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Is this a bent pin?
>>109187975yes, you lost the slot cover and now you're paying the price.
>>109187975still is
>>109187985>>109187986Well fuck, I haven't done this shit in so long, I forgot how fragile these things are. Do I just throw this motherboard away, now?
>>109187956Yeah i've seen some of that. Shit's rough out here. Might have to wait for people to sell the clothes off of their backs bundled with their pc's before I can hope to get what i want.>>109187961I take it that that's an unreasonably high bar to clear then?
>>109187999you can try to unbend it, but lmao
>>109187999we are getting older and the tech is getting frailer
>>109188018Is it even really remotely possible? I'm close to just returning a bunch of shit and just doing what I should have done to begin with, which is buy entirely new shit. I don't know whether to go AMD or Intel, though.>>109188020It's an 11th gen Intel socket.
>>109188027It's frail.
>>109187975>>109188027lga1200 pins are thicker and sturdier and spaced apart further than the ones in lga1700 and am5 so you should be able to bend it back with tweezers and a steady hand
>>109188017>I take it that that's an unreasonably high bar to clear then?Depends on what settings you want to run the game at and the target resolution/refresh rate.
If you live in usa you should just bite the bullet and work at a minimum wage job for like 2 months and buy a 3k $ pc
>>109188169It seems sturdy all right, but the issue is vision. I can't get a good read on what the fuck it's actually doing wrong or how to fix it.
>>109187999>Do I just throw this motherboard away, now?Yes
>>109188182lga pins are angled diagonally and hooked at the end
>>109188209Great conceptually but how am I supposed to do that without a magnifying glass and a headlamp?
Shuttle’s $699 SB860R8 barebone is 3.5 times larger than Steam Machine
>>109188214Get your 20 year old son with 20/20 vision to do it for you
>>109188218People who can't handle the size of a mATX/mITX build are just self-reporting on the shoebox they live in.
i just realized how much hdds are going fori’m sitting on 13 8tb wd red nas driveshell yeah
I want to get an AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D2. The two motherboards I'm looking at for that are the ASUS ROG Crosshair X870E Glacial and the MSI MEG X870E Maximum Godlike. Which of these is likely the better choice?
>>109188283I generally lean away from asus due to shit software, and towards msi since they've been reliablebut this case mostly relies on what color scheme youre going for
>>109188283the assus glacial requires armoury crate to configure the oled display. that's the strongest reason for why I'm staying away from it desu
>>109188314The only thing is apparently the Glacial uses monoblock heatsinks designed to run a custom loop through it. I don't know if there's a way to NOT run a custom loop through it since I'm only using a Noctua AIO for the CPU.
https://wccftech.com/intel-expected-to-restart-supply-of-10th-12th-13th-and-14th-gen-processors-in-mainland-china/>Intel expected to restart supply of 10th-, 12th-, 13th-, and 14th-gen processors in mainland China.LOLOL
>>109188334its a gimmick. the glacial already has a teamed (doubled) 11 phase vcore of 110A powerstages which is more than enough to run even the 96-core threadripper without breaking a sweat let alone the tiny 16-core chips on am5
>>109188334Asus doesn't even do any type of VRM/monoblock anymore.Kinda sad really
Frank Cifaldi, director of the Video Game History Foundation, says piracy has become the only practical way to preserve many older games that would otherwise disappear.“As the director of a historical video game preservation institution, and someone who has dedicated his entire adult life to this cause, this is accurate.”“We have attempted to work with the industry’s trade organization to find a legal path forward, but they refuse to offer a meaningful alternative.”
I need help getting back into PC building.I haven't built a PC since 2014 or 2015 and it's old and dying.My budget is basically unlimited, lets say $7,000 (not a hard limit). I'm not looking for specialized corporate hardware, just top of the line without too much concern for price. I know everything is up in price, but I'll spend extra to make it work.I'm in the US. My use cases are>Software engineering: have to be able to compile huge amounts of code quickly without melting or dying>AI: I want to get into using AI outside of memes, especially if I can have it help me with workflow>Games: I'm not building just a work PC, so I want to game on it at the top end without getting bottlenecked>Looks decent: My last PC was a black brick of efficiency and I regret not being able to look into it. Not an absolute requirement, but I would like to make it look "nice" and have a window, but it doesn't have to be ridiculous or customized with plumbing and LEDs.My default sense was to get a 5090 regardless of cost and work backwards from there, so if anyone wants to throw shit at the wall, I'd love to hear ideas. I'm completely out of the loop on these things.
General-purpose Server• AMD EPYC “Venice” server• Closed-loop cooling for CPU• Supports up to 256 cores• PCIe Gen6• Zen6 Cores
>>109188399without concern for price, 5090, 9950x3d2 (you are in the small subset that can utilize it), case is going to be a "look at things and pick one you like", get a decent 64gb kit of ram, a high end psu, and then as much storage as fits into the remainder of your budget.
Steam Machine Vs. 9070XT and Intel Laptop CPUReturnal Epic Settings 4k Native
>>109188399basic options would be50909950x3d2 or wait the zen 6 optionsnoctua aio cooler for cpuam5 mobo, x870 has slightly more pcie lanes for multiple nvmes. b850 is standard if you dont need those64gb ddr5 ram, or less to save money if you dont need it for work/ai. 32gb will be fine for gaming. cl30 6000mhz is standard1000w psu, atx 3.1. Corsair is a popular brand fractal north case looks nice, or meshify 3nvmes can be really expensive, samsung 990 pro was popular, or 9100 2tb
>>109188283Aorus X870e Xtreme X3D.
>>109188421>>109188410This will probably be a dumb question: Is there a reason to go 64GB over say 128GB other than price?
>>109188399You might want to consider some cheaper Threadripper Pro CPU, so you can get much more RAM and so you can actually plug several 5090s into a single system
>>109188435Yes, somewhat. Ideally you want only one dimm per channel, and getting 128 with that means paying exorbitant amounts for 2x64g dimms
>>109188435bigger drives might have worse gaming perf due to worse timingsim not sure about it but am5 seems to prefer 2 sticks of ram for stability or something, easier to oc without problems
>>109188416The funny part about this comparison is that the 9070 XT is only 1/2 the total cost of a GabeCube. It's actually 100% feasible to build a rig with that budget and this card.
>>109188169Okay, so one more question: how good is "good enough?" Because I took the motherboard out of the case and I... kinda fixed it? Those pins are still kinda loose compared to others but they're back sort of in the position they should be and there's only a little discoloration that shows something's wrong when you shine the light on it at certain angles.
>>109188181I got fired from my shitty min wage job and am currently looking for another. I was planning on building this month but it seems I'll have to wait some more, in sure prices will just get higher so fuck me I guess.
>>109188399more than 48 GB ram is basically a requirement for local AI models>>109188447don't undervalue the attraction of good customer support and convenience anon. a lot of devs I work with only buy macs and pay for subs for everything, even knowing how easy it is to pirate their time is a huge premium, especially with kids they don't want to spend time on it
>>109188448NTA: as long as pins make contact and aren't broken it's fine anon.
>>109188447I just boughted a 9070 XT and 5800X3D machine for a similar price to a 2TB Steam Machine. ~1500, including (non-Steam) controllers.I was a little surprised, because I wasn't trying to keep it that low. It's definitely bigger and louder then a Steam Machine, which is unfortunate, but it's still small and quiet enough to sit on my amp under my TV and not bother everyone in the living room.
>>1091884899070 xt is overclocked by default so you need to undervolt it with msi afterburner, it'll be much quieterand you want to fix the cpu fan curves to be more relaxed to deal with the amd retard boost behavior
>>109188489Doesn't a 9070xt get bottlenecked by a 5800x 3d? I thought it had something to do with the DDR4.
>>109188483Then I may have salvaged this shit after all.I'm still retarded for going through with this but what I want to build brand new is an extra $5,000. Mostly because 8TB Gen 5 NVMes and 128GB DDR5 are absolutely extortionate prices. So are 5090s.
>>109188399spend extra for an asus astral 5090. the per-pin monitoring is a killer feature in not having your 12vhpwr cable meltedthe wireview pro ii works as well on most other 5090s but its far less integrated and you won't be able to use hwinfo64 to monitor or shut down the system from current overloading
Any reason why I shouldn't preorder a Modos Flow? It's probably the closest thing to a workable eink monitor that's 60hz
>>109188483>>109188518What do you think? One of those pins is looking a little thing but I'm afraid to keep fiddling with shit because I really might break the damn thing, as I almost thought I did several times already.
>>109188540Per-pin monitoring can be done on either the PSU or the GPU's side?
>>109188563could be wrong, but it looks pretty good to me now anon.
>>109188581gpu side monitoring makes more sense since it's closer to the source and gpus are pricy to fix
>>109188563looks as good as new
>>109188646youd def go for 16gb vram if you can
>>109188667well whatever you do 8gb is too little for a new systemid say 5070 is best gpu now so if you can afford that go for it
>>109188601>>109188624Well, no point trying to fiddle with it more, I think. One of those pins still slightly bothers me but it still looks good from every other angle. Guess I'm just gonna latch the i9 in there and hope to God for the best.
>>109188667then you either go for a 5050 or you get a 9060XT 16gb
>>109188685You dont want to use amd gpus for a system you build for a friend since they'll get upset.
>>109188700AMD drivers are better than Nvidias at this point
$83 - Ryzen 5500 with coolerFree - MSI Ventus 3060 12gbFree - 550w psuFree - 4tb hdd 3.5"Free - 2x 1tb hdds 2.5"$80 - MSI B550$36 - Cooler Master MasterBox Q300L Micro-ATXFree - 4x 4gb ddr4Free 256gb nvmeI'm just waiting on the mobo now. Wanted a controller game/emulator and media pc for living room and have access to a bunch of ewaste.
>>109188728don't get the cucked down 5500 it's basically a 3600 when it comes to performancethe jump from 3000 to 5000 was bigget a 5600 which has more l3 cache
>>109188728I also ordered a $360 75" 4k 60hz tv and a cheap soundbar to go with this for the true console experience.
>>109188733The xt and the x are basically all that is available now which are more like $170 and I would have to buy a cooler. i originally had a 3600 with this 3060 but I sent that cpu to a friend who couldn't afford a computer when I got a 5700x in my main computer.
>>109188746Also I'll probably transplant my current computer into this case when I go to am6 and build that in my antec c8. I will be moving this mobo/processor into a jonsbo n5 and make a nas with a bunch of ewaste drives. Will probably just stick a 1030 or similar in that though and sell the 3060 for like $80 or whatever
God, I have the money, it won't even really hurt me financially, I budgeted for it, and I'm STILL hesitating on pulling the trigger on a 5080 I picked out. Spending $1400 on a single item fucking sucks.
>>109188778you sound liek you want a 5070 ti instead
>>109188778We were already supposed to have 5080 supers by now and got cucked by jensen and altman 69ing each other with circular investing and buying all the memory in the world for a product that doesn't make money. I would feel like such a cuck buying a card that should have already been refreshed to 24gb SUPER by now.
>>1091887789070xt is better and runs linux which is also better
>>109188778thats because for half the price you get 90% from a 5070ti
>>109188801They haven't been half the price for like 8 months. The lowest 5070 TI's are like 950, while decent ones are at least 1050. You are not EVER getting a GPU at MSRP past launch again.
>>109188810you can get the msi inspire 3x (best looking one imo) for 929 here
>>109188794the main reason why people are stuck on nvidia at that godawful price point is is because AMD gpus are only good for gaming but can't be used for other stuffAI workloads -> nvidia has CUDA for speedupEmulation (you'd be targeting a sw2 if that thing is EVER hacked, most notoriously with switch 1) -> on amd cards they had to be run on linux for max performance due to the shitty windows drivers3D rendering -> a bunch of renderers like houdini and octane are nvidia only
>>109188870>Emulation (you'd be targeting a sw2 if that thing is EVER hacked, most notoriously with switch 1) -> on amd cards they had to be run on linux for max performance due to the shitty windows driversthat was cemu
>>109188874it was also the case with sw1, though admittedly the sw1 was really weak so it didn't matter that much
>>109188879I have ryujinx and can confirm it runs like absolute ass on my 9070xt vs my old 3060
>>109188870>>109188879we need to start buying amd gpus for open source devs so we get better radeon support in emulators :(
>>109188891you just need to pressure amd to make actual drivers, there's no issue on linux because that has good drivers. it's not the hardware that's the problem
