I keep hearing all the doom and gloom about not only AI but all the entry-level job fuckery. Despite this all the automation makes it feel like it's more important to understand how these things work, not less, at the level of actual agency. But I don't want to be at the mercy of a capricious job market or a fucked up tech culture either. Haven't lurked here for a few years, was going to get a CS degree but decided it was a bubble so fucked off elsewhere ~2019. But now I'm mastering out of an unrelated STEM Ph.D. and getting the itch for tech again. Interested in networking, sysadmin and (of course) cybersec. Would I be retarded to start grinding certs?TLDR How "fuck off we're full" is tech right now?
>>109172989No one needs you anymore lil bro. Ai is here to stay
>>109172989Pretty much full, I'd say
>>109172989money as a central topic isn't /g/. see /biz/
>>109172989The whole economy is busted, so in reality - nobody knows.And again, for example - you have thousands of games released on steam every month, but people cant find something to play - everything is slop. You have too much of the product and absence of it at the same time.
>>109174285this isn't about money, it's about pursuing technology full time, which requires being paid for doing it. yeah i could larp in a terminal all day but i'd like my understanding to be causal, dumbass
>>109172989the time to get into tech / programming / office monkey work was 15 years ago, its a deadend profession now and has been since before AI.
>>109172989I think it's become like any other area. If you are at least a bit intelligent, diligente, knowledgable, you'll be fine.But nowadays, I don't think there is any other area that has a demand as high as the prime of IT on 2015-2021. So you should go with what you think you're good at, while not making your life miserable when doing it.
>>109172989I think the days of 'lazy girl' sys admin or sitting at a desk doing HTML are over. However tech is bigger than ever, I think there's HUGE demand for 'get your hands dirty' tech guys.For example, plcs on mining machines. Automation in factories. That nexus where electricity meets pneumatics and hydraulics. >get some basic welding skills under your belt>put yourself through a introductory pneumatics course (2 days to a week)>same with hydraulics >do a 1 or 2 day bearing course >combine with your /g/tard tech skillsyou'll be on six figures and never get a day off again in no time, for a fraction of the cost/time of going to university and becoming a communist.
>>109172989Disregard the tech job market hysteria, I work in the field of B2B software services and we are constantly hiring. Besides, learning technology is also a matter of enhancing your personal autonomy, helps you automate your life, etc..The only thing you should perhaps make explicit in your resume is that you're an actual engineer and not an academic. I recently had to sift through a few dozen candidates for a RAG engineer and all the PhDs with their useless "20 scientific publications" went into trash because such people do not stay in the company for too long, because they get bored with engineering or hyper-fixate on some issues that do not matter, they are used to established routes for doing things and engineering is just not that. We were not considering education at all desu, all that matters is you being able to show that you know the practicalities of your area of expertise, but it is of course good if you know the theoretical foundation of those practicalities.
>>109177455frankly, in the modern world, academic titles and publicans just indicate that you're a good goy adult daycare enjoyer, and I wouldn't want to work with someone like that
>>109172989Your only job is gonna be working in a data centerHope you like hearing loss
>>109172989>How "fuck off we're full" is tech right now?Full.I was fired earlier this year because I couldn't return-to-office.Failed 6 interview processes. In previous interview phases of my career, it's only been 1 or 2 before I landed a job. I have 20 years of experience. Now I am starting multiple companies, because that's the new meta.
>>109172989Nigga just start your own business/service using AI
>>109172989It's probably the worst time unless you're working on the 1-4 bit matrix multipliers, the software they run, the compilers for said software or LLM research and productionizatiom in generalalmost no one here is employable in those categories and if you have to ask you aren't driven enough to succeed there either
>>109177390I'd rather be a gay communist than never have any time off, Mr Shekelstein. What's the point of all of that pay then?
>>109179729>What's the point of all of that pay then?you can put it in your bum(personally I put it up my nose)
>>109177390sounds like good advice but it's basically "use IT to get out of IT" which kind of obviates the frame>>109177920>>109178587and wishing you luck anon but running a business sounds miserable, I like computer guts work is the pointIdk I know things are fucked *now* for a lot of people but I don't understand why this is the death of tech rather than a contradiction the field needs to reconfigure around. Tech is literally leverage-over-causation so I don't see how that doesn't have an economic role when there's going to be more tech everywhere, not less. I just don't buy the picture that agentic AI is going to somehow create this impenetrable web of perfect digital cause and effect. I can see the bootcamp types who calcify because they just want a stable job being crushed but when technology is the substrate of the economy itself I don't get how "doing technology" becomes un-economical even if the market is shitting its pants right now.
>>109180343>I don't understand why this is the death of techThe value add of AI is its replacement of knowledge workers. The only reason companies would continue to hire humans is to maintain their investments in office real estate (hence return to office).
>>109180397Yeah obviously but that's the contradiction I'm talking about. Knowledge work as a wage category is fucked, fine, but my point is that that space being entirely closed off from human agency seems both absurd on the merits of AI itself, but also absurd from the standpoint of having a functional economy. Like I get the logic of rentier capitalism, I'm calling into question why that becomes a new normal rather than transitory such that investing in technical knowledge still makes sense, even if the category of work shifts from knowledge production to judgment or whatever
>>109180471>that space being entirely closed off from human agency seems both absurd on the merits of AI itselfIf you think you are one of the few people still needed and deserving of high pay, then please go try your luck.>but also absurd from the standpoint of having a functional economyEconomy will continue to exist, but foot soldier tech jobs making good money is over.
>>109180498>If you think you are one of the few people still needed and deserving of high payagain missing my point. Unless you're telling me mass redundancy creates zero pressure for change. It's far costlier to enforce pointless tyranny against an angry population than to just give people outlets for their agency, no good will required
