he was right
>>109151405this is why gimp fucking sucks
>>109151405ItJustWorks.
>>109151405> oh pleasse linux sir fix it
>>109151405linux is usable without a manual. it's been a normie usable daily driver since 2011 becuase most people just use their web browser for everything
I've always found this guy to be an annoying borderline schizophrenic midwit, but I'll never forgive him for starting the underage clippy cult.
>>109151405lmao, an iPhone or Mac aren't intuitive to use at all.When i first had to deal with them, i had to try&error constantly to do the most basic stuff.
>>109151556>FOSSNEET cant figure out a simple iPhone>claims to be a tech geniusKEK
of course you don't need a manual for an apple device WHEN IT FUCKING DOES NOTHING
>>109151574wasnt Apple supposed to be "the Computer for the rest of us" and appeal to the most drooling retards, because for some undeclared unknown reason, we REALLY want more idiots on the internet?
I tried to do like arch + sway and stuff and ive realized that as much as I like being able to config things I don't want to come home and read a fucking tech manual every time I try and open a picture with the right size in feh or get something to work at startup
>>109151405There's nothing to fix, it's effective gatekeeping. Linux doesn't need more normies demanding features and automation the vast majority of the userbase doesn't want, or wants to implement their own way manually. We have enough trouble with that already.
>>109151546he is somehow considered siccessful, while>his right to repair campaign failed on all levels>his repair shop failed and is a data recovery shop now (the opposite of repairing stuff: making it less painful when something dies and has to be thrown away)>tells people to just stfu and accept it when a corpo rapes them>clippy as silent disobedience to tell the evil corpo: "look, i will still buy your stuff, but i want you to know that i dont feel happy while i give you money"not a single clippy kid improved his own situation
>>109151600that's alright, it's better for both sides if you stay far away
>>109151405>the OS where you have to google magic keyboard shortcuts just to see the filesystem root>no manual needed>>109151580/thread
>>109151611>tells people to just stfu and accept it when a corpo rapes themAre you blatantly misrepresenting his position on purpose, or have you seriously never watched any of his videos?That is genuinely so backwards that I actually don't know if you're trolling or retarded.
>>109151405The largest issue with Linux right now is Gnome (RedHat) and how they try to appeal to retards, building an idiot tablet UI and demanding everyone else to change for them.RTFM culture has to come back. It needs to be acknowledged that appealing to idiots doesnt improve things. We have a case study proving that it makes things work.The goal should be to either educate or gatekeep.If you are tech incompetent and not interested, that is fine... then stay away from the internet.
>>109151405>consumers d o not want to RTFMtough.Get out
>>109151626what does the clippy thing do?Making people feel like they are doing something, while letting corpos rape them.Don't you see how this is counterproductive and harms the very cause he claims to support?
why do all these tech youtubers seem to struggle with basic stuff? i don't have these problems with normie distros like ubuntu
>>109151654You seriously have never watched a single one of his videos, then have you?He regularly tells people to not buy products that don't respect their rights. He regularly tells people to actually do things in real life. show up to city council meetings, write to their councilor, write to congress, to stop buying products made by bad acting companies.He literally created an entire wiki and encourages his audience to document every single time a company fucks them over so that people can avoid buying from those companies.
>>109151666Actions count more than words.Telling people to use a clippy avatar to signal to corpos that you disagree with them, while they are still buying corpo crap, is defeatism.You basically gave up and accepted your defeat and do something to make yourself feel better.It's like living in 1984 and thinking "oh, but as long as i can think that 2+2=4, i am still part of the resistence!"
People only use Linux so they can feel superior to everyone else when in reality nobody gives a fuck and laughs at them because linux is complete shit.
>>109151666also do you think that telling people that you have to "render an xrandr command" to use Linux is going to be helpful in getting away from corpos, or isn't he providing yet another excuse for normies to keep being cattle?>oh yeah, fuck Micrsoft and fuck Apple, those evil corpos, but i just have to use their products, because i dont want to render xrandr commands, so i dont even try, someone else should fix it
>>109151693so you are saying that the introduction of the smartphone, which led to an influx of idiots on the internet who were previously gatekept, didn't cause a decline of quality and that the internet is much more awesome now with those billions of retards?
>>109151687You are extremely fixated on the clippy thing. I don't know if that's just because you're mega ultra autistic, or because you're just seeking desperately for something to criticize Rosman for. At this point you're just making shit up about him to convince yourself. Choosing clippy as the avatar for the movement was fucking stupid, but the idea is to increase visibility so that other people are regularly reminded that they aren't alone in caring about privacy or ownership. The visibility aspect OBVIOUSLY FUCKING WORKS, considering how butthurt you are every time you see a clippy. >>109151698He's just pointing out that Linux isn't normie friendly. Which is absolutely true.Seethe all you want about it but it's true.
>>109151708What's that have to do with what i said?
>>109151693maybe in the distant past, when setting up wifi drivers required you to sacrifice a goat. Nowadays though? Windows is utter garbage and getting worse every update and macos is for fags. Enjoy your react start menu and shit i guess
>>109151711He says that you have to "parse an xrandr command". Those are his words.It's a lie. A lie that prevents people from switching away from corpo garbage.Ask yourself the question:>Is it helpful?That is the litmus test to spot controlled opposition.He can say many nice things, but when he then steers people into a harmful direction (wasting your time or taking the spot from other, more capable, people is also harmfil) it means that he is at best controlled opposition.Whether he acts knowingly harmful or accidentally (because he wants to farm youtube sheckles) doesnt matter.
>>109151744>Windows is utter garbage
>>109151712who was you reply targeted towards, if not to the subject of this thread that is about how we have to appeal to idiots and make things usabe for drooling retards?If you just threw an unrelated opinion into the void, whats the point?
>>109151693I choose linux because I didn't like windows. if I install windows I have to go through a long list of things I have to do to make it less obnoxious and if I reinstall I have to do that all over again. with linux I have to go through a long list of things I want to get and if I reinstall I still have my home folder so most things I have made changes to are still there.
>>109151758Just don't forget to verify your age :)
>>109151750it's shit, not completely non-functional yet (give it time though)
>>109151765Never had issues with it. Not sure what everyone is doing that they have so much trouble.
>>109151405Yes
>>109151693Yu are thinking like a woman and believe that the only reason, why someone would do something, is in relation to what other people do.Doing something because you want to be better than others is just the same as doing something because everyone else is doing it: The majority cattle opinion steers you.I use Linux because i like it.
>>109151750
>>109151767look, you like eating poo and see no problem with it, i don't. That's the difference between jeets (You) and white people (me).
>>109151790I do like eating my girl's shit so you got me there
>>109151405>Install Ubuntu Desktop LTS>Sign in to Ubuntu Pro>DoneHow hard was that? Not very. Your bullshit memes are out of date. Not that I use Ubuntu, but if you want the no-manual experience, that's how it's done.
>>109151711>but it's trueIs it true that you have to parse an xrandr command?If not, then he is lying.
>>109151780thats the garbage that idiots claim is easier to use, lol
>>109151842Now show us how to install some linux drivers
>>109151866there will be a popup in ubuntu, that some hardware drivers are found, you click on it once and it installs them. what was the problem?
Apple fags really want to pretend it's all implicit, when there's trillions of tutorials for everything just like windows
>>109151866Why would i have to install drivers?>plug device in>it worksYou still have to install drivers on windows? As if the Windows 11 context menu screenshot wouldnt be bad enough, you are telling me that wincucks still have to care about drivers?
>>109151405>Apple makes products that come with no manual. That everyone knows how to use.Go ahead and automount a network share on Mac.Do it without manual.
>>109151866my amd drivers are built and shipped with the kernel, what now?
>>109151546You are literally just an anti-social contrarian faggot who hates anyone popular.
>I ran into an issue with a specific thing>that's why the whole ecosystem sucksEveryone that does this is a fag regardless of what OS you do this with especially when you have a large audience that doesn't know how to sort out what you actually said from your general complaints, that this one part of x11 gave you problems. All they'll hear is the rest of your post where you imply the whole ecosystem is rotten to the core and deliberately rotten because its community is full of nerdy assholes who don't want to change it. People that have never heard of Linux don't know what the hell xrandr is but they do know what "Linux sucks" means. This precise level of dishonesty is what I'd want in a paid shill if I was a Microsoft employee.
>>109151746>>109151826you don't have to parse xrandr anymore because x11 is deprecated lmaoooooooooo
>>109152163Wayland has been in development for 17 years and still doesn’t have all of the features x11 has.
>>109152242there's thumbnails in the file pickerwhat, you need more?
>>109151922Go ahead and post on the internet without a Mac address.Do it without Mac addresses.
>>109151405Skill issue
>>109151405i don't want retards to ruin linuxstay the fuck out niggers
>>109151405i generally agree but dont mint ubuntu or whatever the fuck handle second monitors just fine? why not use the distro thats already mostly set up ? maybe im retarded
>>109151405imagine if there was a gui for xrandr or something that wold be so crazyyy and helpful god fucking damn it
>>109151405where are all the UI and UX people that will generously donate their time to foss?oh right...
If the statement held merit, the propaganda would be unnecessary.
>>109152607What's the name of this mental illness?
>>109152642Ok
>>109152044No, I like other popular techtubers, I just hate Louis Fagman in particular. I put him in the same category as Mutahar and Linus as colossal larping shitters who bring nothing to the table except braindead pandering slop content.
>>109151405I feel like he was implicitly describing how men use technology vs how women do it. Since women are 90% of the global consumer market... Here we are.
>>109152607kek
>>109151574based
>>109155418So are you going to answer the question
>>109151405no he wasn't/isn't. Linux just is.
>he
>>109152044Normie take
>>109151405apple hides half the functions behind some esoteric bullshit because of aesthetics, the dark eyes med jew is wrong
>>109157490freeneet take
>>109151405because RTFM culture is in charge of the development, they call quality improvements - bloatRTFM culture also destroyed android modifications, XDA website and stackexchange were the most toxic places on earth, this is why I celebrated when ChatGPT came out and destroyed them
>>109151405maybe just use Ubuntu or even better, Kubuntu
>>109151574fpbp
>>109158494cringe
>>109151405Troonix = good privacy, good control, bad utility, bad learning curve.macOS = bad privacy, bad control, mid utility, good learning curve.Windows = bad privacy, bad control, good utility, good learning curve.Windows XP = good privacy, good control, good utility, good learning curve.
>xrandr is hardget a frontend then>>109151605this
Linux has been pretty shit for a while now Truth is computers have been in the cuck chair for a long time
>>109151405>macs have no manuals>everyone knows how to useYes, because "use" constitutes opening a browser.
I've started using MacOS for work a week ago.>AppStore sucks ass and shows scammy apps if you search for some popular basics that aren't available>you have to install a fucking third party application to configure sane behavior of the scroll wheel>setting up a keyboard shortcut to launch an application was hilariously complex and then didn't work, because apparently it didn't like the key combination I chose. but it also didn't warn me in any way that the combination for some reason wouldn't work everywhere.>window manager in its default configuration does things I don't understand and are unintuitive to recover fromI like it better than Windows, but it's definitely not easy to use and intuitive as everybody claims. They're super special flavor with ctrl, cmd, option alone is something that takes time to get used to.I wish I could just install KWin.
>>109151405macOS works until you hit something Apple didn't think of, then it doesn't work, hard. Apparently, there are things you're not supposed to think of doing with computers.
To mac users. What's wrong with just knowing how the software works before using it? Why do you want software that is so complex you can only figure it out for special cases in real time & at runtime?
>>109151698>but i just have to use their productshe doesn'the uses linux and that's why half his videos have really weird audio issues because fucking linux sucks at almost everything
>>109151866Are you talking about NVIDIA drivers or what? even installing NVIDIA drivers has gotten way easier over time.
>>109151405>he was rightfucking duh, that's on purpose.
>>109151574I take a group selfie on my iPhone, the picture looks like crap.But I hand my iPhone to a stranger to have them take the picture, it's incredible quality.How the fuck is this possible?? I guess maybe focal length + distance?
>>109151405>that everyone knows how to useHow do you close an application on Mac OS?No, it's not with the little X in the corner of the window like every other OS.
>>77364713You context click on the application in the doc and select close. Its not hard
>>109151536My headphone jack only supports mono and my camera doesn't work and the slopped out trash daemons that people wrote for this hardware only supported half the functions and my mouse needed the polling rate fixed manually on the kernel command line and linux will never be a normie usable system because there's a million niggling details like this that crop up in the infinite space of hardware combinations and proprietary hardware fuckery.
>>109152381Media Access Control address or [MACintosh] address?Don't fuck with me, NICa.
>>109151405I literally didn't know how to use an iPhone when I got it. iOS is not intuitive at all. The only reason people "know" how to use it is because they've been using it for a decade.No OS is usable without a manual aside from very simple appliance operating systems, like for watches and gaming consoles. And even those have manuals. And btw so does iOS, they just call it a "tour app".
>>109151408Gimp truly is a terrible piece of software. I'm convinced Adobe pay them to keep it shit.
>>109151693Linux is now what Windows used to be in the XP days.
>>109168112The best and most soulful OS? That sounds pretty good ngl.
>>109168215NTA but Linux Mint is basically the windows XP experience. No ads or AI on your desktop, no weird processes running in the background and your system is radio silent if you aren't doing anything. But user friendly enough for a normal person to use since everything can be done from the UI.
>>109151611>his repair shop failedhe started off as a broke retarded poc manlet in NYC repairing laptops on the street and is now presumably a multimillionaire, I'd say he did alright. Though mostly through his youtube.
>>109151698I think Rossman just wants the everyman to have an OS option that doesn't rape them. Do you really think the hardware repair tech is afraid of Linux? It's an admirable goal, I certainly can't be bothered to care about the normies like that. Linux is built for people like me and I'm perfectly happy with that status-quo.
no no, munchkinism is how those systems hold their users - remove it and.. it wont happen. noootice how GNUnixoids used to think of their superiority - they know how to do it! properly even
>>109151405>I POSTED IT AGAINHe's incorrect. Nobody knows how to use their apple device to do any task more complicated than answering a phone call or watching tiktok.Ask an iPhone user to change their photo format to high quality and be default. They don't know how.
>>109151408I don't understand why anyone uses GIMP when you could use Krita instead. I thought GIMP would be the logical Paint.NET alternative when I switched to Linux, but I would have had a better time sandpapering my balls.
This is just like the people that compare the $100 Walmart Android to a $1000+ IPhone and conclude that "Le Android is Shite". Of course configuring Arch Linux is harder than using OSX, but thats because your'e comparing your Fisher Price OS to a DIY distribution. If you're a lobotomite who still wants to get Linux, install something like Ubuntu or Mint, where even my grandma would have no issue getting into her email or Facebook.
>>109168326No, it's not. I mean, it partially is, but not in a way it matters. Mint looks ugly as shit compared to the beautiful skeuomorphic design of XP. Also it's not "the best OS of the current year", far from it actually. It does "feel like XP" only because it's genuinely outdated as fuck. But XP being outdated is the exact reason I'm not using it, so there's no reason to use Mint either.
>>109168473>beautiful skeuomorphic designKek, windows XP's luna theme was terrible, literally fisher price UI. Only zoomers larping as having y2k nostalgia think this. Windows XP was good because it was a functional operating system. Apple solved skeumorphism in Snow Leopard. Windows design meanwhile peaked in Aero.
>>109168543>Windows design meanwhile peaked in Aero.Aero is shit because transparency is shit. It only looks pretty if you don't use it.>XP's luna theme was terrible, literally fisher price UI.It's literally the best looking UI even to this date.
>>109151405>everyone knows how to useIt took me multiple searches to understand how to quit the program. Instant delete is some weird "Option + Command + Delete" shortcut, except there is no Delete key on the fucking keyboard. Apparently, you have to use Backspace.And then there are permissions. I had so much trouble sharing my screen with my coworkers. macOS is full of small things like that, things neither Linux nor Windows have, making the whole OS useful only for opening a browser and scrolling.
