Discussion and Development of Local Image, Video, and Music ModelsPrevious: >>109161068https://rentry.org/ldg-lazy-getting-started-guide>UIComfyUI: https://github.com/comfyanonymous/ComfyUISwarmUI: https://github.com/mcmonkeyprojects/SwarmUISDWebUI: https://rentry.org/ldg-lazy-getting-started-guide#the-stable-diffusion-web-ui-lineageWan2GP: https://github.com/deepbeepmeep/Wan2GP>Checkpoints, LoRAs, & Upscalershttps://huggingface.co/modelshttps://civitai.comhttps://civitaiarchive.com/https://openmodeldb.info>Tuninghttps://github.com/spacepxl/demystifying-sd-finetuninghttps://github.com/ostris/ai-toolkithttps://github.com/Nerogar/OneTrainerhttps://github.com/tdrussell/diffusion-pipehttps://github.com/kohya-ss/sd-scriptshttps://github.com/kohya-ss/musubi-tuner>Krea 2https://huggingface.co/krea/Krea-2-Rawhttps://huggingface.co/krea/Krea-2-Turbo>Zhttps://huggingface.co/Tongyi-MAI/Z-Image>Animahttps://huggingface.co/circlestone-labs/Animahttps://tagexplorer.github.io/https://animadex.net>Qwenhttps://huggingface.co/collections/Qwen/qwen-image>Kleinhttps://huggingface.co/collections/black-forest-labs/flux2>LTX-2.3https://huggingface.co/collections/Lightricks/ltx-23>Wanhttps://github.com/Wan-Video/Wan2.2>Chromahttps://huggingface.co/lodestones/Chroma1-Basehttps://rentry.org/mvu52t46>MiscLocal Model Meta: https://rentry.org/localmodelsmetaShare Metadata: https://catbox.moe | https://litterbox.catbox.moe/Txt2Img Plugin: https://github.com/Acly/krita-ai-diffusionArchive: https://rentry.org/sdg-linkCollage: https://rentry.org/ldgcollage>Neighbors>>>/aco/csdg>>>/b/degen>>>/gif/vdg>>>/d/ddg>>>/e/edg>>>/h/hdg>>>/trash/slop>>>/vt/vtai>>>/u/udg>Local Text>>>/g/lmg>Maintain Thread Qualityhttps://rentry.org/debohttps://rentry.org/animanon
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i dont know what im doing is wan 2.2 the best image to video model
Krea2:>faster than anima>smarter than anima>trains better than anima>better license than animaWhere is the finetune? Kekstone, Astrakike, Laxsaar, Lil 'Russ?
>>109163860>faster than animawho will tell him?
>>109163855This will make anons mald but,LTX2.3 unironically.
>>109163826Except you've never shown any evidence you want it to be baked properly at all. Always find a way to complain about images one way or another, I mean, a Krea-Chroma wf essentially makes Chroma-like images coherent in 98%+ of cases, yet you still dislike it.
>>109163860>Where is the finetune?Why finetuning Krea 2 when you can finetune Klein 9b (better vae, can do edit, smaller...)https://huggingface.co/fancyfeast/bigasp-3
>>109163855Its really good for the 5s it is designed for or referenced videos with SCAIL.For longer videos I'm not sure LTX isn't still better.
>>109163855Wan 2.1 SCAIL but it requires an input motion video too. For pure I2V Wan 2.2 is probably still the best
>>109163860>trains better than animawho will tell him
>>109163874now thats what I call oooo la la
is turdyrussell upset about krea 2? it seems better in every way. maybe if he makes his money back from civitai he can train an anima lora for krea!
>>109163874to be honest I prefer the idea of using a reference video anyway since I'm just generating shortstacks walking and jiggling their butts.
>>109163869That said, Chroma.1 HD probably has a bit of a less slopped look to it. I'll quant that one next, it'll probably look no different than ZIT LoRA coper after a second pass.
>>109163902>is turdyrussell upset about krea 2Don't see why he would be. Anima shines with it since Krea is uncensored and can transfer styles pretty well.
>>109163860Do you think if you repeat this enough times it'll become true?
>mfw Resource news06/29/2026>Krea 2 Base & Turbo — NVFP4 / FP8 / MXFP8 / INT8 / ConvRot INT8 https://huggingface.co/Winnougan/Krea-2-Base-Turbo-NVFP4-FP8-INT8>Local Dream 2.8.0 with Anima supporthttps://github.com/xororz/local-dream/releases/tag/v2.8.0>OSOR: One-Step Diffusion Inpainting for Effect-Aware Object Removalhttps://github.com/Zhouqm-Git/osor>Diffusion Model Attribution via Spectral Coupling of Denoiser Responseshttps://github.com/Pragati-Meshram/SGS>OrthoTryOn: Geometric Orthogonalization for Conflict-Free Unified Fashion Generationhttps://github.com/NJU-PCALab/OrthoTryOn>CSD: Content-aware Speculative Decoding for Efficient Image Generationhttps://github.com/aderfebr/CSD>Dismantling Pathological Shortcuts: A Causal Framework for Faithful LVLM Decodinghttps://github.com/Cc2021start/Fox>Extra CFG++ Samplers for ComfyUIResource - Updatehttps://github.com/xxiiyu/extra_cfgpp>VNCCS 3.0 releasehttps://github.com/AHEKOT/ComfyUI_VNCCS/releases/tag/3.0.0>forgeModelPatch: Add ZImage and Anima to Forgehttps://github.com/croquelois/forgeModelPatch>Flux2-Klein-9B-True-V3https://huggingface.co/wikeeyang/Flux2-Klein-9B-True-V306/28/2026>Clark Air: A Sana 1.6B text-to-image transformer compressed to ternaryhttps://huggingface.co/clark-labs/clark-air-sana-1.6b-1.58bit>ComfyUI Krea 2 NegPiPhttps://github.com/blue-pen5805/ComfyUI-krea2-negpip>FLUX.1-Kontext RefControl LORAshttps://huggingface.co/collections/thedeoxen/flux1-kontext-refcontrol-lorareference-control-input>Un-0: Generating Images with Coupled Oscillatorshttps://unconv.ai/blog/introducing-un-0-generating-images-with-coupled-oscillators>ComfyUIQuantFunchttps://github.com/RealJonathanYip/ComfyUI-QuantFunc06/27/2026>ComfyUI-VAEFrequencyBlendhttps://github.com/thezveroboy/ComfyUI-VAEFrequencyBlend>Ideogram4 & Krea2 Inpainting with LanPaint Supporthttps://github.com/scraed/LanPaint/releases/tag/1.5.5
>>109163933It is faster and better, I tested it myself. It does learn better, I trained a lora myself and civitai trainers agree as well. Which part do you not believe, and why?
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>>109163903scail2 is probably what you want then. brobert made this try the v3 workflow https://github.com/Brobert-in-aus/scail-auto-extend
>mfw Research news06/29/2026>TempAct: Advancing Temporal Plausibility in Autoregressive Video Generation via Planner-Executor RLhttps://arxiv.org/abs/2606.28016>Class-frequency Guided Noise Schedule for Diffusion Modelshttps://arxiv.org/abs/2606.27696>SIFT: Self-Imagination Fine-Tuning for Physically Plausible Motion in Video Diffusion Modelshttps://arxiv.org/abs/2606.27741>Directing the World: Fast Autoregressive Video Generation with Compositional Human-Camera Controlhttps://whydahuzi.github.io/Directing-the-World.github.io>Monocular Avatar Reconstruction via Cascaded Diffusion Priors and UV-Space Differentiable Shadinghttps://luh1124.github.io/MARCUS-Avatar-Projectpage>Parallel Rollout Approximation for Pixel-Space Autoregressive Image Generationhttps://arxiv.org/abs/2606.27978>MASS: Motion-Aligned Selective Scan for Refinement in Flow-Based Video Frame Interpolationhttps://arxiv.org/abs/2606.27718>Exposure Bias Can Alleviate Itself via Directional and Frequency Rectification in Flow Matchinghttps://arxiv.org/abs/2606.28226>Qwen-Image-2.0-RL Technical Reporthttps://arxiv.org/abs/2606.27608>PixelU: A U-Shaped Transformer for Efficient End-to-End Pixel Diffusionhttps://arxiv.org/abs/2606.27760>BiDeMem: Bidirectional Degradation Memory for Explainable Image Restorationhttps://arxiv.org/abs/2606.28112>TruEye: Fine-Grained Detection of AI-Generated Human Subjects in Imageshttps://arxiv.org/abs/2606.27505>Understanding How MLLMs Describe Artworks Using Token Activation Mapshttps://nicolafan.github.io/tamart>AI-Generated Image Recognition via Fusion of CNNs and Vision Transformershttps://arxiv.org/abs/2606.27637
>mfw API news>Seedance 2.0 Mini and 4K is now available in ComfyUIhttps://blog.comfy.org/p/seedance-20-mini-and-4k-is-now-available>ByteDance launches Seed Audio 1.0 Unified AI Audio Generation for Speech, Music and Ambient Sound Creationhttps://fal.ai/models/bytedance/seed-audio-1.0>Midjourney goes from generating cat images to full-body ultrasound scanshttps://www.theverge.com/ai-artificial-intelligence/952011/midjourney-medical-ai-ultrasound-scan>Alibaba releases HappyHorse 1.1 Available on Alibaba Cloudhttps://www.alibabacloud.com/blog/happyhorse-gets-stronger-motion-expressiveness-higher-generation-consistency-and-enhanced-visual-quality_603293>ByteDance's New AI Video Model Can Make 30-Second Clips From a Single Prompthttps://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/bytedance-introduces-new-seedance-2-5-video-model/>Luma Introduces Ray3.2 Model & API: Complete Creative Control for Video Generationhttps://lumalabs.ai/news>The Layout Bet — Reve 2.0https://blog.reve.com/posts/the-layout-bet>Introducing Gemini Omni — Google’s multimodal video creation/editing modelhttps://blog.google/innovation-and-ai/models-and-research/gemini-models/gemini-omni/>Nano Banana 2 and Nano Banana Pro are generally available via Gemini Enterprise Agent Platformhttps://cloud.google.com/blog/products/ai-machine-learning/nano-banana-2-and-nano-banana-pro-are-generally-available>Grok Imagine 1.5 Previewhttps://x.ai/news/grok-imagine-1-5>Seedance 2.0 in Runway APIhttps://docs.dev.runwayml.com/api-details/api_changelog/
>>109163860>acceptable use policy>filtercuck clause>better license than anima
>>109163936>It is fasterMaybe if you compare Krea Turbo and Anima Base, not turbo to turbo kek. Krea still doesn't have danbooru artists.
>>109163860too big, no one's gonna bother
>>109163931awesome
>mfw Reniggersource news 06/29/2027 >Krap 2 Base & Turbo — NVFP4 / FP8 / MXFP8 / INT8 / ConvRot INT8 https://huggingface.co/Winnougan/Krea-2-Base-Turbo-NVFP4-FP8-INT8 >Local Cumrag 2.8.0 with Anima support https://github.com/xororz/local-dream/releases/tag/v2.8.0 >OSOREDIC: One-Step Diffusion Inpainting for Effect-Aware Object Removal Digg Nutt https://github.com/Zhouqm-Git/osor >Diffusion Model Attribution via Spacker kid Coupling of Denoiser Responses https://github.com/Pragati-Meshram/SGS >OrthoCumTryOn: Niggerlips Orthogonalization for Conflict-Free Unified Fashion Generation https://github.com/NJU-PCALab/OrthoTryOn >CumSD: Content-aware Speculative Decoding for Nigbutt Image Generation https://github.com/aderfebr/CSD >Cooming on ur mom Pathological Shortcuts: A Cack Framework for Faithful LVLM Decoding https://github.com/Cc2021start/Fox >Gafer CFGPUMS WAMplers for ComfyUIResource - Update https://github.com/xxiiyu/extra_cfgpp >KIDPO 3.1 fail https://github.com/AHEKOT/ComfyUI_VNCCS/releases/tag/3.0.0 >fartorgeModelPatch: Add Zigma and Anima to Forge https://github.com/croquelois/forgeModelPatch >FluxFails-Klein-cumB-True-V3 https://huggingface.co/wikeeyang/Flux2-Klein-9B-True-V3 06/28/2029 >Fark Air: A Sana 1.6B nigbo fuccs sheep transformer compressed to ternary https://huggingface.co/clark-labs/clark-air-sana-1.6b-1.58bit >CummerUI Krea 2 NiggaLIP https://github.com/blue-pen5805/ComfyUI-krea2-negpip >FLUX.3-Tranny RefControl LORAs https://huggingface.co/collections/thedeoxen/flux1-kontext-refcontrol-lorareference-control-input >Urine-0: Generating Images with Coupled Oscillators https://unconv.ai/blog/introducing-un-0-generating-images-with-coupled-oscillators >ComfyUIQaugzig https://github.com/RealJonathanYip/ComfyNiggboOO
>>109163954Krea Turbo is still better than anima base so it doesn't matter. A model that is faster and better at the same resolution yet still bigger and smarter. It's a direct upgrade in every way.
>mfw Research news 06/29/2026 >TempAct: Advancing Temporal Plausibility in Autoregressive Video Generation via Planner-Executor RL https://arxiv.org/abs/2606.28016 >Class-frequency Guided Noise Schedule for Diffusion Models https://arxiv.org/abs/2606.27696 >SIFT: Self-Imagination Fine-Tuning for Physically Plausible Motion in Video Diffusion Models https://arxiv.org/abs/2606.27741 >Directing the World: Fast Autoregressive Video Generation with Compositional Human-Camera Control https://whydahuzi.github.io/Directing-the-World.github.io >Monocular Avatar Reconstruction via Cascaded Diffusion Priors and UV-Space Differentiable Shading https://luh1124.github.io/MARCUS-Avatar-Projectpage >Parallel Rollout Approximation for Pixel-Space Autoregressive Image Generation https://arxiv.org/abs/2606.27978 >MASS: Motion-Aligned Selective Scan for Refinement in Flow-Based Video Frame Interpolation https://arxiv.org/abs/2606.27718 >Exposure Bias Can Alleviate Itself via Directional and Frequency Rectification in Flow Matching https://arxiv.org/abs/2606.28226 >Qwen-Image-2.0-RL Technical Report https://arxiv.org/abs/2606.27608 >PixelU: A U-Shaped Transformer for Efficient End-to-End Pixel Diffusion https://arxiv.org/abs/2606.27760 >BiDeMem: Bidirectional Degradation Memory for Explainable Image Restoration https://arxiv.org/abs/2606.28112 >TruEye: Fine-Grained Detection of AI-Generated Human Subjects in Images https://arxiv.org/abs/2606.27505 >Understanding How MLLMs Describe Artworks Using Token Activation Maps https://nicolafan.github.io/tamart >AI-Generated Image Recognition via Fusion of CNNs and Vision Transformers https://arxiv.org/abs/2606.27637
>>109163909Hmm, I'm wondering if I should grab Radiance instead because that's still getting updateshttps://huggingface.co/lodestones/Chroma1-RadianceIt is now undergoing 1024p training
>>109163976>guys did you see??? a 12b model is better than a 2b model, WOOWW!!color me shocked
>>109163976>erm... actually uh... that doesnt matter!! lol lilbro just move on to your next troll
>>109163994I don't have 'shocked' in my crayola box nor in my copic marker collection. Any other colors you would like?
@109164003is nigbo
>>109164003just take the L you unfunny bozo
>>109164006rent-free>>109164010my girlfriend laughed. maybe you're the unfunny one. ever considered that?
>>109164026>my girlfriendtroons don't count you know that right?
>>109164012the backrooms glory holechat, should I?
did dis nigga rlly compare a turbo model to a base model thinking it was a fair comparison? not knowing the difference? KEKEKEKE
6 minute gens baby
>>109164042>the difference is umm... that umm... the turbo is bad because... WELL IT JUST IS OKAY!the turbo model's quality is still better than last-gen's base in all-aspects. you have no argument and are coping. it's like saying sd1.5 base is better than anima turbo.
>>109164121here they are smooching
>>109164182They aren't like that
>>109164182I'm a hardcore yuri fag and I don't ship Chie and Yukiko, they are just good friends
>>109164186it's a friendly smooch not a lesbian one
>>109164193agreed.
>>109164129I know it's upsetting that a nigger speaking zoomer knows more about this than you but try to keep thr seething and coping to a minimum please.
>no argumentabsolute cope. anima is on its way out thanks to Krea. it's better in all aspects. BUT that's a good thing, i'm happy local is evolving and hope russell can level up for round 2!
>>109164216>>no argumentMeant for >>109163976
i like that anon said "please stop seething" and the other anon started seething even harder
which model was used to create this? the ass texture looks very realistic
>>109164242thats real
>>109163860>trains better than anima...does it?
Why are people hating on krea2? Explain to me what the problem is, because after using it for the past day or so it is clearly superior to klein9b.Pros:no body horrorDoes not seem to have some built in safety when using nsfw lora'ssuperior quality to Zit and animasuperior prompt adherenceThis works https://huggingface.co/huihui-ai/Huihui-Qwen3-VL-4B-Instruct-abliteratedis plenty fast using turbo modelCons:I don't know yet, there is nothing I don't like about this model.I can see this replacing practically everything because it learns so well with lora's
>>109164290Not hating on it. I'm just correcting anons stupidity.
>>109164290>Cons:>I don't know yet, there is nothing I don't like about this model.how's Krea 2's paycheck?
>>109164290>clearly superior to klein9bKlein is an edit model. Krea2 is not. Klein can do things Krea2 cannot, so how is it superior?
>>109164290its just the indiagram defense force and zit-faced chinks shitting on krea 2.
>>109164290>Cons: >I don't know yet, there is nothing I don't like about this model. Ah to be young again I remember my first big model release too
>>109164290i'm both impressed and yet extremely unimpressed by a lot of the krea2 gens that people post here. either you guys aren't doing that model any favors and are extremely boring or the model itself just makes boring images
>>109164290>Why are people hating on krea2?- it has a safety filter, Klein doesn't (do you even realize that BFL, the safety freak company, aren't retarded enough to add built in filters to their models??)- it uses a retarded VAE, you'll never get convincing realism with this shit- Krea 2's main appeal is its strength transfer adapter, and those fags won't give it to us
>>109164313you can say that about any model. any model can produce the most boring result imagined if prompted
>>109164290- Outdated VAE- NSFW knowledge is lacking compared to chroma, bigasp or anima- A bit sloppy in terms of faces and sometimes textures- Removing filter makes the prompt adherence worse
>>109164290>and animaPeople keep bringing up Anima in the Krea discussion as if it can do what Anima can do. Krea doesn't have danbooru, therefore, it's inferior. It's that simple.
>>109164290>Does not seem to have some built in safety when using nsfw lora's Why did you try to phrase this like it doesn't have a built in safety feature lol
>in order for people to shit on krea 2 they need to deliberately lie about itthis is a good sign
>>109164290it's too big, no chance of finetunes or development, after novelty wears of it'll be forgotten like all bloatmodels before it
>>109164323Exactly. I use them for entirely different reasons. It's probably just trolls desu.
>>109164297>>109164300>>109164307Not an argument>>109164301But its bad, it changes the appearances too much and can sometimes grow another leg or deform people just because you prompted for a pose it does not like. So I don't care about it, and desu there is not much use for edit models on consumer machines, I can't think of anything more boring desu.
>>109164290Krea 2 is a solid model, but I think it's too big for what it is, ZiT makes better images while being two times lighter
>>109164340>But its bad, it changes the appearances too much >and desu there is not much use for edit models on consumer machines, I can't think of anything more boring desu.I was about to respond to you seriously. Good thing I read the rest of the post to determine you are indeed retarded. Good day.
>>109164290the entire point was reference inputs for style transferthat is the flagship feature of KreaI don't care about another t2igens are extremely similaryeah yeah I can train it, whatever. but what the fuck is the point in this model that does nothing new or innovativeyou dickheads had this same blind loyalty to ZiT and that's still dogshitwhat makes a model useful isn't "generates asian cosplayers" or "knows Miku" though the latter is important, it's whether or not it can be strongly steered/controlled/etc."oh but krea can put miku in a cup on a piece of cloth and" yeah, I get that but I can't provide ref inputswe are actively regressing in terms of features.their model supports it (seemingly incidentally through Qwen Image VAE but also intentionally through the txtfusion layers?) but they intentionally nerfed the releaseraw t2i just isn't enough any more, innovation is required
>>109164358this anon said it all, holy truth nuke
>>109164340I wasn't trying to state an argument i was simply correcting anon who claimed "hatred on Krea" when in fact I was just correcting anon who claimed comparing turbo and base models is fair.
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>>109164358>gens are extremely similarI'm really disappointed about that too, like when looking at Krea 2's demo on youtube, I was expecting a lot of variety in seeds when prompting for simple shit, and in the end it's as rigid as your DiT slop model
>>109164323idk, every outfit prompt for illustrious i've tried works quite well on krea too. you can cope about danbooru and not knowing specific sex poses and you're right, but with the realism engine lora i can get some decent sex stuff which just shows that a finetune on krea would be way better than anima's shitty cosmos base. i don't think people shilling krea are trying to say that anima knows less but rather that krea has a more promising future
>hearing flies buzzing again in my /ldg/>vramlets making a fuzz because some new quant has finally let them touch real adult modelsVRAMLETS, DON'T GET COCKY.THIS NEW CONTEXT QUANT CHANGES NOTHING.WE STILL HATE YOU.WE STILL ONLY HELP OUT OF OBLIGATION SO YOU'LL STOP FLOODING THE THREAD WITH YOUR VRAMLET SOB STORIES.HELPING YOU WAS ALWAYS A CHORE, AND WE STILL DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO DODGE OR IGNORE YOUR POSTS.
>>109164385those with chad cards are waiting for NVFP4 desu
>>109164385how does that feel to have bought a 3000 dollars card just so that vramlets end up with double the speed with convrot?
>>109164382well its a very short prompt that, i don't think you understand what the turbo model is suppose to achieve. You could change anything about the image with a longer prompt...
>>109164385I wish the average /ldg/ poster had 12gb of vram kek. Some of the posts about Krea's speed here would make you think it's a 48b model
>>109164358let's not even get into the garbage writeupoh look, so much information, so much textdid you fuckin read it?> To mitigate this, we designed a variant of DPO, which we call STPO,No details whatsoever about STPO, just "we did it"> Style reference system> To address these challenges, we devised a novel self-supervised technique for training the style-reference module, followed by a preference-optimization step to further align the outputs.No more details, just "we did it"yeah apparently this writeup is worthless tooLook, I love OSS and I appreciate what the Krea devs have done but fuuuuuuck they fumbled this release big time.Hope OSS devs can make it useful for something because I do not see the point in it.
>>109164385i have 16gb so i am not in this image
>>109164332Can you link to which posts are lies so I know?
>>109164385Why did you use a GPT image tho?
>>109164400>well its a very short prompt thatthat was the point, on their API they used short prompts and they got really varied imageshttps://youtu.be/MXaJnQTUXTQ?t=22
>>109164402I have 12 but I use Raw and high resolutions because I'm not a jeet so gens still take like 7 minutes. I don't complain about it thoever.
>>109164358>I get that but I can't provide ref inputs>we are actively regressing in terms of features.you are arguing in the context of api. we ALL know api models are superior to local and destroy outdated localkek copeware like flux. but local models have none of these features and never did and never will. so out of the available options, krea destroys the local competition.
>>109164321that's what i'm sayin', and why i didn't just outright say the model is bad. like from what i see in these threads specifically, the prompt adherence and the smaller details it can produce are genuinely good, but all the images looked the fucking same like >>109164358 just pointed out. subject centered with random stuff happening in the background, just boring overall, a lot of them sloppy.and i ain't saiyan it's the models fault, just that my view is skewed
>>109164420>out of the available options, krea destroys the local competition.not really, can't do edit like klein, can't do realism like ZiT, can't do anime as well as anima... it doesn't dominate anywhere, I'm not seeing a single thing where I could say "yep, for this, Krea 2 destroys the other local models"
>>109164416On the raw model maybe but the turbo model will always goto the most likely result just like an llm works when setup to not be too creative and that speeds up the generation. But like I said you can change the image any way you like if you're not lazy and provide the correct prompt.
>>109164438this. yes thanks someone can read.this intermittent persistent bot-like contrarian is drowning out actual sense like this.it doesn't innovate for local, simple. like who the fuck was this for"oh it has great prompt comprehension" truthfully, yeah it does. the adherence is good. not "I'd use this over another model" good.
>mid 2026>ctrl f>search "illustrious">1 matchyeah, I know who is still the true winner.
>>109164438Non anime illustrations desu. SO LONG AS you don't hit one of the slop tokens on accident.
>>109164459now check for SD1.5
>>109164438krea can do anima better than cosmos can, and can learn anime better than anima did.
>>109164471Wake me up when that happensUntil then it's anima
danbooru fags be like>noooo I barely know english I just want to use tag please dont make me learn english!
>>109164383A full danbooru fine tune on any of these larger, and more up to date models would be better than any other anime model we've ever had. The question is, will we get it? I'm 85% sure we never will due to cost and a guarantee of little profit.
Computer, calculate how much it would cost to train Krea on danbooru >>109164481It's about the art styles
convrot provides no speedup on my system, it and int8 are actually a bit slower than fp8 on my 3070I don't even know where to start troubleshooting but comfy is up to date
>>109164503>I don't even know where to start troubleshootingstart by saving up enough money for a modern card
>>109164499>It's about the art stylesyou don't need poobooru for that.>@artist_name>noooo we need all heckin' nippon porn tags like paizuri I do not know what a boobjob is!
>>109164471exactly, and one nsfw lora and it just works, no body horror. These people are purely gas lighting and its mildly irritating, to claim ZIT does realism better is such a joke, do they think we've never used ZIT before? As for anima, its pretty cool but its not very good at understand complex natural English prompts. I do not like to use too many tags, i just want a model that understands what I'm telling it to do with out needing to mess around for 1 hour trying for an exact pose.
>>109164481this, i really could not give a shit about shitty danbooru tags, they are too limiting and too strong also like dur holy shit.
>>109164480It's already happeninghttps://civitai.red/models/2736957/soroni-style-krea2?modelVersionId=3077590>Thanks to the powerful performance of Krea2, the texture of the artwork and the adherence to the text have been greatly improved! Goodbye, all Anima!China is waking up to Krea, trainers agree that it's better at learning styles than anima. Again this isn't a diss at anima, it's a great model, but Krea is simply a level-up now and it's time we move towards a brighter future.
>>109164468>2 matchesI KNVVEL
>blah blah blah X better than Ytoo big, DOA, won't take off, fade into obscurity after novelty wears off, etc etc, repeatbloatmodels will NEVER become popular>inb4 during and after muh VRAMletsit's the truth, deal with it
>>109164516This might be hard to believe but you do need danbooru to prompt for artist that are on danbooru
>>109164536>nooooo but serious lora makers love animaultra based
>>109164536Where does it say it's a full sized finetune on danbooru
>>109164544you literally don't and you're a retard if you think that you retarded weaboo>@artist_name>@artist_name>@artist_name>@artist_name>@artist_name
>>109164529>danbooru tags, they are too limitingand what i mean by this is how when you prompt for a nsfw sex position and you are limited to one pose only, legs exactly the same, head in the same place its limited to what those tags are trained on. But a model uses natural language you get to describe the positing to exact specification as you want it not how it was trained.
uninspired 1girl for your passive boring pleasure
>>109164557I wonder why no anime modelbakers have used this mysterious not-danbooru-but-has-all-danbooru website or dataset. Can you link it?
>>109164583>can't comprehend basic ideas>can barely form a coherent sentence or thoughtI see why you need nigbooru tags
>>109164597To confirm; you're saying a model not trained on danbooru knows all the artists from danbooru? If so explain how that works and provide some examples.
>>109164375So anon are you just a really gay dude
natural language is a false god
>>109164604How on earth are you possibly this retarded? Have you never trained anything before?
>>109164623Im not the only claiming a model not trained on danbooru can do artists from danbooru. Kek
>>109164536Somebody baked an Anime character in Krea and it came out too good too, considering Krea2 doesn't have the danbooru repertoire, it managed to capture the facial features and coloring well.
>>109164635>considering Krea2 doesn't have the danbooru repertoirenonono anon it does!!! see >>109164516
>109164634Moron
>>109164635For not having Ufotable's database, they sure managed to nail that ufotable type shading where it covers half the face.
>krea is a better model than anima in terms of potentialNo shit sherlock it's a 12b parameter model trained on billions of images with an extremely broad knowledge base.The question is, will anybody finetune it on all of danbooru (and maybe more). I'm guessing no.1. Would be multiple $100k to do it properly, judging by what past finetunes have cost2. The license allows you to use the model commercially (if under 1 million revenue), but doesn't allow you to attach your own non-commercial terms to monetize it via sublicensing.TLDR: giga fucking expensive to train, and unless you have your own image generation service and are also under 1 million revenue, there's no feasible way to make your money back
>>109164648I think you meant to reply to >>109164557 as he believes krea can do danbooru artists styles without being trained on the site
>>109164635it's really fun using just the loras right now on civitai. if you combine the 'realism engine' one with negpip (photo:-1) you can get a lot of anima nsfw stuff though it can be a bit hard to wrangle
>>109164657
>>109164660>>109164634You moved the goal post so far up your ass you can keep it there. Not the point was never the point.
>>109164608yes how could you tell
I'm using this node to get the image size and prompt to upscale it, but how can I get the loras from it so it automatically applies them to the upscale and I don't have to manually set them for every image?
>>109164290It is fuzzy. Opposite of sharp. Look at hair.
So we went from>ITS NOT EVEN GOODto>ITS NOT BETTER THAN ANIMA AT ANIME THOUGHto>ok its pretty good... but will anybody train it???
what is the deal with some making a model a part of their personality? they act like saying anything about their favorite model is like saying something about them.
>>109164375nice, what model/loras?
>>109164700Yeah I agree. Ideogram niggas are insane.
>>109164672>Not the point was never the point.Yes it was see >>109164499>It's about the art styles
>>109164604>an illustration in dairi155 style of the disney frozen princess elsa.are you mentally challenged or something? That prompt works btw in krea2 turbo, i just picked a random artist name.
>>109164242>Provocative photograph of two women stand infront of a low wall wearing revealing soccer-themed outfits stand side-by-side>On the left an African woman with dark curly hair, wearing a rolled up yellow jersey with 'SOUTH AFRICA 10' in green, green thong, and yellow fishnet thigh-high stockings with suspenders. She is standing with her back to the camera, looking at the other woman, her very large buttocks prominently displayed.>On the right A young Asian woman with straight black hair, wearing a black rolled up jersey with 'CANADA 19' in white, black thong, and black fishnet thigh-high stockings with suspenders. She is standing with her back to the camera, looking at the other woman, her buttocks prominently displayed.>Background is a large stadium with tiered seating filled with spectators, green soccer field visible below, overhead curved digital screen displaying 'ShowFeet Stadium' with logos and a live game feed. bright stadium floodlights, even illumination
>>109164691so who's gonna train, any volunteers
>>109164703just kea2 with https://github.com/nova452/ComfyUI-Conditioning-Rebalance (1.0,1.0,1.0,1.0,1.0,1.0,1.0,2.5,5.0,1.1,4.0,1.0)
hypothetically you can avoid danbooru directly by crawling all of pixiv and twitter and whatelse and matching them to the danbooru tag if artist is found there (assuming the user wishes to be able to look things up at danbooru to find the tag name), but then they may as well just use danbooru and >>109164516 is retarded
>>109164691All of these phases were from tdrusell himself. We are witnessing the stages of grief in real time as he realizes that Anima is obsolete.
>109164708tags. retard.
>>109164715ZiT didn't like high res 9:16
>>109164715shouldnt canada be a pajeeta?
>>109164710I like that you attached the gen. And being able to do a handful of artist from danbooru because their art is hosted on another website commonly crawled for image models is not the same as being trained on danbooru.
>>109164687 --> >>109164715
>109164722missed the point again. you're arguing in bad faith or are just completely retarded.
>>109164725How does it feel being so raped I wouldn't know
>muh X vs Yi don't give a shit I just want a model that someone will actually a realistic nsfw finetune with so I'm finally free of XLNIGGER
>>109164608if you generate images, there's a 99% chance that you're gay or realizing that you're gay. check the research post for more info
>>109164383>realism enginewhat is that by the way, since archive search is fucked atm
>>109164722He thinks it's only about tags and not about the actual content of the images. You can just ignore the troll.
>>109164728
>>109164837>show feet stadium>only see booty cheeks
>>109164848I was just trying to copy >>109164242
>>109164773it's just a civitai nsfw lora https://civitai.red/models/2688234/realism-engine-ideogram-4-krea-2
>>109163907my chairussy!
now that the dust has settled
>>109164290its just vramlets seething because they need 24-32gb of vram to train a decent lora for it.
south krea > north krea
>>109165014I-I-I can see her... TAIL
>>109164609the biggest flaw of natural language is that local is terrible and not a single good nsfw captioner exists. this is why everyone keeps throwing danbooru cope around: they are incapable of moving beyond what is handed to them. same goes for edit models (not a single nsfw edit finetune btw)you could be given the perfect set of weights to train and yet nothing good would ever emerge because the entire foundation required to train such a model competently is missing from the localspace, and local can only grift off what is handed to them.
>not a single good nsfw captioner existsyeah xister! you tell em!
So I'm new to this and set up ComfyUI. I am impressed by the Qwen-Image-Edit, feels very similar, albeit not as powerful, as when I use ChatGPT Image 2. With the lightning 4 step it makes some damn good edits. I tried the SDXL Juggernaut and that thing ran in like a couple seconds but the quality is just not very good. What do you guys suggest for image editing? Is Qwen really still the best for photorealistic and anatomy? I'm sadly on 16GB VRAM, so keep that in mind. I have a couple of days to burn and would love to get into the subject, but the sheer amount of models on HF is just crazy. I haven't gotten into LoRAs yet, but I just want to nail my go to model for editing and merging with good prompt adherence and the occasional nsfw.
>>109163939does it do nsfw?
https://civitai.red/models/2728644/krea-2-mystic-xxxupdatedits pretty good
>>109165108Klein
>>109165014UH OH
>>109164999VRAMlet here, and I don't mind renting a GPU if a model is objectively better at capturing the style, character, or concept of my LoRA without f*rgetting.
>>109164565>But a model uses natural language you get to describe the positing to exact specification as you want it not how it was trained.danbooru tags + json bbox will fix this
>>109165177Fuck off
>>109165146I tried it, but the results I got with it compared to Qwen out of the box just didn't impress me at all. Pic related was Klein and it took a little longer to gen than Qwen.
gooooodbye anima~hellooooooo krea~
Genners Party of Krea
>>109165129yeah it's pretty good, I was impressed with how fast krea2 got cracked and the quality it produces. The only big problem is that the image quality sucks compared to Ideogram, and imho ZIT has better photo quality out of the box than Krea2 as well. I have like 10 models I use and compare shit with, I don't get why people become so political about *the best* model, when in reality each of them have their pros and cons
>>109165066I use Qwen3-4B-abliterated-q6_k_m and it's decent, helps me when I try to train characters.
t. most tourist taste in anime
>>109165188krea don't need that though.
>>109165243keke
>>109165205when you realize that we are all larpers and the great majority of /ldg/ are vramlets larping.
>>109165196Klein is only good for editing. If you use for genning images, you'll get mostly body horror.
>>109165263Kim Gen Un will have your head for this!
>want to train a krea lora>realize there ARE not good captioners for localwhat do i do, sub to gemini?
>>109165229Tourist general, tourist beach resort general
>>109165295Open up notepad.exe and do it the hard way
>>109165309Captioning by yourself without any help is a good mental exercise, I have improved my ear a lot for Ace Step loras.
Krea2 knows what a P90 is and what various crossbows are and can put them in the same image. Zit couldn't even do one of these.
>>109163828Requesting this sketch for an AI generated image. Genre: 2D illustration, could be Western or Anime style, if Anime, please no anime coloring or cel shading or painterly. A woman taking a bath watching herself in the mirror. In the mirror is a reflection of her black silhouette with the word "sexo" written all over her body.
>>109165341>sam got into giga-daniel's special tok'ra protein powder again
>>109165355But that's a beautiful sketch anon
>>109165341great. lora of her or just prompt?
>>109165341zitcopers are actually delusional. same with chromakeks.
>>109165359Why are your gens so melty?
what model can train and keep character consistency? pls nothing that'll take 20 hours to train. I have some OC characters I commissioned years ago, kinda curious if I could practice training but not sure what's best to use
>>109165384lora
>>109165390he's poor and thinks running a 720p gen through a '10x upscaler' looks good
Krea never looks like a photo. Same with ideogram.I guess krea looks cinematic or something?
>>109164676It's hot if you're like a twink doing it or like some really chubby neet type. If you're a normie, ew cringe.
>>109165389these are people you have created in your mind that anon has tricked you into believing as reality
>>109164715is this what jeets find sexually arousing?
>>109165379Thanks
But you see, it's not me, it's (you)In your head, in your head, they are fightin'With their lies and their posts and their posts and their gensIn your head, in your head, they are trollin'
>>109165393>pls nothing that'll take 20 hours to train.Impossible to know this without knowing what card you're using.
>>109164715Ideogram once again the best but swept under the rug by the psyop campaign of Krea 2. In addition to the superior detail and more realistic imagery, it follows the prompt most accurately too. Only Krea and Ideogram added suspenders properly, but only Ideogram understood to make the yellow suspender color match the stockings, not the thong. It also does proportions the best. Krea's are oddly elongated and amazonian.It really is true that the only people who hate [big_model_here] are poorfag vramlets who can't run it.
>>109165483uh I think it's a 40xx series, so 12-16GB I guess. Oh and I guess for lurkers, it finally clicked why we have these generals. I can't wait to follow examples like >>109164715 now that I have my rig set up and tested. We're here to share and explore and talk about tech!
>>109165504>It also does proportions the best.No it makes them obese and that shit can fuck off because every other model does that and i hate obese women.
>mfw you've downloaded 200GB of i2i models to A/B testi'm in configuration hell and my OCD won't stop meon topic though, what's a good prompt you've used and what model for making memes you have in your head come to life?
>>109165129Does not seem to know much compared with snofs lora, but we need dedicated lora's and not AIO lora's desu.
>>109165543very sloppywhy do you post this? what's your motivation debo?
How do i prompt better for krea2? Looks like 2010s "what if video game character was real"when I do by tags or just describing them
>>109165558come on guys, I'm on 4keks and you're all supposed to be mastermind evil geniuses who gen your own memes on the fly to raise your popularity on the site, how else are you farming your karma and get up in the morning to solve logical puzzles before you're allowed to share your thoughts? We're operating at 8bit here, folks. Even the MSPaint days were superior.
>>109165599your OCD is preventing us from helping you. sorry.
>>109165616I'm just realizing the general moves slow, you'd think everyone here genning their lives out has enough time between i2v to have a chat. I was hoping to bring discussion about memes.
>>109165599holy reddit cringe. is this a gpt post?
>>109165624it's ironic, anon. Once you've stayed here for over 20 years, you've gone full schizo. I can count more captcha changes i've seen over the years than your years of age
>>109165543When i scroll through /ldg/ on my phone i can still instantly identify you by your gens without looking at filenames or anything because they are exceptionally bad
>>109165640like this guy, who probably is same anon as the post he refers to, like what even is this general. There's barely anyone genning except the one guy trying to raise his space profile among>>109165341at least this was a quality post, major
most gens are not worth posting. simple as ya sperg.
>>109165624>to raise your popularity on the siteworse.
>>109165341sex (with dr fraiser)
spongeborb
>>109165727I never do like krea or ideogram.It's kind of sad, they attract the intellectually stunted.
>>109165656what
>>109165736>I never do like krea or ideogram.ESL>It's kind of sad, they attract the intellectually stunted.My EQ is high.
The retarded jeet thinks he knows English.
krea is garbage, nvidia is garbage, ideogram is garbage.They're shilling to prop up the vibes on the ai. tired of their trash.
>>109165682They're right fuck off deboYou wanted to play this game so enjoy the price
We are of knowing more English than you, racists.
Looks like someone is off their meds again.
Ahh I think I see whats happening - the reason why all these anti-local shills are crying is because Local is getting better than the web models and the web models being the trillion dollar grift machine that it is can't handle people unsubbing from their shitty Sub/API saas bullshit so they come here and cope
>>109165749You need more datacenters.
>tfw I finally have access to the early access thing on civitai>but I'm not a loser with no soul so I'm not gonna use itfeels gud...
>>109165783good guy.
>>109165558>>109165599Convince me to spoonfeed you. >implying t2i models are not i2i and vice versa
>>109165440kek at the gatekeep; not a normie by any stretch of the imagination though
>>109165769This is why ideogram was buried btw. It's the only local model that can outcompete API models thanks to its creative prompting system. It was built for local tooling and creative extensions while web models were built for a single text prompt. Every other model is objectively worse than API alternatives, Krea doesn't hold a candle to Nano Banana/GPT
hag alert
>>109165835You're both free to like garbage.neither one looks nice. It's unpleasant. Hard to say exactly why, I think it's the synthetic datasets they were trained on.
>>109165894>>109165835Sam Altman here. We will beat the localkeks! Their models are UNSAFE.
>>109165906>not an artistx opinion INVALID
>>109165908I'm a VISIONARY.
>>109165919I like how melted it looks. Really gives that authentic hand-generated feel.
>>109165923what exactly does "melted" mean?
>>109165932pedo dog whistle
>>109165932Imagine putting an oil painting in the oven for 15 minutes over easy and then taking it out of the oven while shaking with excitement. That's the point of the mask. That's what the mask means.
>>109165783early access isn't bad. it's just when people make it cost fucking 5k-10k buzz is when it starts becoming bullshit, especially for a lora that gets updated multiple times.
>>109165938>>109165948so you're saying you're full of shit, got it
Anyone here do 3D asset generation? Messing around with Hunyuan 3D, works okay but it's very voxelly, are they all like that? I'm assuming it wants an image with no background, but it sometimes gives things a big flat base. Also looking to see how I can get textures too, some of the examples show it but I'm a retard and need workflows. 5080 16gb
>>109165974We all must poop, anon; thus we are all full of shit.
Krea 2 is so good at placing items and objects and backgrounds, but it is so shit making people.what gives?
>>109166028people are too dangerous for local, please enjoy prompting funko-pop squidwards and ninja turtles in various sunglasses instead.
>>109165177eve online returns
>>109166044sounds very fun and safe
>>109166044>you can't have actor prompt adherence like emotions but here are all the celebrities you can genIt just makes no sense
>>109165769local was always overall better, since you can train loras for whatever you want, no matter how niche it is, and of course also because of NSFW
>local was always better>because you have to cope with lorasKEEEEEEEEEK
>>109166149Yeah that's weird, ZiT has been out for over half a year and it does emotions well and also does a lot of celebrities, haven't seen any backlash from the 'establishment' media, weird that this would be part of their filtering.And it's all there in the model, using the https://civitai.red/models/2728234/krea2filterbypass you get emotions back, oh and everything else
meanwhile on cloud you have to cope with this
>>109166195I wish Ideogram gave me a cute apology instead of cucking me and wasting my GPU cycles on a blank image
meanwhile localkeks get the same thing except they have to wait 90 seconds for ideogram to finish before they're told no!
Day 1 of attempting to turn thick black girls into white pawgs, I consider this one a failure.I will try again tomorrow with this https://github.com/Brobert-in-aus/scail-auto-extend/blob/main/SCAIL%20Auto%20Extend%20V3.json
>>109166195translate your request to another language. all the safety guards are in english
>>109166217that"s a midget
>>109166234yes the black woman is 4'7"
>>109166217Uh oh dey dems sum niggly wigglies shiiiet
https://civitai.red/models/2732306/krea2-aio-nsfw-lora?modelVersionId=3071904This one does anal reliably all the other nsfw lora's probably overly tag 'anus' in their data sets and of coarse the damn things draw an anus no matter what... Anyway just thought i'd help frustrated anons out. >>109166193>using the https://civitai.red/models/2728234/krea2filterbypassI found those here incase civitai is a dick.https://huggingface.co/Kutches/Kr3a/tree/mainThere also seems to be a weight slider here also that I've not tried yet that was not up on civitai probably some fat roasty malding again...
>>109166193Not talking about the filter.I think that's because the qwen vae is bad, but I am a promplet that just speculates.I had chatgpt make me a cheat-sheet a while ago because the good old "prompt what you want to see" applies to a lot of models, but usually the models themselves understand the name and intend of the emotion, whereas in krea2 all emotions seem to be subdued or not understood UNLESS you directly specify the face cues and even then it sometimes just refuses no matter if it is a positive or negative emotion.It seems worse with realistic images and better with stylized or anime ones.Idk, maybe I'm just doing it wrong because of sampler or cfg or something or confusing it with too many or too little keywords.
>>109166277>I think that's because the qwen vae is bad, but I am a promplet that just speculates.It has nothing to do with the VAE
>>109166270genuinely what does this 'filter bypass' lora do? i've just been using the realism engine lora and have yet to get any kind single ideogram-tier filter message and it gens nudity fine. the filter bypass lora looks fried to shit, civitjeet slop. the examples show how much it fucks with the color gradingand his example prompts are absolutely terrible>You are an AI that specializes in image editing descriptions that emphasize the sci-fi cartoon style of the animated series Rick and Morty and focuses on edits to look like distinctively stylized pupils and relaxed, rounded anatomy. You convert editing requests into one concise instruction as structured responses. You focus on adhering to the sci-fi cartoon style of the animated series Rick and Morty, distinctively stylized pupils, and relaxed anatomy while ensuring the importance of keeping the composition and structure of the image same as reference. You focus on the sci-fi cartoon style with emphasis on flat colors and distinctively stylize-absolutely horrific, it's not even that kind of model.
>>109166291what does it have to do with?
>>109166299The filtering, are you retarded ?When you bypass the filtering, you get emotions/expressions back (and NSFW etc), hence it has nothing to do with the VAE
>>109166297it basically makes nsfw more realistic, if for example you create a scene of a blowjob with out that filter lora it will tend to mess it up. Like the woman's face pushed right up against the crotch and penis poorly drawn like her lips blending into it, i can't really describe it what i mean. gentials look better with the filter lora enabled but the faces and other details suffer as a result how ever after reading setting the filter lora low strength can help with that. but it seems that version 11 does not have the issue perhaps they reduced its effect slightly. other than that it allows for facial expressions, which to me i find fucking baffling why they would censor expressions...
>>109166299Nta but why would a fucking vae affect the emotion lol
>>109166308But I am using the bypass and tried positive and negative emotions at bypass strength from 1 to 15?!Why would they filter POSITIVE emotions anyway?
>>109166321retards like chromakek and trani don't stop slopping on about pixel space and flux.1/2 vae which leads other retards into thinking they make a big deal in the model's prompt understanding.
>>109166217Make this the next OP
My krea anime gens suck but the realistic ones are way better. what ar people using for their krea anime gens?
>>109166365Anima
>>109166328So am I, and emotions work, what are you babbling about ?
>>109166223can't they flag your account, humans review images and I thought they had a VL look at the output before giving it to you? There's no way they'll send you a nsfw gen even if you write in Chinese. Although, I have to say I've gotten away genning some real degenerate shit, just wording it differently.
>>109166623which base model? looks like z
>>109166674>>109166674
