WHEN WILL THEY STOP PUTTING STICKERS ON THIS FUCKING PACK OF RAMTHE RAM LITERALLY LITERALLY HAS DUST ON THE TOP OF IT THE EDGES AND CORNERS ARE BENT AND FRAYEDTHE PACKAGING IS BARELY HANGING ONTO THE PLASTIC HOLDER THERE IS BROWN DIRT HUMAN FINGERPRINT GREASE ALL OVER THE FRONT OF THE BOX STOP ADDING NEW STICKERSSTOP JACKING UP THE PRICERAM WILL NEVER BE WORTH $4000
>>109150623Just get 96g (2sticks 6000mhz), I got mine for 1800 euro
>>109150623And remember, they must have bought that kit of RAM back when it cost THEM less than the original sticker price.Now they're trying to sell a kit they paid less than $300 for for over $4000.
>>109150623>RAM WILL NEVER BE WORTH $4000It is to open ai
>>109150623>64gb ddr4 kit i bought for $99 in 2025 is now worth $560god damn bros
If you look at what micron/samsung/skhynix are doing they're basically selling all of their chips for datacenter margins. Their actual datacenter margins are up only a little but retail going from retail to new datacenter margins is a big jump.But that said the people buying the modules for retail are price gouging on top of that, and so are the actual retailers.
>>109150623The problem is that if they sell it below market value, someone will clean out their whole supply and resell it immediately at $4,199.99 because this is the true market value.
>>109150623>obscene amount of the fastest ram available>obscene priceWhat are you expecting anon?
>>109150623I'm imagining some fat autist going into microcenter everyday taking pics of the ram and fuming out of the store
>>109150623>>109150678Haha don't worry friendo. Corsair is sourcing their chips from China because they're way cheaper than what they're getting from South Korea.So they'll soon pass the cost savings down to you, and DDR5 ram won't be x10 the price. The price is come down, surely and shortly.
Those are just boxes right? It has to be
>>109150623IT'S NOT FAIR. CAPITALISM IS SUPPOSED TO FIX THIS.
>>109150623just remove the top stickers
>>109150623> when will it endIndications haven't rly changed since winter: Probably sometime in 2027, give or take a couple months.
>>109150658Crazy, I got my 96gb kit for 280 euros
>>109150853>>109151339
>>109151339>Indications haven't rly changed since winter: Probably sometime in 2027, give or take a couple months.Lmao gigacope
>>109151339Micron's CEO said the other day that they won't even start catching up to demand until 2028, and that even then it'll be a long time until prices actually come down.
>>109151497>be a memory manufacturer>create strong pressure for someone to innovateYeah so nobody ever invents any technology, so I'm sure the ram industry is secure.
>>109151339Microsoft said they expect component prices to double by fall of 2027. So no, there is no end in sight. Nobody can realistically predict all the way out past 2028 so that effectively means storage and memory will just keep getting more expensive for the foreseeable future
>>109151497Yeah. People are coping hard. If you didn't buy ram by early 2025, you're not buying it again for a reasonable price til 2030 at least. 32GB is still more than enough for my use case, but I may be feeling the squeeze by 2030. Had I known it was the last chance for a while I would have bought more. The same used ram kit I bought in early 2025 for $100 is around $400 last I checked.
>>109150623>Looking at RAM out of curiosity a few days ago >256GB DDR5 for ~$1,200 >Hey that's a pretty good deal actually >Realize I had the wrong filters applied >It's actually 64GB good god man. I wish I bought 256GB last year when it was like $900. Do I need it at the moment? Hell no. Would I find a way to make use of it if I went out of my way to do so? idk, maybe. Would it be good for future proofing given the high possibility RAM prices won't come down any time soon? Yes. Would it be a hard flex to post on /g/? Absolutely lmao Also I'm surprised crackheads haven't started robbing Micro Centers yet.
Rob the MicroCeter. Niggers do it all the time. Embrace diverse culture.
When I built my first high-end computer in 2007, top of the line memory (speed+quantity) from the best brand cost me $243.99.
>>109150623i hate everything. everything I even want as soon as I want it is fucked. My mom died my first year of college and just every time there's even a chance for something I'm just a little too late
>>109151607What are you using now. ddr5 isnt a massive upgrade over ddr4
>>109151620Idk I was going to maybe get an AI pc but I really wanted more hard drives
yikes>you could buy a whole Strix Halo 128GB chinky minipc for the price of those ram sticks
>>109150623just remove all those stickers until you get to the bottom one that says $300
save the world emperor xi
>>109151691Most likely companies like corsair are going to use those chips and sell the modules for the same prices they're at now
>>109150817Well. That's still money for them, presumably a profit over what they bought it for, instead of a box of RAM collecting dust in their store and waiting for a brownoid to come steal it. What do they care how much someone sells it for after it's out the door? I guess the reality is that they are still moving even with the new price, even if it's far slower than it would be otherwise, the new markup justifies the wait
>>109151713>china will ramp up production while still making huge profits>eventually they'll catch up with demand and prices will go down>use excess capacity to dump and crush the micron/samsung/sk hynix cartel forever and assure chinese dominance
they are absorbing crypto gains
>>109151713They're in it to make a profit, ram prices wont go down. high prices will just become normalized, everything else will go up in price as well as the dollar loses value, if you boughted in 25 youre smart, if not, better cough up some cash
You're supposed to vibecode your way into becoming a multi-millionaire so you can afford it
>>109151338>>109151688Shrimple as.
>>109150853This is never going to fucking happen.
>>109151510This is actually true and what happens when cartel forces push governments into favoring only businesses that operate at scale. This is why the Tesla run up was such a big deal, it's hard as fuck to start a car company. The same thing is true with chip fabs but worse because the tech is so much more difficult to make. The only way is for a state actor to throw their weight behind you or for huge amounts of capital to suddenly find expertise that was untapped. Could a hardware startup get acquired and judo flip the market? Sure but good luck finding anyone who doesn't like charging huge margins for tried and true products and is actually willing to invest in new production. Rip consumers everywhere.
>>109150711No, it is in the wrong form factor. OpenAI requires RDIMMs at minimal.
>>109151691>>109151713cxmt sells their ram to SIs and ODMs at roughly the same price as the other 3 companies. they'd be dumb to do otherwise
>Boughted DDR5 desktop and gayming laptop 3 years ago and last year respectivelyI need another computer for my other house but I can wait.
please tell me there's a silver lining to all this?my biggest fear is that they are pricing everyone except major companies out of the market so they can sell you a cloud subscription to Windows Cloud (or whatever), where they then control every aspect of your system.
>>109152201There's no silver lining to this anon it will only get worse it will be just like the koof and crypto boom.Njudea saw people paying 500 dollars for a 1050Ti in 2021 and they figured they could get away with delivering as little value as possible for as high of a cost as possible which is why we still had overpriced trash like the 5060 8GB even in 2025 during the crypto/AI interimNothing will ever be the same the goycattle have been conditioned to pay 3k for a 16GB ram stick pandora's box is open and there's no closing it.
Still waiting for China to step in and undercut the market with ddr5 ram.
>>109152443corsair is getting some china chips for some of their ram, but it's only a bit cheaper for them, not the savior moment people hoped for, at least it'll tickle the balls of the big three a bit
>>109150623maybe
>upgraded January 2025I'm set for a decade, feels good man
>>109152443that's a gay boy fantasy at this point
>>109150623when AI needs their own flavor of RAM, unsuitable for normal computers.as in the moving from general cpu to asics, but for memory.
Just steal it anonIf you're smart you can figure out a wayI'm against stealing in general but when retailers and distributors are openly raping consumers make them suffer
>>109150623the jew is making money, what do you mean "end"?
>>109151334>IT'S NOT FAIR. CAPITALISM IS SUPPOSED TO FIX THIS.Now imagine if we had anarco-capatalism, over the system we have now.
>>109150623oh nooo haha. that sucks
>>109151334Capitalism is the reason why ram is so expensive right now. It's a system that rewards psychopaths for creating convoluted structures where prices are arbitrarily bloated for higher profit margins and the consumers (the stupid ones) are manipulated into believing it's necessary. The massive lobby industry makes sure to maintain corruption so companies can get away with these hostile practises and gouging. We are closer than ever to the you-will-never-own-anything-and-you'll-be-happy thanks to capitalism, not socialism. Capitalists shit on socialists for having middle men but like we can see with car dealerships in the US, capitalism produces more middle men than socialism ever has.
>>109150623Literally looks like it was 199.99, but somebody drew an extra 4 at the beginning. kek
do i understand correctly that if i only play old games that work with integrated GPU and do not mine any crypto, this has no impact on me at all?
>>109152740The problem is the production is the limit, if fab time and wafers are used for AI memory squeezing in time for normie memory will still be expensive
>>109152931and you think the solution is to make nancy pelosi own all of the ram and food and everything else by default without anyone else being allowed to sell it to you and without you being allowed to buy it from anyone else, and you think this will fix ityour death will fix it
>>109153098Yes, under communism you will be way too poor to own a PC, it's out of the mind just like a mega yacht.
>>109151904>wrong form factordoesn't matter. it's about the chips and fab capabilities.
I bought my DDR4 RAM back in 2018 when it was so expensive, that the current prices might actually be a bit lower than what I paid for.It's an abstract kind of a feel thinking these current prices aren't all that bad because my reference point is so fucked up.Get ready for these prices to last a long ass time, AI isn't going anywhere despite youtubers screeching about a market collapse in two more weeks.Even if the market lost half of it's value it doesn't mean shit, because a lot of the AI infrastructure is being built and the orders are backlogged for years.Anyone thinking that Chinks are going to undercut the market by +50% and leave profit on the table is insane, there's no reason to do so.If you need something then you just bite the bullet and buy it, it's not going to get any better before 2030 and even then it's going to be a slow burn.
>>109150623You will enjoy the bubble!
>>109150623>RAM WILL NEVER BE WORTH $4000Is that a challenge?
>have 128GB DDR4>never use more than 64please don't die. please don't die. please don't die.honestly, I am tempted to pull out half of it just in case something bad happens to my PC and it fries my RAM sticks.
>>109152894I don't think it will in this case. too much talk about AI being a bubble. fabs don't want to be left holding the bag, so they don't invest in new lines. and with insanely high entry cost, I wouldn't expect significant competition to appear any time soon. this might be one of those cases when market can stay inefficient for a very long time. it would be ironic if fabs, being afraid of the upcoming crash, would actually bring the crash themselves because of chip supply being insufficient to keep the AI grift going.
>>109152918>CL40
>>109153172Honestly not a bad idea, but really just get a UPS, I did *after* a blackout took my then GPU and 2 of my 8 ram sticks..
>>109150623this is the new normal and there is nothing you can do about it.
>>109151736But they can't make a profit if no one buys their shit and they haven't been very successful at normalizing 900$ kits so far. Too many people have been delaying tech purchases now and trying to leverage FOMO against customers can only work to a extent.This situation is raping OEMs like Apple just as hard as end consumers and possibly even more, that's why I think it won't be sustainable in the long term. That's not to say prices will ever come back down to what they were before, but they also won't stay this high forever, or for more than two years really.
>>109153316I don't think anyone cares about the consumer market atm. you're supposed to prompt AI and doomscroll tiktok with your little phone, pay your subscriptions on time, and be happy.
>>109153316>>But they can't make a profit if no one buys their shit and they haven't been very successful at normalizing 900$ kits so far.Micron investor document thing said they were very pleased with their profits after pivoting to high end device pricing
>>109153206this sounds really convincing to me honestlyand regarding prices, ddr6 might have an impact, if we do ever get there
>>109152931>Capitalism is the reason why ram is so expensive right now.It is, it's supposed to work when government breaks up monopolies but in our current economy they are allowed to exist. You can thank Reagan for that. Only thing that jewnigger ever did good was dying.
>>109153098Nancy Pelosi is a capitalist. You have two capitalist parties in the US and your frame of reference it's so poor that it's sad.
>>109150623Not anytime soon.
>>109153355Oil companies also bring in record profits during oil hikes, it's car companies, airlines etc. that suffer.>>109153351What little phone? That's the entire issue here, people will also delay buying new doomscrolling devices, it doesn't just affect nerds and gamers which are if anything a minority with higher willingness to pay than average.
>>109153430you can still get a perfectly capable chinkphone for well under $200. I wouldn't worry about this segment too much yet. but yeah, high-end devices will get expensive.
>>109153098no nacy pelosi is a capitalist and a libtardshe would have already been executed along with yourself for anit-revolutionary speechit's literally not your problem what happens next
>>109152061>for my other house
>>109153471Hence why I said OEMs suffer this shortage even more than customers. The current strategy of keeping hiking prices can't go on for very long so at some point they will have to do something about their supply (renegotiate their contracts, buy from chinks, lobby for government intervention), but that can't happen until more fabs go online.
>>109152061give me one million dollarsi know you have the moneyjust do it, fag
>>109150623anon, we are in the war times
>>109152201Stop reading all the doomerism. The chinks and even the Poles are working to fill in the gaps. RAM prices have only been crazy for 6-7 months which is not the end of the world. SSDs are already coming down. Will RAM follow? Probably not for a while, but I think it will come down eventually. Back to where it was? Probably not, but who knows.
>>109152201>so they can sell you a cloud subscription to Windows Cloud (or whatever)they don't care if you have a computer at all
Powers that be tell you you won't own anything by 2030.Shocked pikachu face and throwing a tantrum about when will prices go down.Everyday the prices will increase and every day corporate sponsored scalpers will be buying used hardware to destroy it so you can't get anything.And for the idiots who believe their current pc are safe, government mandated id's for internet and electricity will just blacklist anything you have.And for even bigger idiots believing they can go off the grid, they will just tax you into oblivion if you aren't on the grid.Buy legal cheap games/programs since that's all you will have access to in less than 5 years.
>>109153603>The chinksOpenly told you they are in to sell AI ram and consumers can fuck themselves.>Poles Anon...>RAM prices have only been crazy for 6-7 months which is not the end of the world. SSDs are already coming downYour house has only on fire for a couple of minutes, it will magically get better.Every major memory maker is telling you this will last until 2050 minimum.Be a retard and magically believe otherwise.>SSDs are already coming downNice made up graph, now go to a store and actually buy one for that cheap. Ohw ait, you can't. SSD prices have increased by 60% just this month.> but I think it will come down eventuallyThe companies don't want that, the investors don't want that, the politicians don't want that. Only irrelevant consumers want that.
>>109150623I just bought Kingston fury blabla ddr5 32gb on sale! Only paid 499 euros! The regular price was 550 so I really got a good deal!
>>109152201>Nice made up graph, now go to a store and actually buy one for that cheap. Ohw ait, you can't. SSD prices have increased by 60% just this month.What's the purpose of lying like this just to keep jerking off to fear porn? I just went on Amazon and found it at 335 EUR, and other similar SSDs at even less, not him btw.
>>109153948holy shit, did you remember to tell your family the great news and celebrate over steak and wine afterwards?
>>109150658>Just pay $1800 for what should cost $250 at most, goyim, come on, don't be stingy.The ram kit on OP's pic is there since before the alleged shortage. Retailers are just taking advantage of the situation to fuck customers, as always, as they did with GPUs years ago.
>>109151334we don't live in a capitalist society, we live in a fascist society and it has been that way since the 1930s
>>109151643>maybe get an AI pcrope
>>109151776this unironically
>>109150817And I blame amazing and newegg as open markets that facilitate and benefit from scalping
>>109153603>Polesthe only thing they can do is buy from China and resell in EU
>>109152894Why are we in this situation to begin with? The DRAM cartels have been operating for decades and it was only a matter of time until need exceeded production.
Why do people think the new Chinese DRAM makers will "save us"? Why would they do anything other than joining the cartel for 800% margins? I can't understand the people that think RAM prices will go down if """competition""" is back on the table, they didn't invest BILLIONS and even stole corpo intel just to save consumers.
>>109151334>>109152931"capitalism" is now a loaded term from marxist retards, so of course it can be immediately discardedWhat would fix this is having a free market and no intellectual property laws, which means anyone could just start a semiconductor company and sell whatever tech they want to sell. AI could buy whatever amount of RAM it wants to and the market would keep regulating itself to meet the consoomer demand.Right now you're locked to waiting for China to do anything because they're the only ones with power to do anything. They have the balls to just use IP from other companies and they can forcefully dump a ton of money on businesses of interest.
>>109151510https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MemristorAny day now!
>>109152887Ackshully what we have currently is judeo-vulture-capitalism.
>>109150623why do you need ram?
>>109150658I bought 384 for $200...
