viewing for all the retards
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6O5XGVaPDZo
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>>109143170
Which of the cheapest models do you recommend?
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Do people know that there is no difference between maxed out 2026 build and mid tier 2019 build is your OS is not bloated?
Also for the last like 5 years gamedevs and nvidia were shipping slop and slopmachines, so when it comes to resolution and frame rates, there is no GPU in the world that can run gaymes in 4k 240Hz without fake frames and upscaling etc.
Basically you're better off with 1080p, that's what all GPUs render anyways. And then it makes no sense to have more than 8GB VRAM or 16GB RAM.
As for your CPU, it can be 10 years old and it's ok, basic things will work just fine, most software too. If you're a salty dude and have pre cloud era software in active use, you know it's snappy and works perfectly well. Getting 2026 hardware is just diminishing returns at this point.

So why do people build these things? Besides the obvious reasons, like falling for marketing and rainbow LEDs.
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>>109143203
I like pretty looking games on my 4k qd oled monitor
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>>109143196
the one i posted
the powercolor hellhound
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>>109143196
>>109143211
i stand by it.
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you dont need more than a pulse
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>>109143209
>pretty looking games
Where? Any examples?
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>>109143236
that hole was meant to have a 92mm fan exhaust on it, surely
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>>109143236
This vexes me.
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>>109143241
Pragmata has nice scifi environments
kc2 has really impressive forests, alan wake 2 is another with its baked lighting
007 first light pushes dense high detail crowds in particular
zero parades has this neat painterly environments look

Theres sorta an overabundance of high quality games out and you dont even have time to play them all
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4070ti currently running a 27" IPS 1440p, do I:

replace with a 32" OLED 2160p monitor, watch movies at 2160p, games set to run at 1440p
or
supplement with a 85" OLED 2160p TV, watch movies at 2160p, games on the old 27"

The TV is only a few extra hundred $ but I've never plugged a TV into a PC before.
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>>109143279
32" monitor would be my pick
not having 2 monitors kinda sucks
you can just dlss upscale games to run 4k and get playable fps
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>>109143278
no need to interrupt the hog busy at his trough
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>>109143279
second option, 100%, movies are meant to be watched on TV and laying down
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>>109143263
that whole gpu is made for deshrouding.
>>109143268
i checked and it's not like that anymore. you can sleep well today.
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>>109143290
i actually do have 2 monitors, an old 24" TN 1080p - it'll be replaced by the 27" if i get a 32"

couldn't i treat the 86" TV as a 2nd monitor, even if its 6 feet away?
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>>109143316
2 monitors are there next to each other and you dont need to turn your head much to see whats happening
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>>109143279
I second the TV option, some OLEDs are great monitors as well look up your TV in review sites/YouTube to check
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I'm thinking of getting a WD Black SN7100 2 TB as my boot drive for my 14700k/6800 XT rig. They run about $280. Is there anything else I should consider for that price or is this one good to go?
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>>109143377
it has no dram cache
what prices are Samsung 9100 Pro or 990 pro available for u
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ive been keeping an eye on monitors and it looks like its kinda dry this prime day? I have a 1080 60mhz monitor and ive been looking at mini led since the oled look to be stuck 450~+. is there some likelyhood with 5k monitors showing up that would it be better to just wait for black friday/monday for better offers?
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>>109143395
The 9100 pro is $340 and the 990 pro is $370 for the same capacity. Will the DRAM cache really make that much of a difference? This will be for games, especially flight sims, and some light video editing. I'm in the US.
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>>109143422
Id get 9100 pro then
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Gonna build my pc later today, it's a Ryzen gen 5 with a 870 board. In theory it works out of the box without needing to update the bios, but should I do it anyway? Or should I only update it if I encounter any issues?
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>>109143433
Id update it afterwards using the mobo brands windows app
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>>109143377
buy the cheapest 2tb you can find, they are all the same
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>>109143448
They're obviously not. Do you just mean that they are functionally the same in most real world use cases?
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>>109143203
nothing is wrong with upscaling.
what's wrong is 4k. it's not meant for desktops. you shrink everything down to 1440 or 1080 just to make it legible, but still pay the 4k render tax.
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>>109143481
as long as its nvme then they all perform basically the same. even a ssd thats half the speed of a ps5 ssd can still play ps5 games just fine.
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>>109143279
I would go TV for TV.
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>>109143481
they are all the same, just buy one that is new
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Is there a BIOS setting that sends more power to fans, or the motherboard in general? One of my two CPU fans isn't starting. But when I isolate it by itself, it's fine.
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>>109143578
the fan headers are usually limited to 1 amp. if you have a pump header they can do 2-3 amps.
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>>109143567
Cache-free SSDs are slower than spinning discs in many cases such as random read/write.
I have yet to see any definitive proof that HMB is just as good as DRAM or that it even makes a compelling advantage versus cache-free.
The cheapest drives aren't even going to have HMB for that matter.

If you're spending $300 on an SSD you might as well spend $400 and get one that'll be twice as good. Being a cheap cunt has consequences.
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>>109143578
sounds like you don't have it plugged in correctly. you should only need to tinker with the fan speeds based on temperatures, not power levels being sent to individual fans.
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>>109143585
HMB all depends on the OS implementation. Windows by default gives HMB drives 64mb. Custom nvme drivers and Linux can modify it to give it as much as you want from none to gigabytes larger than SSD cache.
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Are there any guides or go to tier list for PSUs? One of the few parts that confuse me when shopping for what is considered “good”.
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>>109143618
I think ltts forums had some
or ask llms
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>>109143618
>look for PSU in your budget
>look it up on cybernetics website
>if it has a good grade buy
>if not look for another
It's how I do it.
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>>109143618
theres a PSU tier list in the OP. you want something with more than enough 12v amps for your needs. for example AMD officially says:
>Recommended power supply for AMD Radeon RX 7900 XTX graphics card is minimum 800W or greater power supply with 12V output > 65A.

read the 12v label on the box and it should say 65A or better on the 12V rail.
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https://youtu.be/6O5XGVaPDZo
https://youtu.be/-ot96M9RM6o
https://youtu.be/P-KSUt4F7ZY
https://youtu.be/5yzSmc2rioI
who is right and who is wrong? are intel cpus really that shit?
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>>109143633
intel speedstep / amd coolnquiet cause lots of latency because it puts the cores to sleep and low clock rate. turning it off forces the cores awake and high clock rate and makes things snappy but you also drain a lot of power which can make intel or amd very hot.
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>>109143633
why do benchmarkers who have access to every piece of hardware choose the 800x3d CPUs to compare GPUs?
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>>109143649
they are fast
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>>109143649
For 5 years amd has been dominating with x3ds, and intel simultaneously undominated with their shitty fabs. Its weird whenever I hear about some guy using intil 13-14th gen and its usually some loyalty ritual, they always used intel so the thing eating 3x more watts doesnt bother thme somehow.
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>>109143657
>they always used intel so the thing eating 3x more watts doesnt bother thme somehow
we have been here before >>109143655
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>>109143657
people are retarded. it's funny watching streamers over the last few years make a big deal about switching to an amd cpu for the first time in their life, because all their sponsors were calling them fucking retards for wanting an intel prebuilt from them.
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>>109143657
>eating 3x more watts
in video gaymes it's going to be closer if not less depending on which incel processor you're talking about exactly
They eat a lot of power actually doing something heavy on all cores, but so does ryzen
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>>109143657
That's my friend, except he now has a 285k+. When he got it I asked why when he already had a 9800x3d system, dude said the same bullshit Intel "feels better" "I read AMD is bad on reddit", and when he saw I wasn't buying his bullshit he accused me of being a shill. All I told him was he should've just gotten the 270k as it's just as good at gaming, his response was that he needed to have the best Intel CPU. I just don't get some people.
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>>109143655
>Benched @ 720p
I get what they're doing but how many retards are going to look at this and go
>zomg guys I can get 30 more frames fps per frame seconds if I just buy this better CPU!
and not understand they're gaymin at 1080p medium settings.
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>>109143663
Most of them have switched right back to Intel now that they're not being made fun of anymore.
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>>109143675
what if you upgrade your gpu? that incel cpu you bought won't get any faster. x3d is held back by current gpu tech.
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>>109143669
Offer to buy the shitty AMD system off him for cheap since it's so shitty.
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>>109143623
>>109143628
>>109143631
Thanks
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>>109143681
I did, he said it was for his nephew.
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Intel does feel better. You know why Sandy Bridge is the best? They moved the interrupts from the bridge to the CPU. This has insane low latency compared to AMD today that has to rely on the SoC to tell it to interrupt or worse the CPU has to interrupt itself to interrupt other things through the chipset driver.
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intel bros went from bragging about muh max fps to
>muh it feels better
intel really fell off kek
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>>109143694
Intel was better up until the 10900k, afterwards they're worse than AMD.
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>>109143633
>Youtube tech stars are wrong and dumb
do you agree with this statement or not?
>>109143669
>he needed to have the best Intel CPU
and then he bought a 285k
>>109143694
you don't know what an interrupt is

schizo central
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wait chads, how we holdin' up?
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>>109143706
He's a normie, to him bigger number better, therefore the 285k is better than the 270k.
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>>109143703
this is the whole point behind nvidia reflex / amd antilag2. you give up some max fps for better smoothness and max latency so it FEELS better.
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>>109143711
Badly, shit is gonna go up in price again by the time I save up enough for a new build. I'm looking at needing $5k for my next build and it'll probably be a mid tier build instead of a high end one like in the old days.
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I currently have a 5600. Today I purchased a 5800X3D. Am I retarded? My logic was that I'm priced out of buying a new motherboard + ram setup, so I may as well buy the best cpu I can for future proofing
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>>109143713
even the most retarded noromalfag knows that newer = better
270k is not only newer but cheaper and also faster qöq (still sucks tho)
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>>109143722
No, if I was in your shoes I would have done the same and just rode that shit out for the next 8-10yrs.
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>>109143722
if you ignore the previous pricing and just focus on what's available right now, then it's a fine move
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>>109143711
I skipped DDR4 entirely. waitchads never lose.
went from an i7 860 to a 7800x3d. I think the first gpu in the computer was a gtx 260, to a 1060, to a 4070 with new build.
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>>109143717
reflex doesn't even do anything unless you're GPU limited
overhyped meme tech just like everything else NVIDIA has released in the past 10 years
not saying it's bad to have the option but game developers could easily implement it themselves if they weren't retarded
>>109143725
it's the same chip
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>>109143717
sounds like cope because 1% and .1% lows are worse on intel
their cpus just suck for gayming
your cpu doesn't have a rendering pipeline like a gpu. it's not holding onto anything.
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>>109143706
>you don't know what an interrupt is
you're right I don't. because I manually interrupt my cpu.
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>>109143703
Brother you don't understand they just FEEL it.
It VIBES with them.
JIVES maybe even.
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>>109143733
I'm going to skip ddr5 entirely
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>>109143588
Only one way to plug, desu.
>>109143584
This was the help tip needed. I use my pump header for something small. I just switched the tow. CPU fan didn't start up the first time until I gave it a spin. Seems to work with a couple power offs so far. Will keep an eye on it.
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>>109143725
Normies do not look up reviews, unless it's one that validates their retarded thinking. If I asked my friend to look up a review of the 285k, he wouldn't go on Google and type in "is the 285k the best Intel CPU" he would type in something like "285k is the best Intel CPU" and then he'd get some no name YouTuber telling him he's right and the 285k is the best.
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>>109143722
nope. buying the end of a platform AND the end of a RAM generation is the correct move.
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>>109143737
reflex/antilag2 are always doing something. thats why esports use for counterstrike 2 & dota 2.

>>109143739
wrong thats why cs2 and dota2 esports all use intel.
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>>109143744
i'm joe vibin right now.
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>>109143746
based.
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>>109143757
wrong, x3d is amazing in dota2, one of the games that benefits from it the most
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>intel sponsored events
>oem sponsored events
>hardware sponsored events
yeah. i am vibin'.
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>>109143722
>Am I retarded?
i don't think so. it makes sense to do that in some situations. i'm considering that, except in my case it's an i7-7700k -> 5800X3D. i can re-use everything else and not pay the RAM cartel the AI tax.
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I hereby declare the 270K Plus to be VIBELORD CPU OF THE DECADE.
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>>109143773
250k plus is better
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>>109143757
they use sponsored equipment.
if it was up to valve they would use amd because they love amd and linux.
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>>109143744
it legit feels better
tw0mad died playing overwatch 2 because it felt that good
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>>109143773
i vibe with that take.
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>>109143767
>dota2
should I buy an ultrawide for it?
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>>109143585
The drive I was looking at has HMB. Will I really notice the lack of DRAM cache for games, flight sims, and light video editing? Also how the fuck is a spinning drive faster at literally anything???
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>>109143633

Was it ever ruled out the couple youtubers who had laggy 13-14k intel didnt just suffer from degradation?
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>>109143725
I regret getting a 9800x3d....
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>>109143785
those are bad vibes m8.
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>>109143780
I did, but I barely play these days, I'll come back eventually
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>>109143799
That's normal because the Intel CPU has 16ecores boosting it's score.
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>intel the poorfag option since x3d
KeK
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>>109143809
There is no poorfag option with current RAM prices, in fact the only poorfag option is to live next to a microcenter and get one of their bundles.
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>>109143782
Myself? I'm unsure. Like I said, I'm yet to see definitive proof that HMB can hold a candlestick to proper DRAM.
I follow the train of logic that if the most expensive SSDs still use DRAM then it's obviously the better choice.

In your use-case? Ehhh... I think not.

>Also how the fuck is a spinning drive faster at literally anything???
This actually may be incorrect. I had a quick look right after I posted that because I wanted to see where I got that information from but I can't find any actual sources. This might be straight up bullshit, but I remember someone mentioning that cache-less SSDs are poo in comparision. Might even be that shill Linus faggoT Tips.
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>>109143807
zen 6 has max 24 cores right
its going to reduce the multicore gap between amd and intel, depending on how they price it
since its am5 + ddr5 unobtanium I cant image it being too high
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>>109143799
what is this image meant to portray?
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>>109143818
>>109143809
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>>109143817
Yes, ost supposed to be moving to 12 core per ccd, so the max would be 24cores on 2 ccds. Unless they use their own e-cores then they could have 12bug cores and 24+e-cores on the second ccd. But everything points to AMD sticking to big cores only on their CPUs.
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>>109143818
GPU bottleneck, if he really wants to make it more obvious he should post the same chart but with 4k resolution.
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>>109143799
why is the 250k+ highlighted but the 270k+ in the chart on the right?
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When will AI bubble pop so ram prices can go down?
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>>109143866
In 10 years, but the price won't go down. It's the new normal, RAM now costs $500 for 32gb.
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>>109143816
Linus Race Mixing Tips did shit on DRAMless SSDs, but noted that it depends on your use case and other cache types can make up for it. He was MOSTLY angry at manufacturers for not explaining which units had DRAM and which didn't.
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>>109143873
oh yeah ssd storepages are an information void and cant be relied on for anything
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>>109143866
ask again in 5 yrs
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I love this thing but I’m already craving more VRAM
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>>109143870
Current prices are not sustainable. Even the Apple CEO said the current prices aren't sustainable, if even one of the leading guys in the industry currently says that there is good weight to it.
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>>109143879
>5080
Kikevidia weakest goy...
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>>109143879
Get the 5090 then
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>>109143886
bud bought a 5080 and the cheapest motherboard and most dogshit aio
he is a good goy
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>>109143879
yeah you got the least vram for the most price
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>>109143877
This applies to so much in the PC world.
>Can I have some solid technical data to back up the claim that this is a good product?
No! But it's a class-leading, industry tried-and-true, long-standing product that will exsneed your expectations!
>listing is for a 2011 WD Blue 2.5" HDD
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>>109143886
I got a hell of a deal on it couldn’t resist
>>109143893
I’m contemplating RTX PRO but GOD DAMN I’d take it on the chin for that
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intel bros...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1y1Cv9h4NYI
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>>109143937
DELET THIS SIR
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If I just got a 9850X3D for 380$ on sale, there's no way it would be worth it for me to upgrade to a Zen6 CPU (assuming it's on the AM5 platform), right?
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>>109143955
Correct, you might as well wait for am6 at this point.
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>>109143955
waiting for 12 core x3d so i can upgrade my 7800x3d
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>>109143958
The only real benefit would be more workload cores, right? Like I feel the 9850X3D is about as fast as it can possibly get for gaming. My 5070Ti is already the bottle neck in my set up.
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Why are the Amazon warehouse listings for motherboards fluctuating so much?
>First see use -very good
>Buy it
>Next day 6 used - like new
>Drops down to one
>Decide to buy that too and will return whichever is worse
>After I buy jumps up to 4 like new available
Surely there is not this much turnover in a random mobo, where do these numbers come from?
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Bro's PC went bust for good, salvaged his CPU while the newer parts get through mail. Managed to get a working AM3+ board from the local computer market fair.
>FX6300
>14GB DDR3 1333mhz
>RTX3060
>1Tb WD Green HDD
Should I go for windows 11/10 LTSC or Linux?
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>>109144038
>AM3+
you should go for the garbage
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>>109144038
>fx6300
holy third world
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>>109144038
tell him to get a new cpu, ram and motherboard instead of asking if he should install windows or linux (don't install linux with an nvidia gpu)
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>>109144041
>>109144042
>>109144044
It's not for him, I got him a 5800x3d and a 4070. That machine will be mine.
The 6300 is absolute dog shit but that faggot has been with me since college, some twenty odd years. I just something I can browse the web with while my main rig is left just for gaming.
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>>109144090
Are you gay lovers?
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>>109144090
do you kiss each other?
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I'm retarded and am going to buy the 9950X3D2 to be a good little paypig for Lisu Su, How bad is this?
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>>109144112
Not bad at all, you can easily ride this out till late AM6.
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>>109143973
>Like I feel the 9850X3D is about as fast as it can possibly get for gaming. My 5070Ti is already the bottle neck in my set up.
Cpus are way ahead of gpus considering gaming bottlenecks. In actuality it's the architecture of the cpu thats holding gaming back, but the developers create games with dogshit consoles in mind and then give the options to fuck with graphics. Inevitably that means that gpus are going to be the greatest bottleneck. What menu options does the game you play have that would hit the cpu harder? In most games there are none.
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>>109144104
>>109144110
Not often, but I did gave it the o'lick to ihs to clean off any residue thermal paste.
Thinking about, I forgot to repast the fucking thing after I stripped it off the dead mobo.
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>>109144124
buy a laptop for browsing, wildcat lake
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>>109144112
I mean you can, but it's not really useful unless you know it's built for you.
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running my 9070xt at -100cclock -95uv stable on every game for a week almost, no crashes EXCEPT for path of exile 1, it crashed in it after like an hour
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>>109144203
Means it's not truly stable
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>>109144121
NTA but I think my 3900x bottlenecks by 3090 gpu.
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>>109144233
They're already selling some memory but don't have a big enough supply to make a difference, you'll have to wait for them to expand which will take like 5years.
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>>109144233
I think at some point it's going to happen. There's still a massive consumer demand for ram and someone is eventually going to fill the hole that it's been left by SK hynix and crew.
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>>109144228
it's stable if I dont play poe, I just disable the undervolt for that game
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>>109144233
their fabs only get built at the end of the year and they'll sell it at market prices to recover the investments
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>>109144266
>>109144203
for me its wuthering waves. stable in all games except that one, have to dial it back slightly.
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>>109144233
you got gotted by wall street shitters' fomo
cxmt arent the ones saying they will topple western memory makers
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Will Intel ever take the preformance crown back from AMD? Intel seems to be more focused more their laptop cpu's than desktop.
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>>109144312
>wuthering waves
Gross. You're brown.
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>>109144341
Core Ultra 270K
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>>109144341
Intel and AMD should be joining hands to stop the ARM menace, not fighting each other.
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>>109144352
valve is working on making arm good
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>>109144352
x86 is so fucking outdated. It's time to move on.
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>>109144343
im black
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>>109144348
Just wait until GTA 6 comes to PC bro. Intel processors are king in that game.
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>both consoles use amd cpus and gpus
qöq
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If 3D cache is so good on cpu's, why isn't Intel doing it? Checkmate, Mr. Goldstein.
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>he doesn't know
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>>109144352
>>109144358
>>109144364
How good is ARM for desktops/laptops nowadays? For both performance and software compatibility. The battery life is good but intel's lunar lake processors and wildcat/panther lake processors also are doing well for battery life.
>>109144393
They are going to do it for nova lake though.
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>>109144364
I don't want locked down garbage
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>>109144406
At the start, ARM had fantastic battey life but still couldn't compete with heavy work loads like x86 processes. But Intel has already closed the gap with their Ultra line of laptop cpu's when it comes to battery life versus ARM.

I think realistically the only ARM processors that can compete with x86 in terms of workloads is Apple's M series. But of course, apples M series chips do come with their own set of problems.
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>>109144343
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>>109143152
is that supposed to be Chun-li?? looks like a different character.. also seems to be censored with pants
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>>109144448
Welcome to the new street fighter
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>>109144482
oh yeah, it's capcom...
explains the pants but why change her face so it's unrecognizable. previous games didn't have that problem.
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>>109144540
Faggots make me sick
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Which is the superior processor for gaming Ryzen 7 9800x3d, or Intel Core Ultra 7 265K?
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>>109144565
9800x3d
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>>109144579
damn, i managed to score a 64gb 5080 machine with 2400, but its got the damn intel processor. I might go down to a 32gb of the same price for a ryzen instead. fucking prebuilts man
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>>109144595
>>109144565
keep the 64gb and 265K imo. x3d's and am5 boards constantly go on sale and switching out the board+cpu will be cheaper than switching out 32gb for 64gb on the 9800x3d+32gb+5080 prebuilt
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>>109143152
>9070xt btfos 5070 also has 4gb more of vram
>5070 has superior DLSS/FSR
>5070ti is like 40% more expensive
fucking hell
is 12gb vram that cucked for AI usage?
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>>109144701
>AI usage
Be more specific.
In general it's totally usable, people get by with way less.
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>>109144707
I just wanted to do image gen
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>>109144719
It's fine
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>>109144701
12 is fine for imagegen
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so he gave up on red vs green because he needs (you)s and went back to good old blue vs red?
what a sad creature
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>just checked ram supply in my country
>plebs can get 32gig sticks with bad specs well enough
>48gig and up are extremely limited and mostly gone now
man, its just getting worse and worse for those who missed the boat. Upgrading my rig in early 2025 when i didn't really need to was the best financial decision of my life in hindsight.
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>>109144681
Not really? 2x16gb ddr5 on consistant sale is like 279. a ryzen 7 9800x3d is 400 alone, no to mention the motherboard.
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>>109144802
The only good way to run 64gb is 2x32gb which are really expensive right now
4x16gb causes stability or performance problems
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Do any of you guys watch the world cup?
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>>109144902
yes we watched Iran being robbed
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>>109144902
I got tickets for me and my future soon to be girlfriend.
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i want to upgrade my 4070 to a 9070xt but my 4070 is an FE is like so swaggy and the 9070xt is ugly in comparison and im thinking like umm i dont want to downgrade to an uggo card even if its a performance upgrade LOL
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>>109145100
>upgrade my 4070 to a 9070xt
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>>109145100
Buy a 5070ti or a 5080.
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>>109145100
Funny bait.
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i want to upgrade but realized i don't play much video games anymore
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>>109145211
Just start AI slopping.
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>>109145211
Just start doing drugs instead
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Thoughts on this build?
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>>109145260
Free case wtf
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>>109145266
Huh, I only noticed that now too, builder is providing some case selections for free.
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>>109145260
Can't find any worthwhile reviews on Gamdias, I wouldn't touch it
You can get tighter memory for cheaper.
I would be skeptical of ssds from some random builder, could be fake.
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Are we back to the era where pre-builts being on sale are cheaper than building your on?
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>>109145260
1TB drive is pretty small.
You should get a larger drive to bulk store stuff. Unless you're really willing to be frugal with your storage.
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>>109145324
I think so. I think even with the bundles at microcenter their prebuilts are probably a better deal.
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>>109144902
It's all I do considering my PC died months ago and I can't afford a new one.
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>>109145260
>that CPU
>that motherboard
>that RAM
That's the microcenter bundle
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>>109145260
>MSI Pro MOBO
Had. Don't recommend. Tomahawk enjoyer now.
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>>109145260
>everything premium but the PSU
kek everytime
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>>109145304
>>109145404
Would a Seasonic be a better brand? I felt pretty adamant on settling for an 850W PSU, didn't think there to be any need to go higher to a 1000W. I realize that that PSU is one of the more crucial parts...

>>109145326
I was thinking that but I've had a 1TB I've used since about 2014 and I never really had space issues, I've never been one to keep a lot of games downloaded and I just sort of uninstall and install as I like, I'm good on waiting the downloads out. I'm trying to keep things at around the $2700 range but 2TB doesn't seem to be that terribly more expensive so I'll think about it anon

>>109145376
Should I go up to the 9900x?

>>109145386
I'll take that to heart, thanks.

Thanks for the answers btw you guys
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>>109145100
get a 5080fe then
you're not poor, are you?
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>>109145417
Doesn't haver to be seasonic, just something that has existing reviews that are searchable, since sometimes even cheap brands have good components.
Also that PSU is not modular so you'll have the bundle of unused cables in your case.
>>109145426
>xx80
retard
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>>109145266
the vision is ass for gpu temps that's why
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>>109145417
Yes, go up to a 1000w, there's really no reason not to these days.
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Why my motherboard HDMI port creates some times small scan lines on the monitor and works with the I/O Shield attached?
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>>109145435
works only*
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>>109145435
>>109145444
probably needs some grounding from that io shield.
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>>109143278
How much you wanna bet againts 2019 hardware running them smoothly?
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>>109145674
Looks good to my eyes.
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>>109143209
Crimson Desert

RE Requiem
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>>109145944
>Crimson Desert
Korean shit, I played their MMORPG (as RPG, not actually retarded to waste time on MMO nonsense), it is very ugly. To be fair, it was good for the time (2010-2014 tech), but only if talking about graphics and maybe combat part of the gameplay. Everything else was shit. Asian storytelling sucks ass, as usual, so no meaningful quests, so no sense of purpose in any actions, you literally don't know what the game is about.
>>109145944
>RE Requiem
For ladies.
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Intel just feels better
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>>109144090
use a fucking smartphone/tablet instead of that ewaste
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>>109144090
>fx6300
10 years later, you can sell that rig as "glownigger proof machine" for 10x the price
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maybe a stupid question but what reasons are there not to do a micro ATX build? i can either upgrade my motherboard to a fullsize ATX or downsize my case to a micro ATX.
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>>109146492
micro atx have poor airflow. your components get hotter and louder and boosts slower.
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Physx in your browser
https://oimo.io/works/cloth/
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>>109146492
matx is as small as i would go. you get a good size reduction without losing much (if at all) and shorter air flow paths. you just have to get a good case and do some research on the part lengths (gpu, ram, cooler, etc.)
gpus are so big now that they take up the size of an matx board anyways when it comes to the pcie slots so you might as well.
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>>109146502
never going to be part of a good game.
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>>109146492
mini itx is da way.
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>>109146517
I just one next gen game with cape physics as good as Batman
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are mini cases good? is there any reason not to prefer them over full towers?
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>>109146634
It's a pain in the ass to assemble everything and you can't get to the mobo without disassembling the whole thing in most cases (pun intended.) Other than that they are pretty cool, (pun not intended) and satisfying to own, when everything works.
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>>109146691
would you say they are as cool as full towers? in terms of component heat.
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>>109146707
sure, but they should still stay below critical temps.
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Hello frens. Im from the Philippines and looking for a laptop around 650-750usd for my brother. Will be used for school work and light gaming (warcraft 3, valorant etc). I've built my own pc 5 years ago but now Im super confused on intel and amd cpus naming schemes. Not looking for a specific model but just advices on what cpu should I look for around my budget
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>>109146853
ask an llm, maybe they can keep track of laptop soc names
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intel bros...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-XceWITCQg
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9070 non-XT or 7900 XT at the same price?
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>>109146853
do you really want a laptop? Schools here in the EU use tablets. You would probably get better value if you buy a desktop pc, even if it's used.
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>>109146967
9070 and a bios flasher
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>>109146967
9070
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>>109146853
Get him used 16GB macmini/macbook M-series for school. And a jailbroken PS4. This should suite your budget. You'll protecc your brother from modern faggotry and grant him access to teh Golden Age of gaming. Separation of concerns included, as those are two different machines.
You can thank me later.
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>>109143152
NIGGA please dont tell me (you) overpaid for it... cause that'll be really fucking gay
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>>109147004
>jailbroken PS4
>Golden Age of gaming
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>>109147019
I consider it golden age not because 2014 and onwards is such. That's more like dawn of the golden age. But PS4 is backwards compatible with previous titles. Right before PS3 stopped being relevant it actually had games (shocking, I know) the same ones as xbox 360, plus there's some good ones from ps2 and ps1 even. I have not tried any emulation stuff myself, as there were plenty of remasters and such.
Also jailbroken 360 is very cool as well. I have both. Just in case. Barely fixed 360 after it died. They clearly planned it's obsolescence as reason it died was stupid. Some voltage regulator that is not worth even 1 cent. The guy in the shop gave me a replacement for free, not even joking. He was about to close it when I showed up and just gave me 3.3V voltage reg and wished good luck.
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>>109147012
congrats. why did you get one?
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>>109147061
>dawn
sunset
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what are the chances RAM/NAND prices are doubled again by this time next year?
>inb4 doom 'n gloom
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>>109147012
cool retro processor my guy
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>>109147069
already have an AM4 system, just needed a procie bump
>>109147093
(you)
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>>109147078
They might. There is literally no reason why those companies would stop increasing prices. They have a monopoly and nobody can do shit about it.
There is no objective reason, just their whims.
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I'm a retard and I didn't have any foresight last year aside getting a 2TB 990 EVO months before the RAM shitshow happened, so I'm currently forced to build a DDR4 with a R5 5600XT for work using Adobe shit. Not the best pick but for some reason AM5 CPUs are priced lower than AM4 and I can't spare more for tight budget reasons.

Is there any substantial difference between an R5 5600X and a R5 5600XT aside the extra 100 Mhz on the later? I found the XT slightly cheaper.

Also, what's a good use for a spare FX6300 with 32GB RAM? Is it worth setting a NAS or some other home server on this? I'd rather reuse this than send it to the trashcan.

>>109143203
I'm still rocking a FX 6300 with 32GB and an RX 580. It has always been way below subpar with anything rendering, but for some reason Adobe shit still works fine, mostly.

If anything it's disgusting how a lot of post COVID game titles have gotten so terribly unoptimized. CPU has always cucked me to different degrees but a good chunk of later "AAA" titles are straight unplayable thanks to Denuvo and other unneeded DRM trash. I played through Elden Ring by basically disabling Denuvo + multiplayer, kusoge has freezes every 2-3 mins otherwise.
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>>109147112
>some reason

amd released 5800x3d if you want something decent for gaming
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https://www.tomshardware.com/video-games/pc-gaming/denuvo-has-been-bypassed-in-all-single-player-games-it-previously-protected-2k-games-and-denuvo-reportedly-retaliate-with-mandatory-14-day-online-checks

speaking of which whatever came of this?
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>>109147123
I wish I could afford that. It would be like over 600-700 dollars for me after taxes, I'm not 'murican and I'm a poorfag so I have to deal with "premium" prices. If I could spare that much I would have gone for the AM5 platform with the current DDR5 RAM shitfest.
Sad that AMD never had a mobo chipset that allowed for DDR4 and DDR5 on AM5. Intel got the ASROCK H610M at least.
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>>109147168
>I'm a poorfag so I have to deal with "premium" prices
check with local retailers if they're really charging "premium"
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>>109146517
yeah, because good games haven't been a thing past covid
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Cheapest 5060TI is the same price as the cheapest 5070 in my country.
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>>109147112
am5 is cheaper because ddr5 is more expensive, so there's less demand for processors that use it.
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>>109145674
I played pragmata, 007, & stellar blade recently on a 5600x and a 3060TI and they all ran fine
007 and SB did push my gpu temps to 80-88ºC when playing at 1440p@60fps, pragmata was always at like 50ºC to the point i was thinking on increasing the fps to 75 or 90 to push the card a bit.
Just play videogames
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>>109147112
>what's a good use for a spare FX6300 with 32GB RAM? Is it worth setting a NAS or some other home server on this?
Absolutely not. Just keep the old hardware like this for use with old software, for a rainy day in the dystopian future. Install win7 or even XP on it and the software from the corresponding era. When you get some nostalgic fever on a random weekend. It's actually nice to have something like that, stashed in the closet.
> CPU has always cucked me to different degrees but a good chunk of later "AAA" titles are straight unplayable thanks to Denuvo and other unneeded DRM trash
True, but you should consider the fact that 2012 hardware is 14 years old. There was a considerable jump in CPU quality around 2016. 10 yo hardware is very different from 14 year old hardware. Compare it to something like Intel Core i7-6700K, huge difference, although they're only a few years apart.
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Does a 5800X3D bottle neck a 9070XT?
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>>109147634
in some cases, but generally not
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>>109147634
an am5 x3d would probably be better in some games, but its hard to say
it is kinda old cpu at this point
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>>109147634
It will in autism-sims.
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>>109147644
It's really not old. But I would not get one new today, that's a bit weird.
If you have something like that already, you keep it. If you have nothing, then get something better than 5800. Either that or a used CPU. Because CPUs are that kind of hardware that rarely breaks and when it does, it's very obvious.
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>>109147668
it's old enough to be slower than an intel e-core these days
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>>109147168
If you cannot afford current or even prev gen mid hardware, just buy used. It is better than hunting for binned e-waste.
>>109147355
5600 are actually great CPUs, They were once also very cheap used, a lot of people had them and tried to migrate to next gen. Not sure if it's still a thing, but I've seen people asking like 25-50 usd for one. Like dirt cheap.
Maybe not something to be hyped about, but when you have to build a PC or two for your family members, you quickly start ot prefer big value over latest hotness. 5600 priced like that is very high value per dollar.
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any anons have this unit:
>Alienware 27 240Hz AW2726DM (QD-OLED)

worth the $?
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>>109147722
Sorry Mr Anderson, but this is a mandatory pic.
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Ok show me what you got.
Let's assume you have an optiplex SFF desktop you bought for around 130$
So your task now; make this dell optiplex more performant than a steam machine but you are not allowed to put the system into another case.
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>>109147735
my qdoled ships with ULMB but it halves framerate, doesn't work with HDR and VRR making it a meme
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>>109147743
the flat single slot 4060, it even exists in a narrow variant, whatever cpu with a flat cooler. Idk about mobos tho because the prebuilt usually have proprietary mobos and normal ones might now fit inside.
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How bad are the temps on the M.2 slot behind the GPU? I imagine it's worse than the one above it because of worse airflow.
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>>109147743
You know, from what I've seen recently, it seems like Gaben won again. Everyone is talking about steam machine and companies (multiple of them) are trying to build a better steam machine for the same money.
Key detail: they're all building steam machines in the end.
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im stressed out from thinking about my ram suddenly failing, and when I rma the store says "out of stock" and refunds me 120€ for 32gb of ddr5
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>>109147921
Ok sure but can you make the optiplex build, please?
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>>109147907
It might be hot but not because of lack of airflow, GPU will simply dump a lot of heat under load straight into the m.2.
But how many times are you blasting your GPU and transferring huge amount of data at the same time?
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>>109147950
>€
Didn't your shithole decriminalise theft? Just go steal RAM from a bestbuy or something.
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My current pc is from 2011, mostly intact. Is there any chance a pc built in 2026 will survive for 15 years under regular use?
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>>109147954
True. Probably a custom shroud would help avoid this. Something that would act like a wall between SSD and a GPU, without preventing airflow for neither.
In general, 99% of the airflow and cooling problems in modern PCs are solved by cheap plastic shrouds. But they require custom CAD work, manual labor (even 3D printed parts require post processing), so nobody bothers. Easier to buy bigger goyming PC case with more LGBT LED fans.
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>>109147976
Sure since hardware progress largely plateaud
The biggest gpu thing would be getting a lot of vram, so if you bought a 5090 that would last the longest. Otherwise theres 4090 with 24gb or upcoming 50xx supers
For cpus theres a trap of getting an 8 core cpu which is terrible for multicore. Zen 6 cpu where 1 ccd has 12 cores + large amount of l3 cache would fare better.

Ram is another problematic thing, youd want 64gb for long term but its so expensive.
Psu, nvme, coolers, case are less problematic since theyre either reliable, dont impact perf or are cheap
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>>109147962
That only works if you're black
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>>109147962
>Didn't your shithole decriminalise theft?
Pretty sure that happened in 'Murrica. In EU theft is only decriminalized for members of organized crime groups they imported from Africa and ME. Those are the ones that famously get no punishment for wasting men and raping women and EU cucks then proceed to larp as merciful as if they have a say in what desicion the bribed judge will rule out.

Shit, world is kinda complicated these days. But was it simpler before?
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>>109148010
I'm not talking about vrams. I'm talking about failing components.
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I was going to buy a Steam Machine, but Gaben shafted me with the wait list. My current PC is an ancient AM3+ (FX 9590 and RX 6600) machine I built ten years ago and upgraded about five years ago, so I really need a new one and waiting a year isn't going to cut it.
I have some DDR4 I bought providentially before the RAM crisis. If I build around a 5800X3D and a 9070XT will I be good for another decade? Mostly for 1080p, I don't even have a 4K display right now.
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there was a used 9070 xt going for 799 canuck bucks last week and I didn't buy it
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>>109143809
>>109143813
the poorfag solution is an android tv box
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>>109148041
Your most likely failure would be 1 not maintaining thermal paste or putty on cpu/gpu
Mobo it perhaps the most likely to have a random failure somewhere
Otherwise each individual component that doesnt have some big manufacturing flaw would have a 1-2% chance to fail in the first 5-8 years. Silicon itself is unlikely to fail unless theres a software bug that pushes too much volts.
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>>109147976
No. If you want it to last, get "cold" used hardware. Aim for 14-22nm. If it's consumer tier hardware, make sure you UNDERclock it to make it run cooler. Ideally pick something that was not ever overclocked and temp cycled a lot.

Old hardware usually lasts decades. Newer will maybe last exactly one decade. But time will tell.
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>>109148051
There was a used PC with 128GB RAM, Ryzen 9 5950, 3090 with 2TB ssd that I did not buy last year for some ridiculously smol amount of money, don't even remember. Literally a maxed out AM4 rig.
It was cheaper than the RAM alone today.
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>>109148092
grim
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>>109148092
yeah we're paying thousands of south korean ram factory workers half a million$ bonuses by buying their shit at current prices
what else is new
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>>109148105
Was under the influence of
> Let me guess, you need more?
psy op. Fell for it.
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>>109148120
To be fair, it was not their idea. They just overheard management talking about margins and demanded their share.
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>>109143152
for gamers
just buy android tv box and geforce now abo
https://youtu.be/sgd3zKPSfdI
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>>109147743
just buy an extra psu, a PCIE riser cable and use those parts outside of the case. maybe make a hole for the riser cable with a dremmel tool. depending on the machine you might need to get an SSD for it. you might also need to swap out the cpu if it's a weak i3 or something.

>>109148046
At the current prices I'd just get a 150 (€/$) 5500x3d and literally whatever motherboard you can find. (b550/x570 are only worthwhile for the ram overclocking.) Or maybe something like a i7-12700k if you can get if for cheap.
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>>109143152
likelihood of core ultra 4 series being released only top tier (like njudea)?
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Was on facebook looking for cheap PC parts.
Ended up buying cheap 45lb plates for my at hole gym instead.
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>>109148231
Very low, but I don't think they will offer bottom tier CPUs anymore. At least for DIY market, they won't go lower than i5 tier.
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200$ for a 32 GB RAM kit? Good deal?

Problem is he lives a bad part of town, and is black. Might just try to rob me.
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>>109143203
>there is no GPU in the world that can run gaymes in 4k 240Hz without fake frames and upscaling etc.
This statement is always so retarded because the only games that hard to run are the boring ones that only faggots play
A 5070 Ti could run the best games at probably fucking 8K no problem, but no, because a 5090 can't run worthless trash like CP or other AAA slop at at 4K high FPS, that resolution is impossible
Subhumans.
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>>109148267
Based gym chad.
>>109148289
>Nicholas Swift Smith
Lmao, what a name.
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>>109148289
He stole it, what makes you think he wont steal from you? If you can't fend for yourself meet at the police station.
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>109148289
>listed 7 weeks ago
It's a trap.
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>>109148371
I'm an AMERICAN. So I do own a gun.
But meeting at a police station is a good idea either way.

>>109148378
I live in a pretty backwater area, people here don't buy computer stuff. I had a top of the line AM4 build listed for 800$ on Facebook and it never sold.
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>5070 ti
Which DLSS preset should I use : L M K J?
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I bought a 5800X3D because I didn't want to shell out the big bucks for DDR5 and will probably just skip AM5 entirely.
Am I retarded?
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>>109148497
from a what?
If you had say a 3600 or lower then thats fine, treat yourself, the 5800x3d is too pricey right now imo but it can help you skip AM5
If you had a 5600x or better and just bought it cause you just had to, then yeah you might be retarded and that money put together other pieces might have done better if your goal is for the rig to last until AM6
In the end nobody knows but you, 350€ right now would kill me but it might be chump change for you
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>>109148527
>put together other pieces
put toward*
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>>109148497
you know you wont think about the money few years from now but you will feel the better experience thanks to the improved cpu
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>sitting on a Tomahawk Max B450 and 3600
Grab a 5800X? The 5800x3D is pretty pricey.
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>>109148553
Wait some time to see if the x3d price goes down at all
non-x3d am4 cpus are ewaste
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>>109148564
I probably could do that. The 3600 still runs vidya, even if a bit as at times.
In the UK the x3D is still up for sale, so hopefully scalpers are going to get fucked.
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>played RTS on laptop with a raised desk
>get tennis elbow
remember ergonomics matter
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>>109148289
george flyod looking mf. its a trap.
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Picrel and a 5070 or a 9070xt if i can swing the extra 80€
Basically its a not totally the bottom of the barrel build.
Could save 40-50 picking an matx mobo but i enjoy the bigger boards.
Would sell my current AM4 for 500 or so to a friend, which means paying 1200-1300€ for this.
Any glaring mistakes? Any opinions?
Thank you.
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Is there a way to control the rbg on my ram without installing some manufacturer specific bloatware?
I got stuck using gskill rbg dimms in my build.
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>>109148497
I bought 5800X3D on release and still stand by my plan to skip AM5 / DDR5
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I've been perusing the anandtech forum discussion on RDNA 5 and I've concluded that these retards have literally no idea what they're talking about. Everyday I pray RDNA 5 releases one day sooner.
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>>109143279
dont buy a 83" oled unless top end it will be too dim
you gotta drop 4k on sale
or stck with 77 for qdoled
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>>109148603
Get openrgb. It supports RGB control for a variety of hardware and has basically zero resource needs other than whatever messed up CPU spinlocks are required for cycling RGB that was back engineered from official RGB software
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>>109148591
ssd looks kinda slow
you could save some shekels by buying slower cl36, since you aren't doing ai anyways
do you really need a new case when you are on a budget? Can't you just recycle an old one?
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>>109148636
Is your day job related to rdna5 design, bring-up or what
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>>109148603
I have to disable this shit as well, try OpenRGB.
But be aware you can fuck up your SPD by fucking around with those gay lights.
Yes, it's retarded.
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>>109148763
Not at all but you can tell these retards are just naysaying each other and constantly contradicting themselves, sprinkled with some diehard AMD haters.
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>>109148603
OpenRGB, and like other anon said, you want to fully disable that shit. Those RGB can heat up the sticks, and the DDR5 is sensitive to temps, high temps can cause instability if you have low tRFC/high tREFI
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>>109148761
>do you really need a new case when you are on a budget? Can't you just recycle an old one?
I would get rid of my current build altogether and sell it to a friend on the cheap
>you could save some shekels by buying slower cl36, since you aren't doing ai anyways
I just checked and there is currently 6000/36 ram for 100€ cheaper, so yeah when i pull the trigger i will be checking other speeds, this was more to get me an idea of where i stood
>ssd looks kinda slow
thats good info, i have no idea, i just set up a parametric on pcpp for the cheapest 4.0 nvme

Thank you anon
If anybody else can chime in it would be greatly appreciated.
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Im really REALLY glad i bought DDR4 64gb of ram before all this shit going worse
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>>109148811
Same, twin.
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>>109148811
People called me retarded for getting a 96GB kit for $280 a few years ago.
Now people are FOMOing over 64gb.
I rather have enjoyed "sensible" builders just get fucked.
They all the same same shit
>I don't NEED 64GB of RAM
>I don't NEED 10TB+ of SSDs
>I don't NEED 50TB+ of HDDs
You're already building a PC why are you trying to be sensible about it?
Fucking Reddit brained nonsense the last 10 years
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>>109148591
you maybe want an x3D cpu for gaming
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>>109148895
>you maybe want an x3D cpu for gaming
Out of my depth here but it is my understanding those mainly help with online games and autism simulators/builders with big ass worlds?
I just play Single player slop, movie games, action 3d, survival horror,rpgs, etc
But to my layman understanding an x3d wouldnt help me that much with those.
And a 7800x3d is like 130€, even a 7500x3d is like 50€ over the 9600x
Worth a think about anyhow.
Thank you
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>>109148857
yeah I learned that lesson years ago when I got told "i5 is enough for gaming" and believed them. These faggots never think of the future at all. I learned my lesson.
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>>109148857
>I don't NEED 10TB+ of SSDs
Based. Anyone who told me "you don't need that much space" when I got my 8TB gen4 nvmes a year ago can suck it.
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The only thing i regret is Choosing Ryzen 5700x instead 5700x3d.

Oh well.
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>>109148924
>I just play Single player slop, movie games, action 3d, survival horror,rpgs, etc
There's two main things a X3D CPU will do for you here.
1. Vastly better 1% lows on your FPS.
2. Vastly better latency. (more accurate character movement).

While you're right, they do help online games more. They are still a huge advantage for single player games as well.
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>>109148591
Get the 9070 XT over the 5070 if it's an 80€ difference.
Treat this PC as the last one you can afford to build.
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>>109148993
There is no such thing as enough storage.
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>>109148857
>>109148993
>>109148811
It's mostly those retarded tech tubers/tech sites. One site in my country is doing monthly builds list for various budgets. Even for the 3k or even 4k builds they wouldn't put more than 32 GB RAM, and they and their fanboys would retaliate with
>BUT WHY YOU NEED MORE??
>ENJOY PAIN MORE FOR NOTHING LOL
etc.
Obviously it's not only problem with those, it was mentioned many times that when you look at their actual PCs they look nothing like those they "recommend", sometimes it's exact reverse even
Ironically, they started to put more RAM into those builds after the prices went insane, kek
t. bought 64 GB RAM DDR5 6000Cl30 for around 200 USD
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>>109148857

Yes people are fucking retarded. The favorite thing to do here for years has been recommending saving 20-30 bux by getting an inferior PSU that barely handles the system.
As if anyone even remembered or felt that saved pocket change even a week later.
I got myself a 1500W PSU and I'll never need to upgrade it as long as it runs.
The mentality of "You don't need that bro" is so god damn stupid.
Mid range is a trap that will force you to upgrade more often and becomes more costly in the long run and with worse user experience.
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Jewfus sez nand prices are never coming back
Lenovo sez its the new normal
its over
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I feel like building a PC for fun, and am just going to sell it.

Should I do a classy looking low profile build with nice wood accents?
Or should I build a gaudy RBG vomit fest with lots of flashing lights, a fish tank case, neon colors?
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>>109149062
>>109149062
>Treat this PC as the last one you can afford to build.
Yeah this is what is moving me to build a whole computer instead of just slapping a new GPU on my current rig and truck on, i do believe darker times are ahead.

>>109149004
>While you're right, they do help online games more. They are still a huge advantage for single player games as well.
I'll keep it in mind but i fear that in the best case it would be a 7500x3d, the 7800 seems out of reach right now
It is what it is
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>>109149087
Any new Jewfus memes?
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>>109149090
i feel fish tank flashing lights would sell faster.
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>>109149094
>in the best case it would be a 7500x3d
That's honestly fine. CPU technology is way more advanced GPU technology.
Your GPU is going to bottle neck your build way more than the CPU. You would need to hit like 380 FPS in 1080p to throttle a 7500X3D. Which you're not going to do unless you put everything on lowest of low settings.

The only way an older X3D CPU will hurt you is if you do workload related stuff, such as video editing or large file photoshops.
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>>109149106
idk I haven't been watching since the consumer hardware halted to a stand still and i didnt buyed in tme and now im poor and priced out
its over
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you know its bad when you can smell the heat coming off your gpu
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>>109149215
I stopped trying to play any games at all and my TV overheated so I had to turn it off
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>>109149062
>9070 XT
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>>109148455
at 1440p? M at 4k?performance + L depending on the game
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>>109149411
>>109149411
>>109149411
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Guys please help me because I'm going crazy. TLDR: I'm trying to perform a clean install of windows 11 but after the first reboot of the installation I'm stuck in the bios and it won't load the SSD nor the USB drive to try and reinstall it again.

I originally ran into a Windows activation issue and, after troubleshooting, decided to perform a clean install of Windows 11 (also to reorganize my disk partitions). My system is:
>Motherboard: Gigabyte B660M DS3H AX DDR4
>CPU: Intel (12th gen platform)
>SSD: WD Black SN770 2TB NVMe

What I did:
>Created Windows 11 USB using Microsoft Media Creation Tool
>Tried multiple USB sticks (SanDisk 32GB + another USB drive)
>Created USB from both Windows 11 and Windows 10 PCs
>BIOS settings:
>CSM: Disabled
>Secure Boot: Enabled (deployed mode, cannot be modified)
>Boot mode is UEFI only
>USB is detected correctly as “UEFI: [USB name], Partition 1”

When I select the USB from the boot menu the screen goes black for 1 second, then immediately returns to BIOS / boot menu. No Windows installer ever starts.

Things already tried:
>Recreated USB multiple times (Media Creation Tool)
>Changed USB ports (rear USB 2.0 and USB 3.0)
>Reset BIOS to defaults
>Power drain (held power button with PSU unplugged)
>Verified EFI folder exists on USB (bootx64.efi is present)

The system always detects the USB in UEFI mode, but refuses to boot it and returns instantly to BIOS without error messages. I have no idea how to fix this. The computer has run without an issue since 2023, I just had to update the BIOS to the version F34 a week ago but everything went smooth until it started telling me the license was not activated because "error 0xC004F211 hardware change detected". What do I do now?
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>>109148289
Those are actually 0GB sticks.
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>>109143895
dgaf it was $1200 + tax Christmas special
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good goy



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