https://www.techradar.com/computing/memory/lenovo-declares-a-new-normal-for-higher-memory-pricing-in-the-2030s-while-microsoft-forecasts-prices-to-double-again-in-a-yearYOU WILL NEVER OWN A NON-CLOUD PC AGAINIT'S OVER
>>1091523948GB on GNU+Linux is like 128GB on crapple pajeetOS.
>>109152394They're not that expensive for what they do.
>>109152394Only China can save us now
>>109152394>Article based on speculation and laughs
>>109152394Based, accelerate.
>>109152506That's what people like you said before RAM 5x'd when they were warning us before. The RAM cartel figured out they can charge any price they want with some fuckery, it's not speculation anymore. This is their plan and they want to hold you hostage in the cloud.
It'll resolve itself eventually, too many competing interests. If it really doesn't get better all the companies that require ram for consumer products will end up founding a consortium to buy out a manufacturer or build their own fab
>>109152394>YOU WILL NEVER OWN A NON-CLOUD PC AGAINOP is a brown mouth drooler
>>109152577>too many competing interestsLolIf they setup a cartel when there were 12 companies what makes you think they are going to compete instead of colluding with just 3?
>>109152577Sure it will, but eventually can easily be 10 years or longer.Anyone waiting for the prices to get better in a 5 year time frame is going to get fucked hard by waitfagging.
>>109152526>want to hold you hostage in the cloud.what's the point of subscribing to a cloud PC? to watch porn? can't you do that on numerous devices already?Also aren't you going to need a PC to access that cloud PC anyways? it sounds extremely oxymoron
>>109153208>what's the point of subscribing to a cloud PC?The point is, you will do it when you can't afford to build or purchase your own PC anymore.
>>109153208>Also aren't you going to need a PC to access that cloud PC anyways?That's the best part, you'll pay a monthly fee for your computer!
>>109153222Why do we need builds something more then APU when igpu are already decent?For AAA-goyming slop or what?
>>109153222>>109153223>can't afford to build or purchase your own PC anymore.Why do you need to consume a new computer every 2 years like a cattle or an iphone owning foid?laptops and macbooks from 10 years ago already work fine and are fast enough, even ones from 20 years ago can still access the internet
>>109153232i haven't played AAA slop in over a decade but i like to run CS at 600+ fps at 1600x1200 to match my monitor's refresh rate and i also have a pretty decent VR simracing rig which renders ridiculous amount of pixels. APU is a non-starter for my hobbies.
>>109153236Looks like Windows 10 and macOS 11 aren't supported anymore! Sorry, but the latest web browsers and software aren't available for your shitbox anymore. Also, it's illegal to hoard powerful hardware. You could be developing an LLM for the purpose of overthrowing the government.
Prices go up because natural resources are depleting and there's nothing anyone can do about it.
>>109153254i accept your concession, thanks for proving my point. You don't have to embarrass yourself further by writing fanfics>>109153247>>>/v/
TWO COMPANIES DIRECTLY FINANCIALLY BENEFITTING FROM THE AI BUBBLE ARE SAYING THAT THE CRISIS THEY CAUSED WILL LAST FOREVER PLEASE BELIEVE THIS HEADLINE AND REPOST IT TO 4CHAN WE NEED TO KEEP THE STOCKHOLDERS APPEASED OR ELSE THEY'LL START PULLING OUT
>>109152394why is it doubling after the Openai deal was revealed as fake in fact why has everyone forgotten that Openai is responsible for this mess.
>>109153277you think they talk about competitive low latency FPS gaming and simracing in /v/? maybe it's you who should >>> to reddit, normalfag
>>109153303Because people have the memory span of a goldfish, and once the RAM cartel got an excuse to start yet another price fixing scam, why stop?
>>109153303Because what they realized is that they were pricing RAM below what the market would pay for it.Just like how GPUs spiked in retail price once scalpers showed them that people would pay 2-3x the price.
>>109152577>>109153189>>109153232You will be priced out of owning most hardware permanently. At best you will "own" a netbook-tier terminal that has cloud services preinstalled (likely marketed as a "Cloud PC" just like "AI PCs") where you will be forced to subscribe to their cloud computing environment to do anything useful. There you will be monitored and harvested for data like cattle. Naturally, the cattle doesn't get it until it's too late.
>>109152577>If it really doesn't get better all the companies that require ram for consumer products will end up founding a consortium to buy out a manufacturer or build their own fabI wouldn't be surprised if the government blocks them from doing this, or threatens them with lawfare. Look what they're doing to Valve for refusing to become (((publicly traded)))
>>109152394Trump already banned big AI companies from releasing new models, and the capacity of data centers fully meet demand. so 10x compute they are planning to have that costs trillions will be laying there doing nothing, and that simply not going to happen, companies aren't that suicidal, so these contracts big corps have with RAM manufactures soon will be dropped.
>>109153362>likely marketed as a "Cloud PC" just like "AI PCs"Cloud PC's will never work. Not in this day and age. Yes, we're dependent on an Internet connection, but what's more important is being able to use your computer, and if someone lives in an area with unstable Internet connection, or if there is an outage, everyone is open for some serious liability. Clearly no one is planning on abandoning local hardware either, otherwise Nvidia and Microsoft wouldn't proudly announce a new line of Arm systems running AI locally. They're still interested in offering us devices that'll run without an Internet connection. Plus, all that datacenter hardware for which the RAM chips are hoarded is purpose designed for ML compute, they are architecturally unfit to serve cloud VM's to fulfill this pipe dream of cloud only personal computing.I love these "they want to force us to cloud only computing" conspiracy theories because of how fucking detached from reality they are. You have to write your own reality where all these big corpos are some Machiavellian villains and the laws of the free market that give them all the power can never act against them because "oh they can just bribe the government", meanwhile it's the government that's pissing in these corpo's cereal right now by blocking Anthropic's and OpenAI's models.
>i-it's China with a wheelchair!
>>109153362>Cloud PCunfortunately I'm just not going to buy that. sorry
>>109153423>"they want to force us to cloud only computing" conspiracy theories>>109153423>You have to write your own reality where all these big corpos are some Machiavellian villainsyou are sounding really jewish right now
>>109152506The M$ aspect is from their latest Xbox price increase press release.
>>109153489>YOU'RE CHALLENGING MY WORLDVIEW SO YOU MUST BE JEWISH
>>109153362im going to keep my macbook air m1 8gb until 2040suck my balls consumer retard, don't forget to renew your netflix subscription
>>109153530we can see through you, but keep trying
>>109153549So much for you free-thinkers. Instead of challenging each point to explain why I'm wrong, you choose to deflect the argument completely with an ad hominem.
>>109153552why would I explain myself to a jew
>>109153560you sound jewish right now
>>109152394consumer business is dead its all b2b now and they pay any price. Which is strange as fuck because where are the billionaires getting their money from? Probably retirement funds which fellow billionaire control.
>>109153489You calling me a jew while running defense for megacorps and interest groups LITERALLY run by jews, isn't a particularly sophisticated tactic, my Israeli friend.
>>109153537>he thinks that he'll be able to access the internet with an unverified deviceCute
>>109152394why is globo pricing us out of hardware?
>>109153637Do you think all the silicon valley jews and trillionaires that built the attention economy want as little people to access their advertising panopticon?Genuinely kill yourself tech illiterate retard
>>109153679Most of the people use phones and phones are already locked down
>>109153741you didn't answer my question, also it doesn't matter if they use smartphones, general purpose OS computers are tracked enough to identify you regardless
>>109153768>Do you think all the silicon valley jews and trillionaires that built the attention economy want as little people to access their advertising panopticon?Well first they'll try to convince everyone that they're not actually trying to lock down anything.So you can just buy the verified devices *wink* *wink* you don't need to keep your old hardware *wink* *wink*. They'll probably use a lot of shills and bots like you for that.Every now and then they'll try to tighten the screws just to see what happens and paddle back if resistance is still too strong. That's what google did with Android recently.Once the resistance is weak enough (and it's steadily going down) and enough people simply don't own unverified devices anymore because a) they broke or b) people believed the shills and threw them away they'll lock shit down completely.
>>109153826>you don't need to keep your old hardware *wink* *wink*. They'll probably use a lot of shills and bots like you for thatIm arguing in favor of keeping your old hardware, are you a bot yourself or just extremely retarded and illiterate to the point you can't read?Your fanfic about muh chud resistance has 0 validity. Once again, make a sound argument or off yourself.
>>109152394>t. Companies that signed 5 year deals trying to justify it because it's in their interest if RAM stays high Personally I can see 1-2 more major rises happening before things start falling apart for memory companies, one way or another. I'll ballpark a crash around 2028 I think.
When can I get that Chinese RAM they were talking about last month?
>>109152477>china will magically start manufacturing tons of ddr5 and then will sell it at a lower price despite the very high demand.lel, sure bro.
>>109153934already bought by the data centers.
>>109153894in 2028 the big data centers from meta, amazon, openai+oracle+softbank will be built and ready to be filled with hardware. you are delusional if you think prices will go down before five or six years.
>>109152394>LENOVO AND MICROSOFTnot my problem
>>109153951Don't forget existing datacenters will hit their upgrade cycle too, if anything it's going to get 10x worse.
>>109153951The poor retard probably thinks it's a bubble and it's going to pop...
