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Previous thread: >>109134549
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install gentoo
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Name a comfier desktop OS than Debian stable.
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Why the FUCK am I unable to post here from Linux? I tried 4 different browsers and they all say I'm rangebanned yet my shitty android tablet is able to post just fine even from multiple browsers with fresh cookies. I've tried Brave Origin, Firefox, Chromium and even went full normie and tried Google Chrome without an adblocker and they all gave the rangeban error, is an email required to post from Linux in general now?
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>>109157276
set genera.useragent.override to something like Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 11.0; Win64; x64; rv:150.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/150.0
in about:config on firefox
using linux means you're a bot
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>>109157283
Last time I tried something like that it made Cloudflare shit it's britches and get stuck in an infinite loop
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>install virtualbox
>UI is nice, it's awfully slow, usb device handoff is buggy, it forces me to blacklist or rmmod kvm/kvm_amd every time, also >oracle

>install vmware
>it's not as slow, UI is total crap, also >broadcom

>install virt-manager
>it's faster, guest resolution adjusting as you resize the windows does not work at all with virtio, switching to QLX fixes it for resizing windows, but not for maximizing windows (!) and it's slower than virtio

seriously though, what else is there?
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>>109157242
Pic

Both equally comfy. The only two distros I'm running right now.
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>>109157311
resizing is done through spice you need the guest tools
just keep playing around you’ll figure it out
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>>109157314
that looks like the ascii art a chatbot would make when you ask it to show you its butthole.
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>Like the look of things like CDE, OS/2, KDE 1 to 3, GNOME 1 and 2, Amgia workbench and so on
>Like the workflow of Niri
What now anons?
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>>109157323
but I have both spice and virtio guest tools. it's really weird it not working at all with virtio display but somewhat working with qlx
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>>109157283
That didn't work, I even tried the user agent from the tablet that can post here fine and that didn't work either
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>>109157372
you've already been fingerprinted. try a completely new fresh browser profile and cookies
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>>109157380
Yep, definitely fingerprinted because now I can't even post from the tablet anymore from Firefox Focus which I borrowed the user agent from.
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>>109157314
congratulations on your transition
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What did he know?
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>>109157348
yeah, just checked and most recent vm I made with virt-manager had virtio as the gpu for an archlinux guest.

it should pull all those defaults in for an appropriate guest when you select it through the gui for virt-manager/virt-install. picking archlinux it knows that the guest will have virtio drivers and should pick that by default.
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>>109157006
Crap like that is why I run Steam in a dedicated XWayland instance.

I run games with the PROTON_ENABLE_WAYLAND variable so they always launch on top of Wayland but Steam stays in its own shitty window and can't interfere with my desktop and I can always switch to it.

Native Wayland support for Steam can't come soon enough.
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>>109157242
cachyOS
need i say more?
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>>109157536
oof, you boughted starfield?
i'm waiting on it to go massively on sale, like less than $15, AND waiting for modders to make it a good game.
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>>109157182
>still shilling for gentoo in the year of our lord stallman 2026
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>>109157536
whats all that shit going on around your windows?
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>>109157326
True

>>109157400
Transitioning to a stable rolling release amirite
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>>109157564
This is AI.
How do I know?
Stallman would never be outside...
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>>109157799
Then what's this?
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>>109157242
Windows 11
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>>109157832
Government Propaganda.
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>>109157571
"Fun"
>XSnow, Conky and Oneko
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>>109157832
>>109157564
does this dude never go out without his laptop?
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>>109157993
>Does this dude
>Doesn't know who he is
I just died inside a little... Unless you're new and/or techtarded, but if you aren't then I weep for modern tech enthusiases.
>t. retarded millenial
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im so tempted to switch to gnome becuase every time there is a big plasma update i encounter annoying bugs
right now i have a weird one on the login screen
every time i type a number some suggestions appear below the password field and if i try to type another number one of those suggestions is selected instead of the number being entered in the password field
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>>109158258
I really, really, really wanted to like GNOME but I couldn't. It's too much like Apple and its way too much of a pain in the ass to mod that it just doesn't fit my use case. I do like the name though.
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>>109157799
Stallman fucked up his hands with emacs and hasn't done any programming in like 25 years. Pretty much all he does is travel.
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>>109158287
>Stallman fucked up his hands with emacs and hasn't done any programming in like 25 years.
I don't know if you're fucking with me or telling the truth at this point.
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>>109158258
Do you have the Plasma Virtual Keyboard enabled?
That's supposed to be used to help you insert symbols that aren't commonly found on all keyboards. It works pretty well in my opinion but sometimes there are issues like that.

Disable it in the settings if it annoys you too much.
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>>109158258
Had to go back to gnome. I broke stuff on my machine. Wouldn't use it without extensions. Still have kde on main laptop.
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>been using Mint & Debian for a while
>Also used to Arch
>Slop machine recommends CachyOS as a "more updated than Mint & Debian and less annoying to update than arch"

The build is for a new cutting edge local llm/vidya/programming build. Is CachyOS actually good?
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>>109158446
i disabled it in the settings
still happens
unless there is another setting for it?
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on arch with 7.0.14 linux, my t480 has the "upgraded" intel ax210 wifi+bluetooth card. when i have a bluetooth speaker/headset connected and playing audio, everything is fine for a few minutes and then the bluetooth connection gradually deteriorates (low bitrate) then cuts audio all together, but still shows the speaker is still connected. apparently this might be a coexistence or a powersave problem but nothing ive tried seems to do anything
>>109158530
cachyos is steamos but mutable, in my experience
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>>109158530
CachyOS is very good when you want "cutting edge". It will have much better support for your hardware than something like Debian.
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ne1 using Nobara?
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What's a good crossplatform app (CLI can work too, if needed) that supports opening encrypted text files? I've been using KeepassXC to save plain text as attachments in the description, but it's getting rudimentary. I want something more ergonomic designed around editing text, it's obvious a password manager is suited for other tasks.
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I got filtered by CachyOS hard and went back to Windows 11 LTSC earlier this year due to Citrix (workplace requirement) and a lack of mod managers for Skyrim/Morrowind autism but I'm yearning for Linux again.

It sucks. Wayland is in a weird spot, HDR is in a weird spot, Gamescope is kind of half implemented across the board. Am I just too early or is Linux not actually there yet? We seem to be in this weird transitional period right now where everything I want to use isn't ready.
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>>109158823
https://github.com/evpo/encryptpad
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>>109158839
Should have just switched to Bazzite like I told you, you stupid faggot.
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>>109158843
Bazzite would be even worse for me due to the immutable OS. I'm somewhat of a power user.

Also Bazzite doesn't support Cosmic Desktop.
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>>109158846
That’s a good thing. Cosmic is pure shit. Just use kde plasma. Stop being such a retarded tranny lover.
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>>109158850
S O V L
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>>109158846
NTA but it would be literally what you need for your specifications to be comfortable.
Though as you seem to be very goldilocks about this you might as well just stick to 11 LTSC because it'll do everything you want without really needing to think about it.
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>>109158852
looks like soulless trannyslop. why are you like this? have you tried antipsychotics?
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>>109158852
>S O V L
where exactly?
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>>109158860
>looks like soulless trannyslop
Wouldn't that be flat design language that's been pushed onto us for the past 10-15 years?
>>109158857
Don't you find yourself hitting barriers because of the immutable OS? Seems like that would be annoying for anyone who slightly knows what they're doing.
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>>109158886
User-level config exists, anon.
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>>109158886
If you know what you’re doing, it’s a nonissue. He’s just a retard who doesn’t understand how to use Linux.
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Any alternatives to redshift that uses Xorg?
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>>109158841
Doesn't run on Lagdroid sadly, but it's a good one. Maybe i can work around it with Termux.
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>>109158982
gammastep works for me
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Whenever I try create a vm to learn how to install linux, it opens up with linux already installed. How do I stop this. I need to learn the installation process
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Recent Cachy OS update broke gaming again
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>>109157345
Theme GTK 3/4 (and QT5/6) to look retro. Find a bar or dock that looks old school. Remove rounded corners and gaps on Niri. You might even be able to remove or speed up the animations to make it feel less modern.
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How easy it is to swifch to selinux on non-rpm distros?
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>>109159053
An incredible fucking hassle. If you want something like it outside of RHEL/Fedora ecosystems just use AppArmor.
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>>109159077
I want maximum security, it makes me feel good.
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>>109159081
Then use Fedora then. It's literally built with SELinux rules/needs in mind.
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>tfw finally stopped distro hopping
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>>109159098
That's what I use now. Just curious about options I have
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>>109157345
i just went back to xfce lol
maybe in the future niri and the like can be made to look not so 'modern'
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>>109158846
>I'm somewhat of a power user.
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>>109157242
for me it's arsch linux
I love the thrill of not knowing whether my system will boot up after an update
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I am using Plasma 6.7.1 and I cannot change my user profile picture to a custom image that is under 1MB. I can't even set it to the default Konqi profile picture. Pls help
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>>109159011
Found a workaround. Fromsoftware games seem to enter -20 FPS when fullscreen but somehow this problem vanishes when windowed. This happened after the last update.
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>>109159110
What is the secret magic man?
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I just came across a DVD where the directories don't have the executable flag, so it's unbrowsable in the file manager. I didn't know this was even possible, can't even chmod because it's read only. Oddly enough VLC can still play it, guess it doesn't read the files the same way or something. Wonder if it's fucked up on Windows too
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>>109159444
what DE?
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Do I need to do anything before installing Gentoo?
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>>109158846
>Cosmic Desktop
you lost your right to criticize wayland
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>>109159521
Just follow the install guide
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>>109159464
a non-executable directory doesn't prevent you reading files from it, only filesystem properties of those files.
as for VLC, idk, if it's a commercial dvd then it'll be encrypted, so perhaps whatever it's using to go through decss reads it at another layer
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>>109159553
actually double checked and it does prevent reading file contents, though you can still see filenames with ls, gui fm's probably won't work. root can still do anything since root always has permission
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>>109159511
KDE Plasma
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>>109159591
probably a plasma bug
6.7 was a big update
every time plasma gets a big update its buggy as hell
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Hi everyone, I don't post here often.
How well does Linux run on a modern tablet ? Can it run VNs at 60 fps ?
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>>109159634
pc tablet or android tablet?
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>>109159656
Android
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>>109159864
its over
pray to God theres something on the postmarket wiki about your device
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I installed Debian 13 with Xfce and it consumed 680 MB of RAM at idle. Then I uninstalled it (don't ask why). Then I reinstalled it and now it consumes about 720 MB of RAM. Why?
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>>109159891
stop being retarded. use zram.
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>>109159864
you could try winlator or similar, it's an android program which combined wine with box64 to run windows programs on android with hardware acceleration. this naturally has a performance hit as the cpu needs to be emulated, but if you have supported hardware then you can run a surprising number of things with it
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>>109159629
Makes sense, I've already tried different kernel rollbacks to no avail, I guess I'll try rolling that back.
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did anyone's firefox homepage/newtab broke during the last few months (on arch)? It happened after an update but downgrading did nothing and neither updates nor LLMs helped. I've also tried fucking with the config but I don't know what I'm doing and it changed jacked shit. My new tabs are completely blank and my home page only shows the logo.
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>>109159308
I found that I can use 'downgrade' from the AUR to downgrade a version of 'accountsservice' to a previous version, and I was able to set a my profile picture on Plasma.
Hopefully downgrading from version 26.26.9-1 to 26.13.3-1 won't break my system.
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>>109159634
it runs fantastic. yes, easily lol. what a dumb question, how bad do you think linux is that it couldn't handle something as basic as VNs? what has microshit done to you?
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So I caved and switched to Bazzite. On the live USB I got this cool readout of my system specs, but after it was installed, it is just a plain KDE desktop. How do I get that functionality back?
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>>109159011
*laughs in bazzite*
>>109160015
it's buggy and breaks all the time, but it's called ujust I forget the terminal command you gotta type. It works on a live usb enviornment sometimes, but not on all systems. Most people use fastfetch. I wish it were a simple affair. Welcome home by the way.
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>>109157006 (me)

>>109157536
So you just add it to the launch options, or no? And every other game works, but I tried to play deltarune yesterday, and it just kept fucking me over. Deleted the prefix and it worked once and then idk I tinkered around and it fucked me again.


Holy fuck, it actually worked. Thanks a bunch anon.
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>>109158652
Interesting, I'm throwing together local model build, and I'm trying to avoid ubuntu if I can.

It seems like Fedora, Ubuntu, or CachyOS are the best options using new hardware.
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>>109159898
that doesn’t change the amount of memory it uses
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hello f*glts, yeaterday i bought a new laptop from lenovo. I saw that support was a bit shacky on the new ones, but multiple sources confirmed that a few months ago all firmware and driver issues were reported to be over.

I'm a debian guy, but forky at the moment does not carry a recent enough kernel which supports the audio codec (and i'm not going to use sid because i'm not retarded) so i tried fedora (reported to be working 100% since 42) and indeed it works well.

I made the changes to KDE so i have the same configuration as in my other machines. That's it.

Besides apt / dnf, what difference is there? Systemd, kde, kernel is all the same.
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>>109161176
that is not really the point nigga. stop caring about idle ram usage. use your ram instead.
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anyone else had this bug where you try to resize a window on GNOME and it just fucking disappears? second time this shit happens on flatpak Okular
it's still visible in the overview but you can't access it
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I am just stopping by to thank the anon who suggested topgrade to me a few threads ago.
It even updates my VSCodium plug-ins and termux stuff on my phone.
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>>109161561
It uses SELinux instead of AppArmor, defaults to btrfs with ztsd compression as the default filesystem, its releases are every 6 months and last 13 months each and you need the rpm-fusion repos enabled to actually download non-free packages or patent-protected codecs. That's about it.
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>>109161561
You could just use the kernel from Sid rather than switch the whole distro over to it. I think that should be easily possible with APT pinning. I'm not a Debian expert though so aren't entirely sure how you do that but the idea is that you'd just have the kernel package pinned to Sid while the rest of your distro stays on stable packages.
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>>109158291
That's what happens when /g/ is your only source of information, retarded easily-impressed technically inept-kun.
Stallman is a propaganda guy.
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>>109157993
He spends all day answering emails apparently.
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>>109161664
But why do that? I'll just keep using fedora until forky moves to a more recent kernel (AND more recent KDE, which does have a few newer goodies i'm looking forward to test)

>>109161638

mostly things i don't really care about, to be honest. But good to know so i can get educated. thanks
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>>109161566
why even mention zram then?
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>>109161808
Linux distros aren't that different. Especially the popular ones. Picking the right release cycle for your use case is like 90% of it.
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How do you guys view and manage all your images? I have downloaded soooo many from 4chan over the years. Idk how I'm supposed to sort them. I split them into numbered folders just because loading them all takes forever.

I think I've heard people use "boorus" or something? Idk if that's something ran locally.
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>>109162540
Hydrus is basically -the- booru/4chan etc image manager if you have shittons of them.
There's also Szurubooru which basically lets you make a local booru-style webpage you can add all your pictures to where you can have them tagged and such (just like Hydrus)
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After upgrading my PC microslop decided my copy of windows is no longer valid, so it seems like a good time to get that cancerous shite off my machine once and for all.

I use my desktop for the following activities, starting with the most frequent.
>Web browsing, online shopping
>Gaming
>Video streaming
>Word processing and spreadsheetery
>Very occasional video editing

Things I want to avoid
>AI

Other than that I have no idea where to start, any pointers greatly appreciated, would like something relatively stable and beginner friendly with decent privacy.
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>>109162728
Get The Linux Command Line in order to get acquainted with the command line and install something like Bazzite, CachyOS, or Mint. The former two are Arch-based distributions with the use of gaming in mind. Mint might be more beginner friendly, though I haven't used it.
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>>109162728
They are all the same. You can only measure up distro with two things 1) how tedious is it and 2) do you need to deal with out of date packages.
Mint gets recommended a lot, but if you are gaming you would want newer kernel version. That would mean least 6.14+, this was when ntsync support was introduced.
You should probably use Fedora or maybe Cachyos but I don't know.
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Is Pop_OS with Cosmic stable? Should I put it on my laptop?
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>>109162728
Fedora for AMD or Intel GPU. Mint or Arch for nVidia. If it's very new hardware or an unknown Windows laptop I would say just Fedora or Arch.

Maybe Bazzite if you just want a preview of how a working distro should mostly be, but it carries huge technical debt if you need to change anything.

>>109162744
Bazzite is a Fedora Atomic image.

>>109162860
Honestly I've never noticed much difference between kernel versions unless they break amdgpu. If you have basically fast enough hardware, it's still basically fast enough with or without ntsync.
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>>109162975
Never use vendor distros unless you have the vendor's hardware.
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>>109162540
yeah hydrus. digikam is alright if hydrus is too autistic for you
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>>109157536
>run Steam in a dedicated XWayland instance.
How do you do this and how is it different from just regularly opening up steam through xwayland on wayland?
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>>109158258
Stuff like this is why people stay on debian stable
You miss out on whatever new features are in the later versions of software, but you also get the bugs, only to wait for the next version to hopefully fix them but also open up new bugs
But you could also be stuck with a version of the software on debian stable that has specific known bugs.
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>>109162540
I ended up just adding descriptions/tags to the actual filename themselves and just using that as a way to search stuff.
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>>109162981
I disagree that a working distro should involve using multiple external package managers because its native package manager rpm-ostree is slow and useless.
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>>109157114
Fedora's good y'all just convinced glowies gaf abt you
>>
What's Fedora's selling point? I see that a lot of people use it, but I never have personally. As for Debian, is stability its selling point? Does that come at the cost of rolling release package updates that occurs on Arch?
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I've just had a bunch of annoyances happen to me back to back on linux and I'm getting the urge to rage quit and switch back to windows. The issues were related to gimp and not being able to use photoshop and certain issues with valve's native source game ports.
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Which desktop clients (except Thundershart) allow logging to GMail? I wanted to use pic rel but it requires setting up the Google Cloud API horseshit. Fuck !!!
https://claws-mail.org/faq/index.php/Oauth2#Setting_up_OAuth_2.0_for_Gmail
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>>109161690
This sounds like reddit propaganda.
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>>109157242
There is none comfier. But for me, it's Sid.
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>>109163850
Fedora is a really good distro. One of the best. Upstream innovations get implemented there first and then disseminate to other distros. You get an up to date kernel and DE. You get package transaction management. You get the best MAC available (SELinux). You get great ecosystem support. The downside is that it's ultimately a corporate distro that serves Red Hat's interests and agenda. Red Hat does the legal work. Red Hat owns the trademarks. Also, the repos are relatively small, and only key packages are kept current while the rest lag a bit.
Debian on the other hand is a fully democratic project with community governance, and legal done by a non-profit (SPI). It has strict policy on what is and is not allowed in the OS. For example, online builds are disallowed, as is library vendoring. Things in Debian are normalised by policy so that the system behaves in a consistent way with no surprises. This comes at a cost, of course - it takes time to integrate things (e.g. rust libraries). Packages that cannot be relied upon (e.g. breaks API all the time) are generally not packaged (e.g. Zig which Ghostty depends on). Separate to that is the fact that it is a frozen-in-time distro (the opposite of rolling), with only critical/security patches applied. But if you know what you are doing, you can run Sid and enjoy relatively up to date packages. But it's not like Arch - package updates aren't uniformly instant. It depends on the integration cost. For example, Firefox is kept VERY up to date (more than Fedora), but GNOME might take 3 months for the latest version to completely incrementally roll in. But it is still a very high quality distro. It is not unheard of to have less problems on Sid than Ubuntu, for example.
All in all, Debian is arguably the best distro if you care about democratic governance, a social contract, and quality engineering.
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>>109163850
It's the lowest maintenance / least irrational fast release distro with the largest package base. Good for actual Linux hardware. Bad for aging Windows gaming rigs with noVideo GPU and mystery meat laptops.
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>>109159246
only ever had this with Cachy honestly, Arch never gave me an issue
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>>109157114
pantsu ToT
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How do i stop myself from reinstalling arch every two weeks?. Each time i do it, it's with a slightly different config
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>>109165105
install fedora kde. open a bunch of tabs. setup your system fully with all accounts, applications and use mostly stock settings.
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How do I know which linux is for me?
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Is it a rite of passage to spend an hour troubleshooting why your new Linux installation won't recognize your Nvidia GPU and can't boot after installing the drivers, or am I just one of the lucky ones?
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>>109165455
what gpu and what distro?
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>>109165460
RTX 4070 Super, Fedora Workstation.
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>>109165474
https://rpmfusion.org/Howto/NVIDIA
secure boot status?
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>>109165481
Secure boot is disabled. Please indulge me in a blogpost if you want to know what I've already tried.

I started out this journey by asking Grok what to do, and it told me to run:
sudo dnf install https://mirrors.rpmfusion.org/free/fedora/rpmfusion-free-release-$(rpm -E %fedora).noarch.rpm https://mirrors.rpmfusion.org/nonfree/fedora/rpmfusion-nonfree-release-$(rpm -E %fedora).noarch.rpm

sudo dnf update
sudo dnf install akmod-nvidia # Main package
sudo dnf install xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-cuda # Optional: for CUDA support

After this, I restarted and waited for 1 hour on the boot screen. It didn't boot. It only boots if I add nomodeset to the boot options now. I went to Perplexity to ask it instead, and it told me to check whether the driver was installed. Since it seemed like it did, the AI then had me run:
sudo akmods --force
sudo dracut --force

The command "modinfo -F version nvidia" did complete successfully after this and display a version number. The AI then had me go into nvidia.conf and add "options nvidia_drm modeset=1" into it.

After all this, and disabling Secure Boot, I now see my motherboard logo for a fraction of a second after booting. Then it freezes forever.
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>>109165199
Try this to narrow it down some
https://distrochooser.de/
The release cycle and your choice of desktop is going to matter more than anything else most of the time as long as you pick a popular distro.
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>>109165555
anything important saved on that machine? would you mind reinstalling the system? i think that would be faster than fixing the broken nvidia driver.
after the install i'd update the system, reboot and then install the nvidia driver like this:
sudo dnf install https://mirrors.rpmfusion.org/free/fedora/rpmfusion-free-release-$(rpm -E %fedora).noarch.rpm https://mirrors.rpmfusion.org/nonfree/fedora/rpmfusion-nonfree-release-$(rpm -E %fedora).noarch.rpm

sudo dnf config-manager setopt fedora-cisco-openh264.enabled=1

this is going to start the compile of the driver which is going to take time
sudo dnf update -y # and reboot if you are not on the latest kernel
sudo dnf install akmod-nvidia # rhel/centos users can use kmod-nvidia instead
sudo dnf install xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-cuda #optional for cuda/nvdec/nvenc support

check if the driver is now present
modinfo -F version nvidia
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What keyboard do you use?
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>>109165696
cherry g80 3000 with mx blacks
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>stable this stable that
Wonder what anons mean by stability. Don't it just mean that any package won't do major upgrades like updoot from 1.0 to 2.0 but instead stays at 1.x? What does one DO with such a feature?
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>>109165696
some cheap generic brand shit from walmart
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>>109165696
Leopold FC750, browns
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>>109165692
Thank you for the help, although it does not seem to have worked. I wiped the entire OS and reinstalled it, then updated the system, rebooted, and ran your commands. I still can't boot unless I add the nomodeset command. I ran a few commands to see if the OS is recognizing the GPU, even though it doesn't appear in System Monitor, and this was the result. The last command doesn't show anything.
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>>109166137
could you try replacing nomodeset with nvidia-drm.modeset=1 and also try nvidia-drm.fbdev=1?
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>>109166137
>>109166150
i think you can also just add both at the same time to replace nomodeset. what motherboard do you have btw?
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>>109165696
MS Basic Keyboard
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after learning how to use immutable Linux, I can't go back
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>>109165861
>What does one DO with such a feature?
Have incredible reliability in their infrastructure. I worked for a website that had international traffic 24 hours a day so we had to be super careful about what to upgrade and when to keep to our target of five-9s uptime.
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>>109166246
why? do you like to reboot to install software?
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>>109166150
>>109166169
I tried these commands and it didn't work. It failed to boot in the same way as if I hadn't used any commands. I have a Gigabyte X870E AORUS ELITE WIFI7. When I'm booted into Fedora, it displays code 08 which means nothing. When it's failing to boot, it displays code 70 which indicates that it's doing PCH DXE Initialization.
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>>109165696
this cutie
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^bait
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>>109163850
fedora has selinux
good release cycle
no bs with something like aur

is usually supported by the big software devs (eg black magic)
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>>109166342
not bait, its my real keyboard. i didn't get it purely because cinnamoroll but because it was cheap, had the switches I like, and the keycap profile is my fav. very soft on the fingers
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anyone know what this white line with the seek bar of mpv is? I'm running kde/cachyos
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>>109166531
downloaded and cached amount
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>>109166534
is this new? I'm used to it just being blank as the white seek bar fills in like pic related
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bros what's a good scanning software for archiving photos in TIFF format? Document scanner (the default int Mint) would be god tier for me due to it's live scan preview feature, and its ability to stop a scan early. The crop and rotation features make the workflow incredibly fast as well. The limited selection of supported files types is the one thing holding it back.
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>>109166697
Apparently Mint's scanner can actually do .tiff files, but you need to just add the extension to the scan when you save it instead of choosing it from a dropdown.
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>>109166560
It's fairly new, a couple of years maybe
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>>109166697
do you need the scanning software to produce tiff or just to have the image in tiff? cuz imagemagick can convert png to tiff
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Tried to install gentoo but I'm dumb as rocks and I don't have a clue how linux works. What distro can I use that's easy enough to get the hang of but challenging enough to install and use that I will gain a better understanding and learn a lot of stuff
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>>109167394
Arch? Installing it manually is similar to Gentoo but overall easier because of its focus on binaries over compiling.
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>>109167403
I heard that it's really difficult
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>>109167441
Nah it's easy. Just follow the guide on the Arch Wiki.
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>>109167445
Well is it not a bit complicated to use? That's the impression I get of it
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>>109167680
Not really, you just gotta remember to do some maintenance every so often (which is easy to do if you just combine commands together under aliases or something.)
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>>109158886
>Don't you find yourself hitting barriers because of the immutable OS
No? You're misunderstanding what "immutable" means. Immutable just means you can't DIRECTLY change stuff and have the changes persist, as the root is read-only. But the OS gives you rpmostree which lets you make changes to the root system.
>Seems like that would be annoying for anyone who slightly knows what they're doing.
It's only annoying to people who think they know what they're doing, but actually don't.

>>109159634
>>109159864
It doesn't. Almost all Android devices only have an Android ROM and don't have Linux drivers or ROMs. Linux isn't a thing on most mid-range and high-end ARM devices. There's only one or two ARM SoC manufacturers that actually contribute to Linux support.
If your tablet never had an official Linux version, then it probably doesn't have Linux support.
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I read ranger is pretty clunky with file browsing because it's not async meaning that you'll get stuck for a bit when attempting to browse a directory with lots of files. what other alternatives provide the minimum amount of friction? I like ranger because of the hjkl navigation and because I can comfortably run quick commands with shell:, open embedded shell instances in directories and so on
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>>109167840
yazi
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>>109157114
AsahiLinux Fedora44 on 2020 Macbook Pro M1 8GB calling in.
Been creaming my pantaloons daily at the sheer scale of unlocked potential since making the switch.
I ain't fuckin' leaving.
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>>109167905
could have just bought a thinkpad
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Chromebook. With settings right, it is quite smooth for 4 gigs..
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>>109167924
Already got an x260 running Lubuntu, but Asahi is putting MacOS to shame, perfect daily use machine imo.
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>>109167939
how old is that thing?
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>>109167980
what does it do better than a semi recent thinkpad with fedora 44 .
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>>109167996
Nothing in fact it's worse in many ways but I was stuck with a device I resented using because of it's OS and that's no longer the case thanks to this solution.
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>>109167992
Technically 2021, but performs closer to something much older. I honestly just wanted to see how far I could push it because most people would just scrap it
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>>109168007
true. i have thrown out higher powered notebooks at work.
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>>109157242
>>109164566
Based fellow Debian fans
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Chickening out and installing Debian
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running back to Fedora once again
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any good reasons not to use cachyos? are there any important tradeoffs despite the performance gains?
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>>109168207
It has a chance of breaking after updating. Not a real OS unless you're an enthusiast.
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>>109168218
well sure, but is the risk of breakage much worse than vanilla arch?
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>>109167905
m4 support ever?
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>>109167939
You HAVE enabled zram, right anon?
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is flatpak a virus
chatgpt is telling me to install the seer gdb frontend from there
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>>109168320
No? Flatpak is a way to deliver programs as containers that's very popular.
And I know that artist from vocaloid videos, cute style.
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>>109168334
oh ok
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I have a shit ton of porn on my laptop that i don't want to appear in the recent tab. Is there a way to hide a specific folder to not appear in the recent tab?
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>>109168354
sudo rm / -fr
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>>109168320
>>109168349
>>109168354
stop the tranny picture spam
>>109168354
in kde you can put it in a vault
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I'm really not enjoying Ark, so are there any good alternatives?
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>>109168354
This should be in your system tray.
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>>109168416
>>109168483
Unfortunately i use gnome
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>>109168349
Cute. I love how the artist does eyes and those little shark mouths.
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For some reason on arch linux i can't check SMART data and self-tests through gnome-disks. Has anybody experienced this issue before?
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>>109168488
>tranny uses gnome
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>>109168918
Do you have smartmontools and udisks2 installed?
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>>109168483
use case for vaults?
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>>109169092
yes, that's the first thing i checked
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>installed mint on my thinkpad years ago
>felt great
>never used bluetooth because I'm not gay
>PSU died on my PC
>using thinkpad while new one arrives
>trying to connect to my DAC via bluetooth
>worked for a day
>then Connection Failed: br-connection-profile-unavailable
>keeps connecting and disconnecting
>tried all the fixes I could find online and none of them work

Really starting to fucking hate linux if something this fucking basic can't just work bros.
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>>109163850
At this point, its just a better ubuntu but its held down by its own retarded codec policy with rpmfusion.
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>>109168918
>
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>>109165696
I have a keychron but i also have two of those thinkpad keyboard models, one with the x220 layout and no trackpad and that really common one with no super/win key
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>>109169344
I don't speak kraut you're gonna have to tell me what that means
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>>109169363
look bottom left
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>>109169380
I don't use kde plasma
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>>109169383
you don't need this feature then. there is no use case as they say.
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>>109169383
just use smartmontools read the man page.
there is no use case because the optimal solution is to have the smart daemon send you an email when a disk triggers an event.
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>>109169201
man, just recently i had a laptop suddenly have bluetooth and wifi issues with mint at work
we ended up hopping to ubuntu, which fixed it, makes me think an update fucked something up
try booting on a different kernel, see if helps
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>>109169777
Ubuntu is hella gay and I don't wanna set up shit again though.
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>>109169786
good thing i suggested you boot on a different kernel version then right?
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>>109169803
Wait, I've actually never tried that. Brb trying that
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>>109169803
>>109169818
>downgraded from 6.8 to 6.5
>it's fixed

This shit is so gay. Why does it happen though? I don't get it.
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>>109169963
drivers are embedded in the kernel
also, you could've just upgraded instead, right?
isn't the latest kernel in mint 6.14 or something?
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How on earth do I disable vsync on kde plasma? I'm working on my engine and it's in vulkan but I cannot see an accurate representation of my frame rate anymore since it's stuck at my refresh rate. It doesn't do this when I switch my renderer to opengl so what the hell? This just started happening since the big plasma release.
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>>109170071
I should mention I mean specifically for kde plasma on wayland
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Do distros like nix and guix write more stuff to the ssd compared to a standard distro? Is it worse or better than gentoo? (when it comes to amount written to disk)
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>>109170118
the only thing that writes to disk is the journal so just disable journal writes by setting the journal backing to volatile.
I don’t know what gentoo without systemd does, I assume syslog and maybe you have to set the log directory to a tmpfs of a specific size and rotate frequently.
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>>109170056
Upgraded? I was using the latest 6.8.0-124 and downgraded to 6.5.0-45. Maybe I should have picked a lower 6.8 version instead?
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>nigga is running mint 21 or 20
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>>109170177
>latest
>6.8
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>>109170177
upgrade your distro, you're running an older version of mint
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>>109170185
>>109170209
What am I doing wrong...
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>>109170216
Fuck I thought it would appear as a regular update and I was on the latest...
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>>109170223
Nigger you're on 21.1, linux mint is already on 22.3, i don't know how to upgrade mint because i don't use that newbie distro, i use opensuse tumbeweed or something.
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>>109170242
What distro should I switch to...
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>>109170234
i think you can find it on the system report window or something to that effect
or just run a dist-upgrade, should work too
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could i alias all my steam games to gamescope commands and run games from the TTY like it was the old DOS days
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>>109170254
Don't even switch dude, just upgrade mint.
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>>109170254
Type 'how to upgrade mint 21.3 to 22' into Google.
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>>109170316
>sudo mintupgrade
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>>109170275
What if I switched to CachyOS? I don't play video games but I have a Stronghold Crusader game on Steam that can run on the thinkpad probably.
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>>109170350
try it, who gives a fuck
from the sound of it there's no mission critical stuff on the laptop anyway, so fuck it
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>>109170350
>What if I switched to CachyOS?
>I don't play video games
NIGGER STAY ON MINT AND UPGRADE IT ALREADY
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>>109170467
Mission critical?
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>>109170477
Twin, it's been upgrading for the past hour now I'm waiting until it's done but I was just wondering if I should maybe dual boot Cachy and try it out if it's advertised as having better performance...
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>>109170481
Just stay on mint. you're going to shit your pants when something eventually breaks on cachy
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>>109170478
you normie motherfucker, means shit important to you
now fuck off and go do some dumb shit with your laptop already
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>>109170502
Not all of us are in the military. I've never been on a mission...
>>109170493
Well I can just ask in here and you guys can help me out. Free bumps, alive thread etc.
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>>109170511
>Not all of us are in the military. I've never been on a mission...
You've never been to school either it seems.
>Well I can just ask in here and you guys can help me out. Free bumps, alive thread etc.
You can ask.
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>>109170150
Gentoo writes more stuff than disk due to being a source based distro and constantly extracting source code tarballs to compile stuff which is why one of the documented things suggested to do on the gentoo wiki is to mount the portage cache directory in ram as a tmpfs
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>>109170540
The OP says to be friendly...
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>>109170544
I missed that completely. Wouldn’t have thought that someone needed to be told that reading and compiling source code took disk space. I guess I don’t know what could be different between distros in that case, they all do the same thing.
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>piracy via torrenting and soulseek
>music
>anime
>browsing securely
>sharing data via an SMB equivalent
>video recording and making webms and editing memes for 4chan
>Elden Ring (nvidia) and Project Diablo 2 (litrus) every 6 months when I get the itch
>hate AI

what's my distro
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>>109170805
artix/cachy/arch
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Is there a browser that will run hardware accelerated on Westmere Intel with OpenGL 2.1?
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>>109159246
>I love the thrill of not knowing whether my system will boot up after an update
this never happens ive been using arch for like 10 years and never once had a boot failure
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>mint upgrade finally completes after 55 years
>deletes my audacious

Fucking asshole.
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>>109168166
I did this last week.
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>>109170071
typical plasma big update
who knows if they will fix that bug
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Why does firefox file picker/file saver look like this on alpine linux? I have installed all grapics drivers according to https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Intel_Video
mesa-dri-gallium, mesa-va-gallium, mesa-vulkan-intel and libva-intel-driver as my processors is older than Broadwell (Sandy Bridge on ThinkPad X220) and added "export MESA_LOADER_DRIVER_OVERRIDE=crocus" to my ~/.xinitrc
There are also glitches in maps.google.com
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>>109171080
Sounds about right, they hate when you don't use exclusively out of date software.
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>>109171587
This is how it looks when posting a file
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>>109171587
retard
your clear name's in there
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>>109171692
And?
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>>109171705
Based clearposter
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>>109171705
This shit comes up in background checks and it's not a positive sign
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>>109171738
God forbid somebody finds out I had issues with Alpine Linux
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>>109168317
yes actually
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>>109162981
>If you have basically fast enough hardware, it's still basically fast enough with or without ntsync.
Ntsync isn't about speed it's about correctness. It may be faster than esync in some cases but that's not why it exists. It exists because it's the only correct way to implement the synchronisation primitives in the exact same way that Windows does.
Any distro that doesn't offer these correct synchronisation primitives and relies on hacky and potentially broken workarounds instead is a huge disappointment.
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>>109157276
I used to spoof useragent strings but now I just rawdog it. I've been fingerprinted so I don't even remember the last time they treated me like shit
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>>109171945
>X3D CPU with a GTX 1070
What an interesting pairing.
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>>109157114
I have successfully installed Gentoo...
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>>109172329
Congrats. Now ditch XLibre or move to Sonic DE. Plasma is going Wayland only in 6.8.
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>>109171945
You just gave an email?
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I am trying to install windows xp virtual machine on a LM laptop.
I am using the virtual box (base) found on the software manager, which I think is... oracle(?). I am using the ISO image off of archive.org, the one with 118k views, the 64 bit one.
>Any warnings?
>Any words of wisdom?
>Anything that could make this a bad idea or something I should handle differently?
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>>109172415
I hope the sonic de guys keep it up. The trinity guys are still going so it's possible.
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KDE:
can't span over 2 monitors (muh gayland muh multi-monitors)
most downloaded global theme is a purple and pink and gay looking tranny theme
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>>109172329
>-gentoo-dist-hardened
Is that like a pre made kernel? Using Gentoo, for now, but never learned the Gentoo way of installing kernels as I booted my own custom one with various distros.
And what's a hardened kernel anyway? Are there any downsides?
>>109170805
>browsing securely
What's that?
>sharing data via an SMB equivalent
Does this imply it has to be convenient? Any distro can do SMB service, at least manually. And learning to do it manually is a chore.
>>109170616
Yes, for a large piece of software the temporary build directory can take dozens of gigs.
>>109170544
Building can use up to 2GB per thread and I should set up RAM disk on top of that? Who has those amounts of RAM lmao
t. 32 threads, 64GB of RAM
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>>109172867
64 GB of RAM is plenty:
$ df -h /var/tmp/portage
Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/zram1 45G 1.1G 44G 3% /var/tmp/portage


This is BTRFS on top of a Zram block device rather than tmpfs but same idea.
I can compile almost everything in that but have some overrides for bigger packages like Firefox to compile in /var/tmp/notmpfs instead.
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Portage_TMPDIR_on_tmpfs#Per-package_choices_at_compile_time
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>>109172855
>can't span over 2 monitors (muh gayland muh multi-monitors)
What does that even mean? I use KDE Plasma with three monitors and no issues but I've never needed to "span" whatever the fuck that is.
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>>109172963
>>109172855
Or do you mean the window covering all monitors? This is the most useless thing ever in that case, but yes, it can do it, see (Pic).
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>>109172963
in Windows, Cinnamon, Gnome you can download a large image, set it as your background and have it spread over both monitors. Can't do it in KDE, you have to use a separate image in both monitors. So yeah, it's pretty terrible. And yes, I know I can 'edit' an image, crop it into two files, have ChatGPT write me a program to automatically chop an image into two separate files left and right... but that's fucking awful and you'd think that in 2026 KDE, a supposed 'premier' and cutting edge DE would have this basic bitch funtion
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>>109172867
>Yes, for a large piece of software the temporary build directory can take dozens of gigs.
Thanks, thought this was obvious but I suppose someone should say it clearly rather than my coy shitpost about it.
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>>109172503
I guess virtualbox is easier for newbies to use and more documented/video'd about but usually its recommended to install virt-manager or gnome boxes which are both gui frontends for libvirt qemu kvm since its a better hypervisor over virtualbox on linux
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>>109172867
I really should get around to installing gentoo on my main rig one of these days.
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>>109171587
I have an x220 and have never had to add any crocus environment variable. Is this wayland or xorg?
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>>109172995
Pretty sure you can do that in 5 seconds with Imagemagick. I don't know. I always used different wallpapers on each of my monitors.
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My Debian installation that I BARELY USE breaks SO OFTEN while my daily usage Arch installation that I update all the time and I don't even remember what kind of stuff I've configured, Never breaks. I just occasionally get some minor problem that has a self-evident fix.
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>>109175204
big if true
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>>109175204
That's because your buggy Debian install is frozen in time and rarely gets any real updates to it. If a fix for something is too complicated to backport then they just don't bother.

Meanwhile, on your Arch system you're more susceptible to bugs and issues in brand new versions of software but the developers usually quickly fix it anyway. For example, Plasma 6.7 only recently came out and they're already on 6.7.2 because of some of the issues with it.
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>>109175204
>>109175453
I use Debian and it has never broken on me. Even if I haven't updated in a while, I just do `sudo apt update` and `sudo apt full-upgrade` and the upgrades have always worked with no issues.
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>>109175488
That's the other side of the coin. If you don't experience any of these bugs and issues (perhaps you're using different software to them, different environments, etc) then it will pretty much stay that way for the entire lifetime of the OS.
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>>109175204
What the fuck are you doing anon?
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>>109175488
>>109175544
It's a study laptop. During the summer I use it to watch YouTube and update every few weeks and that's it. Last time I updated it, my wifi interface completely stopped working with no errors anywhere and I just used timeshift to restore it to before the update because I couldn't be bothered. I think that's the second time this year I've used timeshift to fix something because I simply can't be bothered. I just want it to WORK.
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>>109168918
Have had the same issue on gentoo for some time now, somewhere around the time I switched from xfce to KDE last year.
I just use the kde info tool or smartctl.
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how do i reduce cooldown/time untill automatic selection in post bios selection screen?
not grub, the one before that
using antix btw
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>>109176223
Huh?
Anything before grub should be your BIOS/UEFI
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>>109176283
what about this
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>>109176434
Clean your monitor then clean yourself.
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>>109176434
Oh, I didn't know they had their own bootloader thingy.
I looked at their page and couldn't really find anything related to the timeout.
There are options with the F-keys, maybe go through them if you haven't.
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>>109176434
Nasty monitor
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>>109176494
Tnx man will try
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>>109176434
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What's a good wmctrl alternative for wayland? I want to script window geometries in KDE.
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>>109165199

basically choose ffmpeg and imagemagick flavour if alpine or mutt works nice
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>>109176848
kdotool
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>>109174474
I just did what the guide recommended. Turns out the problem still exist even if I remove the variable. I am using cwm through startx command-
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>>109157114
I'm on Bazzite. It doesn't let me use the "sudo" command. I have to use rpm-ostree, but none of the install instructions that the internet gives me are compatible with rpm-ostree.

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-gb/dotnet/core/install/linux-scripted-manual#manual-install

Can't get the .NET shit to actually install.
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>>109177056
Thank you, this works perfectly and is better than wmctrl IMO
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>>109177109
You're better off just installing regular fedora, these immutable meme distros start falling apart once you need to install external software that doesnt come pre-installed with the distro.
Otherwise if you know what you're doing you can try to set up a distrobox to run dotnet stuff.
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if i cant pick what monitor the gamemode appears on then i might as well run a standard Linux distro like cachy or arch
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>>109177206
It's made specifically for KDE Wayland so naturally it works better
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>>109177372
SteamOS is for the steamiedeck and steamiemachines hooked up to a TV. People who say they'll switch to Linux when a proper SteamOS comes out for the PC are woefully misinformed and will be extremely disappointed when they find out it's just a shitty version of arch. cachyos is probably the best way forward for normie gaymers.
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>>109177416
i mean personally i was looking forward to a sort of " focus mode" for gaming
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>>109177424
Just set up steam big picture mode to start on start up. there you got steamieOS on your distro of choice.
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What's the correct way to dual boot windows and linux? I'm tired of this dogshit windows 10 but I wanna test out some distros with dool booting first.
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Artix Linux
zbarimg: error while loading shared libraries: libMagickWand-7.Q16HDRI.so.10: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

tried to symlink newer lib
zbarimg: /usr/lib/libMagickWand-7.Q16HDRI.so.10: version `VERS_10.0' not found (required by zbarimg)

I guess I'll move back to Arch because shit like this happens too often and exactly when I need mentioned software. Thanks for reading my blog.
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>>109177509
Re-compile the package with makepkg. This is nothing to do with Artix Vs Arch.
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>>109177535
To be clear, this happened because either Arch or Artix recently updated Imagemagick and didn't re-compile all the dependent packages yet.

Just clone the package, cd into the directory and run
makepkg -si
and you'll be good again.
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>>109177564
>Arch or Artix
oh which could it be
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>>109177535
>>109177564
thanks
but desu I think packages on Arch are updated more in sync
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>>109177614
>he didn't install the arch repos on artix
kek
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>>109177614
Yes, because Arch doesn't have to worry about re-building everything without Systemd deps. If you don't care about using Systemd then you should never have used Artix in the first place.
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>>109177620
almost nothing depends on systemd except like Gnome and the plasma login manager
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>>109177636
Lots of packages depend on libsystemd actually, even some you'd never think of naturally depending on it like Qt, for example.
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>>109177647
Qt doesn't depend on Systemd lmao, what are you talking about? yeah bro the cross platform ui toolkit depends on a linux exclusive dependency lmao
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>>109177661
Exclusively, no. That's why they re-compile it. If you compile it with it enabled like Arch does though (and many dependencies are implicit the list on: https://archlinux.org/packages/core/x86_64/systemd/ is not the complete list) then it does.

It's not like an optional thing that fails gracefully. If something links to libsystemd.so and suddenly you don't have that then the whole world falls apart. That's why Artix re-builds many packages (if they didn't then it'd just be Archlinux).
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>>109177060
Do you have a compositor like picom or xcompmgr running?
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>>109177680
554 packages. QT nowhere to be found.
Most... no the vast majority of packages do not depend on systemd.
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>>109177424
If you're looking for something close to a "console" like experience for linux you might want to try looking at batocera
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>>109177716
Implicit dependencies on libsystemd.so aren't listed there. Read what I fucking wrote for Christ's sake.

That page only lists EXPLICIT dependencies.

I think this confusion is probably coming from you not understanding how Artix works. They don't build every single package from source like most distros do. Instead, they sync most of their packages from Arch and only re-build those that need re-building. Sometimes you can get issues like this where they're temporarily out-of-sync while their builder is busy re-building something. It's quite normal and just the way it works.

If you want something more reliable without Systemd I'd suggest Alpine or Void or Gentoo, etc. But as I said earlier, if you never cared about Systemd then Artix should have never been in contention in the first place. Just use Arch at that point.
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>>109177756
Qt does not depend on systemd in any way you fucking moron. Stop speaking out of your ass pick a better example than qt for your retarded argument.
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>>109177798
Yes, I'm sure that's why the very first thing a
pacman -S qt6-base
does is pull in systemd-libs then, right? Fucking moron.
core/systemd-libs          261.1-1           3.70 MiB       1.39 MiB
extra/tslib 1.24-1 0.47 MiB 0.10 MiB
extra/wayland 1.25.0-1 0.84 MiB 0.14 MiB
extra/xcb-proto 1.17.0-4 1.03 MiB 0.13 MiB
extra/xcb-util 0.4.1-2 0.03 MiB 0.01 MiB
extra/xcb-util-cursor 0.1.6-1 0.03 MiB 0.01 MiB
extra/xcb-util-image 0.4.1-3 0.05 MiB 0.02 MiB
extra/xcb-util-keysyms 0.4.1-5 0.02 MiB 0.01 MiB
extra/xcb-util-renderutil 0.3.10-2 0.03 MiB 0.01 MiB
extra/xcb-util-wm 0.4.2-2 0.21 MiB 0.03 MiB
extra/xdg-utils 1.2.1-2 0.30 MiB 0.06 MiB
extra/xkeyboard-config 2.48-1 10.24 MiB 0.87 MiB
extra/xorgproto 2025.1-1 1.47 MiB 0.24 MiB
extra/qt6-base 6.11.1-1 66.63 MiB 15.61 MiB
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>>109177813
There are a lot more packages than Qt that implicitly depend on systemd-libs too, by the way. If you just take the packages from a Systemd distro like Artix does (instead of re-building them from source) then you will have a lot of things that depend on libsystemd.so that need re-building to work.
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>>109177834
And then because they need to re-build those packages sometimes it complicates bumping a package like Imagemagick that has downstream dependents like zbar.
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>>109177813
I consneed. Now I'm just upset that it's even true. Fuck that shit.
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>>109177813
i have a feeling that wayland is what's pulling in systemd-libs as a dependency and not qt6-base
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>>109177845
No, it's actually listed there as a dependency:
https://archlinux.org/packages/extra/x86_64/qt6-base/

This is one of those explicit dependencies, which is good, because it means a distro like Artix can clearly know that this needs re-building.

Sometimes you get silent dependencies that aren't documented in the PKGBUILD because some CMake or Meson build will check for libsystemd and enable optional feature magically without telling you. That's what really hurts for a distro like Artix that is dependent on Arch and doesn't re-build absolutely everything themselves.
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New thread:
>>109177983
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>>109177860
>it's actually listed there as a dependency:
>Sometimes you get silent dependencies that aren't documented in the PKGBUILD because some CMake or Meson build will check for libsystemd and enable optional feature magically without telling you
that's retarded but makes sense i guess
wouldnt be surprising that the optional libsystemd feature included in the cmake/meson build is something dumb like .service files, no idea why qt6 would need to provide .service files though
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>>109177844
lol
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>>109174454
Appreciated, though, do you have any comparisons between them? I can not find anything more descriptive than "better" or "easier" in discussion around them, and I am probably not going to do the tests themselves or try new ones unless this one fails. Is there something that makes it significantly better as an option?
Also... How do you transfer files into a vm without internet... I know this is probably a silly question but I am not seeing a way to open the directory for the vm in my normal lm file manager
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>copy thing to flash drive on windows
>2 mbps
>copy thing to flash drive on linux
>30 mbps

Literally how and why?
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>>109179083
windows disables write caching for external drives by default. this does make transfers take longer overall, but not by as much as you're seeing directly, what you're seeing is the job being likely largely cached (based on the size of the speed difference) and completing at a higher level while the rest of the data is being written out physically.

the reason windows disables write caching by default is because this goes over most people's heads and most people expect to yank a drive once the copy dialogue goes away, which precludes write caching
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Cachy kinda sucks to be completely honest from the bottom of my heart.
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>>109179302
elaborate please



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