Could it be that the actual problem with GrapheneOS is being completely ignored: the infrastructure?
>>109192639I mean, you can't prove whether the GrapheneOS devs are actually keeping their promise not to log user data, right?
>>109192716by that standard, then no alt o/s project can ever be considered uncompromised
>>109193114yes. we should reject blind belief.
>>109193114you can just not phone home
>>109193114You can bet on a project that makes money by providing you with services. You leave them, they are pissed off, beucause it's a loss of revenue.With graphene OS the only reason for it to exist is to betray your trust every second you trust it and use it. The most obvious honeypot.
>>109192639I'm still going to use it, tho
>>109192639You already got btfo'd in your previous thread, slOP
>>109193351All hail Daniel Micay, the holy guardian of sacred privacy, and eternal damnation upon the heretics who dare spread misinformation against the righteous GrapheneOS!
>>109193463wtf...is this the next step in being a groupie?
>>109192639There is a 99.9999999999999% chance that they are controlled/funded by government agencies.
>>109192639Another grapeheneOs demoralization thread made by feds
>>109193532And they're even reusing their AI comics
Glow niggers in shambles rnWeren't they only able to view Signal messages through the phone's notification cache?
This is what audits are for. It has likely been audited number of times already.
>>109192639The GrapheneOS hype is a big but still seems suspicious to me that:- Only available on the most botnetted phone (Pixel), even by hardware which is a Tensor chip- They refuse to support other devices (until now with Motorola partnership)- The logo literally tells you everything you need to know- Shilled hard on YT and redditAs for the phoning home, you can solve this with a firewall that acts as a VPN (many of those available on f-droid and play store) -- can't solve the baseband phoning home but at that point, leave your phone at home.It all comes down to what your threat model is. I'd say LineageOS is sufficient for most people's needs here> m-muh google pay doelol
>>109192716>install OS>install user simulator>log traffic>no traffic to sources other than the user simulator is hitting? no problemSeems trivial enough to implement for anyone that gives a shit. Why does no one give a shit?Curious.
>>109194944>shilled hardYou know what else is shilled hard on reddit? computers. STOP USING COMPUTERS ANON AAAAHHHHHH THE REDDITORS ARE FOOLING YOU.
>>109194944>The logo literally tells you everything you need to knowDamn I haven't used graphene only lineage but you're right. Never even really paid attention to it but fuck, why did they do that?
>>109192716Literally what are you talking about this makes absolutely no sense in any context
>responding to yourself
There is no reason to trust the Graphene devs. Whenever you ask them a simple question, they always respond with a wall of text. Anyone who answers with walls of text instead of speaking plainly is always hiding the truth.
>>109196253what about this?
>>109196636>Chrome Screenshot>AI>Irrelevant replyKek. You're dismissed.
>>109196663its still true.
>>109196683Like I said, you're dismissed since you used Chrome to take a screenshot of AI output which was totally irrelevant to the conversation and showed that you have literally no idea what you're talking about, or how even basic technology works. You can stop replying now.
>>109196663ThisChromeniggers don't need to be replied to
>>109192639>GrapheneOS demoralization>AI slopThis can't be even more obvious...
Could the Graphene developers deliberately send malicious updates to a specific user and thus specifically monitor certain devices?
>>109192639>unironic slop OPs are now realjust kill this website
>>109196663>>109196703KEK! Chromeanon btfoReminder that feds seethe at the mere existence of grapheneOS. This is just another demoralization thread.
>>109196746Yes, absolutely.If the developers push a targeted malicious update and simultaneously compromise the Auditor app (or the underlying hardware attestation mechanism), there are no technical safeguards left. Since they hold the cryptographic signing keys, they could design the malicious payload to spoof the hardware attestation, report a fake OS fingerprint, or simply force the Auditor app to display a "secure" status. In this scenario, the device would be completely and silently compromised. There would be no technical safety net, the user would be entirely defenseless, and security would rely solely on blind trust in the developers.
>>109196832>streisand effect made me read the entire reply chainnow I'm convinced you're intentionally trying to obscure correct information.
>>109192716I'd rather give my info to some unknown developers than to Google, who I know 100% will sell my data.
you'd think for being so privacy concious you guys would understand how to do a lil pcap and memory analysis.
>>109196966"What if" isn't "correct information"
why is graphene os so obsessed with combating "misinformation"?
The capital of the privacy industry is not technological, but ideological. The privacy industry's most valuable asset lies not in technology, but in the blind trust of its users.They cannot prove that their products actually do what they claim to do. They can only make promises. And users are forced to believe in these promises.That is why some projects, like GrapheneOS, fight such an obsessive battle against 'misinformation'. Because trust is their foundation. They cannot prove that their product actually works.
>the AI chrome poster just can't let it go
>>109197305Thanks Chromeposter
>>109197305>ddocsAdvertising
>>109197338t. posted from my google pixel via vanadium (chromium) while connecting to gstatic servers
>>109194944>- Only available on the most botnetted phone (Pixel), even by hardware which is a Tensor chipThe hw required isn't a tensor chip. If other phones had secure elements up to par Graphene could also be installed on them. Hence the Motorola collab. >- They refuse to support other devices (until now with Motorola partnership)See above.>- The logo literally tells you everything you need to knowBecause that's how Graphene looks. You're just as retarded as picrel>- Shilled hard on YT and redditMany youtubers cry about micay because he was mean once. I can't speak for reddit, you seem more fit. >>109196608>There is no reason to trust the Graphene devs.FOSS>They cannot prove that their products actually do what they claim to do.FOSS also wtf is ddocs?
>>109195130>>109194944>Hexagonal carbon allotrope structure le badThe absolute state of /g/ in 2026
Android 是给那些适应不良的穷人用的。
>>109197091spoken like a true cultist.
>>109197603>Many youtubersone. only one.
look up for criticism of graphene os on youtube. there is only ONE VIDEO in the results, the video by rossmann. the rest is pro graphene propaganda.
>>109197657I've seen Techlore (and also surveillance report when Nate was still involved) and rossmann directly cry about their interactions. Naomi Brockwell and Kenny both mentioned that he's psychologically unstable. That'd make 5. >>109197666>Phone poster
>>109196608>giving you a detailed response is "le suspicious"you have got to be the lowest caste Indian there is
>jeet got so assblasted his GOS FUD didn't stick he has to use ChatGPT to generate absolute bullshit he has so little proofTotal Micay victory. Cope and sneed, dalit.
>>109192639You can disable all services connecting to GOS servers including OTA updates. You should go back to "WhY Do yOu DeGoOgLe wITh GoOgLe pHoNe" talking point glowie.
>>109197561Thanks ChromePoster
>>109197666Thanks ChromePoster
>>109197793Just so were clear, you believe the OTA updates that are served to GrapheneOS somehow come from google servers?
>>109197793>You can disable all services connecting to GOS servers including OTA updateswhich will make your phone conpletely useless. you can't escape the machine.
>>109198001Please explain in detail how you think turning off updating automatically bricks your phone.
>>109198005Disabling GOS OTA updates won't brick your phone instantly. However, staying frozen in time leaves you vulnerable. Security bugs stay unpatched, apps crash due to outdated WebView, and strict Verified Boot will lock you out if malware alters system files.
>>109198047I'm glad we agree that your previous post was entirely fallacious and had no truth to it. I hope in the future you can avoid making statements that are just blatant lying.
graphene os users are too young to remember this.
>>109198001No, it's mostly just internet connectivity check and location services for faster GPS, phone is still usable without that and it counters faggot OP's claim that GrapheneOS servers are untrustworthy even though source code is provided for all these services.>>109198047You can still push updates via ADB.
>>109192639>use a google os that totally promises it isn't googlefucking retards
there is no reason to trust graphene devs. they control the servers and they log your data
>>109198359Thanks ChromePoster
>>109197091>I'd rather give my info to some unknown developers than to Google, who I know 100% will sell my data.google doesn't sell any data. advertisers ask for certain demographics and they pay google to reach to you. no one knows or cares what you do. please give ME all your data. i DO care about your saftey.
>>109196608But you guys do know these are incorrect usage of the term "honeypot"? Honeypots are meant to appear "sweet" and easy targets for criminals/malicious actors. CP/CSAM forums/decoys for pedos are the most common honeypots. For 733t h@xx0rs, a honeypot would be an apparently easy to hack site/device/network. Something with low effort and high reward, to tempt hackers. GrapheneOS is not that or trying to be that. > INB4: its a honeypot to attract fedsThen who is setting up the honeypot? Whats the plan? Catch feds targeting grapheneOS users, and then...then...what? You are trying to describe something completely removed from the term honeypot, so you are inaccurately using the term.
>>109197091You have no idea how google works
>>109196636>googles ai summary says graphene os is badshocking stuff
>>109194944> Only available on the most botnetted phone (Pixel), even by hardware which is a Tensor chip> They refuse to support other devices (until now with Motorola partnership)Growing up is realizing that you not liking Google doesn't negate their devices being the most secure of the bunch. No one has ever been able to prove that using that hardware with a different software stack is compromised in some way. You don't have to like Google, I don't like Google either, but their hardware was the appropriate choice and you have no idea what you are talking about.tl;dr - You don't think it be like it is, but it do.
what is the actual use case for graphene os?
>>109199376What is the use case for any phone OS?
>>109199376I use it because its debloated, simple and fast. I also like the privacy aspect
>>109199304Google also has created the most hardware supporting coreboot. It's clear the hardware and software teams at Google have different visions for how users should be treated.
>>109200357they may want the hardware for internal use, but they also sell it to offset the costs
>>109192639Okay, what prompted you retard bots so sow FUD about GrapheneOS? Does it work too well?>NOOO don't run the OS that makes play services option and runs it sandboxed!!!! G-Google gets your data anyway, so just give up! Whooo knows who the devs even are? With Google, you know they're trustworthy! The government says so!Fuck off.
I'm using it, and I like it.
I trust some random schizophrenic paranoid retard more than any corporationSimple as
>>109198488Yeah Google has a stronger business case not to sell your data, since they can directly monetize it without doing so. A 3rd party developer has to either serve you ads themselves or sell your data in order to monetize it.
>>109192639Isn't it completely open source though? I'm sure some true autists have gone through all the code and people have checked the outgoing connections.
>>109201626Yes its based off of AOSP but some pixel firmware isn't I think
