Discussion and Development of Local Image, Video, and Music ModelsPrevious: >>109157211https://rentry.org/ldg-lazy-getting-started-guide>UIComfyUI: https://github.com/comfyanonymous/ComfyUISwarmUI: https://github.com/mcmonkeyprojects/SwarmUISDWebUI: https://rentry.org/ldg-lazy-getting-started-guide#the-stable-diffusion-web-ui-lineageWan2GP: https://github.com/deepbeepmeep/Wan2GP>Checkpoints, LoRAs, & Upscalershttps://huggingface.co/modelshttps://civitai.comhttps://civitaiarchive.com/https://openmodeldb.info>Tuninghttps://github.com/spacepxl/demystifying-sd-finetuninghttps://github.com/ostris/ai-toolkithttps://github.com/Nerogar/OneTrainerhttps://github.com/tdrussell/diffusion-pipehttps://github.com/kohya-ss/sd-scriptshttps://github.com/kohya-ss/musubi-tuner>Krea 2https://huggingface.co/krea/Krea-2-Rawhttps://huggingface.co/krea/Krea-2-Turbo>Zhttps://huggingface.co/Tongyi-MAI/Z-Image>Animahttps://huggingface.co/circlestone-labs/Animahttps://tagexplorer.github.io/https://animadex.net>Qwenhttps://huggingface.co/collections/Qwen/qwen-image>Kleinhttps://huggingface.co/collections/black-forest-labs/flux2>LTX-2.3https://huggingface.co/collections/Lightricks/ltx-23>Wanhttps://github.com/Wan-Video/Wan2.2>Chromahttps://huggingface.co/lodestones/Chroma1-Basehttps://rentry.org/mvu52t46>MiscLocal Model Meta: https://rentry.org/localmodelsmetaShare Metadata: https://catbox.moe | https://litterbox.catbox.moe/Txt2Img Plugin: https://github.com/Acly/krita-ai-diffusionArchive: https://rentry.org/sdg-linkCollage: https://rentry.org/ldgcollage>Neighbors>>>/aco/csdg>>>/b/degen>>>/gif/vdg>>>/d/ddg>>>/e/edg>>>/h/hdg>>>/trash/slop>>>/vt/vtai>>>/u/udg>Local Text>>>/g/lmg>Maintain Thread Qualityhttps://rentry.org/debohttps://rentry.org/animanon
>>109161087I'm not an anime fag>>109161031>>109161069https://civitai.red/images/135210245same deal
2026 sucks, the only decent model we had was Flux.2 Klein
This.
>>109158678its peak
I meant to say >>109161136^this
>>109161136^This.
>>109161121Last test. Left: SDXL. Right: Anima.
Krea2 is probably the easiest its ever been to make comics/manwha/manga etc. Especially with some of those complicated compositions where one scene blends into the next one - something even cloud models fail to do. The text generation is lackluster but honestly you can just have the model generate the text boxes and them composite the text yourself.
>>109161179dumb tests
>>109161179https://civitai.red/images/135210265prompt and settings
>>109161121>I'm not an anime fagThen don't fucking use anime as comparsion, if you can't tell if it generates the characters correctly.
>>109161184You have a point. To be fair, I should at least be generous to SDXL and pick better checkpoints. The truth is, I'm an Anima fanboy, so I deliberately picked some of the worst CivitAI shitmerges, I practically selected them without even looking because I want Anima to win.
>>109161136Local has been thriving. Its cloud models that have stagnated into complete shitty uselessness.That includes LLMs too unless you're a vibecoding grifter. Gemma 4 has been more useful for me than shit ass fucking Claude
>>109161196Yeah, but like I said during that test, it never really mattered much to me anyway. Character knowledge is arbitrary in the grand scheme of things. What matters is quality, and in that regard, I like Anima more.
>>109161136https://huggingface.co/wikeeyang/Flux2-Klein-9B-True-V3New and improved model just dropped.
Interesting that 7 months after Anima’s release, there still hasn’t been a comparison with SDXL, while Kreka, Klein, and Z Image were compared from day one.
>>109161273>https://huggingface.co/wikeeyang/Flux2-Klein-9B-True-V3Interesting
>>109161273>no int8yawn
>>109161278Anima is shit at sex positions which is the entire point of the vramlet slop models. Russ cannot into datasets or use a proper fucking captioning tool. fucking Gemma? seriously?!?!
loving krea so far.
>>109161292>Gemmakek fucking retard. he only used it for the example style lora
>>109161282convrot version pls
>>109161317he used it for the captioning
>>109161318I like how the "wen gguf" meme wille become "wel convrot" from now on
>>109161328for the captioning of what
>>109161334Anima previews and base
>>109161333kind of. a lot of people still need gguf because int8 is still too big or dynamic vram is fucking them over
>convrotsomeone explain this meme to me
>>109161341anima's training began long before the release of gemma 4 fucking retard
>>109161328>>109161292Yeah. No wonder Anima can't understand proper positioning. Vision AI is shit at describing anime pictures. Especially anything related to sex.
>>1091613502x faster than fp8, better quality, it's a miracle
>>109161365>rtx3090yawnwhat are the numbers on ada and blackwell?
>>109161365is it faster than fp16?
>>109161378fp16 and fp8 have similar speed, so yeah
>>109161377from what I search convrot is specifically for 3090 because it doesnt have fp8 "support", since 4090 has it it doesn't do anything to it
>>109161384alright, so it's a boost for poorfagssad and gay
>>109161389aww cheer up buddy, you still have fp4
>>109161389>it's a boost for poorfagsso it's a boost for 95% of users, who the fuck have a 4090 or a 5090 nowdays?
>>109161389you're bitter because older cards can now have similar speed than your 3000 dollars card, no refund btw
>>109161384>>109161389it's also giving a boost of speed for more recent cards (abeit more modest one), and since the quality of int8-convrot is also better than fp8, there's still no reason to keep using fp8 from now on
>>109161419alright already, I'm sold
>>109161365just make a int6, int5 and int4 and gguf are dead, Comfy was right to not support it after all
>>109161434not how that works
>>109161434comfy didn't invent convrot retard and gguf is still superior for llms
>>109161282Thanks for sharing, very interesting.btw, happy monday /ldg/ any new cope of the week?
>>109161453>comfy didn't invent convrotI never said he did, are you mentally challenged?>gguf is still superior for llmswho gives a fuck about llms this is a diffusion model general, oh god you're so fucking dumb
>>109161434Yannik fluoride stare
>>109161282The loss of quality is minimal in relation to speed. Thank you for sharing, kind anon. One small step at a time is all we need. ^^
>>109161454yup thats me, you're probably wondering how i got here
>>109161342next one is in the oven
>>109161454>>109161472bot
>>109161384No it boosts 40xx and 50xx as wll, to the tune of 20-30% depending on resolution
>>109161473ZiT is still great for realism, and it's easy training loras for people and have them come out great, NSFW training is much harder but you can still get good results, biggest problem is that once you try to use more than two loras at the same time, the quality goes to crap.Krea 2 is almost as good at training persons, better at artstyles, MUCH better at NSFW and it can handle more than two loras without any problems
>>109161562unfortunate then cuz I can't get that shit to work, made black images here, will look around/update later and try again
>>109161592i hope you're lying
>>109161599You are most likely using the wrong model file, use:Krea2_Turbo_convrot_int8mixed.safetensors from here: https://huggingface.co/Winnougan/Krea-2-Base-Turbo-NVFP4-FP8-INT8/tree/main
>>109161273>>109161282>>109161472mxfp8
>>109161282no int8 no try
gguf status?
>>109161282>why... so... buttchin...?
>>109161622why use this over silveroxide
>>109161604The only lies I make are those towards the unpaid janitors. I had 52 days of sheer contempt and no distractions to make ammo/AI gens, even with a shitty 3090 laptop in the field and at sea.>>109161454May I ask what is the work flow for this or catbox? I personally hate "Jacks with a passion and anything to do with sharty but this looks like it has promising use.
>>109161679why not, if it works it works, I don't give a fuck who's making it
>>109161434CUTIE ALERT
>>109161686you really should look up how vaginas work at some point catpissjulien
>>109161636is it with an image reference, or is it just a simple text2image? looks good either way
>>109161592>>109161686Did the blog factory explode
>>109161282one of the biggest issues with this model is prompt adherence and this feels alot better but I dunno,
Whatever happened to Ani is he still here?
>>109161282Klein 9b is the reason why I don't take licences seriously, BFL's licence is terrible yet you have two big finetune projects on that model, it just shows that when a base model is good and has potential, people will go for it, regardless of everything elsehttps://huggingface.co/fancyfeast/bigasp-3
>>109161754No clue
int8convrot vs fp8both from https://huggingface.co/Winnougan/Krea-2-Base-Turbo-NVFP4-FP8-INT8/tree/mainer sde 16 steps beta, wtf?
>>109161773you need to show bf16 too to see which one is the closest to it
soulful zitslop
>>109161781I don't have that, reduced to 8 steps (I remember klein turbo also fried if you went too much over the turbo number of steps), now convrot just looks more detailed
>>109161806>convrot just looks more detailedI guess that's good
>>109161282I think bigasp has more potential since it can do coom
>>109161773>>109161806I am noticing the residual noise in the convrot more than the others but the others smooth everything out. probably not the best sampler/scheduler combo or maybe not enough steps
Is the janitor x tohsaka guy like targeting a guy who waifus tohsaka or whats happening here.
>>109161832>I am noticing the residual noise in the convrot more than the othersfor Krea 2 it's good since that model tends to make look everything like some studio photoshopped edits
>>109161679I don't know what silveroxide's version is, but this one works with Comfy int8, that I know
>>109161827Potential to be banned since BFL can revoke his right to distribute the model if they don't like what it does, as per the Klein 9B license
>>109161708t2i
>>109161861he took the risk, we'll see if he'll get rewarded for it or not
>>109161865can you try with an image reference and see if it keeps the people's face better or not
>>109161843I think its some kinda humilation fetish correct me if i'm wrong.I mean if you hate the jannies that much why would post pictures of them fucking girls? Right?
>>109161861which is why I earlier said he's a fucking moron for not just training animaif you're training a model with a non commercial license anyway, then compared to klein 9b, anima has:no rugpull terms in the licensecomes with full booru knowledge and nsfwsmaller and fastersurprisingly good realism already using some shitty loras + prompt wranglingimagine what happens if anima gets a few million high res photos trained into it
>>109161937tranima only has anime knowledge, is a fucking 2b model and has fucking Qwen vae, and you think this will be enough to get good coom realism? he's right for going for Klein 9b, he's not doing it for the money...
>>109161937>imagine what happens if anima gets a few million high res photos trained into itwe don't have to. The catastrophic forgetting meme turned out to be real
>>109161937just use cosmos predict 2 if you like realism anima that much
>>109161951Did you ever find proof for this or are you still memeing
>>109161937you lost turd russel
>>109161937I agree that it's a really weird choice since all that time and money spent on training can be worth nothing should BFL decide that they don't like the type of images are being generated by a model that is a derivative of theirs, particularly since they are oh-so gung-ho about SAFETY.I mean yes, it's his time and money to spend as he see fit, but it seems stupid...
>>109161951>catastrophic forgettinghow was anima trained to know as much as it does in the first place, if it just forgets everything when you try to train it? nobody can answer this question. it's almost like people are simply frying it with dogshit sdxl training settings and then blaming the model
>>109161960>Did you ever find proof for thisno he did not
>>109161960he forgot where
>>109161754i was thinking about visiting him in carla street
>>109161970not stupid at all, this gigachad is just not afraid to BFL, so far they haven't asked him to remove his model so...
>>109161937I don't think anima was released when he started tho, right?
>>109162085possibly, but for every past bigasp model he rented multiple h100 nodes and training only took like 2 weeks. if it's the same here then the training run would have started post-anima
>>109162126>ecelebthose are all just regular celebs
>>109162126so slopped
GIVE ME NVFP4!!!! FUCK ALL YOU POORFAGS!!!
>>109162126they put a safety filter just so that this fucking model can render some celeb slop, let that sink in
>109162209:skull:blud thinks this is trueXD
>>109161974>>109162008wood berry
which one of you is this
Q8 or death
>>109162236lmao, link?
>>109162236>tagexplorer.io anon kek he must be meming
>>109162230know your Ramona
>>109162236he didn't react to my mails so i'm trying like this kek
>>109162236>>109162251I thought you didn't like him. But more importantly, are you gonna update tagexplorer for anima base?
>>109161183ideogram is easier both for the composition and text tho.not saying krea2 is bad
>>109162266>I thought you didn't like him.yeah i think he's a pedo
>>109162236Higher chance on return of investment than buying OpenAI stock though
What's the goto for disabling the filter in ideogram4? Skipping one step ruins the image entirely. Not even nsfw shit, just get rid of it entirely.
>>1091622774-5 bounding boxes
>>109162277IIRC people just used a few bboxes until the censorship is ignored
>>109162236https://github.com/FizzleDorf/AniStudio/issues/89>What is the status of this project?lmaoooooo
>>109162277a guy posted a nsfw one that only worked when you included a big enough bbox with text somewhere, like, it could even be empty
>>109162236I came across some old screenshots i had of anistudio and was reminded of how cozy it is. Shame the development pretty much halted. Just a couple QOL bugs and some other stuff needs to be ironed out desu.
Stop bullying Ani, degenerates. He just wanted to make own gui and model.
>>109162327this is honestly why is is better than most faggots that post here, myself included
desu if you cant handle a bit of banter then you shouldnt be a 4chan dev
explain to me like i'm retarded (I am)what benefit does raw have for inference over turbo? I understand turbo is distilled or whatever but does that drastically change quality of output?
>>109162287>>109162289Huh, that works. It's a powerful tool, just annoying for simple images.
>>109162327>>109162333he shitposted on this general way too hard to deserve any respect
>>109162343You are replying to him, but you certainly knew that. On another topic, what's the point of impersonating me?
>>109162340The benefit of raw is that it wasn't raped with aethetic tuning. More varied outputs than turbo.
>>109162348>impersonating mewho?
>>109162340depends on the model, in general the base model would be more capable, more adhering to the prompt overall whereas turbo step diffusion just takes the fast shortcutsbut then there are the turbo checkpoints that got RL training at the same time where the base model did not and so on.it's a difficult thing in detail the same way as explaining how many steps on what model do what>>109162342agreed.
>>109162273But what about the other thing
>>109161590Krea 2 trains like a champ and takes on several loras like a cheap whore.
>>109162327He shat on his former friend for literal monthsHe's literal human garbage (not only because of that) and deserves all the bullying
>>109162374this
https://xcancel.com/LiangZheng_06/status/2071374479406813197#muh oh, pixel sissies, our answer?
>>109162327He never showed any interest or initiative in making a model until the moment Anima dropped. Then he suddenly kicked into high gear trying to spitebake a clone. And it truly was a pure spitebake attempt. If you track down some discord messages, the latest plan before it all fizzled out was to copy anima's architecture exactly, same LLM adapter and text encoder, same VAE, same everything, and retrain from the original cosmos weights just to have a different license.
>>109162409Dis nigga don't know bout the editing? HOLY LEL
>>109162271True - if you're making entire pages ideogram is definitely better, for example pic related.But I just dont have as much success on a per generation basis with ideogram, plus it takes longer.
>>109162409does he mean he has BOTH a good vae and a main model trained faster and better than a pixel space model with all the same resolution flexibility etc?i mean... most want the vae out of the way because it gives weird compression errors and figuring out a great vae itself also isn't easy... maybe that's an overly simple way to describe this and someone has better wording, but either way the interaction of the vae training and model training is a bit bothersome
>>109162419that's still something, but yeah>discord dramaI hate how newfags get 0 memos on discord cancer, we're not supposed to join any discord ever, if you had seen all the bullshit that's been going on there, you'd avoid it like the plagueit's not le ebin 4chins frens hangout they want to sell you it is, it's full of setups through and through >>109162419
chinese vae's just kicked my dog
>>109162454That's nice
>>109162305Is this the part where you cry about how "he" was "bullied so hard he had quit thanks to these threads"?
>>109162474>and figuring out a great vae itself also isn't easy...it definitely isn't, the krea fags said that they spend the first 3 months trying to find the right vae and text encoder, if you can simplify the architecture by removing the vae, it'll make the life easier for everyone involved
>>109162305It's a featureless wrapper that crashes all the time anon
>>109162490No he's a pussy who can't hang i just like the concept of what he was trying to do. I already vibecoded by own UI.
>>109162490I wonder if he unuronically thinks that "schizo anon" (the made up person in his head) is the reason his project failed
>>109162409>pixel sissies, our answer?a 1 parameter model converges the fastests of all of them so, nice metric
>>109162546uhm.... that's wrongthink!
>>109162493right? for now this seems much easier. idk how that guy doesn't know this despite probably being more skilled in this field overall.
>>109161887like this?
>>109161454>any new cope of the week?Yeah, a not so good style transfer for Krea, a not so good improvment for Klein
>>109162490In the discord he said he's not "supporting" (= pulling sd.cpp) anima on purpose so his "users" (lol) wouldn't use itYes, he's that much of a faggot
>>109162646based billionaire jew mindset.
>>109162305>>109162327>>109162333Imagine not only being subhumanly retarded, but also a rape victimOh right, that's something Julien doesn't have to imagine LMFAO
>You should see an update in the next 24 hours.Prepare for this week to be full of Anima and Comfy fuding. And not the smart kind.
>>109162698>an update in the next 24 hours.what? there will be a new version of anima or something?
>>109162698aren't they just releasing their updates? fud how
>>109162703Learn to read
>>109162719read what?
I used ChatGPT to change her race, original on the left, is there anyway to change someones skin colour in a video but keep everything else the same? I have a 5070 ti and ComfyUI already installed but I don't really know how to use it.
>>109162725gross and disgusting,yummy,yummy,oooo mama yummy she makes my fa lala go la la la
>>109162703>>an update in the next 24 hours.do you think he'll finally fix wrap around text in the prompt boxes kek or add some "new" samplers and schedulers
>>109162725who cares - what you just made is useless shit and you could probably put it out completely deformed and it wouldn't change a thing
>>109162725Is it possible to do it with picrel?I had a look at the nodes and it wants a reference video and image, if I use another AI to alter her appearance in a screenshot of the first frame and use that as the reference image and the original video as the reference video, will that work?
Using other models after Krea feels like absolute shit.
>>109162792I deleted anima because of this
kemonotech.ai
>>109162792>Using other models after Krea feels like absolute shit.>Krea*Z-image turbo
>>109162800>trannytech.aino thanks.
>>109162725"sexy" ayys crack me up
>>109162800Do you want to get the IP of "singular schizo anon"?Because you will never catch him lolcow
>>109162800>wasting money on a .'ai' to post a shitty obviously claude vibe coded website. baka....
We at /ldg/ eagerly anticipate FurkUI
>>109162837Prompt and model?
Feels fizzly here
>>109162792Ideogram still beats it for realism lora training (even NSFW) provided you have enough data. And you don't have to deal with the stubbornness and slight slop of a turbo model.
>>109162862bbox a shit on my cock; very smelly
>>109162854https://civitai.red/models/2210210/zootopia-1-and-2-style-krea-2-il-anima?modelVersionId=3079184>>109162862Yeah but I dont make shitty porn addiction images so I'm good lil bro
>>109162845You will only be able to prompt 'ohwx man' and the only image it will gen is a sweaty Furkan
>>109162880What more could you possibly need
wait is the ani guy the guy who made swarmUi? that shit is baller as fuck
>>109162942Yes
>>109162725>>109162766Is this a better choice?
35 stars status?
technology is amazing. this nigga made a television display an image of cheese
>>109161590>ZiT is still great for realismIn a single stock style that's very close to slop, with Asian faces that look extremely similar*Outside of it, not so great. Plus there's no seed variety. I will never get the "Z is great for realism" meme.
>>109163055let's see your krea cope screenshots
Anyone else getting png transparency backgrounds with id4?
>>109161773>>109161832Winnougan is and always has been a retard and quantized the entire damn thing without utilizing a proper layer filter.This is a way better version: https://huggingface.co/silveroxides/K2Q/tree/main
>>109163055Also similar poses regardless of how hard you prompt. Same pose, same face, same style. Maybe would've been decent with the equivalent of a reconditioning node there to decensor its slop, but that would only expose it can only those poses, faces and style well.
>>109163074safety filter
>mfw my date asks for a second happy meal>>109163082Weird filter.
>>109163108mcdonalds ceo needs to take notes on how a real man eats a borger
>royally fuck up the python embded env while updating torch without realizing shit aint compatible yet>decided to move to UVI graduated ;)
>>109163130>>109163016
>>109163134119k, troontard
>>109163073I don't consider ZiT slop realistic. The closest I could find to its aesthetic in the wild is some heavily edited kpop images or kdrama screenshots. No DSLR or smartphone camera takes pictures or anything like it, because, why would they? It lacks dynamic range, and Z is at best pseudo-realistic with the same faced humans it's depicting.
>>10916313438 stars now bitch
>>109163147Then again, maybe if we go back to the 70s, suddenly Z images are realistic.
silveroxides vs Winnougan convrot
Give Ani a star to show your support!
>>109163075>Winnougan is and always has been a retardalmost as retarded as naming your repo "K2Q" with no readme and no explanation whatsoever of what the files are or how to use them or why you would use one over the other. and then doing that for every single model you upload. and then crashing out on discord if anyone asks "what is this? what version am I supposed to use?"
>>109163176make it a femboy and maybe i'll look at your image
forgive ani
>>109163185Yea I kind of agree with this. Like if it was a girl it would be easy ofcourse, but a femboy is also quite easy on the eyes. These muscular guys in feminine clothing make it really difficult to analyze the image properly, because I become actively averted by the image. No offense to you posting the image ofcourse, if that's what you like, that's what you like. Just giving my two cents aswell.
>>109163075>Winnougan is and always has been a retardbut naming a repo "K2Q" isn't? give me a fucking break
>>109163185Sorry, only high T images
Is there any node that allows to merge klein with ratios given block by block?
>>109163074transparency was a mistake, ideogram has a lot of shit ideas desu, but I respect that they tried something new, but c'mon, forcing bboxes isn't the way to go
>>109163147It's always uphill battle against zit gens. So close to greatness until you look closer.
>>109163263Fuck off debo
>>109163147>I don't consider ZiT slop realistic.ZiT is not perfect, but it's way closer to realism to Krea 2, and if you say otherwise you need to get your eyes checked
>>109163263Melty gen
>>109163248I think some people just forget what photos look like in the spirit of image gen. By good "realism" they mean it gens neat with little mistakes images in that style (exactly as intended to by overfitting it in same face, same pose, same style). If you were to remind them what photos actually look like, they'd understand why Chroma is one of the greatest models ever released, but of course, they're not after actual realism, but slop, so they will shit on Chroma etc...
>>109163282Chroma was never critisized for being a slopped model, the problem with Chroma was its consistency, Z-image turbo and Krea 2 can give you coherent images 90% of the time, with Chroma it's more like 30% of the time, it's a frustrating model to play with, it has the heightest highs, but also really low lows
>>109163248>>109163176what is convrot? a new cope quant?
>>109163300>what is convrot?probably the best thing we got this year >>109161365
>>109163266Of course. It gives you neat images in what the model thinks is realism. Still not more coherent than Krea though, you can't even properly do a flip or a place model upside down while controlling the position of their feet with Z because the devs didn't intend you to.
ZiT was only "good" at realism when it first released and maybe a couple weeks after. Its distilled nature made it very boring very quick desu. Base did not have this problem.
>>109163308Alright, now give me the bitter pill. This is local, so you always end up paying it back double or triple in some other cost, right? So tell me: do you have to retrain the models from scratch? Does it not work with any LoRA at all? Does it load the whole model into RAM? Does it hammer your SSD with extra writes and shorten its lifespan? Does it need some janky dependency that only runs on one specific, opinionated version of Linux?
Ideogram can do 4k, I think that's neat
>>109163308Does it work with stable-confusion.cpp or is it mutually exclusive with what ggufs do?
>>109163357no bitter pill anon, it's easy and fast to convert, it can be loaded with the normal comfyui loader, it's as big as fp8 while having a better quality and is 2x faster, this convrot method (thank you google for inventing that) was already a big deal on the LLM space, it was used to quant the KV cache, I didn't expect it to be a hit on the diffusion models as well but here it is
>>109161248Local was ,is , and will forever be shit
>>109163365sd.cpp is super behind in basically every way
>>109163371Alright, so which models actually support that? Guess I'll migrate my LoRA training and finetunes over to something better then, Anima's been nothing but a headache.
>>109163384But on the other hand I don't need a gorillion python dependencies and venvs.It's also got Anima, Ideogram4 and Krea2 “already”, so it's no longer behind on the SOTA models
>>109163384If that's the case why do some anons think everyone will switch to it from others?
>>109163392>Alright, so which models actually support that?all the relevant models I guesshttps://huggingface.co/models?search=convrot
>>109163282I'd rank Zbase higher than Chroma, Ideogram probably beats both
>>109161773Only valid comparison is to the original fp16. It's making it more realistic (probably by actually bringing out the sampler)... try fewer steps. Different samplers will probably look like the right btw.
>>109163384in what? It supports all the models that matter and had int8 for over a year
can krea 2 have the subject be off center?
is it genuinely unironically over for anima?? krea just does everything better and hasn't even been finetuned yet.
>>109163416Yeah just prompt for it
>>109163426no danbooru artists doe
>>109163426krea is too slowa extensive fine-tune would render the turbo un-usable, and the new raw checkpoint would be colossally slow because of CFG, unless its both finetuned and a distill is also provided
>>109163433>krea is too slowDo you have 2gb of vram or something
>>109163438I'm on a 4090, have you tried generating a image on the undistilled model?
>>109163438saaar please no make fun of my financial status
turbokekking is the new sabotage. guarantees the model will never be tuned properly
Can local finally make gens of a character with just an image reference or you still coping with loras?
>>109163426>>109163432Computer, calculate how much it would cost to train Krea Raw on danbooru >>109163450True. But all the poorfags go crazy for it. Some have also tricked themselves into liking the aethetics and rigidity as well.
>>109163429i hadn't downloaded the model yet i was wondering if people had examples cause my internet kinda shit
>>109163371>it can be loaded with the normal comfyui loaderNo it can't. If it works, you're just using regular INT8.
I'm not noticing any difference in video quality on Wan 2.2 with turbo mode enabled, does it affect quality that much?
why not just finetune turbo? if loras work, why wouldn't a finetune work?
>>109163471>if loras work, why wouldn't a finetune work?because... it wouldn't? If you can lift 1gram why can't you lift 1ton?
>>109163462Models that use LLMs as encoders like krea have spatical understanding
if anima2 is trained on krea2 ill use it regardless of the 5min gen times
>>109163503there will never be an anima2 ya duhmass
>>109163392Most models should work. You can convert and use them with this nodehttps://github.com/BobJohnson24/ComfyUI-INT8-FastPicrel is how you convert.
>>109163503*forgot to add, "if Anima 2 is trained without tdrusell in charge and using the Noob dataset...!
>>109163464yes it can, what are you talking about?https://github.com/Comfy-Org/ComfyUI/pull/14636
the noob dataset is unironically garbage. chinks have no idea how to train a model
>>109163526they view life in widescreen. dunno why anybody thought they could put together a good dataset.
>>109163524Again, that's regular INT8 not convrot. If you try to run a INT8-convrot model with the normal loader, you get this error.You need this node >>109163514 to run and quant to convrot.
>>109163459lollmao even
>>109163526Funny you say that. Never once needed 'ai generated' in my negative prompt with Noob, but with Anima it's mandatory thanks to that built in slop bias. Never got that paint splattered hair look with Noob, never got that WAI sheen either, those are an Anima and pony score exclusive.
ah. woops.
It was a lot simpler when you just picked the .gguf that fit in your vram
Inability to properly comprehend English lead to China completely falling behind in the natural language era. This is why they have been unable to match nano banana, gpt, flux, krea, ideogram, etc. They have the most dogshit captions imaginable, just slopped through JoyCaption-tier (noob team showed these off themselves btw, they were terrible). Local captioners (like most local models in general) are really bad. If you want to train a proper model you need to shill out for top-tier captioning through Gemini, Claude, etc.
>>109163405Flux.2 VAE with a decent realism tune will always beat Chroma at realism, but the problem is that Ideogram lacks variety in styles, and always adds too much detail. Besides, you'd be surprised what you can push Krea 2 combined with Chroma to do with the right settings>>109159306 despite lacking the Flux.2 VAE... the model suddenly punches way above its weight with a different sampler. ID4, F2 Klein just enhance noisy details in images which is why they get that photoreal effect, but the styles being enhanced matter just as much as the enhancement, enhanced plastic will still look like plastic.
>>109163545that's because you didn't run the right quant, go for that one for example and it'll workhttps://huggingface.co/Winnougan/Krea-2-Base-Turbo-NVFP4-FP8-INT8/blob/main/Krea2_Turbo_convrot_int8mixed.safetensors
>>109163580tf is wrong with you
>>109163564>Chroma to do with the right settingsIt's time to Old Yeller it.
>>109163590what's wrong?
>>109163562Whatever >>109161121 >>109161179Look at the right picture of this images and tell me with serious face that tdrusell didn't train Anima with CivitAI slop and /edg/ highlights in the name of "stability"
>>109163545some int8 convrot quants were converted before comfyui's official implementation, so the layers names don't fit and you'll get incompatibilities, don't go for older int8 convrot and try to find ones that were made after the merge and it'll be fine
>>109163564>Flux.2 VAE with a decent realism tune will always beat Chroma at realismit's already beating it, kekestone in shambleshttps://huggingface.co/fancyfeast/bigasp-3
>>109163514>can quantize any model for 2x speed gains>not Qwen>not Krea 2>not Ideogrambut Chroma
What's the convrot cope? Is it another case of vramlet poorfags coping that "FP4 is no different than FP8 is no different than FP16, why yes I use nunchaku, sage attention, and 4 step turbo lora on top and you can't tell the difference!"I'm seeing people claim it's a free speedup but the actual images look significantly different like >>109161773
>>109163580ejaculation
>>109163588>>109163604I see. How do you quant them without that node then?
>>109163602Would be more convincing if anon posted metadata desu without that tests are worthless
>>109163616everyone forgetting >>109161806
>>109163616>I'm seeing people claim it's a free speedup but the actual images look significantly different likeas they should, fp8 is quite different to bf16, so if convrot is close to fp16, then fp8 will be quite different to convrot, just look at the metrics, convrot is always superior to fp8https://github.com/BobJohnson24/ComfyUI-INT8-Fast/blob/main/Metrics.md
>>109163602Nta and I'm also not an anime fag but>Yes, I will retarded prompt a model without a reference to styles, and expect to get a stylistic resultSDXL would flop compared to Anima when the latter is prompted simply because it's a DiT model, and also because you can prompt for painterly styles fine.
>>109163618seems like you have to use that to convert to convrothttps://github.com/silveroxides/convert_to_quant
>>109163618>>109163611Quanting without node is oretty easy, just ask Claude how the node does it, it's a single installation and command (which is how I did it for Chroma with convrot and then T5 ). If you do it from the node I don't think its compatible with Comfy's actual code anyways.
>>109163635i would've guessed this was a real image
>>109161365What is this bullshit?
>>109163611Lodestone single handedly bred more Stockholm syndrome than most cult leaders manage, he missed his calling as a Pentecostal pastor.
>>109163635slop
>>109163672There is literally only a single chromakek left in these threads shilling it. He refuses to let go and somehow sees the disgusting noise artifacting as 'realistic analog detail'
>>109163660It's alright alright
>>109163666update_troonfyui_and_dependencies.bat
>.batFILTHY SCUM
>Anima, 30 steps, 1024x1024: 9 seconds>Krea2 turbo int8 convrot, 8 steps, 1024x1024: 4 secondsIT'S OVER>b-but 30 steps vs 8using recommended steps for both. anima suggests 30-50. I can double Krea's to 16 and still gen faster.
>>109163635>>109163742Can do these out of the box with Chroma. Lora coping leads to less prompting control.
chromakek, you're the only one coping here. it's time to move on
>>109163768>Can do these out of the box with ChromaNo you wont
>>109163742can juggetnaut do coom?
>>109163672>>109163681You can't convince me you're not just an anti-Chroma cult because you dislike its creator. I'm not even posting raw Chroma outputs anymore.
we are on /h/ levels of image to troll ratio
>>109163790Or perhaps the creator is disliked because he shitbakes the model, throws actual logic aside, and burns through hundreds of thousands of dollars to produce a mediocre underwhelming result?
>>109163828>>109163828
>>109161148this indeed
>>109161299i dunno.. seems like it just blurs and adds splotchy shit just to make it seem 'realistic' but actually it just looks muddy and blurry
>>109161359cute
>>109162619yoooo what did you use to make this lol
>>109163405o snap
