why can a good technology like aircon be considered fascist in europe?
because heckin' niggerinos and other povertybrowns dont have access to it so you cant either
because Europe is ruled by neoliberal commies. I blame the anglos and the US for pushing this via NATO.
why do americans obsess about Europe 24/7?
>>109173197>364 days of the year>HAHA AMEIRCA>1 day>lol europoors can't into heatpumps!You all lose your minds
>>109173297>1 dayit's like the half of may until the end of september, actually
>have to see picrel from Europeans for years>"why do americans use AC?" or "why don't Americans use pircrel?">realize euros never use themLaughing my ass off now.
>>109173151Europoors are way too far left it's my guessDo they view Mamdani as right wing I wonder
>>109173197>This confuses and enrages the amerifatRemember those posts? Thousands of them over the years. Bragging about windows that pivot a hundred ways, none of which are compatible with an AC, which you were so fond to point out each time, claiming you'd never need AC. That's why everyone, not just Americans, are making fun of you. If you're going to run your mouth, you have to be prepared to eat shit when whatever you were babbling on about bites you in the ass.
How can Yanks be this evil?
>>109173151Why are you spamming this shit kremlinjeet?t. In Europe and have installed whatever aircon I like in server rooms for decades whenever the fuck I like. Also completely unnecessary in the climate I like in in residential (you know the wnothern European white nations you fantasise about)Who the fuck posts this crap?>>109173197This ia orachestrated spam by jeets influenced by kremlin theme sheets
>>109173414I'm in Ireland. I don;t need aircon and your a gibbering retarded spastic .
>>109173471>t. In Europe and have installed whatever aircon I like in server rooms for decades whenever the fuck I likeDon't read the news where the EU is limiting anyone with an Aircon that is over 150w
>>109173478Why don't you have heatpumps at the very least then? They are cheaper and easier to maintain/install than Aircon and are reversable.Cold winter? Turn it on heat modeHot summer? Turn it on cool modeMuggy day? Turn it on dehumidifyWant to just stir the air? Fan modeThey cost like nothing to run here in the USA since electricity is like .12c KwH.
Nothing personnel yuros
>>109173151This is not true, I'm in eastern europe (also known as satan's armpit in the summer) and everyone has acs, every residential building has dozens of these things
>>109173454>>109173504top kek
>>109173197I dunno, probably because we've paid for your existence for the last 80 years, yet received absolutely zero benefits from it.Fuck, we get lithium and cobalt and other shit from slinging billions at Niggafrica. You? Endless communist bitching because we won't give you a bigger allowance (to exist).
>>109173481I already don't read Israeli disinformation, thank you for the warning though.
>>109173504Australia should be on fire as well to be honest (it's winter here it's actually okay right now)
>>109173414>none of which are compatible with an ACthats third world tier lol how are burgers bragging about a box placed on the edge of a window frame? this is how it's done. watch and learn mutts
>>109173151EU:>heatpump for heatingHECK YEAH EVERYONE WILL BE FORCED TO HAVE IT, EVERYTHING ELSE WILL BE TAXED HARD SO YOU USE ONLY HEATPUMP>heatpump for coolingWTF ARE YOU FUCKING NAZI WHO WANTS TO DESTROY THE PLANET, REEEEE
>>109175773>EUBuy and us want AC you want>/Pol/ tards of /g/They are banning AC!!!
>>109173151It's only the case on buildings with historical facade protection rules and also only in some countries.A lot of our windows on existing buildings also make use of the other ACs with the tube you put out the window basically impossible to do lmao.Generally a lot of new builds are being built with AC in mind. But this is the issue with having buildings older than the USA lol
>>109175793>They are banning AC!!!EU said they are pushing a law through that makes home units of AC's be something stupidly low. IIRC it's basically only enough to have a unit in one room of the home, which makes sense because duct work is impossible in your buildings.
>>109175985>EU saidWhere? On /pol/?
>>109173151What the fuck are you talking about? I am in YUROP. There is Seether Europe and then there is Erkondišn Europe.Boomers here literally do call it "aircondition" phonetically spelled and all. Comical. Zoomers will call it "Climate Device" transliterated.
>>109173151quality of life improvements are facist, you dont deserve them
>>109176058Reuters
>>109173504Please, keep going cause I love kraut seething.My part of E*rope is NOT like them. I myself have Japan AC, the building across the street has all selections, mostly China AC but also plenty Japan, Korea and EVEN ONE FUCKING ISRAEL AC.>IndiaKEK but even they do have them
>>109173151Because our bureaucrats fucking hate us, and I mean that with all sincerity, they are more comically evil compared to medieval lords.At least medieval lords didn't resettle enemy combatants among the serfs then watch them get slaughtered and jail the serfs when they voice their opposition to getting slaughtered. Like others said the schizophrenia and insanity are astounding. AC is literally a heat pump, EU governments give grants to people to stop using fossil fuel heating so they can upgrade to a heat pump. But if you use said heat pump to keep yourself cool in the summer you're literally killing the environment, and probably a right-wing extremist.
>>109173454based
>>109176358Sure, if you say so.
>>109173151i never lived in a home without AC since 2001.>t. hungarian
>>109176372>i never lived in a home>t. hungarianfixed
What in the fuck is wrong with you retards? Do you actually spend your time making shit up and then seething about it? Is this what real mental illness looks like?
>>109176058Trust him, his dad works for the EU, John EU is his coworker
>>109173497>They cost like nothing to run here in the USA since electricity is like .12c KwH.I thought the main selling point of heat pumps was that it saves energy costs
>>109176361>If they don't give me free AC they're evil.Just buy one yourself, it's like 500 eur. Are you that poor.>>109176382We're just executing prompts.
>>109176382it's some extreme american goycattle psyop that was always here but it got cranked up to 9000% this year for some reason. probably has nothing to do with (((current events))), of course.
>>109176361small ACs are far less regulated than big heat pump installations
>>109176394>I thought the main selling point of heat pumps was that it saves energy costsAnon, the post is saying that with the low US KwH price and the efficiency of a heat pump you practically pay nothing.
obsessed
>>109176377huh
>>109176409What does that have to do with America tho?Heat pumps are generally cheaper anywhere, except maybe some oil country with super cheap fossils.
>>109176443Anon... Kilowatt Hour Costs.The post is saying how insanely cheap a heatpump is with the added value of america's usually cheap energy.
>>109176396That's not what I said faggot, and I have AC. >>109176402Whether it transfers heat using air, or water pipes in the floor and walls, it's besides the point it's all just a heat pump in principle. I'm pointing out that hypocrisy like this anon did >>109175773
>>109176443America Kwh costs are like 1/3rd of what euro costs are, and the units aren't always subject to VAT/tariffs.
>>109176466what hypocrisy?the same regulations apply on refrigerants for bothyou're just inventing issues to get angry aboutbut there are actually more lax rules for small ACs (and heat pumps - like a heat pump dryer for example)
>>109176503electricity is even cheaper in Chinawhat does that have to do with anything?heat pumps are still gonna be cheaper than electric heating no matter where you areit's a weird thing to bring up in the context of heat pumps
>>109176466Then just use your damn AC.What do you want "the EU" to do for you? Suck your dick?
>>109176520Why do you keep inventing imaginary arguments and replying to them?
>>109176520>What do you want "the EU" to do for you? Suck your dick?That would be a start...
>>109176519>electricity is even cheaper in Chinaand the average income is also so much lower.>what does that have to do with anything?This is some turd world talking>heat pumps are still gonna be cheaper than electric heating no matter where you areSo why don't europoors just all turn it on and run them in all their homes? Why are europoors complaining how spending 500 on a one time install to run when needed is an issue. Why are thousands dying?
>>109173151>in europeNot really, it's just Britain and even there only London. Almost every house in Finland has a mini-split type heat pump nowadays, mainly for heating but the cooling is a nice bonus.>considered fascist?They want people to be miserable so they would believe in climate change more. If you can be comfortable in your home, it doesn't feel like there's a crisis going on. See the recent Lotus Eaters video.
>>109173151It is? Where I live it seems to be more of a money question. Kind of pointless to spend thousands on AC when you can get a fan for like 30 bucks for the 3 weeks where it gets really hot.At least in homes, businesses tend to have AC obviously.
>>109176553europe is massively pushing adoption of heat pumpsand europeans are buying them about as much as americansso what the fuck are you even talking about?
>>109176616Americans don't really get that we never needed that extra cooling.20 years ago, my baby boomer parents looked at me funny just for buying a desk fan, something completely unnecessary in their eyes.And a little 20€ 30W fan that I can just place somewhere got me comfortably through most summers.Naturally a lot of people are hesitating to upgrade from that to a 700€ 1.4kW monstrosity where you have to do extra shit to install it and have to keep all your windows closed the whole time it's running.
>>109176621>europe is massively pushing adoption of heat pumps>and europeans are buying them about as much as americansonly air-to-water heatpumps that can be used to heat radiators, without cooling
>>109176360hello /balk/ /aimos/anyway, for the rest of you jsut read my post and opinion on the manner coppied from /aimos/ :"Every single AC conversation is just a female behavior conversation - there is no AC problems, or drama, or anything - there is a femoid problem. without femoids, noone would ever have any cooling problems during the summer - even the energy crisis and war with russia is a femoid created problem ( EU gov is a femoid childless gov ).Just answer me: when was the last time some dude decided to go and put the AC temp on 25 degrees in the office? what about 27? Never? Men put the temp between 18 and 24 depending on how much of a bro they are and how skinny they are. Real bros just go 19-20 so that they accommodate everyone. 21 degrees would be the temp the team leader, father of office nation would put. if a bro is sick, temp can go to 22.... and then the disgusting childless ugly whore will come start screaming and put it on 26..... I would not even rape her, just behead her - why rape this ugly barren pussy that has produced no children and never will? Death and torture are the only option. I am a strong anti-rape advocate.Seriously, name me 1 instance of a femoid not fucking the AC temp - you cannot. But I blame men too - one of the ACs has to be controlled via a phone app so the femoids could not put the temp up and the bros all had it at 18, but then a fucking filthy simp informed the childless hags what app to install on their phones and how to put it on 28. It is men who are to blame for this. Had men just took a knife and pointed it at any femoid asking for the temp to be put up because "their hear is wet", the AC question would be solved in an instant.Its the downfall of men for them to suffer no AC, when AC can be rebuild if they all started beating women and telling Putler that he is a bro and to send energy and gas for the AC."
>>109176706the fuck are you talking aboutreversible heatpumps vastly outnumber non-reversibleand this image is for fucking Norway, the last country in Europe that needs cooling
They're tricky to install and the electricity prices are ass.Also we hate the EU, especially after they've decided that they won't run AC in the European parliament due to "climate change". Except of course on the floors and within the hours when communist traitors like Ursula Von Der Leyen are present in the building, as the ruling party class gets all the luxuries while all the proles beneath and around them deserve to suffer.Let this be clear: anyone who doesn't look at this cunt and doesn't want to fedpost in a nanosecond is not European.
>>109176616It's a fat thing, fats can't survive without AC and seeing that like what, 75% of amerilards are fat now? You see their requirement for AC as they have so much lard in between their skin and their organs, they are actually risking organ failure existing in any room above 25C. I grew up with a massive central air unit and haven't had or used one in maybe 15 years since. Usually summer is around 25C to 35C here and humidity is 100% for months on end, being that I'm not a fat fuck, this isn't a problem, despite being told that I should have died every summer for the past decade and a half because muh wet bulb and muh heat stroke. It's purely and entirely because of fat fucks
>>109173197America watches Europe's decay in real time. We dont care about Europe, so much as we use it as an example of something to stay the fuck away from
>>109176808Funny, that's exactly how we look at America
>>109176808>We dont care about EuropeI don't think constantly talking about Europe unprompted constitutes as "not caring".I don't care about America and I rarely talk about it, let alone think about it. But sure, tell me how I'm gonna get raped by shitskins or whatever it is you like to talk about all the time. You know my country better than me after all.
>>109173151I live in europe and I have 4 AC units at home and 2 in my summer house, I don't think any of those giga fascist politicians crying about muh AC are enduring 40C temps in the shadows.
>>109176808>constantly posts about europe>bruh i don't even care!!!yeah sure buddy.
>>109176847>I don't think any of those giga fascist politicians crying about muh AC are enduring 40C temps in the shadowsDer Fuhrer, Ursula Von Der Leyen, sure as hell isn't. She gets the AC while the rest of the EU Parliament is cut off.Look at her. She's laughing at (You). And (You) can't do shit about her ruining your life and future. And she's taking great satisfaction out of treating you like cattle and playing with you. You can't even speak against her as the EU Gestapo will raid your house, confiscate all your belongings and arrest you. You can't even rebel against this regime as you are not allowed to own any weapons. You have been degraded into a feudal serf and you can't do anything about it, even when you do get mad you won't have what it takes to change the course of history. They won.
>>109173151its not, but you click and watch ads
20 years ago, my grandma, an extremely liberal Spaniard woman (she went to jail for protesting Franco when she was a student) was extremely proud of her newly installed air conditioner. She was very happy and constantly talked about how great Madrid's summers were since she had one.I think in the last decade Yuropeens suffered some kind of extreme American derangement syndrome and they are willing to make their lives miserable in order to distance themselves as much as possible from anything that is adjacent to America.It's extreme retardation.
>>109176897Yeah everyone had ACs twenty years ago in Europe. Then they suddenly decided to throw them all away to spite America.
>>109176876How's the weather in Moscow, comrade?
>>109176897>I think in the last decade Yuropeens suffered some kind of extreme American derangement syndrome and they are willing to make their lives miserable in order to distance themselves as much as possible from anything that is adjacent to America.That's just Germans. They have extreme TDS.Though to be fair Americans are objectively doing some bad shit and using way too much energy.
>>109176938>only Russians hate the EU>everything is Russia's fault>Russia Russia RussiaAh, I see you've gotten fully indoctrinated into unconditionally bending over for Von Der Leyen. Good goyim. Berlin? Paris? Which shithole are you rotting in, little worm?
>>109173454but AC just takes heat from the inside of a home and pumps it outside, it doesn't add extra heat
>>109176950>parrot RT>NOOO how dare you call me Russianwouldn't your time be better spent dodging Ukranian drones are something?
>>109176950It's likely you've been brainwashed by Russian propaganda and you don't even know it. They were actually very active on /pol/ 10 years ago. And they funded a lot of "dissidents" in the west.
>>109176953Pumping does require energy, energy that end up as extra heat.
>>109173197We should have let you fall to the Nazis
>>109176706This anon's brain melt or something?A heat pump literally takes heat from one area and puts it in another.>>109176744Do they make non reversable heatpumps anymore due to how the majority of the market is wanting heat/cool/dehumidify? Seems like such a niche thing. I know your graph says heat only but never seen one.
>>109176962>thinking that being aware of a jew owned by the WEF who tries to destroy Western civilization is exclusive to RussiansAre you retarded?
>>109176975>de leyen>jewishretard
>>109176974>Do they make non reversable heatpumps anymoreUnfortunately due to bongistanian retardation, heat only heatpumps are the most common installations because they are built to be retrofitted into wet central heating and hot water installations. The actual heat pump part is probably completely capable of being reversible, but the purpose it's being put to prevents it being used as such.
>>109176974most heatpumps being installed in my cuntry (Germany) are meant to replace old gas boilers that heat water in radiators. so basically these heatpumps just heat radiators electrically (by taking the heat from the outside). while the heatpump itself can also cool in theory, this doesn't work with the existing radiator setup. i guess you could theoreitically connect some air conditioner wall units to it though.
>>109176996and to add, like >>109176994 also said, they're also used to heat hot water for the taps and shower
>>109173197>projecting this hardWe only notice you when you do incredibly silly stuff like say that aircon is fascist.
>>109177012So you made some shit up no one said and then get angry about it and then pretend you're not obsessed.Imagine if Europeans got angry about every extremely silly shit Americans do, we all would have died from a heart attack by now.
>>109177025Not angry, amused. America lives rent free in Europe's mind anyway so it doesn't take much imagination anyway.
>>109176996Reversable ones are the same size(all things considered), they just have an upgraded compressor and use slightly different liquid to cool/heat. Even back in Japan and Korea, you could get one for like ~400 bucks that does it all with a 5-10 year warranty. I can't imagine someone being so jewish about money they would opt for something lower for a device lasting them +5 years.
>>109173151If you haven't noticed yet everything good is fascism.
I live in Europe and I never understood this AC shit. People who hate hot weather buy AC units all the time and I've never seen anyone give them shit for it in my entire life but the internet makes it seem like some huge issue. Then again I don't live in France or Germany thank god.
>>109177039the whole rent free thing doesn't really work in a thread by americans crying about europe
>>109177074So all those people that died from heat simply like hot weather, gotcha. Only 1 out 4 households in EU has AC btw.
>>109177074>I don't live in France or GermanyThe only reason people I know shit on ACs is the high cost of electricity but that might just be because I was growing up in one of the most frugal areas of Germany.I'm getting a decent (although still shit) mobile AC next year, it's not worth putting a split AC into the wall of my rented 570€ apartment.
>>109177096because extreme heat waves are new and alien to the boomers dying from itthey've learned to fear the cold but never the heat
>>109177074It's Europeans every year that complain about the heat and proceed to not do anything about itIt's just been line after line of excuses.>it's only hot a few days>Ok maybe it's a few weeks but it's expensive >Our buildings aren't made for it>The grid can't take it>Ok maybe it's a few months but we as enlightened Europeans just acclimate (ie suffer)>FUCK OFF AMERIFAT IT'S YOUR FAULT THE CLIMATE IS DYING WITH AC>AC IS FASCISM
>>109176962I don't even read the news, let alone RT. By the way, by reading RT to know which opposing opinions to cry down as "Russian misinformation", you're still reading RT.Western Yuros truly are something else. Lemme guess, you're one of those Kraut fags, correct?
>>109177166>I don't even read the news,Wow, then you must be very knowledgeable about current events and not just parroting Russian propaganda or pajeet twitter ragebait targeting the very dumb and uneducated.
>>109173151I was told they all had heat pumpsJust reverse it for now?And also that they used renewables and nuclear power unlike usSo AC should be relatively harmless
>>109176966>It's likely you've been brainwashed by Russian propaganda and you don't even know it.Not him, but I watch a lot of non russian assets of distinct ideologies from my country, and I can tell you for sure, among every right winger who's anti russian, you can hear them shit about von der leyen.Hell, most of the right in my country outside the political parties is extremely anti EU, because you only need your own two eyes to see every single news article about how the EU is fucking you up, add it to the massive corruption running rampant inside every government and I don't even think there's a single non default commie that sees any politician with good eyes.
>>109173481>Don't read the news where the EU is limiting anyone with an Aircon that is over 150wThat's Britain and they are not part of Europe. I have a 3.5kW inverter in a flat and no ones told me shit about it.
>>109177074>I never understood this AC shitEurope chose WEF communism. WEF demanded depopulation of functioning European society. So they import tens of millions of migrants to disrupt the society. Now all of European capitals (western), are made up of majority non-Europeans. The AC shit is just part of WEF's de-industrialization process of Europe to depopulate a functioning society.In a span of decade or two, Europe is turning into a third world country.
>>109177252>WEF>WEF>WEFanyone who thinks that means anything is a guaranteed fucking retard
>>109177252Europe is a tectonic plate anon...Amerimutts... *sigh*
>>109173151Only western Europe.Eastern everybody here have AC kek.
>>109176950You say that but there are a lot of terms and rhethoric in this thread that from my experience nobody but Russians use. A lot of this stuff is similar to the propaganda they use when justifying the war too. Almost nobody in EU thinks EU leaders are doing a good job but the criticism is worded very differently so I'm at least 80-90% sure you are Russian. I wish gookmoot didn't delete the unique ip count because I feel like it would be very low here.
>>109176439I'm not from retardburgerland, Attila the Ching Chong.
>>109177308Yeah, western Europe got infected first. Eastern Europe still understand the evils of communism so its shielded from some of the dumb experiment western Europe is going through
>>109173197Man, why the fuck shouldn't Americans make fun of Europe's subhuman decisions? It feels good to ridicule Europeans for these decisions, that's all there is to it.
>>109177466yet I only hear lots whining and little joking from burgers
>heatwave ends>muh AC muh climate change threads on faster boards instantly disappear>this one still lingershehmakes you think
>>109177377that's my brother actually
>>109173151Ukrop here. Western Europe is butthurt about ACs because "muh istorikal fasad". Not kidding, they ban owners of old buildings from having split-system ACs because it makes them look ugly. Kinda understandable, considering some of them were built back when you still had slaves and temps were quite lower.Eastern Europe doesn't care, though, our buildings are ugly by default. Small mercies of commie past, I guess.
>>109177322>I have this special ability to detect Russians so you must trust me when I say it's the Russians.Pathetic and lame attempt to use a logical fallacy.
>>109177486Your willful ignorance isn't a statement of fact.
>>109173629This it's just more MSM lies to get everyone fighting with each other instead of looking at the Epstein class.
>>109177848It's horseshitSome towns in the US are literally Hitler about historical antebellum era properties. Down to needing council approval for outside alterations and restorations, oversight to make sure each individual historical plank is reused and are only able to use approved contractors and paint suppliers.Guess what they still have?Fucking AC
>>109173151>AC fascistIt's some kind of a american meme. Most businesses here in Europe have aircons and they are getting increasingly popular in residential places in all of Europe. In southern Europe ACs have been a thing for decades now.
>>109177848Just have the compressor on the roof
>>109178015cant
>>109177848It is a shame they make those outdoor units so ugly.For a couple of euro's extra they could make them look decent just like they make the indoor parts look decent.I'll bet they could even make them blend in with historic architecture of they cared at all.Real problem is people only care what the insides or their homes look like and maybe the other homes across the street but they don't have to look at their own facades.
>>109173197>why do americans obsess about Europe 24/7?I think it's the other way around
>>109176439He got lucky and is being disingenuous. AC availability in Hungary is pretty low. People are fucking poor, electricity is literally rationed by the household, and people have the generic eurocope retardation against ACs instead of viewing them as a basic facility like having a fucking washing machine.
>>109179477Oh and the government literally asked people not to turn on their ACs in the late afternoon hours on the hottest day in history lmaoI'm not surprised so many euros get a heatstroke every year.
