These four operating systems and their respective package managers represent the gold standard in simple, straightforward Unix-like computing. Which one do you prefer for your Unix-like personal computer?
>>109173681i didn't find gentoo to be simple or straightforward at all desuthe distribution tools are split across various packages which aren't installed by default, the documentation of those tools is lacking, and emerge spews loads of useless info which drowns out the thing youre actually looking foralso gentoo has hard dependencies on systemd-libs, dbus and other shitware
>>109173681Apple App Store
This operating systems and the App Store represent the gold standard in simple, straightforward Unix-like computing. Loonix just can't compete.
idk I can't get into BSD. it just feels underdeveloped and incomplete, and requires a lot of hand holding.
>>109174112I'm about to install openbsd, what am I in for.
>>109174210a trip back in time to the 80s
>>109174210It's a fine OS. I just moved back to GNU/Linux because I deal a lot with AI tools and node-pty is cumbersome on OpenBSD.
>>109174036>>109174081fpbp
I read up on Slackware recently and it seems even more simple and Unix-like than Gentoo or Void.
Cuck license
>>109173681I like gentoo, haven't tried the others though
>>109174210Well it's nice how it doesn't have a million packages installed by default for no discernible reason. It's a really small OS where everything makes sense. Even Gentoo pulls in a lot of crap like >>109174029said. I wish it were more "gentoo" in actuality.
>>109174081I'd rather get flayed to death by Houthi pirates before using an OS that expects me to use Finder.
>>109174267>SlackwareBloated as shit and still has no packages. Unusable.
>>109173681Void, it's the most battery efficient distro I've tried on my laptop. Nothing's ever broken on me, and it's probably the simplest "DIY distro" out at the moment. Wish the repos were a bit bigger.
OpenBSD is comfy but a few of the packages and ports are out of date.
>>109175143What's the build tools from source option like?
>>109175164Never used xbps-src honestly, I just download regular source files from GitHub and make them that way.The only issue I've had with compilation is that so many libraries are split between regular and "devel" that need to be installed separately too. Some of said libraries also have names that are different from what they are in most other distros. Building from source is pretty standard for the most part, but for the first few builds you're probably gonna be frustrated with how many library errors you get.
>>109174267in slackware we need to manually take care of dependencies. so its difficult to get a minimal installation but it is possible. and slackware is very unix with sysv init. the community is great too with lots of unix greybeards and hippies. but i use void nowadays and it is a great distro
>>109175269I've been quite tempted to go back to linux after exploring openbsd for a while, and void sounds like a great option to try out now that I've gotten familiar with what's under the hood.
>>109175321void is great. you can also try devuan. to get a minimal devuan installation install using debootstrap
>>109175119what about flayed to death by Houthi Pirates while trying to send that important file to your commander while using finder?
>>109174210It works. But you need to learn it the Unix way, through the documentation and all.Certain problematic components, such as wifi and GPU firmware, are not included because the installation media contains only free software. There are instructions on howto deal with this on the OpenBSD websiteAs for desktop use, I found Xfce to be relatively stable. Plasma I've not tested on 7.9, dont know if it still crashes when using the search feature in the application menu
Slackware, you don't need anything else.
>>109175844Seriously, what is the benefit of Slackware? From what I hear it does not even have dependency management? Maybe there is some cool thing I am missing.
>>109175861>does not even have dependency managementDepending on your definitions of simple and straightforward, that could actually be desirable.
If you try out openbsd I recommend the cwm calm window manager, it's supplied with the base system and really simple to use and customise though some of the key combos take a bit of memorisation.You can find examples of .cwmrc files with a quick google or I can share part of mine.
NixOS does it best.
>>109175269>>109175321>>109175361samefag
>>109173681xbps-src, nixpkgs, pkgsrc and guix all use their own directory and thus can be added to any distro or posix compatible os
>>109176642Perfect for slackware desuWish debian was like that too without having to use distrobox
>>109174029>gentoo has hard dependencies on systemd-libs, dbus and other shitwareYou mean for shitware that requires systemd-libs and dbus? How is this gentoo's fault?
just ate two chicken sandwiches now im bloated like GNU
>>109174210You're in for a true Unix experience, where everything in the OS feels clean and tidy compared to Linux. Man pages are very important to OpenBSD and you can tell that everything was made by a single team (naming, how programs interact, etc), so follow the afterboot man page if you get stuck. Also WiFi could be an issue depending on your card (ie if you have a super new one that isn't Intel), but overall it has a great retro feel out of the box and can be a really nice daily driver OS once your install your favorite WM/DE and accept you aren't going to be able to do AI/AAA Gaming/etc on that one machine. If you want a polished Mac-like experience where the terminal is only used for installing/updating and just see your computer as a bootloader for programs you want to run, you'll likely just see it as an inferior Linux. BSD people aren't going to try and convince you that its actually great and you're just holding it wrong. Trve BSD Bigots only want people who "get it" so no hate if it isn't for you.
>>109174029>i didn't find gentoo to be simple or straightforward at all desupersonal problemgentoo 4 lyfe
>>109176569how new
