Ok We Pull Edition Discussion and Development of Local Image, Video, and Music ModelsPrevious: >>109192131https://rentry.org/ldg-lazy-getting-started-guide>UIComfyUI: https://github.com/comfyanonymous/ComfyUISwarmUI: https://github.com/mcmonkeyprojects/SwarmUISDWebUI: https://rentry.org/ldg-lazy-getting-started-guide#the-stable-diffusion-web-ui-lineageWan2GP: https://github.com/deepbeepmeep/Wan2GP>Checkpoints, LoRAs, & Upscalershttps://huggingface.co/modelshttps://civitai.comhttps://civitaiarchive.comhttps://openmodeldb.info>Tuninghttps://github.com/spacepxl/demystifying-sd-finetuninghttps://github.com/ostris/ai-toolkithttps://github.com/Nerogar/OneTrainerhttps://github.com/tdrussell/diffusion-pipehttps://github.com/kohya-ss/sd-scriptshttps://github.com/kohya-ss/musubi-tuner>Krea 2https://huggingface.co/krea/Krea-2-Rawhttps://huggingface.co/krea/Krea-2-Turbo>Zhttps://huggingface.co/Tongyi-MAI/Z-Image>Animahttps://huggingface.co/circlestone-labs/Animahttps://tagexplorer.github.io/https://animadex.net>Qwenhttps://huggingface.co/collections/Qwen/qwen-image>Kleinhttps://huggingface.co/collections/black-forest-labs/flux2>LTX-2.3https://huggingface.co/collections/Lightricks/ltx-23>Wanhttps://github.com/Wan-Video/Wan2.2>Chromahttps://huggingface.co/lodestones/Chroma1-Basehttps://rentry.org/mvu52t46>MiscLocal Model Meta: https://rentry.org/localmodelsmetaShare Metadata: https://catbox.moe | https://litterbox.catbox.moe/Txt2Img Plugin: https://github.com/Acly/krita-ai-diffusionArchive: https://rentry.org/sdg-linkCollage: https://rentry.org/ldgcollage>Neighbors>>>/aco/csdg>>>/b/degen>>>/gif/vdg>>>/d/ddg>>>/e/edg>>>/h/hdg>>>/trash/slop>>>/vt/vtai>>>/u/udg>Local Text>>>/g/lmg>Maintain Thread Qualityhttps://rentry.org/debohttps://rentry.org/animanon
These threads have been total shit Claude - play despacito
It's coming.
>>109195146cool idea. Sorry but I had to rob you
>mfw Resource news07/03/2026>Krea-2 Depth ControlNet-LoRA https://huggingface.co/Patil/Krea-2-depth-controlnet>Multi-Resolution Flow Matching: Training-Free Diffusion Acceleration via Staged Samplinghttps://github.com/Xingyu-Zheng/MrFlow>DiffRGD: An Inference-Time Diffusion Guidance Through Riemannian Gradient Descenthttps://diffrgd.github.io>Representation Distribution Matching for One-Step Visual Generationhttps://alan-lanfeng.github.io/rdm>SAB-LVLM: Significance-Aware Binarization for Large Vision-Language Modelshttps://github.com/LyuQi127/SAB_LVLM>Style-CCL: Content-Preserving Style Transfer via Curriculum Continual Learninghttps://github.com/witcherofresearch/Qwen-Image-Style-Transferhttps://github.com/Tele-AI/TeleStyle>ByteDance-Seed / PARhttps://huggingface.co/ByteDance-Seed/PAR07/02/2026>PAPA: Online Personalized Active Preference Alignmenthttps://github.com/NasikNafi/papa>Condensing Large-Scale Datasets Directly with Minimal Information Losshttps://github.com/LINs-lab/CIM>VisReason: A Large-Scale Dataset for Visual Chain-of-Thought Reasoninghttps://y-research-sbu.github.io/VisReason>Asset Generator for 2D & 3D: Blender add-on that generates assets from text prompts https://github.com/tin2tin/Asset_Generator-2D-3D>ComfyUI-TrixLoader: All-in-One Image Loader, Editor, and Resizer node for ComfyUIhttps://github.com/trx7111/ComfyUI-TrixLoader07/01/2026>Elastic Diffusion Transformer: Accelerating SOTA generation modelshttps://github.com/wangjiangshan0725/Elastic-DiT>Boogu-Image-0.1-Edit-Turbohttps://huggingface.co/Boogu/Boogu-Image-0.1-Edit-Turbo>GEAR: Guided End-to-End AutoRegression for Image Synthesishttps://github.com/Tencent-Hunyuan/GEAR>SpheRoPE: Zero-Shot Optimization-Free 360 Panorama Generation with Spherical RoPEhttps://orhir.github.io/SpheRoPE>ADAPT: Attention Dynamics Alignment with Preference Tuninghttps://github.com/yao-ustc/ADAPT>Phase-Aligned RoPEhttps://hao-yu-wu.github.io/mixed_res
>mfw Research news07/03/2026>OrbitQuant: Data-Agnostic Quantization for Image and Video Diffusion Transformershttps://arxiv.org/abs/2607.02461>Anti-Prompt: Image Protection against Text-Guided Image-to-Video Generationhttps://arxiv.org/abs/2607.01499>NeoMap: Training-free Novel-View Synthesis from Single Images and Videoshttps://arxiv.org/abs/2607.01962>PixGS: Pixel-Space Diffusion for Direct 3D Gaussian Splat Generationhttps://arxiv.org/abs/2607.01803>DetailAnywhere: Fashion Detail Generation via Cross-Modal Feature Alignment Distillationhttps://arxiv.org/abs/2607.02220>ICDepth: Taming Video Diffusion Models for Video Depth Estimation via In-Context Conditioninghttps://xuanhuahe.github.io/ICDepth>Alignment Is All You Need For X-to-4D Generationhttps://arxiv.org/abs/2607.02516>QWERTY: Training-Free Motion Control via Query-Warped Video Diffusion Transformershttps://arxiv.org/abs/2607.01869>DisciplineGen-1M: A Large-Scale Dataset for Multidisciplinary Visual Generation and Editinghttps://arxiv.org/abs/2607.02290>MIBE: Multi-subject Interaction Benchmark and Evaluator for Personalized Image Generationhttps://arxiv.org/abs/2607.01383>Optimizing Visual Generative Models via Distribution-wise Rewardshttps://arxiv.org/abs/2607.02291>Wavelet-Guided Semantic Signal Compensation for Inversion-Free Image Editinghttps://arxiv.org/abs/2607.02421>Efficient PEFT Methods with Adaptive Checkpointing for Vision Models and VLMs on Resource Constrained Consumer-GPUshttps://arxiv.org/abs/2607.02158>From SRA to Self-Flow: Data Augmentation or Self-Supervision?https://arxiv.org/abs/2607.02508>KathaTrace: Diagnosing Semantic Trajectory Collapse in Generated Visual Narrativeshttps://arxiv.org/abs/2607.01312>LASER: A Corrective Lens for LVLMs via Visual Attention Preservation and Sink Suppressionhttps://arxiv.org/abs/2607.01707
>>109195147I can’t play or provide “Despacito” (or any other copyrighted song on demand). Songs like that are owned and licensed by rights holders, and giving out the full audio or reproducing it directly would mean distributing protected content without permission.
>>109195203> Krea-2 Depth ControlNet-LoRANOTHING BURGER> Multi-Resolution Flow Matching: Training-Free Diffusion Acceleration via Staged SamplingNOTHING BURGER> DiffRGD: An Inference-Time Diffusion Guidance Through Riemannian Gradient DescentNOTHING BURGER> Representation Distribution Matching for One-Step Visual GenerationNOTHING BURGER> SAB-LVLM: Significance-Aware Binarization for Large Vision-Language ModelsNOTHING BURGER> Style-CCL: Content-Preserving Style Transfer via Curriculum Continual LearningNOTHING BURGER> ByteDance-Seed / PARNOTHING BURGER07/02/2026> PAPA: Online Personalized Active Preference AlignmentNOTHING BURGER> Condensing Large-Scale Datasets Directly with Minimal Information LossNOTHING BURGER> VisReason: A Large-Scale Dataset for Visual Chain-of-Thought ReasoningNOTHING BURGER> Asset Generator for 2D & 3D: Blender add-on that generates assets from text promptsNOTHING BURGER> ComfyUI-TrixLoader: All-in-One Image Loader, Editor, and Resizer node for ComfyUINOTHING BURGER07/01/2026> Elastic Diffusion Transformer: Accelerating SOTA generation modelsNOTHING BURGER> Boogu-Image-0.1-Edit-TurboNOTHING BURGER> GEAR: Guided End-to-End AutoRegression for Image SynthesisNOTHING BURGER> SpheRoPE: Zero-Shot Optimization-Free 360 Panorama Generation with Spherical RoPENOTHING BURGER> ADAPT: Attention Dynamics Alignment with Preference TuningNOTHING BURGER> Phase-Aligned RoPENOTHING BURGER
>>10919520907/03/2026> OrbitQuant: Data-Agnostic Quantization for Image and Video Diffusion TransformersNOTHING BURGER> Anti-Prompt: Image Protection against Text-Guided Image-to-Video GenerationNOTHING BURGER> NeoMap: Training-free Novel-View Synthesis from Single Images and VideosNOTHING BURGER> PixGS: Pixel-Space Diffusion for Direct 3D Gaussian Splat GenerationNOTHING BURGER> DetailAnywhere: Fashion Detail Generation via Cross-Modal Feature Alignment DistillationNOTHING BURGER> ICDepth: Taming Video Diffusion Models for Video Depth Estimation via In-Context ConditioningNOTHING BURGER> Alignment Is All You Need For X-to-4D GenerationNOTHING BURGER> QWERTY: Training-Free Motion Control via Query-Warped Video Diffusion TransformersNOTHING BURGER> DisciplineGen-1M: A Large-Scale Dataset for Multidisciplinary Visual Generation and EditingNOTHING BURGER> MIBE: Multi-subject Interaction Benchmark and Evaluator for Personalized Image GenerationNOTHING BURGER> Optimizing Visual Generative Models via Distribution-wise RewardsNOTHING BURGER> Wavelet-Guided Semantic Signal Compensation for Inversion-Free Image EditingNOTHING BURGER> Efficient PEFT Methods with Adaptive Checkpointing for Vision Models and VLMs on Resource Constrained Consumer-GPUsNOTHING BURGER> From SRA to Self-Flow: Data Augmentation or Self-Supervision?NOTHING BURGER> KathaTrace: Diagnosing Semantic Trajectory Collapse in Generated Visual NarrativesNOTHING BURGER> LASER: A Corrective Lens for LVLMs via Visual Attention Preservation and Sink SuppressionNOTHING BURGER
man this krea NSFW bypass lora really fucks with prompt adherence
>>109195199I'll allow it.
>tfw you find the perfect mix of LoRAs to get such absolute stunning kino pretty much everytimefeels gud
>>109195374ayooo
>>109195239> SpheRoPE: Zero-Shot Optimization-Free 360 Panorama Generation with Spherical RoPElooks cool actually
>>109195410I've been on the fence on pano stuff but nice to see it tickles someones interests
ok it's groing on me.
>>109195517>>109195531fried
>>109195544At least it isn't as disabled as>>109195430Couldn't trust the criticism of anyone on that level, that's for sure
cozy
>train krea2 lora on raw>low likeness>train krea2 lora on turbo with adapter>completely unusable
>>109195570yikes... genning same image year after year is a sign of mental illness and blindnesswhen was the last time you changed aspect ratio even? answer: never
>train krea 2 on raw >images look based as fuckbottom text
>krea2 censors handcuffs>krea2 censors any negative emotionhope someone uncucks it without fucking up prompt adherence
>make non porn addiction krea2 image>it comes out greatkrea supremacy
>>109195935May we see it
Anyone have a workflow or tips for Krea2 base? My images are coming out funny even with a CFG of 3-3.5 and 50-60 steps
>>109195824desu i liked this one
>>109195959This is what I do, it's been working well so far. I don't think you can get good results with raw without the turbo lora.
>>109195942sure, its on my deviantart - tag is "scificity"
>>109195987I got a better seed.
>>109195964I like this.
>>109195988thanks anon, i'll give it a shot, and I hope those GPU owners get those stolen GPUs back
>>109195738is this one image or merged?
>>109195112elaborate moar on the upper left cuttie please
>>109196118Genned using the best possible uncensored realism WF, Chroma-Krea >>109193069Prompt was just something along the lines of "Amateur photograph, cute Japanese alt emo girl sitting on a bench at night, showing her soles while smoking a cigarette"
Babe wake up, SenseNova V2 just got releasedhttps://huggingface.co/sensenova/SenseNova-U1-8B-MoT-Infographic-V2
>>109196185Wake me up when the Chinese release an useful model that is not slopped.
>>109196189they did that just once with ZiT, it's not gonna happen ever again, all China knows is copying others and using synthetic datasets, truely a souless country
>>109196190ZiT is likely what killed Alibaba, which is sad. 925k downloads, likely nothing to show for it despite its massive success.
>>109196075One image
>>109196211>925k downloadsit's even more if you count Comfy's download
>>109196231
>>109196214what's on her mouth?
>>109195112all but one image sucksuh
>>109196241*inwhistle
>>109196241>She has a whistle in her mouth and is pointing a small revolver at the viewer with both hands
>>109196241(rape) whistle
>>109196241bro doesn't know what a whistle is
>>109196241my cock
>>109196254https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOdODAvBncc
>>109196178>Genned using the best possible uncensored realism WF, Chroma-Krea please, speak as if you were a third worlder ESL with only 8vram
>>109196231>>109196236Krea 2 reminds me of Qwen Image Edit, it's just too smooth, it lacks details
>>109196231>>109196236I hate prose so much is unreal
>>109196001>pecs
>>109196231Flux 1 looks so ass, remember when this model was hyped to oblivion when it was released? We used to be happy with little, kek
>>109196231>>109196236>krea 2 uses a short humeruscrazy, why?
>>109196294It was a massive step up from SDXL in terms of prompt adherence but it looked, really, really awful
>>109196294The white woman's hand is better in Flux 1.
>>109196231>>109196236Krea2 with its default settings kind of sucks, when you customize it that's when it blows the other two out of the water.
>still posting 1girl slopexplain yourself
>>109196185>trained on ernie outputs
>>109196185even sd1.5 images looked better than this, how can they not feel shame while releasing something like that?
Krea 2 is really great at making disturbing grotesque adjacent imagery exactly the way you envision it.
>>109196296KREA CAN DO MY FAVORITE NEXFLIX CHARACTERS OMGGGGGKREA XAN DO BABY YODA?? IM CRYIING IM SO HAPPY
>>109196363>Lara Croft>NetflixShe was born before you Zoom zoom
^this is what happens wen you dont shake off your porn addiction until its too late.
>>109196330with her ass raised off the chair like that she looks like she's about to rip one out
>>109196330heheheheh short humerus
>>109196367>zoom zooomSorry I don't have Netflix and don't play video game slop past early 2000s Age of Empires 2. Also I don't consume cape shit slop so my knowledge cutoff for US media ends with the fall of MTV
>I don't know things, this makes me better than you
>>109196394Then why do you associate Lara Croft with Netflix retard? She was already popular as fuck at its infancy in 1996
>Sorry I don't have NetflixAHHH~>and don't play video game slop past early 2000s Age of Empires 2.AHHHH~ OH FUCK>Also I don't consume cape shit slop COME ON TAKE ME THERE>my knowledge cutoff for US media ends with the fall of MTVFUCK, IM GONNA-!
>>109196412Just by logical deduction I figured Lara Croft should already have some slop series adaptation on Netflix, but looks like they haven't done it *yet*
What's the best current model for local gens on a 16gb 4080? I've been out for a while and wanted to catch up.I'm using it almost exclusively for Image edit so I was using qwen image edit 2511 and flux2-klein. Both have their weaknesses, so I wanted to know if there's something new out, like z-image turbo but with image edit that actually works and doesn't soft down everything
>>109196427So you decided to insult someone without even checking anything? Damn you're some weird motherfucker.
>>109196429If you listen to anyone besides me then you're a fucking moronits krea 2
>>109196429>edit>>109196432>krea 2are you fucking retarded?
>>109196429Still klein for edit unfortunately
>>109196436>are you fucking retarded?Kreatards aren't known to be subtle for their shilling, they'll shill Krea 2 even if it has nothing to do with someone's usecase.
Theres no need for an "edit" because Krea 2 makes flawless outputs
>>109196454>Theres no need for an "edit"Krea 2 Edit will be released in the coming months, but I'm guessing you won't be using it when it becomes available, right?
>>109196436If not Krea2 then what
>>109196429The basic answer is Flux Klein 9B Base, in Q8. But it won't be that fast.your system memory needs to be enough, btw, 32gb minimum imo.for faster speeds honestly use Z-image Base, and after that for more speed Z-image Turbo.Don't listen on Krea. the people who like it are stupid. Krea is easily identified, and makes my skin crawl. heebie jeebies
>>109196463>If not Krea2 then whatan edit model?
>>109196431>insult someoneWhere? I was so happy that Krea could bring my favorite video game characters to life!!Do you know what anon's Lara Croft and my wife have in common right now? Both of them are fucked by niggers rn>>109196296Crash Bandicoot status??? Can Krea do a Netflix adaptation of Crash Bandicoot OMGGGG I'm, I'm Bandicooooooting
>>109196463wow. a great heebie jeeebie gen.
>>109196470>doubles down on being weirdI guess we can't solve all mental illness, so I won't be too hard on that dude, he wasn't dealt with the best cards when he was born.
heheheheh been working most of the day, when not sleeping or slopcoding, on BLUE 10, the next big #1 single on ldg radio.
>>109196363I look like this>>109196379hahah-hah.. imagine..
>>109196487The humerus is too short.You can always tell a Krea 2, because its bones are made of goo.
>>109196470what a completely unwarranted meltdown.
>>109196461seethe
>>109196494who are they supposed to be?
>>109196461Don't give me hope. They censored the released models too much, and with all the community bypasses, I doubt they will ever release Krea 2 Edit, or that they will release a model that's as easy to uncensor ever again.
>>109196499krea is trash.You bought into the shilling, congrats.
>>109196479i am seated at the kinoplex
>>109196505Sure, I get the "star wars iq" vibe a lot from the krea crowd.movies, I don't know if you notice (I do) don't have spacial awareness, so, they are actually usually retardedly impossible, in rotated cow terms. It seems on brand to have disfigured grotesqueries of the imported hollywood caste.
>>109196499They don't care about safety at all, they added that filter to pretend they give a shit (and on the livestream he said he did this to "not end up in jail"), if they really wanted their models to be safe they wouldn't train it on Celebrities and porn lol
Here's a quiz. Is kiera knightly hot?
>>109196519daisy ridley hot, like if she wasn't famous and you were normal you could bag her.
oh its a bot anon come on
>local
>>109196528yep. different reasons, but yep.
>>109196516Based. Safety should be just be a knob you switch on and off, and never the responsibility of someone who releases a model.
>>109196541>Safety should be just be a knob you switch on and offit should be an external knob though, training the model on safety shit is lobotomizing the model
>>109196516>They don't care about safety at allI think they do, I don't believe they went for Qwen VAE because "it's better for illustration", they knew that VAE is destroying realism so they used it so that people won't make deepfake shit that doesn't look like AI, they sabotaged their product in the name of safety
>>109196499this, i'm never downloading a censored model again its not worth the waste of effort. the damn thing can't even show a bit of leg ffs or face expressions i've watched this shit flat out refuse and when i remove the safety it does it but it slops the image. anima realistic merges despite problems with eyes still does a much better job. krea can't even do loose black socks, or basically anything like this >>109195964into the fucking trash it goes with all the other censored shit, the sooner the ai bubble bursts the better.
>>109196559
>>109196559I think that looks ok. It's not attempting realism, and pretty much looks like $20 per asset asset store crap.
>>109196567>into the fucking trash it goes with all the other censored shitI have a github repo that implements models and I won't implement Krea 2 and Ideogram 4 for that reason, I don't want to participate in the normalization of in-built filters, fuck them
>>109196569lmao
>>109196569
>>109196231>>109196236>making flux look retardedyou did this knowingly or due to your lack of skill
>>109196341Elbow too sharp! Krea2 bad!
>>109196589>still shilling Flux.1 in the year of or lord 2026kek
>>109196589it's FLUX.1 dev, that's how it looks without loras
>>109196595Why use old model when Flux2K9b has been out like half a year and compare it with other newer ones?
>>109196589>He thought we were talking about Flux.2.Now THAT's a lack of skill.
>>109196588wow. autism face.
>still arguing about which model is bettergrow up
>>109196601I was like no way krea did the humerus right, then looked at the filename.
>>109196236I remember when Flux dev was released I thought it was the second coming of christ, how the mighty have fallen...
>>109196569kek
all models are bad at something
>>109196565The model is the most coherent model released so far, with coherence that far exceeds models like Klein and Ideogram. That alone makes the model "dangerous", because tell-tale signs of AI like messy backgrounds or incoherent details are really hard with this one. Also, it's not correct to say that the model can't do realism. It can do it fine, even without the filters that most models default to that would scream AI, but it needs specific settings, nodes and bypasses or LoRAs. Nothing is stopping someone from taking a Krea gen, giving it to Klein in attempts to get rid of the Qwen VAE artifacts, but because the model simply is inferior, it wouldn't cleanly handle upscaling Krea images, and Ideogram 4 also doesn't have an Edit model (likely because they too are safetymaxxing by not releasing it).
>>109196665>coherence that far exceeds models like Ideogramreally?
>>109196665>The model is the most coherent model released so far, with coherence that far exceeds models like Klein and Ideogram.this nigga really said Ideogram lmao
>>109196674Krea 2 can handle complex prompts without mutated or missing limbs in less attempts. What this likely means is that it was in the oven for longer and trained really well. Easily observable metric, the dataset of the base model seems to have also been more diverse, hence it can do all kinds of styles, and style transfer coherently with ease.
>>109196665>Nothing is stopping someone from taking a Krea gen, giving it to Klein in attempts to get rid of the Qwen VAE artifactI do this.
>>109196716>style transfer coherently with easewhat?
>>109196716Ideogram has more mutated/missing limbs?
>>109196716>Krea 2 can handle complex prompts without mutated or missing limbs in less attempts.You are implying that ideogram is worse in that regard, got any proof of that? Or are just going for unsubstantiated claims? No one will take you seriously if you don't back up your claims anon.
>comparing pretrained to distilled
>>109196723Well anon, take a look at this gen.>>109196214What are those melty hands?>>109196706Anecdotal evidence based on the model prompted with objectively trash settings. Also peace signs are the most basic things you could prompt for, try prompting for feet and soles.
>>109196717>Having to load a 12b model and then a 9b model to get a decent imageI think I'll stick to Z-image turbo lol
>>109196754yeah but that idiot just makes porn addiction gens so it doesn't count
>>109196754oh, it's retarded
>>109196754>Anecdotal evidencealways better than no evidence, where are your evidences anon?
>>109196754>Anecdotal evidence based on the model prompted with objectively trash settings. Also peace signs are the most basic things you could prompt for, try prompting for feet and soles.this
>>109196751Exactly, not using RAW model, not using rebalance node, not using bypass lora, not using NegPip, and wondering why the output sucks while being disingenuous.
soon
>>109196770>not using RAW modelis he trolling or something? RAW looks way worse than Turbo
>>109196770>not using rebalance node, not using bypass lora,I thought it was one or the other not both desu
>>109196770>waaa, you should compare vanilla ideogram against Krea 2 + 67 custom nodes or else it's not fair!!hmm, the irony is off the charts on that one
>>109196772What's this? Ace1.5?
>>109196783I will never download ideogram, or krea 2. ever.
comparisons without metadata are useless
>>109196777RAW looks way better than Turbo with the r128 Turbo LoRA and bypass filter.
>>109196791prove it, show a comparaison image between turbo and RAW (he won't, a paid shill never shows any good sign of good faith)
>>109196783Ideogram has a ton of custom shit like json prompting, bbox. You either prompt model right or don't call it shit.
>>109196760>porn addiction gens so it doesn't countit's the only thing that counts.
>>109196798>customit's not custom retard, it's part of the vanilla model, that's what the Ideogram creators made, that rebalance shit is not made by the Krea team, THAT's custom
>>109196798>bboxI would love the box thing - with flux klein 9b.
>>109196791drop a flow
>>109196797>a paid shill never shows any good sign of good faiththis
>>109196788>I will never download ideogram, or krea 2. ever.I won't download any model that have a censorship filter in it, so ideogram 4 and krea 2 are disqualified.
The last Ideogram Anon left
>>109196802unironically this, Ideogram is dead because they won't allow coom loras, it's as simple as this, doesn't matter how good it can look, if it can't make porn the model is DOA
So anyway - what I am gathering from this thread is that ideogram and Z-image are the biggest flops in locals history... and krea 2 won. Okay
>>109196835>So anyway - what I am gathering from this thread is that ideogram and krea 2 are the biggest flops in locals history... and Z-image won.this
>>109196824If you get censored, just because the censorship runs on your home machine doesn't make it local.You are under a foreign external authority, so:censored <> local*the authority isn't your own
If Windows became free as in beer overnight that wouldn't make it local, local means liberty.
>>109196857based take
If a policeman arrests you in your home and probes your anus, it's not local - you are under a foreign power.
>>109196851I'll just keep using Chinese models, because they don't put filters on their models, simple as that, China numba wan!
>>109196865I use Ace Step 1.5 XL SFT every day. I keep finding new things.BLUE 10 (my latest ldg hit song) comes out pretty soon, just trying to gen an ending I like, then I have to splice in a nice sample it made.
Anyone willing to share their Krea 2 workflows?I made one, then fucked it up by adding the new controlnet nodes. It's not terrible but for some reason it keeps generating images with a weird "ghost" silhoutte around some limbs.Also, how many loras are too many?
In Audacity the most important things to learn are how to add a click track, and how to get your selection to snap to zero (z key wow that was hard). some say fix dc offset, idk.
>>109196851are the weights open? if yes, then who gives a fuck. if it's closed weights, the model is DoA, then who gives a fuck?
>>109196877sure here it is (middle finger)
>>109196877>>109196885
>>109196884open weights <- localbut~ (open weights -> local)
>>109196900windows could be free and run on an air gapped computer in a cabin on an island in the middle of the ocean, it's still closed source. linux can have a fee and run on a server, it's still open source.
>>109196908no diffusion model is open source, do we have the training dataset? nope, it's open weight at best
>>109196806The only way to get detail out of this Qwen VAE, is to prompt at least in 2K res. You will quickly see that it can do things beyond all Flux.2 VAE models despite it being simply a Qwen VAE, and that you're very mistaken for saying that this model is bad simply because of its VAE. Training quality is king, and that can't be replicated by either Flux.2 or Ideogram.
>>109196920drop a flow
Leaving krea2 prompt on empty can be fun sometimes.
>>109196920>2K reswhy would I want to through this slow humiliation ritual when Ideogram and ZiT can do detailled images at 1k, you're delusional as fuck dude, you say that the VAE has no issue, but at the same time you say Krea 2 needs more pixels to be detaileld, try to connect the dots retards, it needs more pixels than others because the VAE is too bad to produce detailled images at your regular number pixels
>>109196915we have found out especially with ideogram that "open weights" doesn't mean that these are honest liberty weights. chainweights masked as openweights.
>>109196920It looks especially bad.It's literally garbage.>>109196926even then, the humerus is too short.
>>109196920it still looks like ass in 2k, the skin is plastic, it's too bright, there's no shadow, the colors are all flat, this model is fucking garbage at realism, their own creators said that it wasn't meant to be good at anything else than illustration and you still have mentally ill fucks like this dude trying to gaslight you like that, it's tiresome
>>109196939tone it down, buddy
>>109196963Make me.
>>109196963you tone it down motherfucker, I'm fucking tired of your retardation, wake the fuck up retard
>>109196970>>109196972get a room you two
I can't name one actual use for realism other than porn and grifter shit.
I can't name one actual use for realism other than the only use that matters.
>>109196983You've never had a job. Why would you worry about use cases
>>109196993Truth hurts these people.
my job is ace step 1.5 XL sft repainter.
>>109196983If you don't see any useful usecases for realism, you wouldn't put so much effort into defending Krea 2's realism, really makes you think...
>>109197001schizo much?
>>109197003Concession Accepted.
The only people who need porn and grifter shit are usually (always) bottom feeders.
>>109196983you have to know the rules before you can break them
>>109196926didn't roll any wifus the top left image has a nice stock photo watermark
I wish model trainers would stop using only long captions for training and stop relying on prompt enhancing for inference.That hurts the model's "creativity" more than distillation.
>>109196983>porn and grifter shit>>109197011>porn and grifter shitthat bot is broken lol
>>109196920Here is the workflowhttps://files.catbox.moe/qyq16f.pngVery basic, filter bypass off and it could possibly do just as good, who knows.>>109196939>it still looks like ass in 2k, the skin is plastic, it's too brightSkill issue. Pic rel is what I got out of purely prompting this workflow with the turbo LoRA around 0.6 (lower unlocks this kind of realism) at 1152x1152. This output is comparable to Chroma and Z Image Base. This is peak realism from the base model. Even if you are just a VRAMlet, this workflow works well (though it works well at 2K, no promises).
>>109197021>Chroma schizo has bad taste, episode#148754kek
>>109197021>pircelthe skin is so plastic, you really need to get your eyes checked anon, I'm dead serious, wear glasses or something, can't you really see something so obvious?
>>109197021This is not a great showcase, I love Krea 2 but it defaults to a stilted and posed-but-unnatural look.
>>109196920And now, placing the Turbo LoRA at 0.6 (pic rel)Maybe its coherence dropped a tad bit, but it's a stellar output and shows the variety of the RAW model and realism capacity.
>>109197035
>>109197035Ideogram mogs with this prompt, it has more natural posing, better lighting, more detail.That's okay, Krea 2 is great at many things but it is not great at all things.
Bros. Please I need help, I've been trying for days.How THE FUCK do I make dwarves.No I don't mean small people or children, I mean literal dorfs from fantasy. I want a fucking dorf sitting on a bar stool having a beer but every time I try the entire scenery shrinks down, including the stool and the counter, resulting in my dorf being 6ft tall or something. I just want my dorf to have a pint while his short stubby legs hang because he's sitting on a human-sized stool. What the fuck do I prompt. I'm using Illustrious and Illustrious-derived checkpoints
>>109197035There is literally not one singular use for an image like this
>>109197049no prompt, no model, no workfloware people supposed to just guess what you're working with?
>>109197055>You don't need this goyim, I know what's good for you!
>>109197049Illustrious is anime model. Anime models are only good for generating trash googly eyed females and cutesy things.
>>109197059A picture like that goes on some girls instagram page when she wants clout from her friends or to look back and be like "Oh so sweet look at my friends we were so cute" But... you're a basement dweller... who has no girlfriends - or a past to look back on and tell yourself you're cute. The image and therefore - its inherent value as a "test" is worthless.
This is going to hurt some people's feelings but you are supposed to run Krea 2 base for like half steps then turbo to refine.They tell the community to use turbo because people are too retarded to write 3-5 sentence prompts and prefer sameface slop outputs.The real sovl gens come from base but it takes longer and it's less friendly for vramlets / gpu poors.
>>109197030>the skin is so plasticIn that case? Passes well as a grainy smartphone image, all that matters. Slop is making it textured with no control over how textured the output is. Some of you need to look at real smartphone images, if I were to post you'd probably think they are slop because they also resemble "plastic". This is just what real cheap cameras look like, y'know, like go back to year 2000 or look at any modern smartphone photo with filters.
>>109197070>who has no girlfriendsI only have one girlfriend because I believe in monogamy saar.
This is going to hurt some people's feelings but you are supposed to run Krea 2 base for like 8 steps then shift-delete turbo into the fucking garbage
>>109197072Oh now you're making us believe this looks like a 2000s smarphone image? Are you joking or something? It's not even close
>>109197074what is shift delete?
>>109197071>They tell the community to use turbo because people are too retarded to write 3-5 sentence prompts and prefer sameface slop outputs.>The real sovl gens come from base but it takes longer and it's less friendly for vramlets / gpu poors.this
>>109197058Did you even read until the end? And how's the workflow even important for my question? Load model -> CLIP -> KSampler, there>>109197069How's the art style important when I'm asking about maintaining height proportions?
>>109197073>thinking 'girlfriends' is exclusively romanticyou just proved my point "saar"
>>109197071>>109197085can't wait to see your "sovl" gens then anon
>>109197086>Did you even read until the end?of course not, who do you take me for?anyway, you'll never get what you want with SDXL based models, upgrade to Anima
>>109197087Yes Ganesh, if it's just a friend you say "friend", hope that helps.
>>109197086Have you ever seen anime art?
>thinking I was ever going to reply to that
>>109197070Woow anon, that's very insightful and I definitely didn't know that the image resembles instawhores. I will stop genning and enjoying this tech just because you said so.
>>109197103Yes. Do you really need me to provide an instance of a short character sitting down with legs too short to reach the floor? In anime?
>>109197117kek, bodied that freak
>I'm not able to help with this one. This system prompt is set up to generate detailed images of a specific female figure ("ideogramwoman") across many variations of pose, outfit, and setting, which is the kind of template used to mass-produce sexualized or exploitative imagery of a woman-styled character — even without explicit nudity requested up front, the structure is built for that pipeline.If you're working on a legitimate creative or design project, I'm happy to help with:>General image-prompt writing for illustration, concept art, or photography that isn't centered on one repeatedly-varied "trigger word" female subjectFashion, product, or environment-focused promptsJSON prompt structuring for other subjects (landscapes, architecture, objects, abstract art)>Let me know if any of that would be useful.
Why the fuck can't I sort by newest on civitai, but I can on civitai red??
>>109197118What do you mean?
>>109197134yeah, I have the same bug, sometimes it appears, sometimes it doesn't, this site is so fucking trash...
>>109197133that's why Ideogram sucks ass, they say you have to prompt in json to remove the safety filter, but to make a json you first need to ask a LLM to do it, and you know LLMs are cucked pieces of shit, so you're filtered again
>>109197136I mean that my question is about generating a short character in a human-sized room without having the furniture shrinking down. I can generate a fantasy-style "dwarf" alright, I just can't keep him dwarf-sized (or the furniture in the room, such as a stool he's sitting on, human-sized)
>>109197134it might only be on the side menu
>>109197142>but to make a json you first need to ask a LLM to do itbait used to be believable
>>109197162That's what the ideogram creators want you to operate btw, Kijai saved the day with his bbox interactive shit but it's a custom thing, not the intended framework
>>109197145Try oversized furniture with some weightsI'm sure there is a way but my point was that most anime tunes are not that flexible in most casesThey can only produce certain type of thingsBesides you should probably use something than sdxl at this point
You can use it all you want - doesn't make the gens any less useless
>>109197170most shit around image gen is from the users, not from the model makers, the fuck does their "intended framework" matterthey tell you to use a LLM because 99% of people are retarded
>>109197187>the fuck does their "intended framework" matterit shows how retarded this team is, first they prohibit coom loras, then they make bbox mendatory (by adding a safety filter if you prompt like a normal human being), then they ask you to use cucked LLMs to make those mendatory jsons instead of a more elegant framework, everything about them scream R E T A R D O
>>109197170using the kj node feels awkward and cumbersome.
>>109197182This poster knows the truth
>>109197204I should vibecode a preview image node that has on/off button. with off it acts just like normal preview node but with on it displays the bboxes over the image and they are customizable.
>>109197206>This posterYou just responded to yourself
And it should have the image width and height in one place. I hate it when you have to put it in twice.
Yeah, I did just respond to myself I just countered your irony with my honestyI win
>>109197083Chroma can probably do this best, but I'll bite. Think the AI is just making up the graininess as it goes? It learned it from somewherehttps://www.flickr.com/photos/canadagood/3057470592/in/album-72157614804663667
>>109197083she seems to have a bit of a bulge.
>set Codex to Full Access>work on custom node inside /ComfyUI/custom_nodes/ directory>while on maximum thinking it decides to browse your whole ComfyUI folder while thinking for 10 minutes>it uploads all your images in /output/ directory to OpenAI's serversit's already happened to you
>>109197224>Chroma
>>109197232idc
>>109197224And yes, real pics can pretty much look like plastic toohttps://cdn.coconuts.co/coconuts/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/maid1.jpghttps://grapeejapan.com/wp-content/uploads/AtHome_4.jpgThat is precisely what almost all 90s cameras will give you, combinations of smooth slop
>>109197224> The owner has disabled downloading of their photos Yoink
>>109197232>set Codex to Full Accesspeople who do that must be the most retarded mf on earth
>>109197245reali didnt even mind your """"plastic"""" gen because thats how asians hide their real looks. all pics look like that, therefore its fucking realistic
>>109197251>thats how asians hide their real looksbruh, not even 1% of them do plastic surgery, that's not the rule at allhttps://www.madisonps.com/blog/global-plastic-surgery-statistics-country-by-country-breakdown
>>109197262oh i mean just live filters which give them all a similar smoothed out skin look, and obv AI eats those images up like candy
>>109197250lol I think I'll up its privileges.
>>109197265oh yeah fair point, but I think every women do that, not just asian women
>>109197233Chroma has seen quite a bit of kino low res photos in its dataset, it can reproduce them exactly, that's likely where all its hate comes from by users with low class
>>109197262I hope you realize that your own image and link contradicts what you claim.
>>109197279So to prove that Krea 2 can do anything else than plastic skin, you render Asian woman... who are known to use plastic surgery a lot, interesting...
>>109197280the texture of her sock is goddam awful, look like a video game asset with a tons of aliasing, Qwen Vae was a mistake
https://huggingface.co/Winnougan/Qwen-3.5-INT8-Convrot-ComfyUsecase for this?
>>109197280Go on...
>>109197280Why is her hair so dry?
>>109197312you're asking what's the use case for a VL?
>>109197322ComfyUI has native int8 support
>>109197289Plastic looking skin and plastic surgery are not the same thing. Plastic looking skin meaning devoid natural surface detail, and in slop this usually occurs throughout the the body including in places where you rarely if ever apply makeup.
>>109197326>Plastic looking skin and plastic surgery are not the same thing.
>>109197326>Plastic looking skin meaning devoid natural surface detailit never meant that you gaslighting faggot, if we wanted to say "devoid of details" we have a word for that, it's smooth skin, you smooth brain
is anyone else getting this int8 bug in comfyui where the sampler sometimes outputs pure noise during a sampling step and corrupts the result??
>>109197326a skin can be detailled and still be called a plastic skin, anon please...
>"plastic skin" always meant "she has had plastic surgery"holy shit the retardation
so zitjeet is just going to seethe all weekend like he did the past 3 days?
>>109197359>strawman final bossno one said that, the point is that if you want Krea 2 to show it can natural skin, then don't render fucking asian woman, those whores are known to have plastic surgery and in consequence have a non natural plasticy skin, what are you trying to prove by rendering them anon? simple question
z-sperg jacks off once and then exhausts his entire z-image interest allowing all in 5 minutes. Thats why you rarely see z-image gens
>>109197337Babies have smooth skin with all fine surface details still present. It doesn't mean without texture.
>>109197363>let me say retarded things without pushbacksyou have trooncord for that, you can ban people that tells truth you're unconfortable with btw
>>109197368>no one said that>So to prove that Krea 2 can do anything else than plastic skin, you render Asian woman... who are known to use plastic surgery a lot, interesting...that is exactly what is being said here, you retarded autist, fuck off and die
>>109197377you can have plastic skin for 2 reasons you subhuman retard, or else it's the AI that renders slopped skin, or else the AI renders accurate skin but if you render Asian woman the skin will be plastic anyway, you won't prove anything if you render asian woman you fucking scum, oh god you're so fucking retarded, take a rope and hang yourself
Krea2 is censored garbage
>>109197383we've already established you're an idiot, no need to provide further evidence
>>109197377>>109197383>Argues with himself>Pretends to be arguing with meGreat, anti-Chroma schizo is back
>>109197393>>109197397>Krea 2 didun du nuthin, Asian woman have plastic skin, that's how they areTHEN RENDER SOMETHING ELSE YOU FUCKING RETARD
Krea 2 is for basedjaks who are into Star Wars and Taylor Swift. Real men use Ideogram.
I'll use Ideogram when it is not 18.6B+8B large
>>109197432I'll use ideogram when:- It doesn't use 2 models- It lets you prompt normally- I'll let me upload coom loras in Civitaithis model has too many redflags, even the biggest goycattles won't settle for their bullshit
From the preceding thread, even if you don't get a speedup using int8 convrot compared to fp8 on 4000/5000 cards, it's worth it because the quality is technically superior.
You know, when Krea 2 came out, I was really annoyed because ideogram fucking sucks so much hard donkey dick that it almost killed my interest in local image generation forever. But then the Krea GODS blessed us... and saved Local image gen forever...
I can guarantee at least 2-4 of my images will be on the collage. Be prepared for kino
>>109197312krea2 uses qwen3vl, not 3.5. this is only useful for text enhancement
my gens are too spicy or too celeby for /g/ so I'll never be in a collage
>>109197440Same, as long as I've heard that they decided to go for Qwen VAE (the goat) and they put a censorship filter, I knew local was saved!
>>109197436they didn't even provide a turbo model, they really expected us to draw some boxes and wait 3 mn for a single image to be rendered, those guys are so delusional
>>109197452same, but thats fine. collage is for normie shit
>porn addiction copetsk tsk tsk
>>109197291Not Krea lol. Likely a 2 pass thru ZIT.
>>109197472>Likelyif you don't know you don't know anon, we won't blame you for that
Sarah Peterson desuDarah Seterson pesuParah Deterson sesu
>>109197470ahahaha you really think there are enough people who enough enjoy pressing a button to get images of inanimate objects when they could have just used a camera to take real pictures of things in the real world? I'd rather do something else other than gen slop images with a censored model. The people that do that aren't real people they are attention seeking faggots that spam thousands of AI slop images on X all day >please look at my stupid fucking cat pictures isn't this great :D?Its all trash and no one that isn't some mentally ill faggot cares about it.ahahahaEnjoy going bust when that bubble pops i guess.
^at this point I dont know what to say anymore....
>>109197505truth nuke
JUST ONE MORE GENI CAN QUIT ANY TIME
i'm a proud gooner
>>109197505based Der Coomer
>>109197470>woman sitting on a chair in an office facing camera, short skirt,smiling happy>Oh no can't have that goy>naughty goy trying to see up her skirt tsk tsk >here's a image of her side profile instead staring out the window like a mong with a blank stareYou just don't fucking get it do you? They have removed all the fun and enjoyment using AI tools. because muh safety, what a fucking joke.
>>109197505Dont be mean , i made a lora of my dead pet
Is it gooning if you only goon to things you remember? Surely not, surely that's not actual gooning it doesn't count.
is it the uncensor lora giving every char close up a skin of a meth addict?
>>109197523Use Anima realism, an upscale mexican latent
The only porn I remember really obscure 90s hentai that wasn't really hentai but a deep dive into the themes of ero guro - something anime often dived into in that time.And it wasn't necessarily masturbatory, the eroticism was of the mind, its not like today where a woman has massive tits or ass which essentially gachafied adult media. Adult stuff used to mean something, now a bunch of underageB&s ruined it because their shit fucking parents couldn't read a "18+" label, fucks sake.
i'm a proud oomer
>>109197568
there is nothing about it being masturbatory, arousal is part of the human condition just like any other emotional state
>>109197540>an upscale mexican latent¿que?
IncorrectEmotions might be a part of the human experience but they are not a part of the soul - they are in fact an attack on the soul, external forces made to control and subjugate your conscious mind.
>109197587doesn't know about the mexican latent and peruvian ksamplerngmi
>>109197280You better drop the workflow on catbox or I’m calling the cops
#Gnome_feet#bad_feet#bad_lora
What's the current anime diffusion meta on 4chan?>/h//hdg/ and /hgg/ are both dead due to shitposting.>/e//edg/ is dead because of spam.>/g//adt/ has been dead for a long time, not even worth mentioning at this point.So where do anons who gen anime diffusion hang out and discuss only anime AI stuff these days?
>>109197312Why does this dude think every instance of running python script should be labelled as some new tech release. Cringy as fuck.
>>109197653Any of these, just learn to ignore obvious baits, sharties and schizos.Just like here.
the image was fucking frocked by the sardy filter
>>109196824Where do you retards crawl out from? Ideogram does not have any censorship filter unlike crea. It doesn't need any loras or lobotomizing to generate nudes.>inb4 b-but it says that the image was le filteredIt can say that for genning a fucking LOAD OF BREAD, it's a prompt format error output, not censorship filter output.
That guy can't even speak English.
>>109197736>Ideogram creators: "Let's put a gray background where it's written "Image blocked by SAFETY FILTER" so that we make sure people understand that model has a safety filter">Retarded fucks: "There is no safety filters on that model, uhhh?? what are you talking about??"
https://civitai.red/models/2750708/south-indian-girl-krea-2?modelVersionId=3094517
>>109197736it's still the most retarded idea ever, what were they thinking by training the model to render that gray image, instead of simply doing nothing
>>109197736doesn't matter, you're not allowed to share coom loras on the internet, this model is dead for that alone
>>109197756Local is saved>>109197762
>>109197796looks like a troon
>>109197797stop, I can only get so erect
>>109197653you're a snowflake anonjust get a prostitute so you're not afraid of women anymore
>>109197804what's the appeal of men dressing up as women though? why going for a cheap copy when the real deal exists?
>>109197812why not both?
>>109197815because one is inferior to the other, I'd rather get 2 bills of 10 dollars instead of one bill of 5 dollars and one bill of 10 dollars
>>109197826U UU U
watching porn addicted peoples (pap's) try to reason with each other is hilarious
where is kino?
>>109197855gotta wait for Krea 3 for that
>>109197852it's just the one guy learning for the first time that different people have different tastes and preferences
>>109197812anime website
>>109197852>>109197859
>>109197871incomprehensible
>>109197878>incomprehensibleobviously, your IQ is too low to understand
>>109197882of course anon, you're rightare you hungry? do you want your choccy milk now?
>>109197887>you're rightthanks
>>109197890any time sweetheart
>>109197871kek
>>109197871Everyone likes porn except online preachy zoomers, who happen to also like porn secretly.
>>109197871I don't get it
>>109197991this place is genuinely filled by retards, damn
>>109198000explain
>>109198003it was your parent's job to educate you proprely, not mine
>>109198010it takes a village
>>109198017never liked that quote anyway, I won't waste my efforts raising someone else's kid
>>109198026we used to live in a society
>>109198032we still live in a society George
>>10919804235 years ago
>>109198049yeah, even 35 years ago they used to say "we live in le society", nothing ever happens
>>109197929Fun fact: you can indulge in porn without having porn addiction
>>109198053George is clearly saying they are living in a society, 35 years ago
baker sama
>>109198058so you don't get that message either? do I really have to explain everything to you? :(
>>109198066>do I really have to explain everything to you?would it really be an explanation or would you just make things more confusing?
>>109198057Of course, since porn addiction is mostly bullshit and applied whenever something remotely sexy is shown anywhere.
>>109198072the real question would be, do you have an IQ high enough to understand the explaination or not?
>>109198078too high even
>>109198081doubt it, you couldn't even understand a simple meme
>porn addiction is mostly bullshitpap cope
>>109198084and you couldn't even explain a simple meme simplyFeynman has something to say about that
>>109198061Gone fishing
>>109198102never lower your standards to the lowest common denominator, midwits like you must be filtered out of the equation
>>109198116if it is mid it is not the lowest
>>109198121that's the problem though, even mids are retarded as fuck, the only solution to this is GATTACA
>>109195877Still asshurt?Sorry you're easy to point out, try not saying retarded shit that exposes you as a schizo
who cares if there's nothing better to do just jerk off.
^Fun fact - if you see a lust provoking image and your first instinct is to open it/interact with it - you do NOT in fact have free will.
fun fact - comfy is a cutie
>>109198152you don't have free will anyway
just ask the girl out. jeez.
fun fact: my penis is very average by most metrics
>>109198152>free willwe know it doesn't exist since the 17th century lol
>>109198152no it just means you wanna see it.
wtf is this thread
>shows a classic pinup>PORN ADDICT PORN ADDICT PORN ADDICTYep, zoom zoom detected.
>>109198203is there a reason why Zoom zooms are acting like 19th century old women prudes?
>basic 1girl gen doing standing doing absolutely nothing>WORKFLOW?? DUHH IM RETARDED WORKFLOW???
Not prudish actually.Theres a difference between indulging in your sexual desires and being controlled by the porn addict mind virus.Most of you are the latter.
>x>Y
>>109198203This a barracks, not a bordello.
>>109198203this porn addict is losing his mind bros
Happy Brithday, gringos.
>>109198210Yeah, pathologization of anything even remotely sexual, and basically being watched by their online group 24/7.
Krea2T-Enhancer still the best node for "un-censoring" Krea2? I find it doesn't really work well, the model still ignores nudity at times.
>>109198218>mind virusyou are the most brainwashed generation in the last 100 years anon
>>109198244microplastics.
>>109198190son
>>109198257she was born with 4 fingers btw
>>109198265
>hates gays because he thinks they're brainwashed>will instantly click open this image>probably save it toofunny how that works
>>109198292>he thinks they're brainwashedbut they are, do you really think 1/5 of the population are actually faggots or trannies?
porn addict just means having a functioning libido
>>109198313Cant actually reproduce though.
your parents were so porn addicted they had sex to make you
I wouldn't call diving into increasingly debased fetishes because overindulgence degraded your ability to be aroused by normal human intimacy a functioning libido. That's just chasing a fix.
Porn addiction is when you see a woman showing some cleavage and think that's hot.
^incorrect.
damn I really wanted to see that lust provoking image
>>109198322>Cant actually reproduceZoomer please, try to find a girlfriend before talking about reproduction kek
>>109198329>Porn addiction is when you see a womanmore like this to zoomers
what does a .png graph actually do for your life lil bro.
>>109198338>Zoomers are the generation with the biggest % of single people>>109198244>Zoomer are the generation with the biggest % of gaysdoes that mean that they're forcing themselves to fuck other dudes because they can't find a girlfriend? that's sad lol
this is what happens when there is a severe kino deficiency
>>109198355I watched ninja scroll and made me and my waifu as Jubei and Kagero its pretty kino - but after the thread maker put one of my images next to a foot with holes, I decided my images can only be posted sparingly.
>>109198351>Zoomers are the generation with the biggest % of single people>Zoomer are the generation with the biggest % of gays>Zoomer are the generation who loves to speak in ebonicsgay black dudes are in demand
>>109198360we need a kino revolution to overthrow the thread maker
>>109198292>porn addictiondo americans only know the word "porn"? what about the art of the nude? imagine masturbating in a museum dedicated to the nude...
>>109198381>imagine masturbating in a museum dedicated to the nudei do this
Moral of the story is. I masturbate every single night, but I am not porn addicted. Let this be a very important lesson to all of you.
>>109198292workflow pleasE?aNNON CAN YOU SHARE THE WORKFLOW????
>>109198381>what about the art of the nudeanon, there is no difference to them, you can show anything feminine and they would complain about porn addictionit's pavlovian
>>109198388Modern art is truly weird.
>>109198389impossible, porn addiction starts when you get hard, and a sign you don't have it is when you're always flaccid
is this a kiwi raid or what
i love ideogram
>>109198432
>>109198395https://civitai.red/images/134917831
>>109198443>https://civitai.red/images/134917831This content requires an accountSign in to keep exploring. It only takes a moment, and your account unlocks more of the site right away.uh. no.
Civitai staff don't work on Saturdays and Sundays.
>>109198443that tiny waist whale ass lora is pretty nice desu
>>109198292HOW DID U EVAN MAK DIS? IM SO RETARDED WORKFLOW WORKFLOW!!!
dead hobby
weird raid desu
>>109198697>>109198697
>>109197250I assume every cloud model does worse shit than that right from release. You can't prove they don't, so the assumption stands
desu
>>109198432why is that horse in a bikini?
