The search for a good Linux alternative continues
>>109146775The author is cooperating with efforts to get it running on WINE:https://forums.paint.net/topic/134148-getting-the-latest-pdn-version-working-on-linux-wine-work-in-progress/https://github.com/bluesillybeard/Paint.NETOnWinewhich would be better than nothing.
>>109146805good dev. Some windows devs are so retarded they can't even have the thought of Linux or they have a stroke.
>>109146775Dumb question but wouldn't paint.net be potentially portable through mono?
I use pinta works for me
>>109146775GIMP
>>109146872... until you want to move a selection
>>109146944>select thing>pick move tool>move selectionWow so hard!>b-b-but I wanted to move the pixels...CLOSED WONTFIX
>>109146775Photoshop CS6 Portable runs perfectly on GNU/+Linux and is completely free via the Archive. Also Photopea exists.
>>109146775Krita
>>109147159>pick move tool>it creates a new layer for some reason>try to move it>it moves the entire background layer
>>109146775A lot of hassle could be saved if Paint.NET becomes free software. There doesnt have to be years of work spent replicating its' functionality
>>109146775Is there any real reason why this can't run natively on Linux now that .NET is fully cross platform?
>>109146775https://www.pinta-project.com/releases/
>>109147186Just wait 30 seconds to crop an image theory
>>109146775have a look at kolourpaint
>>109146813No that's what the average Windows user is like in the average Linux's user's mind. Nothing but delusions detached from reality.
>>109146944Skill issue.
gimp not good enuff for you linux cucks?
>>109148351that is more clicks than doing the same thing in paint.net.thus, gimp is not a good paint.net alternative
>>109147756>I am entitled to the labour of otherstypical commie stallmancuck
>>109147170>uploading your projects shit to the clouddo lincux really? kek>>109147756Paint.NET is free
>>109148379Free as in cutting off your genitals, not free as in lube handed out at a Pride parade.
>>109148435>lincuck immediately thinks about self mutilation and homosexualitymemes become reality
>>109148379Think that anon meant open source with a permissive license. It was open source long ago but the author stopped releasing the source code. I've heard this is because he uses it as a platform to test out the newest dotnet libraries and constructs, placing those above performance. Some of the clones are based on the older open source version. >>109146861The creator of Mono tried that himself, maintaining a Mono version for a while but he eventually abandoned it, probably because the main branch stopped being open source.
>>109146805>https://github.com/bluesillybeard/Paint.NETOnWine>Paint.NET heavily relies on the Direct2D API (d2d1.dll), which happens to be severely underdeveloped in Wine.>It also relies on the Windows Animation Manager API (UiAnimation.dll), another underdeveloped component in Wine.does any other program depend on these shiny new windows toys?
>>109146813There are no windows devs it's the lowest slime imaginable smashing the create msi button from their wix plugin on Mac os visual studio
>>109146775Just learn how to use Photoshop CS6 or cc2015 it's been 10 years ffs stop being a noob
>>109148886cope>It started development as an undergraduate college senior design project mentored by Microsoft
>>109148351Is this bait? You didnt even move what you selected
>>109149788Do you know what "moving a selection" means?
>>109148511i don't understand why paint.net isn't open source. isn't it completely free and donation funded? wouldn't some deranged linux users or prompters port it over immediately? if the owner didn't want to deal with open source shenanigans he could just release the source code without allowing others to propose/make changes. even if he just released the source code one time, i've seen crazier projects ask and recieve porting to linux.
>>109146869>>109148008i cannot use and have ever used paint.net. how does pinta compare?
>>109148351yeah the problem is it needs that much clickssounds like a nitpick? every single shit is like that and it pilesgimp's ergonomics is such a dogshit
>>109149902because author got butthurt by some kids trying to take credit of his work.https://blog.paint.net/2007/12/04/freeware-authors-beware-of-“backspaceware”/
>>109149902He did release it "one time" but that was a long time ago.
>>109149788you can just cut it out and paste it back in or maybe there's an even easier method I'm not aware of.
>>109146775paint.net is literally part of the reason I haven't migrated yet.
>>109149823nobody reads that as not moving the content you disingenuous piece of shit. moving the content of the selection is the baseline. your crapware is bad and you should feel bad
>>109149953Paint.net feels clunkier and clunkier with each new version. Pinta feels old. Overall I like Pinta better as it feels more consistent. The biggest advantage of Paint.net is the large number of plug-ins. Pinta has fewer and they're not directly compatible. Some authors release versions for both.
>>109150800you have to create a "floating layer" before you can move the content, because of fucking course...
>>109150919>Paint.net feels clunkier and clunkier with each new versionHow so?
>>109151225Loads slow, with each pane slowly showing up. It didn't used to be that way. If you have a newer computer, especially with an NVMe drive, it's less noticeable, but on older systems with SATA, they've done something to increase the load time. What others have said is the author is a bit of an architecture astronaut who refactors things into all kinds of layers of abstraction that cause far more objects to be loaded and created but since it's not open source, there's no way to know this for sure.
>>109148008gpt generated slop website
>>109149996LMAOFucking windows developers are toddlers, this guy is a loser. He's even making up fake stories about where the guy works because he's so pissed anyone would DARE to use his source code. Next time someone asks me about everything, musicbee, paint.net, I will just remind myself that these developers are probably just as retarded as this, and that's why they withhold source code and try to keep users locked into their software on windows.
>>109146775If Kubuntu doesn't work for you, then there is only one OS left for someone like you brother. You have to switch to TempleOS.
Good bloatless versions of Photoshop like CS6 work without a single issue on Wine now. There's no need to reinvent the wheel. Image editing was solved.
I just use gimp on both systems.it's good enough.>>109148304Yeah, Windows Users don't care.
>>109152855Yeah, I use both GIMP and Paint.NET on Win11. I'm not prejudiced against FOSS, in fact I try and seek out FOSS alternatives whenever they're actually good. Desktop Linux is an irrecoverable mess, hence why I prefer to take modern Windows, rip some of it's guts out and run that. It's pretty comfy.
>>109152874What's the last time you tried using linux as a desktop os?
>>109150907nta but i had to google how to do that honestly
>>109153955I'm not switching, sorry. Find someone else to bother.
>>109154002it's so bad
>>109154002>nta but i had to google how to do that honestlyThat's the problem with Gimp, they copy other image editors without understanding what makes them also good to use.Gimp has the features and the looks, but lacks in the usability department.
>>109154002I tend to Ctrl+C Ctrl+V my selections, though with GIMP 3 that no longer makes a floting layer but rather a fully separate one.
>>109146775Just use GIMP
https://www.pinta-project.comretard
>>109154495Green Is My Pepper
>>109146775This, n++, and even MinGW.Is there any actual useful freeware that Windows doesn't either have a port of or a better version of?If some retard says "pacman" I'm going to hit them. Especially because winget exists.>>109146813You're abusive charity cases and should be ignored>>109152874gimp has every feature including a few I want but can't get with Paint.NET plugins, to the point I actually did try to use it for a while, but it's simply just so shit. Linuxsaars cannot, will not, shalln't design competent UIs ever.
>>109146775I actually delayed my full switch to Linux because I did not find something simple complete enough to do my basic manipulations and simple enough to be easy and work on my ancient 2011 laptop. I ended up using that obsure Lazpaint, which feels clunky and obsolete but actually does what I want.
>>109154358There's been many proposals over the years to hard fork Gimp, giving it a new name and clean sheet UI design, while making use of the existing internals. Nobody cares enough to actually go through with doing it.
>>109154061Not him, but fall 2025.I tried three distros in VMs.Two new meme ones and one Mint current standard, same as usual.The distros are just not good.I believe you that they've made leaps and bounds in usability and behind the scenes bloat and/or correctness whichever side of whatever the most current Linux "community" civil war you're on.In fact I'm sure in two more weeks repos will be updated and version compatibility of things that are supposed to work together will be fixed and if I were to apt-get everything at that moment and copy and paste in the right version of the unnecessary secret handshakes in shell to set things up in the OS to actually work with what everyone uses as the default basic programs, and download the compounding upstream dependencies, that basic programs would work consistently (after a few searches and reading through good ol' StackOverflow snark!)And theoretically the security is amazing I mean you can turn so many things off and wifi doesn't work by default!But the only thing is that I want to use my OS to do things with, like create or save written documents and notes, image editing, downloading and sorting and storing AND playing media, sometimes in multiple different formats even but I want them all to play in one thing like VLC does in theory or MPC-BE does in practice!And so doing perpetual software maintenance and setup and fixing on the OS is not actually why I install the OS, because that isn't my hobby and I think it's a retarded hobby for anyone to assume that everyone must or should have if they use computers.So for me it's current cursed fallen retarded edition W11 because after you unfuck it the first time it stays mostly unfucked between occasional major updates.
>>109154634meant for>>109153955
>>109154516>AIslop website
>>109154634>>109154641Understandable. I use linux because it makes me feel good knowing im using free software and I simply prefer the programs that are made with linux in mind.
friends just turned me onto drawpile feels like krita but networkedhttps://drawpile.net/
>>109148877no, sane people make portabel code not code that depends on windows only api calls and systemd linux
>>109148191works on my machine
>>109146944>drag to select>^x^vm>drag to moveSure it could be simpler but it works and takes way less time than bitching about it.
>>109146775Krita is good
>>109146775Pinta moggs this trash.
>>109154358you are just use to pickin cotton on adobe plantations.
>>109155327just as I thought. all I could find was cross-platform frameworks that use these windows components as an option, not a hard dependency.
>>109154550>If some retard says "pacman" I'm going to hit them. Especially because winget exists.even pacman can be used under MSYS2 and has these packages on offer: https://packages.msys2.org/packages/
any alternative to this is good
